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Topic: Should playoff teams be expanded?

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847badgerfan

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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #140 on: December 16, 2018, 05:39:53 PM »
CFB always moves at a snails pace. It took us 20 years just to get to this point, and half the people on this board still want to drag us back to the old poll n bowl system. It is what it is.
Count me in for dragging us back. Thanks.
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« Reply #141 on: December 16, 2018, 05:43:39 PM »
Worry not. I didn't exclude you from that half, chief.
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #142 on: December 16, 2018, 05:46:58 PM »
SEC commissioner will never be for expansion until an SEC misses the playoff. So, the SEC commissioner will never be for expansion. At least as long as ESecPN has the contract to broadcast, that is. I'm only partly tongue-in-cheek on this.

There will never be a playoff game in Chicago. It wouldn't be fair to make Nick's kids wear gloves.

To take your #2 a little further, it's not just the committee. It's the City, County and State in which the bowl is located too. There is money to be made there.
Th secret is, as soon as they go to eight, he'll be for eight. 

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« Reply #143 on: December 16, 2018, 05:52:56 PM »
The bowl locations aren't for the kids from the south, but for the butts in the seats.  Please stop pretending otherwise.
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« Reply #144 on: December 16, 2018, 05:58:03 PM »
This is true, but the more teams you allow into a playoff, the less deserving each additional team is.  Socially, as a culture, we should be inclusive.  But when determining a champion of a sport, we should be exclusive.  If you don't win the beauty contest, keep knocking at the door or kick it in and eventually make them see you by winning.  
Take UCF.  We have learned that a UCF team with 13 straight wins isn't allowed in.  We've learned a UCF team with 25 straight wins isn't allowed in.  But at some point (whether it's 38 or 50 or 100), they will be let in.  I guess it's not fair that a Notre Dame can get in after "only" 12 straight wins, but that's life.  If those UCF players could've gotten a scholarship from ND, they'd be playing for ND.  This is competition, dog-eat-dog, from recruiting to facilities to games on the field and to the rankings.  What should UCF do?  Keep winning.  Win until you get in.  
Why is 8 the right number?  Why not 16?  Why not 6?  It's so arbitrary.  It'd be random if cubed numbers didn't exist, which is hilarious, actually.  And if 8/130 teams (6%) is the right number, then why does every single other sport have way more than that in their playoffs (NFL 37.5%, NBA 53%, MLB 31%)???  If the best answer to that is "because it's more than 4", then that's embarrassing.  
To the first paragraph, that's fine. We want less competition, that's OK. We can just say it. The goal is making the season a pageant when number of losses rules the day, that's AOK. 
To the second. In the current system, USC will never get in. Could win 100 and it won't be let in because each batch of 12 will be found wanting. Maybe the stars align once, but for the most part, they'll be out. And whenever they lose, someone will be here to say, "If they'd only done it once more, maybe it coulda happened."
I dunno if eight is the right number, but it's the next one that allows for a clean bracket. I don't know if it's right or wrong. I know the current system is 3 percent, but that's really 6 percent since half of FBS isn't eligible. At the moment, there are five power conferences, often one G5 team that wins all its games and usually 1-2 teams where we ask the last week of the season about "They have two losses, but are they one of the BEST teams" because of that stupid wording. So at the moment, eight seems pretty clean. 

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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #145 on: December 16, 2018, 06:01:49 PM »
The bowl locations aren't for the kids from the south, but for the butts in the seats.  Please stop pretending otherwise.
Nobody is.  But then treat them accordingly

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« Reply #146 on: December 16, 2018, 06:07:09 PM »

To the second. In the current system, USC will never get in. Could win 100 and it won't be let in because each batch of 12 will be found wanting. Maybe the stars align once, but for the most part, they'll be out. 
This is absurd.  People would take into account their multiple seasons of being undefeated and let them in.  You're not being realistic here.
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« Reply #147 on: December 16, 2018, 07:02:09 PM »
Th secret is, as soon as they go to eight, he'll be for eight.
Perhaps, because then he will get 3/8 of the playoooof.  SEC SEC SEC, as an Arky or A&M or Old Mrs. fan might boast.
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« Reply #148 on: December 16, 2018, 07:07:43 PM »
Worry not. I didn't exclude you from that half, chief.
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« Reply #149 on: December 16, 2018, 07:15:48 PM »
Perhaps, because then he will get 3/8 of the playoooof.  SEC SEC SEC, as an Arky or A&M or Old Mrs. fan might boast.


It'll happen.  And people will bitch.  And if it expands to 16, the SEC will get 5 teams in.  And people will bitch.  
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #150 on: December 16, 2018, 07:36:11 PM »
Somebody out there somewhere will complain no matter what happens. No doubt about that. 
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #151 on: December 16, 2018, 07:40:15 PM »
It'll happen.  And people will bitch.  And if it expands to 16, the SEC will get 5 teams in.  And people will bitch.  
I just want an SEC team (a good one) to do a home/away with my school. I know. Too much to ask. 

Hell, I would bet a paycheck (it's a good one) that a good SEC team would turn down a 2 for 1 with my school.
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« Reply #152 on: December 16, 2018, 08:26:25 PM »
Not a lot of elite athletes coming out of Wisconsin....LSU came up there, didn't they?  
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« Reply #153 on: December 16, 2018, 08:53:11 PM »
Not a lot of elite athletes coming out of Wisconsin....LSU came up there, didn't they?  
LSU came up, yes, in Green Bay. Elite athletes? There's been a few. Some 4* ones this cycles and a couple of 5* for 2020.

LSU (and BAMA and USC and ND and UM and OSU and and and ) tried to steal the current in-state RB commit UW has.
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