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Topic: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)

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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #56 on: March 19, 2019, 03:48:41 PM »
Yes, but I was too young to remember it well.I'm in the upper left part of the photo, barely visible.  
I was there in another life
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #57 on: March 19, 2019, 03:56:05 PM »
I wonder if that is the most unbalanced "stat line" for a 25 point win in a long time in CFB.


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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #58 on: March 19, 2019, 04:57:34 PM »
IT'S BASEBALL SEASON WHAT THE HELL

Jim Maloney on September 25, 1964 pitched a 1-hit shutout against the Mets, striking out 8.    In his next start, September 29, he pitched 11 innings of 3-hit shutout baseball, striking out 13, but did not get a win as the Reds lost, 1-0 in 16 innings.   Maloney had several starts in his career in which he carried a no-hitter into extra innings, but this was not one of those games; in this game he gave up two singles in the third and a leadoff single in the 7th, but no runs, no other hits and thirteen Ks.   That was his last start of 1964, but in his first start of 1965 he pitched another 1-hit shutout, striking out 8.

        Sudden Sam McDowell in 1966 pitched consecutive 1-hitters against the Kansas City A’s and the White Sox (April 25 and May 1), then pitched 12 innings in his next start, giving up one run but getting no decision.   He struck out 28 batters in the three games (8-10-10).
                Gaylord Perry pitched a 3-hit shutout against the Dodgers, August 28, 1967, striking out 9.    In his next start, September 1, he pitched 16 shutout innings against the Reds, striking out 12, but left with the game tied 0-0.   The Giants eventually won the contest, 1-0 in 21 innings.    Taking his next turn on schedule on September 6, Perry pitched another 3-hit shutout against the Angels.    He followed that up, incidentally, with another 3-hitter, but the Game Score for that one is only 85, and then he pitched 4 more outstanding games to finish the season.    In September of 1967 Perry pitched 69 innings with an ERA of 0.78.   The heavy workload took its toll on his arm, however, and he was only able to pitch 291 innings in 1968 (with a 2.44 ERA), and he had to retire just 16 years later.  
These two got traded for each other,I know in '72 or '73 he had 29 complete games
Teddy Higuera pitched a 10-inning, 3-hit shutout of the Cleveland Indians (August 26, 1987), followed that up with a 1-hit shutout of the Royals (September 1) and a 2-hit shutout of the Twins (September 6).   He struck out 26 batters in the three games (10-9-7).    Higuera was the only pitcher in 1987 to pitch two in a row, and he pitched three in a row. 

1968 revisited
Not only was music the best it has ever been in and around that year, so was the pitching.
The mound was shaved from 15 to 10 inches after a 1968 season in which 335 shutouts were thrown, the All-Star Game was 1-0, and Gibson (13 shutouts, 28 complete games), Luis Tiant (1.60 ERA), Sam McDowell (1.81 ERA) and Denny McLain (31 wins) had huge seasons.
San Francisco's Gaylord Perry and St. Louis' Ray Washburn no-hit each other's teams on back-to-back nights.
Through the years, Perry’s denials became a familiar and humorous part of the show. During a playoff game in 1971, a television reporter briefly sat down with the Perry family during a game Gaylord was pitching. After a few polite questions, Allison, Perry’s five-year-old daughter was asked, "Does your daddy throw a grease ball?" Not missing a beat, she responded, "It’s a hard slider."
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #59 on: March 19, 2019, 09:59:51 PM »
Here's a football oddity for y'all.

2008 UCLA @ Arizona St when the Sun Devils beat the Bruins by 25 (34-9)

Now these were both mediocre teams, neither went to a bowl this season but damn was this specific game quite unique.

Now while the UCLA offense didn't exactly tear it up (306 total yards) the ASU offense played like hot ass gaining only 122 total yards for the game. UCLA yards per carry wasn't great at 2.5 but ASU only managed 0.9 YPC. UCLA completed twice as many passes as ASU with a 9% higher comp % and 1 more yard per pass.

So how did ASU win by 25 points? If you haven't clicked the link already you probably already are guessing turnovers and/or special teams and while that's not wrong, it's still quite rare what ASU accomplished to beat UCLA by such a solid margin.

