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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2018, 09:27:42 AM »
Everything is difficult at Rutgers.  The wheels really came off for them this year.  Going forward, they really need stability on in the offensive coaching staff.  I think he's had three different offensive coordinators in his three years.  

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« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2018, 09:59:55 AM »
Someone needs to look at Lance Leipold in this version of the carnage. Look at what he's done at Buffalo, and before that at UW-Whitewater. The man can coach football.
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« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2018, 01:15:12 PM »
Fedora whacked at UNC. Kingsbury buried at Texas Tech.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2018, 05:04:16 PM »
Lovie gets an extension to coach at Illinois through 2023. WTF?
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« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2018, 05:33:59 PM »
UNC just resigned Fedora recently so they will be paying him for a few years to come.  They may not have money to pay a medium level coach.

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« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2018, 06:09:58 PM »
Basketball can fund football at that place.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #36 on: November 25, 2018, 06:21:18 PM »
Some chatter about Mack Brown to UNC? He might come cheap. It's not like he's in need of a big payday. He's also a class act and a pretty good CEO with the right help.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #37 on: November 25, 2018, 08:35:12 PM »

4) Kansas and oSu, as programs, weren't very different from each other 15 years ago, but they have since veered off in opposite directions.  The Cowboys are perennial B12 contenders, and KU is lucky to win more than one conference game a year.  I don't think Kansas has a sugar-daddy like Pickens, but maybe some of their boosters would be more inclined to invest in the football program if Miles gave them something worth investing in.  He has won a national championship and coached in another, so maybe they're serious about making KU football respectable.
Damn how can you all forget that Mangino took KU to a BCS bowl and beat Va Tech?  Sure, it was 10+ years ago but it did happen and Mangino had a very decent program there.  

KU made a terrible mistake when they hired ? Turner Gill followed by Charlie Weis.  Those two guys sunk the program.  At least I think it was Turner Gill that followed Mangino.  
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« Reply #38 on: November 25, 2018, 08:40:50 PM »
Damn how can you all forget that Mangino took KU to a BCS bowl and beat Va Tech?  Sure, it was 10+ years ago but it did happen and Mangino had a very decent program there.  

KU made a terrible mistake when they hired ? Turner Gill followed by Charlie Weis.  Those two guys sunk the program.  At least I think it was Turner Gill that followed Mangino.  

"weren't very different from each other 15 years ago, but they have since veered off in opposite directions"



I think that's kinda what he was getting at. Mangino did wonders and it will take wonders to accomplish same - especially now that OU and Texas appear to be up at the same time. Miles will have to climb over a bunch of teams in his way - starting with the one up the road.
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« Reply #39 on: November 25, 2018, 08:42:51 PM »
Lovie gets an extension to coach at Illinois through 2023. WTF?
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« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2018, 09:41:00 AM »
According to Dan Patrick - Mack Brown took the Head Coaching job @ N.Carolina
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« Reply #41 on: November 26, 2018, 09:48:51 AM »
According to Dan Patrick - Mack Brown took the Head Coaching job @ N.Carolina
I mean, ok.  

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« Reply #42 on: November 26, 2018, 09:59:00 AM »
According to Dan Patrick - Mack Brown took the Head Coaching job @ N.Carolina
Set up to take back over at Texas in 2023.

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« Reply #43 on: November 26, 2018, 10:59:40 AM »
It's been decades of course, but I clearly recall walking into "work" on Saturdays and hearing applause at Kenan Stadium along the lines of a tennis match.

It was very polite applause.

It was different.

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« Reply #44 on: November 26, 2018, 11:12:01 AM »
I think he'll get some "3 star" type players who might have not considered KU.  He might snag a QB diamond in the rough and have a pretty good year sometime.  Some Texas HS players who think they will ride the pine elsewhere might give him a shot.
and all that would be an improvement over what they have..  Success at KU is establish 6 wins and bowl games as a norm and build from there.   Maybe in 5 years you land the 4 star DE from the KC metro area and the 5 star RB from Wichita... but not on day one.   KSU is heading back to historic KSU levels.   Also...The Juco league in Kansas is wide open, unlike the 90's when KSU owned it.   The timing benefits Les...
I'd also say being different in the BIG12 isn't all bad.   He could end up being that tough game to prepare for since his offense is so different.  
The key, imo, is in the expectations.  If the fans and administration believes in 4 years they're playing with OU, he will be a fail.  If they believe they can win 6 games a season in 4 years, he'll be a success.   Mangino had time to build things..  I still believe it can be done again.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #45 on: November 26, 2018, 11:21:44 AM »
If Kansas fans think they will be competing with OU in four years ....

