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ELA

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Re: ~2018 NFL Thread~
« Reply #60 on: September 09, 2018, 10:20:55 PM »
Mack is absurd

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Re: ~2018 NFL Thread~
« Reply #61 on: September 09, 2018, 10:38:20 PM »
I just remember him looking like he got shot out of a gun on his returns.  It was intimidating
When he actually returned it, I would agree. His willingness to settle was a point of frustration for M fans.
How good is Mack? My goodness

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Re: ~2018 NFL Thread~
« Reply #62 on: September 09, 2018, 11:32:37 PM »
It feels like every NFL coach knows the best way to win offensively, but hates to employ it unless necessary.  With a good QB, going pace seems unstoppable

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Re: ~2018 NFL Thread~
« Reply #63 on: September 09, 2018, 11:57:48 PM »
I guess Aaron Rodgers is pretty good, huh? 

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Re: ~2018 NFL Thread~
« Reply #64 on: September 10, 2018, 11:24:33 AM »
Mack is absurd
Dumbest trade I’ve ever seen. 
He’s arguably the best defensive player on the planet a future Hall of Fame player just entering his prime and you trade him? Makes zero sense.

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« Reply #65 on: September 10, 2018, 11:27:43 AM »
I guess Aaron Rodgers is pretty good, huh?
Yeah, he and Brady are just on another level from every other QB in the game. They are 1A and 1B in my eyes.
I love Mack. Bears fleeced the Raiders in that trade imo. But just goes to show how much more valuable an elite QB is than an elite defensive edge player. As good as Mack is, not sure any defensive player is worth $25 million a year. Only guy who is worth that sort of scratch is a QB. With the rule changes and the way the game is played today, the NFL game today is all about the QB. 

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Re: ~2018 NFL Thread~
« Reply #66 on: September 10, 2018, 08:23:28 PM »
Dumbest trade I’ve ever seen.
He’s arguably the best defensive player on the planet a future Hall of Fame player just entering his prime and you trade him? Makes zero sense.
unless you can't afford to pay him because you're paying yer QB too much
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Re: ~2018 NFL Thread~
« Reply #67 on: September 10, 2018, 10:34:21 PM »
Shocked that the Patricia hire is this bad.  Shocked I tell you.

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« Reply #69 on: September 10, 2018, 10:43:28 PM »
Shocked that the Patricia hire is this bad.  Shocked I tell you.
Seems like every Belichick assistant follows the Charlie Weiss/Romeo Crennel trajectory
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Re: ~2018 NFL Thread~
« Reply #70 on: September 10, 2018, 11:29:03 PM »
unless you can't afford to pay him because you're paying yer QB too much
they paid Derek Carr a lot but the cap is going up. They could’ve made it work but it would’ve probably meant not re-signing Amari Cooper when his deal is up.
Cooper is a good starting NFL receiver. He’s not special. Khalil Mack? Now he is special. With a capital S.

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« Reply #71 on: September 10, 2018, 11:30:34 PM »
Shocked that the Patricia hire is this bad.  Shocked I tell you.
very predictable.
Kinda funny how the Patriots defense- which was mostly hot garbage last year- looked light years better game 1 against Houston without Patricia.
Lions probably not gonna win 8 games this year.

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« Reply #72 on: September 10, 2018, 11:59:48 PM »
they paid Derek Carr a lot but the cap is going up. They could’ve made it work but it would’ve probably meant not re-signing Amari Cooper when his deal is up.
Cooper is a good starting NFL receiver. He’s not special. Khalil Mack? Now he is special. With a capital S.
This

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Re: ~2018 NFL Thread~
« Reply #73 on: September 11, 2018, 12:02:27 AM »
very predictable.
Kinda funny how the Patriots defense- which was mostly hot garbage last year- looked light years better game 1 against Houston without Patricia.
Lions probably not gonna win 8 games this year.
8?  They won't win 6.  Their schedule is tough, I was having trouble finding 8 wins before discovering how bad they were, and that was giving them a W tonight, their easiest game of the season.  I think 4-12 or 5-11.  How you do that with Stafford is insane, but tonight shows how much he has been covering up.  It took him being excellent just to get the team to mediocre.  When he sucks, you see how they have no Plan B.

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Re: ~2018 NFL Thread~
« Reply #74 on: September 11, 2018, 08:32:07 AM »
Lions probably not gonna win 8 games this year.
Misery loves company,can you float a few of those Clevelands way?

Evidently,new NFL coaches went 0-7 in week 1
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Re: ~2018 NFL Thread~
« Reply #75 on: September 11, 2018, 10:44:20 PM »
the bears lost yards on this play 


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« Reply #76 on: September 12, 2018, 12:45:04 PM »
the bears lost yards on this play


Tribusky sucks. I still can't believe the Bears traded all those picks to move up one spot and drafted him that high.

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Re: ~2018 NFL Thread~
« Reply #77 on: September 12, 2018, 12:46:25 PM »
yes you can

cause it's Da Bears
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Re: ~2018 NFL Thread~
« Reply #78 on: September 12, 2018, 02:18:08 PM »
yes you can

cause it's Da Bears
it's just what happens in the NFL right now. You need a QB so bad that teams always reach.
It was an awful QB class that draft and they plunged and reached on a guy that just wasn't all that good.
They should've just sat pat at #3 saved those picks they gave to the 49ers and taken DeShaun Watson. Watson was the only QB in that draft that I'd have touched with a 1st round pick. Said that many times on this board before that draft.
Bears would be a completely different team with Watson and those picks. They'd have been dangerous. Packers or Vikings going to win that division.