While the UCLA offense only managed 9 points off 3 FGs, that still outscored what the ASU offense did (6 points off 2 FGs). The ASU defense forced 4 Bruin turnovers and scored on every single one of them. That's absurd. Especially seeing that ASU's defense outgained their offense off these 4 turnovers.

UCLA QB sacked, fumbled, and defense scoops it up and takes it 17 yards for a score.
UCLA throws a 38 yard pick six
UCLA throws a 100 yard pick six
UCLA throws a 45 yard pick six

That's exactly 200 yards in 4 plays, 78 more yards then the entire offense managed in 50 plays.
Holy hell!
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #60 on: March 19, 2019, 10:08:50 PM »
Reminds me of Florida's 2012 win over South Carolina, 44-11.  Check this out:
44-11 final score.
Neither team had 200 total yards.
Neither team had a 100-yard passer.
Neither team had a 40-yard rusher.
Neither team had a 40-yard receiver.
There were no defensive, kick return, or punt return TDs.
The only defensive score was a blocked PAT runback for 2 points.

How did Florida manage 44 points?!?
South Carolina had 4 turnovers to Florida's 0.
Florida had 6 TD scoring drives.  They covered:  
2 yards,
29 yards,
1 yard,
59 yards,
44 yards,
11 yards.
South Carolina had more total yards, but did not score a TD (3 FGs, 1 blocked XP return).

It was weird.
After Florida's first five possessions, the Gators had -16 total yards and led 7-3.  From that point, the next 2 times a South Carolina player touched the ball was a fumbled punt return and a fumbled kickoff return.
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #61 on: March 20, 2019, 11:57:34 AM »
Not especially remarkable, but my trip to the Shoe in 2009 had a similar stat line:
Total Yards:
Wisconsin: 368
OSU: 184

First Downs:
Wisconsin: 22
OSU: 8

Time of Possession:
Wisconsin: 25:31
OSU: 10:24

But, turnovers:
Wisconsin: 2
OSU: 1

Both of Wisconsin's two were pick-sixes: one for 32-yards, one for 89-yards. And a kickoff return for a touchdown. 21 points without OSU's offense on the field. Brutal.

Wisconsin scored a touchdown on a fake field goal. And got whupped: 31-13.

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« Reply #62 on: March 20, 2019, 01:14:30 PM »
One of the weirdest and wildest games I can ever remember is the 1994 Backyard Brawl between WVU and Pitt that the Mountaineers won 47-41. Some of anomalies in that game:

-Both teams returned a blocked FG for a TD in the game.

-WVU had a 100 yard INT return for 2 points on a Pitt conversion attempt.

-Big plays galore.  There were 9 Touchdowns scored in that game that covered 40 yards or more.

-Somehow, despite both teams scoring over 40 points and combining for 983 yards of offense (Pitt- 532 WVU- 451) they also combined for 17 punts (WVU- 11. Pitt- 6).

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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #63 on: March 20, 2019, 02:51:35 PM »
Yes, but I was too young to remember it well.



I'm in the upper left part of the photo, barely visible.  

As Georgia Tech did not yet have its own team, the Athens Weekly Banner reported that "the Technological school was out in force wearing the colors of the University and aiding the lung gang by vigorous use of cow bells." The score was tied 0-0 at the half, and the second half, marked by heavy rain, produced a final score of Auburn 10, Georgia 0.

Between 2,000 - 3,000 people attended the game at Piedmont Park, with tickets 50 cents for adults and 25 cents for children. It was Atlanta's first experience with college football, and in the weeks leading up to the meeting, the city's papers explained the new sport to their readers as well as hyping the game by noting that "Atlanta is wild over the matter."

So now we know the origin of the cow bell thing. Blame it on Tech.  The train track is not where the East Beltline trail runs, though that portion is not yet improved, it's gravel and mud.  
Not GT, but this tech. Alabama Polytechnic Institute.

