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longhorn320

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Horns vs Terps
« on: August 11, 2018, 12:26:55 PM »
Enough of this off season talk

Lets talk about something important like the Sept 1 game between Texas and Maryland

The Vegas line favors the Horns by 10 which surprises me

I have no idea what this years Horns team will be like

I just hope we arent embarrassed like last year


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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2018, 03:14:31 PM »
A tale of two opposites.

Maryland wears stupid uniforms, has no history, is an unwelcomed newcomer to a conference whose members don’t even notice them, and has shellshocked players under the heels of a crazy demeaning coach who makes them eat shit sandwiches.

Meanwhile Texas wears traditional uniforms, has more history than recent success, is an undisputed anchor in a conference where everybody Hates them and needs them, and has historically soft pampered players playing for program that has always prided itself on taking the high road and doing things right - even to its own detriment.

So if there is a righteous God (and I believe there is) Texas will win.

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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2018, 04:18:48 PM »
Maryland's interim HC is the guy who was our OC last year, Matt Canada.  Guess we'll see how he does now that he has no one but himself to butt heads with.  

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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2018, 10:54:17 AM »
Last season, a Texas offense that didn't improve much still stuck 41 points on Maryland. The defense, though, was still stuck in "what if my buddy makes a mistake mode" from 2016. They 2nd guessed their way to giving up 51 (with blocked kicks and other hilarity thrown in).
Safe to say, the Texas defense found their way. They learned to trust, and just like a Lifetime Movie, went on to find love.
Right now, the big story is the fallout to the tragic death in May of a Terp OL who, like the rest of the team, was subject to "training" techniques more associated with a drunken frat hazing than that of a degreed athletic trainer. The players were promised a different vibe when summer workouts started. It was apparently more of the same.
The coaching staff has been decimated at a time which should be the absolute worst. Now, then, two things could happen. The players could be so angry at the team that they fall completely apart. Else, they could be so overjoyed by the firings that they bond and play harder.
My short take is that I expect the players will rally around Matt Canada, but not quickly enough to prevail against an angry, athletic Texas defense and an renewed offense eager to take the plastic off its new TE kit.

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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2018, 01:39:08 PM »
A tale of two opposites.

Maryland wears stupid uniforms, has no history, is an unwelcomed newcomer to a conference whose members don’t even notice them, and has shellshocked players under the heels of a crazy demeaning coach who makes them eat shit sandwiches.
Actually they were good once.  In the 50s.  OU played them in two Orange Bowls (and the '53 game could have gone either way):

http://soonerstats.com/football/opponents/details.cfm?oppid=79

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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2018, 04:37:07 PM »
Is Matt Canada related to Ron Mexico?


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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2018, 01:35:06 PM »
We can't lose to Maryland again.

Did Del Conte hire Herman?  Wait.. no he didn't.

As I said, Herman can't lose to Maryland again.

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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2018, 12:38:42 PM »
But ya know, Maryland recruiting hasn't been too bad in recent years.  In rivals in 2018 for example, they were rated on par with Oklahoma State and Baylor.

But still, Texas should beat these guys.  They just really should.  Just like OU really should beat UCLA.  They just really should.  

Go XII teams! 

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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2018, 02:59:00 PM »
well, Texas should beat Okie State and Baylor
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2018, 03:39:25 PM »
I used to take Texas wins against teams like Maryland, Baylor, and even Oklahoma State for granted.

No, not really, because I spent plenty of time watching the Horns during the dark ages of the late 80s and early 90s. 

We're pretty much back there again but I'm hopeful one day we'll be better.

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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2018, 06:35:26 PM »
I think the Horns stick it to Maryland this time.  Guess we'll see.  

I thought so before current events, but situations like the one Maryland is in can be tricky, and what I see a lot of is when a team in UT's position can land that first punch in the mouth, no matter how much a team in Maryland's position is in "rally mode," their resolve does not tend to be so great.  UT may be flat out better, or they may not be but if they keep fighting I think the ball will eventually bounce their way and Maryland may not be up to responding.  If UT jumps out to an early lead, it could get ugly.  

