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CharleyHorse46

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Re: Ohio State and Tom Herman
« Reply #60 on: November 19, 2018, 05:08:18 PM »
If Tom wins a Big 12 championship this year (something Mack only did twice in 13 years), I wouldn't mind if Ms. Michelle mudwrestles with as many pigs as she wants to mudwrestle with.

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« Reply #61 on: November 19, 2018, 10:21:31 PM »
that would be my attitude
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

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« Reply #62 on: November 20, 2018, 11:28:47 AM »
I wouldn't mind wrestling in the mud with Ms. Michelle.

Remember the movie "Stripes"?

The mud wrestling scene was my favorite part of that movie.
Fair? Who said anything about fair? The world isn't fair! Truth isn't fair! Is it fair that you were born that way? No!
They're not expecting anything like you, Ox! They're expecting one of these other lunks, but you're different! You're weird! You're a mutant! A killer! You're LEAN, MEAN, FIGHTIN' MACHINE!
I wouldn't normally recommend it, but she knows her craft. She's just chippy enough to let the subject know he's been engaged without devolving into petty name calling and mud slinging. It requires a precise blend of catty, snark, and restraint. She's a master, and I salute her for it.

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« Reply #63 on: November 21, 2018, 11:01:10 PM »
If Tom wins a Big 12 championship this year (something Mack only did twice in 13 years), I wouldn't mind if Ms. Michelle mudwrestles with as many pigs as she wants to mudwrestle with.
It’s crazy to think about all the great Texas teams from the early to late 2000s and that they only won 2 conference championships. And then even when Texas managed to sneak by OU somebody like A&M or KSU was there to trip them up. 

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Re: Ohio State and Tom Herman
« Reply #64 on: November 24, 2018, 12:50:29 AM »
Yeah we call that cockroaching.  A&M and Kansas State did quite well playing their role of cockroaches.  But the worst cockroaching was definitely Tech in 2008.

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« Reply #65 on: November 25, 2018, 10:25:45 AM »
“Cockroaching” is just Texas fan spin.  The reality is they can’t take it when they get out-played and out-coached by “lesser” programs.  It’s just Texas euphemism for “we suck”

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« Reply #66 on: November 25, 2018, 10:45:59 AM »
in the minds of Horn fans, every loss is a cockroaching
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« Reply #67 on: November 25, 2018, 11:09:43 AM »
Nah, no cockroach losses this past season.

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« Reply #68 on: November 25, 2018, 01:32:09 PM »
Do I have to remind everyone of the origin of the term?

In 1961 Texas was 8-0 and ranked #1 in mid to late November when the 2-4-1 TCU Horned Frogs came to Austin and upended the Horns 6-0.  After the game, DKR said, “They’re like a bunch of cockroaches.  It’s not what they eat and tote off, it’s what they fall into and mess up that hurts.”

Hence a cockroach is a team with no aspirations that upsets a team with national championship aspirations.

I wouldn’t say that Texas Tech cockroached Texas in 2008 anymore than I would say that Texas cockroached Nebraska in 1999 because the upsetters were good teams.

I would say Texas cockroached OU in 2015.  I would say Iowa State cockroached Oklahoma State in 2011.  I would say Baylor cockroached Kansas State in 2012.  I would say Oklahoma State cockroached OU in 2001.  I would say Kansas St cockroached Texas in 2006.

Cockroaching happens all the time.   Teams that never compete for conference titles but routinely upset teams who do are recidivist cockroaches.

CousinFreddie

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« Reply #69 on: November 25, 2018, 06:10:18 PM »
“Recidivist cockroaches” - heh, love the image

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« Reply #70 on: November 25, 2018, 08:40:38 PM »
Tech was absolutely a cockroach in 2008.  Just because they had a high ranking doesn't mean they were actually national championship contenders-- what happened to them in Norman, and then later in their bowl game, proved their unworthiness.  

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« Reply #71 on: November 25, 2018, 08:52:40 PM »
I think Tech earned their ranking in 2008

at least at the time of the game
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« Reply #72 on: November 25, 2018, 10:09:05 PM »
I think Tech earned their ranking in 2008

at least at the time of the game
No doubt and they outplayed Texas most of that game too.  Just look at the total yard or first down stats.  Golden opportunity for Texas, and they whiffed.

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« Reply #73 on: November 25, 2018, 10:12:56 PM »
in the minds of Horn fans, every loss is a cockroaching
True.  They drink that burnt orange colored kool-aid, sing about Gabriel blowing his um Horn (or is it corn), and believe they’re on a mission from God.  It’s pretty simple really and it’s just plum astonishing that the rest of us don’t get it.  Frank we need to get with it, man!

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« Reply #74 on: November 25, 2018, 10:40:24 PM »
I know there's a lot of 'horn fans that lament that Mack only had 2 conference champions during his pretty otherwise amazing run but can you imagine that Texas Tech has still NEVER won a sole conference championship?  They shared the SWC a time or two and shared the XII South with OU/Tex in '08 but never played in the CCG.  

It must suck knowing that your best period of football didn't result in any hardware.  They just fired Kliff today, wonder what direction they'll go next.  Leach really had them dialed in for awhile, I'm still not sure how or why they ran him off and I'm not buying that Adam James bullshit.  

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Re: Ohio State and Tom Herman
« Reply #75 on: November 25, 2018, 10:50:55 PM »
really no need to bring Tech into this

they aren't worthy
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« Reply #76 on: November 26, 2018, 07:35:09 AM »
really no need to bring Tech into this

they aren't worthy
Precisely.  Hence the cockroach accusation.

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« Reply #77 on: November 26, 2018, 10:11:08 AM »
Precisely.  Hence the cockroach accusation.
Translated: hence the “Texas underperformed once again and we suck” accusation

 

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