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CousinFreddie

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OU at WVU
« on: November 20, 2018, 01:19:28 PM »
From what I can gather here most of the Horn fans on this board have already decided that the game has been played, the Sooners have lost, and it will be Texas-WVU in the CCG.  It's not an unreasonable prognostication, no doubt.  That assumes they beat Kansas, but how can they lose to Kansas, I mean seriously that would be a set back of enormous proportions, and regardless of Pooka etc, I just don't think that's gonna happen.

Oh well.  Meanwhile until the game is played we still have a chance. 

Hmm, though, this game and the overall way OU has played regardless of the 1-loss record is sure something to give all Sooner faithful pause ...

The only thing I'm more worried about than the Sooners defense against the run is the Sooners defense against the pass.  And, West Va is the #5 passing offense in the country.  Gulp.  I figure it will be a long day Saturday suffering through the slings and arrows of the Eers aerial assault, kind of like cheering for Thor as faces the Ice Queen in Ragnarok. 

But on the upside, we've been there before, in the same type of game this one figures to be, and have managed to come out with wins like OU 50 WVU 49 in 2012, and then in 2016 when we were both ranked in the top 10, Oklahoma coasted to a win in Mtown.

There won't be any coasting on Saturday, and I figure if we're lucky it will be another nail biter like the Bedlam game or the TT game or well, so many this year really.  Just got to stay ahead, somehow, some way.



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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2018, 01:29:21 PM »
It's a Friday game, no?  
The most exciting game of the weekend for the B12 for sure.    I haven't decided on any outcomes, but I haven't really made too may predictions this year and have enjoyed the ride without expectations.   I'm sad it's the last weekend of the regular season, it feels like it went by a bit too fast like usual. 


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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2018, 01:33:27 PM »
It's a Friday game, no? 
Ugh, Erin, I hadn't realized that - the impending trauma is even closer than I thought!

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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2018, 01:36:16 PM »
I would love nothing more than to see Texas beat OU twice in the same season.  That would be rivalry scoreboard X2.

But honestly I just see the wvu defense making more stops than the OU defense.

OU ain't got no defense.  Besides, it's 12:34 and OU still sucks.

And as far as Horns Up, Horns Down, candid remarks, etc... everybody should just lighten up.  If you don't want to get taunted, be so perfect you're above reproach.  If you can't, get a sense of humor.

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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2018, 01:38:02 PM »
Well better to know now rather than find out at 11 am on Saturday!  
I've been doing my best not to schedule anything to do on Friday so that I can watch all the games.  Great football is much better than black friday shopping anyway. 

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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2018, 01:41:05 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2018, 01:41:26 PM »
Well better to know now rather than find out at 11 am on Saturday!  
True ... well, maybe!

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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2018, 01:47:10 PM »
From what I can gather here most of the Horn fans on this board have already decided that the game has been played, the Sooners have lost, and it will be Texas-WVU in the CCG.

We should add this as a half-assed bonus: name the 2 teams that will meet in B12 title.

Up to Hooky.

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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2018, 01:49:28 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2018, 07:31:34 PM »
We should add this as a half-assed bonus: name the 2 teams that will meet in B12 title.

Up to Hooky.
Nice idea, but I’ve already tempted the ecfg’s enough as it is ...

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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2018, 08:35:45 PM »
I think it's going to be a super-close game, lots of offense, high-scoring, and either team could win.

Overall I do agree with Slick that I think the WVU defense will get just one or two more stops, and that will decide the game, but it's not like I'd be surprised with a Sooner victory.  


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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2018, 10:12:00 PM »
Toss up.  I think one game comparison scores against common opponents can be fool’s gold but if you get enough of them I think they can tell a story.  In eight conference games OU has a scoring margin of +123 and WVU’s is +115.  So Oklahoma has been one point better per game than WVU in the Big 12.

Can WVU make up one point at home?  I think they can.  Will they?  Can’t wait to find out.  I’ll be a homer and say they do.  45-44 Mountaineers.

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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2018, 10:23:21 PM »
Toss up.  I think one game comparison scores against common opponents can be fool’s gold but if you get enough of them I think they can tell a story.  In eight conference games OU has a scoring margin of +123 and WVU’s is +115.  So Oklahoma has been one point better per game than WVU in the Big 12.