I was reading on another thread in ELA's countdown of teams where 847Badger and some others seem to think we really messed up letting Canada go, and referred to him as "one of the top OC's in the country."  I would love to know what any of that is based on.  We got rid of him because just like the last 3 coaches he worked for, he couldn't get along with the HC.  He did pull off the miracle of making Pitt's Nathan Peterman look like an actual QB, so that's something.  His offense was not really anything different than what we've been doing forever, other than a lot more pre-snap motion.  It was good for freezing some LBs when you could catch them right, but it didn't fool any of the good defenses we played.  He was a "meh" playcaller and he was horrendous at red-zone concepts.  I mean, he wasn't bad by any stretch, but neither was he a clear improvement nor was he worth what we were paying him, especially considering he couldn't get along with half the staff, including his boss.  

I guess we'll see what he's got as the HC, but I'm hard pressed to find too much for Texas to worry about here.

Other than the fact that Texas has kinda sucked during certain of the last 8 seasons.  

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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2018, 11:09:18 AM »
Texas 31, Maryland 21

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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2018, 01:29:35 PM »
UT 42

Maryland 17
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2018, 01:36:30 PM »
I am speechless at how bad this Texas team looks today.    :'(

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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2018, 02:14:15 PM »
I am speechless at how bad this Texas team looks today.    :'(
Yes. They looked really bad early on but I’m glad I wasn’t the first Texas fan to bitch about it.  Looks like the game isn’t over yet.

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« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2018, 04:06:11 PM »
They did not look good.  I won't sugar coat it.   Yet we are still in the game beginning of the fourth quarter.  

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« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2018, 05:38:36 PM »
I'll take this years team over last years team
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« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2018, 05:40:55 PM »
Props to Maryland.

What a disappointing loss.  Could be another brutal season.  Not sure the coaching staff is near as smart as they think they are.  I'm still not a fan of Ehlinger.  The kid has a great story.  He's overcome a lot.  I'd love for him to succeed.  Just doesn't seem like he's ready to become a smart, high percentage passer.

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« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2018, 06:26:59 PM »
Del Conte owes Herman nothing.  And I am thankful for that.

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« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2018, 11:49:48 PM »
Swept by Maryland(!) in a home and home??

Jeez.  I’m beginning to think the ECFGs really do exist, and Texas must have po’d ‘em mighty bad

Anyway condolences Horns fans.  That must have been painful 

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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2018, 01:36:02 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2018, 09:51:42 AM »
I'm nowhere close to being a qualified coach, but there was absolutely a bunch of BS playcalling in that game.  And not the funny kind of Bevo Crap that is well timed in a particular opponent's endzone, but the kind that should have been disposed of well before the opening game of the season. 
How embarrassing.  

But an early loss is a good way to minimize those expectations in hopes we can only go up from here.   This team did not play smart, and they have a lot of work to do.  Weakness exposed, and many dumb mistakes were made, but it's always better to learn this early and reassess all parts of the problem here. 

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« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2018, 12:56:11 PM »
But an early loss is a good way to minimize those expectations in hopes we can only go up from here....   
I love you Erin but if you're going to go all Pollyanna on us, screw you.

We don't have to put up with your optimism.

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« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2018, 01:40:12 PM »
Just brutal.

Is it college baseball season yet?


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« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2018, 01:57:03 PM »
It was obvious the coaches didn't believe in their own running game early on. Texas can run the ball inside this season, and that's gonna help a lot. They didn't trust that ability, which led to 20 minutes of dead offense.

Defensively, this was the wrong game to wonder who's playing LB and boundary CB - yet that's exactly what happened when Gary Johnson got tossed for targeting and Devante Davis stung his neck. Both of those positions are responsible for managing the "jet sweep" action that Maryland fell in love with.

The defense still did everything it needed to do, then let drives continue on penalties. Then the 20 yard punts started. Even after all this, Maryland looked to die in the afternoon heat and sun, something Texas could easily handle.

