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Online OrangeAfroMan

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Florida's Downturn
« on: December 24, 2018, 01:13:25 AM »
On the Gator boards, there's been a frank discussion about why Florida hasn't mattered since Tebow left.  Meyer is to blame, Foley is to blame, facilities were to blame, etc etc....and the QB position was to blame.  So I thought I'd take a look back at QB recruits and see what's what, since Tebow left.
2010
3* Tyler Murphy
played a little, transferred to BC and started, UDFA
2011
5* Jeff Driskel
started about 20 games, got hurt, transferred to LA Tech, drafted in 6th round, NFL backup
4* Jacoby Brissett
played very little, transferred to NC State, started 2 successful years, drafted in 3rd round, NFL bakcup
2012
3* Skyler Mornhinweg
played a little, transferred to Columbia, stunk, no pro football
2013
3* Max Staver
never played, transferred to 3 places, ended up sucking at Maine, no pro football
2014
4* Will Grier
Started and played well for half a season, suspended for PEDs, transferred to WV, nearly a Heisman finalist
4* Treon Harris
Started off-and-on, scrambled around a lot, not much of a thrower...wound up transferring to Tenneseee State and moving to WR
2015
NO QB signed!
2016
4* Feleipe Franks
started the past 2 years, being a weakness last year and improved this year, under new coaching
3* Kyle Trask
didn't start for his HS team, hasn't been able to beat out Franks for playing time, got hurt this year
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Honestly, you can throw out the ineffectiveness...I challenge you to find any situation at any school in any time frame in which EVERY QB recruit a school signed for a five-year period (including 7 players, total) ALL transferred from that school.
It sounds made up...impossible...doesn't it?  




I think it's clear that with all the other things to warrant blame, this ludicrous fact that EVERY QB left Florida from 2010-2014 AND no QB was recruited in 2015.  It defies rational thought.


“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous."

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Re: Florida's Downturn
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2018, 01:15:58 AM »
Even Saban couldn't win if you told him all the QBs he signs in the next 5 years all had to transfer away, whether they were good, stunk, or didn't even play.  
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous."

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Re: Florida's Downturn
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2018, 01:47:41 PM »
Try having two 5* QB’s transfer within days of each other.  One of whom is the current Heisman winner and CFP looming, the other is a backup in the nfl. 

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Re: Florida's Downturn
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2018, 10:20:31 AM »
Even Saban couldn't win if you told him all the QBs he signs in the next 5 years all had to transfer away, whether they were good, stunk, or didn't even play.  
not that what you posted isn't bad, but hurts was supposed to be the first qb since mccarron (09 class) to finish at bama. and hurts is likely to be a grad transfer.
one small caveat to that though, blake sims never transfered, but he wasn't recruited to be a qb, he just ended up being one because we were lacking in qb dept at the time. ended up being pretty good one too. but he was recruited as a rb/wr/db and played/practiced there for 3 years before moving to qb as aj backup in 13 and starter in 14 (coker transferred in 14 but didn't win starter spot until 15)
bama qb's 2010-current
2010 - phillip simms (4* transferred out), blake sims (4* ath recruit, ended up qb)
2011 - philip ely (4* transferred), matt sandlin (0* no clue, but never played, had to have been a walk-on but was listed in 247 so i listed here)
2012 - alec morris (3* transfer)
2013 - cooper bateman (4* transfer), parker mcleod (3* transfer)
2014 - david cornwell (4* transfer)
2015 - blake barnett (5* transfer)
2016 - hurts (4* still on team, likely grad transfer)
2017 - tua (5* starter), mac jones (4* still on team, no rumors to transfer that i am aware)

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Re: Florida's Downturn
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2018, 11:24:30 AM »
LSU seems similar to me.

We all know that in CFB the QB spot if THE key to a decent season.  A completely loaded team otherwise can do well with a so-so QB who can play in the System, but that's rare.  Alabama is at a different level with Tua-v-Hurts.

I think Millen will correct this soon enough though.  He's got them to 9-3 already, which is better than so-so.  

I'm not sure how fast Tennessee can recover, but I suspect it will be much slower than for the Gators, IF they recover.

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Re: Florida's Downturn
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2019, 04:01:54 PM »
Florida beat the top 2 defenses in college football this year - Miss State and Michigan.  With how much shit gets piled onto Feliepe Franks, that's pretty impressive.  
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous."

 

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