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FearlessF

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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #266 on: December 10, 2018, 11:16:12 PM »
or judging them on how they do in the little apple

but, that's what we have to go with
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #267 on: December 11, 2018, 03:53:10 AM »
So Butch is named associate HC and TE's coach.

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« Reply #268 on: December 11, 2018, 06:17:19 AM »
or judging them on how they do in the little apple

but, that's what we have to go with
I wasn't.  I was comparing what each did at NDSU

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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #269 on: December 12, 2018, 01:02:58 PM »
Don Brown interviewing for the Temple job.  Didn't he leave UMass to go be DC at Maryland because he thought being a DC at a P5 school was a better path to a big time coaching job than being a head coach at a dead end school?  Like Dane Fife leaving his head coaching job at IPFW to go be an assistant under Izzo?  Why would he then basically just go back to another blah job?  Does Temple even pay its head coach more than UM pays him?

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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #270 on: December 12, 2018, 01:38:18 PM »
Don Brown interviewing for the Temple job.  Didn't he leave UMass to go be DC at Maryland because he thought being a DC at a P5 school was a better path to a big time coaching job than being a head coach at a dead end school?  Like Dane Fife leaving his head coaching job at IPFW to go be an assistant under Izzo?  Why would he then basically just go back to another blah job?  Does Temple even pay its head coach more than UM pays him?
Temples’ last four coaches landed at Miami, BC, Baylor, GT. 
They don’t publicize Pennsylvania salaries for some reason, but Collins left a million on the table to take the job a few years back. 

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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #271 on: December 12, 2018, 01:45:32 PM »
Temples’ last four coaches landed at Miami, BC, Baylor, GT.
They don’t publicize Pennsylvania salaries for some reason, but Collins left a million on the table to take the job a few years back.
Temple's last four coaches were also 37, 52, 38, 46 when they coached their first game.  Don Brown will be 64 next year.  Even if he's only there two years, he'd be 66.  I can't imagine a 64 year old using that as a stepping stone job like a 37 year old could.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #272 on: December 12, 2018, 01:57:33 PM »
OTOH if he wants to be a head coach he cant sit around and wait much longer

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« Reply #273 on: December 12, 2018, 02:06:55 PM »
OTOH if he wants to be a head coach he cant sit around and wait much longer
Yeah, it really only makes sense if he thought he could get a better HC job, didn't, and wants to do it one more time before he retires.  I don't see any way it's a stepping stone job.  But if his goal remains HC, you wonder if you could get him in a moment of total honesty, he regrets leaving UMass, considering his plan to get there didn't pan out.  That said, he got Maryland to an FCS title game, but that program was destined to fail jumping to FBS in the MAC, so I don't think sticking around would have got him there either.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #274 on: December 12, 2018, 03:18:37 PM »
Yeah, it really only makes sense if he thought he could get a better HC job, didn't, and wants to do it one more time before he retires.  I don't see any way it's a stepping stone job.  But if his goal remains HC, you wonder if you could get him in a moment of total honesty, he regrets leaving UMass, considering his plan to get there didn't pan out.  That said, he got Maryland to an FCS title game, but that program was destined to fail jumping to FBS in the MAC, so I don't think sticking around would have got him there either.
Temple is a pretty good clip above UMass. In prestige. They sorta yo-yo back and forth between P5 and G5, while UMass is a fresh FCS move up that none of the G5 conferences have shown much interest in. 
Then there is recruiting. PA vs New England.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #275 on: December 12, 2018, 04:08:02 PM »
Sounds like it's Manny Diaz to Temple

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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #276 on: December 12, 2018, 06:11:56 PM »
Temple's last four coaches were also 37, 52, 38, 46 when they coached their first game.  Don Brown will be 64 next year.  Even if he's only there two years, he'd be 66.  I can't imagine a 64 year old using that as a stepping stone job like a 37 year old could.
 True, but if multiple years of building one of the best defenses in the country doesn’t get you a look that’s better than this, you might just have to take what he can assuming he wants to be a head coach again. 

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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #277 on: December 12, 2018, 06:12:40 PM »
Sounds like it's Manny Diaz to Temple
Welp, settles that 

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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #278 on: December 12, 2018, 07:26:27 PM »
Manny Diaz is the better choice. DB is like 100 years old. 

I doubt he was a serious candidate there. I think all the interview did was ensure that Harbaugh tells his AD to give DB an extension and a fat raise. Wouldn’t surprise me at all to see Michigan announce a multi-year extension and make DB one of the highest paid co-ordinators in the college game and offer him something like $2 million a year.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #279 on: December 30, 2018, 11:13:41 AM »
Apparently the Packers are interested in Fitzgerald

 

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