Cue the rain. Let's stop the game for 90 minutes, cool everything off, and let the Terps reload.

Texas should be good enough not to lose to Maryland when a few bad beats happen. This still goes down as  0-1 the same way a 50 point rout does. However, in reality, this team is several rough edges away from being a power.

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« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2018, 04:16:12 PM »
Fans are so offense centric nowadays.

Clue to the modern fan - Maryland scored 34 points.  You will lose most of the time when you give up 34.

Yes I know Sam couldn't be the Roger Staubach comeback hero that we all expect.  Or even Case McCoy.  But did I mention - Maryland scored 34.  Running jet sweeps for infinity.  Receivers coasting thru the open abyss.  This game was lost in the first half.

By the defense.

No wonder these young wonder boy coaches are vaulted from 2-bit programs that hang 60+ per game, without a semblance of defensive competence.  Like TOM HERMAN.

And notwithstanding his youthful arrogance, our boy Tom finds himself ensconced in a little Urban Meyer tittie bar drama on the side.  I hardly believe that Ohio State gives two sheets about young Mr. Herman, unless indeed he did instigate what he denies.

Texas will stumble itself into a competent, well-rounded football coach eventually.  The money dictates it.  Del Conte is a good one to have at the helm.

The era of the offensive head coach has primed the coaching carousel.  They're in and out, while it seems the defensive guys hold steady.  Gary Patterson.  How in hades is TCU a winner?  Oh yeah, defense.

We should have stepped aside and let LSU take Herman.  Perhaps a wiser AD would have.  But our interim AD went with the fever and fervor of the fans, and we snatched up the next coach that was built by UH quarterbacks.  (Ok, so Briles worked out, but Sumlin didn't...)

Anyway, Texas started this game asleep.  Maryland came out ballin'.  No, Sam is not the next Colt.  But Colt had more talent around him, including OL.

But defense really concerns me.  We lost some major contributors last year.  This could get ugly.  All Herman will do is scratch his head and wonder why we can't score 70 per game like Houston did in that Pop Warner league.  He's not gonna fix a defense.

Charlie only got 3 years.  This means Tom only gets 3 at most, unless he cracks the 10-win threshold next year.  Plus, I'm not Del Conte - but I sense that Herman is high maintenance as a personality.  But that's just me.

Maryland scored 34 people.

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« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2018, 04:19:59 PM »
I'm nowhere close to being a qualified coach, but there was absolutely a bunch of BS playcalling in that game.

Texas defense should have called the "no touchdown" play.

Ok, I'll let it go.  She's a girl.

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« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2018, 05:02:45 PM »
Good heavens, T95 is actually right about something for once! ;)

The defense lost this game.  The defense lost the last Maryland game, too.  

I don't think we have a single starter on defense that would have cracked the 2-deep of the 2005 team.

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« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2018, 08:56:45 AM »
The real question is......

Can we beat Tulsa?
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« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2018, 11:21:41 AM »
If the loss bothers you that much, keep in mind that this is why most teams play a directional vocational college for their first game.

When you crushed that team by 30 points, it's just a matter of going to the tape on Monday and telling your young d-backs, "Hey, this is what a pick play looks like. You're gonna need to recognize it and pass coverage next time!". Similarly, I can tell my young LBs, "You can't get inside-outed on these jet sweeps. You fell for the dive, then got washed out around the edge. Keep your outside shoulder free, strafe down, and funnel the runner to boundary. We've got safeties coming downhill to stop that dive!".

As it is, those plays cost Texas 21 points that they needed back later. The defense corrected their mistakes (on an unknown scheme from an unknown coach running an unknown system) after 20 minutes of game time. Even then, the results would not be so disastrous without ill timed "3rd and long" penalties keeping drives going long after they were snuffed. Unfortunately, the offense did not trust the run game, and did not do anything during this 20 minute adjustment.

The loss is galling. That's certain. However, I'm philosophically opposed to heeled teams like Texas scheduling pocket lint. Many teams played worse than Texas on Saturday, and most of them won.

 

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