Can WVU make up one point at home?  I think they can.  Will they?  Can’t wait to find out.  I’ll be a homer and say they do.  45-44 Mountaineers.
I think you're right Kris.  We've had too much luck in the OU-WVU series so far.  Eventually it's going to go the other way, and this year seems like a good chance for it since the Sooner defense is the worst I think I've ever seen, at least in the Stoops-Riley era, and possibly going back way before that ...

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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2018, 09:26:53 AM »
I think OU scores at least 42 points

question is will WVU score more
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« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2018, 10:39:01 AM »
OU's defense is not a factor. However, they're offense is so good that WVU's defense may not matter, either. I want to think that Texas' defense demonstrated how to stonewall OU's offense - provided you have sufficient athletes, but Texas had OU's TE/FB guy Constanza or Kamoze or whatever his name is out of the game.

Realistically, this is a pick 'em. History says that an random helmet on ball fumble or tipped pass will upset the house of cards one way or the other.

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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2018, 02:10:15 PM »
BTW, you were right, doppel.  WVU @ oSu was much more significant than I gave it credit for being.

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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2018, 03:25:40 PM »
BTW, you were right, doppel.  WVU @ oSu was much more significant than I gave it credit for being.
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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2018, 09:47:09 PM »
I think you're right Kris.  We've had too much luck in the OU-WVU series so far.  Eventually it's going to go the other way, and this year seems like a good chance for it since the Sooner defense is the worst I think I've ever seen, at least in the Stoops-Riley era, and possibly going back way before that ...
I don’t really think OU has been lucky.  They’ve just been better.  They may very well be better this year, too.  I do think WVU has more of a shot this year than the last 2 or 3 though.

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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2018, 10:17:15 AM »
Will Grier was as good as advertised. Hard fought game. One of those too bad one team had to lose kind of deals.  Good luck in your bowl game Kris.  I hope WVU gets a good one and wins it big.

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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2018, 10:23:59 AM »
Defense set-aside, the game was as exciting as they get.    Beat OU !

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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2018, 10:45:45 AM »
Do you guys like Big XII style football?  Why is it like this?  How can it go back to being actual football, with defense?  I'm 100% not trying to troll or flame or whatever, I'm earnestly asking if you guys like it.  


I think back to the OU defenses of the mid-80s and the Texas defenses of the early 80s and while I'm not dying to watch a 9-7 game, this both-teams-have-50-by-halftime crap isn't a sport I recognize.  


Is Texas Tech to blame?  Leach?  How did it get to this point?
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« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2018, 11:04:37 AM »
I blame DeLo$$ and the Longhorn Network

or the puppy kicker
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« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2018, 11:13:24 AM »
Very disappointed.  I thought WVU had as good a chance to win the league this year as they have ever had and may get again in a while.

OU’s offense is obviously incredible but the defensive effort was embarrassing last night.  It was last week against Ok St too.  They didn’t even put up a fight.

The two calls that negated a WVU TD in the 2nd quarter and a 70 yard run were massive.  I thought Holgorsen’s decision to go for it on 4th and 6 instead of kick a chip shot FG was a mistake.  There’s a fine line between aggressive and dumb.  Would have liked to have seen him take the points there.  Oh well.

OU-Texas in the CCG.  The Big 12’s dream comes true.

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« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2018, 11:38:50 AM »
Is Texas Tech to blame?  Leach?  How did it get to this point?
check you NCAA passing stats for the decade of the 2000's or 2010's vs the 70's or 80's
as we've discussed, the NCAA's thirst to draw non-fans eyeballs to the TV for ratings and $$$ have caused this
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« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2018, 11:49:24 AM »
The lack of defense hurts the Big 12 conference as a whole.  And is why the Big 12 will play second fiddle to the Big 10 and SEC when looking at one loss teams for the playoff.   

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« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2018, 12:10:37 PM »
same as has been happening to the PAC for decades
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« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2018, 12:24:04 PM »
Why haven't the SEC, ACC, or B10 fell prey to this type of football?  (yet?)
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« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2018, 12:43:52 PM »
they have, just not to this extent
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« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2018, 01:58:04 PM »
Part of it is also a result of the way the refs call the game.  They rarely call offensive holding on passing plays, even when defenders are being tackled to the ground by o-linemen.  This obviously results in more offensive yards and more scoring.  I guess the league likes it that way, because they continue to overlook it.  

 

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