Weather, Climate, Environment, and Energy

[Cincydawg]

$10?  In France, every toll was 8-10 euros and they were every 40 miles or so.  We paid over 100 E on one day trip.

https://www.viamichelin.com/web/Routes/Route-Lyons-69000-Rhone-France-to-Paris-75000-Ville_de_Paris-France

Paris to Lyon is 4 and a half hours drive and 72 Euro, nearly $90.

[Brutus Buckeye]

You guys are advocating for more toll roads?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEeqCbEFIJw

[Cincydawg]

I was pondering the viability of toll roads separated from current busy interstates, perhaps truck only, or car only.  

I was thinking of I-75 between here and Atlanta for example.  It carries very heavy truck traffic.  Maybe build a two land divided truck highway separate from it and charge tolls.

[Temp430]

Where's the spots?

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/04/11/solar-activity-crashes-the-sun-looks-like-a-cueball/


I wonder if that is why the robins have not yet returned?   Woke up to a snow covered lawn again again this morning.  It's snowed in April before and I've seen robins hanging out in the snow in past years.

[FearlessF]

What would be "nice to see" is the outline of a plan, something starting with where we are today on CO2 emissions and where we plan to be in 2030, 2040, etc., how much it will cost, and how much it will lower global temperatures (according to the models).  I think that would be enlightening, even if it is only for the US (for now).

This gets more difficult as older nuclear power plants start to be taken off line of course.

hah, that would kill any spending - since it would very expensive and futile - so that would never happen

[Cincydawg]

And that is my point obviously, we don't see any plans because there are none.  That's why politicians have meetings and sign papers instead of developing realistic plans.

[FearlessF]

Ed Zachery

there have been plans, they are just not realistic

so they are buried and never spoken of again

[betarhoalphadelta]

I was pondering the viability of toll roads separated from current busy interstates, perhaps truck only, or car only.  

I was thinking of I-75 between here and Atlanta for example.  It carries very heavy truck traffic.  Maybe build a two land divided truck highway separate from it and charge tolls.

The traffic through any corridor like that would be much better if people would stay out of the damn left lane except when passing.

[Brutus Buckeye]

In Ohio they used to have a lower speed limit for semis than they did for cars. 

Oh man, was that ever frustrating. 

[FearlessF]

The traffic through any corridor like that would be much better if people would stay out of the damn left lane except when passing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPJmjJhHMn0

[Cincydawg]

On I-75, traffic is often so heavy you have to drive in the left lane except for the portions that are 6 laned.

The right lane is for trucks that slow way down on those hills.

[Cincydawg]

A truck only divided 2 lane might be affordable with tolls and have passing lanes on hills.  It could have fewer exits and bypass Knoxville and whatnot and cut straight through.

[Brutus Buckeye]

It wouldn't make much of a difference if the Trucks are allowed to continue to use I-75 in order to avoid paying the tolls. 

[Cincydawg]

The idea is that I-75 would be local trucks only near cities.  The "truck route" would be faster and stand alone at a price that was sufficient to fund it with no 4 wheelers.  It could be built with heavy truck traffic in mind and include truck stops in the media every 100 miles or so.