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« Reply #79 on: September 12, 2018, 02:25:42 PM »
should be shocking to no one- reports filtering out that the Lions players hate their coach Matt Patricia and feel like he's in over his head. Lol. SO predictable.

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« Reply #80 on: September 12, 2018, 02:34:17 PM »
by the way....NFL head coaching records of Belichik disciples?

Romeo Crennel: 28-55
Eric Mangini: 33-47
Josh McDaniels: 11-17
Bill O'Brien: 31-34
Nick Saban: 15-17
Jim Schwartz: 29-51
Matt Patricia: 0-1

Combined W-L totals?  147-222. .398 winning percentage.

Belichik's record in Cleveland? 36-44. Belichik's record in NE without Brady? 5-13. 41-57 pre-Brady. .418 winning percentage.

Makes me think even more that this NE thing has been mostly about Brady and his greatness as a clutch QB and leader of men.

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Re: ~2018 NFL Thread~
« Reply #81 on: September 12, 2018, 02:48:55 PM »
winning in the NFL had long been about the quality and level of play at the QB position

why some GMs don't seem to understand this.......... I'll never know

why reach in the draft, go get someone that is already proven, and pay them

and BTW, don't stock up on head case WRs, stock the O-line with pass blockers that do not allow your big $$ QB to take a beating

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Re: ~2018 NFL Thread~
« Reply #82 on: September 12, 2018, 03:13:33 PM »
winning in the NFL had long been about the quality and level of play at the QB position

why some GMs don't seem to understand this.......... I'll never know

why reach in the draft, go get someone that is already proven, and pay them

and BTW, don't stock up on head case WRs, stock the O-line with pass blockers that do not allow your big $$ QB to take a beating


That's the craziest part about the Lions.  They are this bad with a pretty darn good QB.  He's no Brady or Rodgers, or even Brees or Roethlisberger.  But he's been a legit top 8ish QB for a few years now, and they peaked with a couple Wildcard losses.

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Re: ~2018 NFL Thread~
« Reply #83 on: September 12, 2018, 03:38:44 PM »
never a great defense in Detroit

some franchises just seem to destroy good QBs, but the Lion's O-line isn't terrible at pass protect

really should have dominated the Vikings and Bears with their sad string of QBs during the Stafford years
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« Reply #84 on: September 12, 2018, 03:57:21 PM »
That's the craziest part about the Lions.  They are this bad with a pretty darn good QB.  He's no Brady or Rodgers, or even Brees or Roethlisberger.  But he's been a legit top 8ish QB for a few years now, and they peaked with a couple Wildcard losses.
NO one is Brady or Rodgers. They are just on another level. Brady with his leadership and knowledge of the game. Rodgers with his ability to throw pin point accurately on the run. No one can match those things.
Stafford is better than Roethlisberger is now. Big Ben is all washed up imo. Just doesn't have it anymore.
Stafford is easily the best QB the Lions have ever had. The guy is tough as nails too. He's taken a beating. Never had a real OL or run game and he's still produced. He's hidden A LOT of warts on that Lions team over the years. Lions haven't had a 100 yard rusher in 68 games. Last RB to go for 100 for them was Reggie Bush in 2013 I believe. That is pathetic.

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Re: ~2018 NFL Thread~
« Reply #85 on: September 13, 2018, 09:41:48 PM »
Bungles looking sharp

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« Reply #86 on: September 14, 2018, 02:54:04 PM »
Bungles looking sharp
I think that game was more about what the Ravens aren't than what the Bungles are. Flacco still sucks. He has always sucked. Why they gave him that massive contract after that fluke Super Bowl season is beyond me. He just might get Harbaugh fired. If I was Harbaugh I'd have some balls and just start Lamar Jackson already and be done with it. Seen enough of Fluke-O.
Dalton still looked like a soul-less talent-less ginger shit awful QB in my mind. I have no idea why they keep committing to him. Bengals might have the best roster man for man in the entire NFL. Unfortunately Marvin Lewis is still their head coach and Andy Dalton is still their QB. And like most highly drafted Alabama DB's in the NFL- Dre Kirkpatrick still sucks.

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Re: ~2018 NFL Thread~
« Reply #87 on: September 14, 2018, 03:02:26 PM »
Stafford is easily the best QB the Lions have ever had. The guy is tough as nails too.
Bobby Layne and the 1950's say hello
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« Reply #88 on: September 14, 2018, 04:05:20 PM »
Bobby Layne and the 1950's say hello
Stafford went to the same high school as Bobby Layne in Texas. Highland Park.
Bobby Layne is 2nd best. Stafford is first. Rest of the QB's that have ever played for the Lions have pretty much sucked.

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« Reply #89 on: September 14, 2018, 04:23:20 PM »
Show me the hardware you can't compare across 60 year variances.Every things different,nutrition,fitness,scheduling,surfaces,natural progression,etc;Just win ,Baby !!!
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