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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #64 on: March 20, 2019, 03:03:42 PM »
The infamous awarding of his 1941 NC by Deke Houlgate to Alabama was based almost entirely on Bama's 1942 Cotton Bowl win over an aTm team that had lost but two games in three years. He apparently didn't see the game.

Game summary[edit]
In a game statistically tilted toward the Aggies, Alabama won 29–21, after racing to a 29-7 lead. Alabama then inserted its third-string, allowing for Texas A&M's late scoring.[5][6][7] Alabama had only one first down to A&M's 13; however, under the Southwest Conference rules in 1942, touchdown runs and pass plays were not counted as first downs; Alabama also had 59 rushing yards to A&M's 115; and 16 yards receiving to 194.[5] The Crimson Tide prevailed through special teams play and intercepting seven Aggie passes in their victory.[5][7]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1942_Cotton_Bowl_Classic

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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #65 on: March 27, 2019, 08:18:27 PM »
In the final poll of 2000, none of the top 4 teams had finished in the top 10 of the previous year's final poll.  That's got to be rare, I'll look it up later to see.  
FYI:  1-OU, 2-Miami, 3-Washington, 4-Oregon St
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« Reply #66 on: March 27, 2019, 09:47:12 PM »
In the final poll of 2000, none of the top 4 teams had finished in the top 10 of the previous year's final poll.  That's got to be rare, I'll look it up later to see.  
FYI:  1-OU, 2-Miami, 3-Washington, 4-Oregon St
Doesn’t quite meet your criteria but the final AP Poll of 1985 was
1. Oklahoma
2. Michigan
3. Penn St
4. Tennessee
Oklahoma finished #6 in 1984 but the other 3 finished unranked.  When I read your post ‘85 jumped out at me as a season to look at because the ‘84 season was so wonky with BYU finishing #1.

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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #67 on: March 27, 2019, 11:03:17 PM »
I always found this game to be odd. 9/7/96, Michigan St at Nebraska
Total Yards
MSU 246
N 298

N 184 yards rushing on 46 carries, 4 fumbles, 2 lost.  Frost 10-58 leading rusher.
N 255 return yards
MSU 83 yards rushing, one fumble lost, 3 INTs on 14-27 passing.  Sack yards hurt MSU, as they had two guys rush for over 50 yards.
So many short fields for Nebraska, plus 2 pick sixes and a punt return TD.

Final score: N 55 MSU 14

another odd ball, same year,  N at OU.
The game was scoreless after 1, and only 10-0 in the closing minute of the half before Ahman Green scored before the gun.
Final score: N 73 OU 21.
Total Yards: N 387 OU 275.
still 16 total punts 6 and 10.
Demond Parker went wild for OU in the 4th qtr, rushing for 151 yards and 3 TDs.   Meanwhile Jay Sims (4th string I-back) managed 7-98, all in the 4th quarter to lead on the ground for Nebraska.  The next best rusher was D'angelo Evans who had 13-36, and then a bunch of guys with 20 or fewer yards.

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« Reply #68 on: May 04, 2019, 08:18:57 PM »
I was cutting cards for my game, and noticed Charley Pell had a great year as Clemson HC in 1978.  But then he left to coach at Florida.
Was that surprising at the time?  Was Florida's program more highly thought-of than Clemson's in the late 70s?  

Pell sort of did the same thing at both stops:  won and cheated.  He took Clemson to its best final ranking ever, but got them put on probation.  However, the 1981 National Championship probably doesn't happen without Pell's foundation.  At Florida, after an 0-10-1 start, he gets the Gators to their best-ever final ranking before being fired.  Gators put on probation and their '84 SEC Championship revoked.  But he helped the infrastructure of the program a lot and Florida went on to be big winners after the sanctions effects expired.  

Florida hadn't won any SEC championships in its history by the late 70s....do any of you remember the attitude of his leaving Clemson to go to Gainesville?
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Re: Random Revelations (college football stats & stuff)
« Reply #69 on: May 05, 2019, 08:37:06 AM »
I was 16 in 78, so don't remember much about the politics of college football at the time.

The thing I remember about those Clemson teams was the great defense

I assume Charlie left to go to Florida because he had been caught cheating and was pushed out, but that is just my assumption
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