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« Reply #46 on: November 26, 2018, 12:01:59 PM »
 If they believe they can win 6 games a season in 4 years, he'll be a success.   Mangino had time to build things..  I still believe it can be done again.
Mangino & Mason both had 2 real good years there but it's just a tough gig.Even to get perennial 6 win squads
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #47 on: November 26, 2018, 01:07:58 PM »
We've seen teams from Stanford, NW, Duke, etc. be pretty good teams in recent years.

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« Reply #48 on: November 26, 2018, 01:23:52 PM »
the right staff for the institution can do wonders for winning games....

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« Reply #49 on: November 26, 2018, 01:28:59 PM »
I think we can agree that 2-3-4 programs currently in the dumpster are going to be credible teams in 5-7 years, probably not playoff level teams, but maybe one will (Washington did it).

If Kansas managed that, we'd be suitably impressed with Les obv.  TCU and Baylor were once considered awful, but they had solid years, some great years, before ebbing.

The right coach, and staff, indeed can make a difference at the most unlikely program, but they may not stay.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #50 on: November 27, 2018, 05:47:43 PM »
Jeff Brohm met with Louisville AD today.

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« Reply #51 on: November 27, 2018, 06:46:14 PM »
Mangino must be one of the best coaches in the bizz to have Kansas humming the way he did. I can't believe that no one has ever taken a flier on him. 

It's not like Kansas faded away after he left, they were immediately putrid. He really got a lot out of a thin roster. 
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« Reply #52 on: November 27, 2018, 06:46:59 PM »
Jeff Brohm met with Louisville AD today.
Hate to hear that.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #53 on: November 27, 2018, 07:35:42 PM »
Dakich is calling the Louisville/MSU game tonight.

What's the over/under on how many times he brings up the Brohm to Louisville rumors? 

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« Reply #54 on: November 27, 2018, 08:09:30 PM »
Okay. 

Locks is supposed to meet after the Bama CCG, at Maryland. 

If offered, he'll accept. 

Canada will likely get an interview, just cause, and UGA's DC as well.

I hope it's Locks, but if I know Maryland, they'll screw this up by getting Mel Tucker

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« Reply #55 on: November 27, 2018, 08:18:55 PM »
Okay.

Locks is supposed to meet after the Bama CCG, at Maryland.

If offered, he'll accept.

Canada will likely get an interview, just cause, and UGA's DC as well.

I hope it's Locks, but if I know Maryland, they'll screw this up by getting Mel Tucker
Locksley can recruit. That’s it. Why would Maryland fans even want him?

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« Reply #56 on: November 27, 2018, 08:42:09 PM »
surprisingly looks like Clay Helton is going to keep his job at USC. He fired the entire staff but kept Michigan cast off Tim Drevno. Makes sense. Not. Lol.

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« Reply #57 on: November 27, 2018, 11:15:29 PM »
Locksley can recruit. That’s it. Why would Maryland fans even want him?
We have no idea what he can do. 
Being a HC at New Mexico is no gauge of what he can do.
He's had time with a few of the best in the business, so maybe he's learned a thing or 2 since.
I didn't like his offense, but it's working in Bama. If he can lock down the DMV, which many current and former players feels like he can do, he's perfect for keeping this team together, as we'd likely be seeing a movement out of the program, destroying whatever DJ accomplished. 
We need stability right now, and he can bring it. 

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« Reply #58 on: November 28, 2018, 08:18:35 AM »
surprisingly looks like Clay Helton is going to keep his job at USC. He fired the entire staff but kept Michigan cast off Tim Drevno. Makes sense. Not. Lol.
Well maybe Canada will be the OC for the Trojans,be tempting if Maryland doesn't retain him.Be tough on the family moving again however.Was Drevno that bad?He was an o-line coach for a long time,he coached rb's in AA correct?
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« Reply #59 on: November 28, 2018, 08:39:50 AM »
Jeff Brohm met with Louisville AD today.
Isn't L'ville hemorrhaging cash?
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