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Title: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: MarqHusker on October 09, 2017, 03:14:42 PM
no surprise.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 09, 2017, 03:20:12 PM
Perfect landing spot for Mike Riley then.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 09, 2017, 03:22:27 PM
yeah, the whole thing was pretty weird. 

I don't think we'll ever get the full story regarding why he would leave a Big Ten powerhouse for a Pac 12 doormat. 

The obvious scenario is that King Berry blew a gasket after the CCG debacle, so CGA took the first bus out of town. 

Or he just really likes the West. I dunno. 

Personally, I don't really buy the whole admissions spin. 
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: MarqHusker on October 09, 2017, 03:27:21 PM
Apparently going to forgo the dough, in order to walk away.  I guess that's why depart/fired is in order.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 09, 2017, 03:39:44 PM
yeah, the whole thing was pretty weird.

I don't think we'll ever get the full story regarding why he would leave a Big Ten powerhouse for a Pac 12 doormat.

The obvious scenario is that King Berry blew a gasket after the CCG debacle, so CGA took the first bus out of town.

Or he just really likes the West. I dunno.

Personally, I don't really buy the whole admissions spin.
The last part was the biggest part of why he left. You don't have to buy it, but it's true, and I suggest you do buy it. He said so himself. 

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/wisconsins-admission-standards-pushed-gary-andersen-to-oregon-st/

He secretly interviewed (drove to Rockford, IL) for and took the Oregon State job before the 59-0 debacle. Some have said that had an affect on game prep. I'm not buying that. Regardless, the scenario you post is not at all obvious, or even remotely true.

His wife did not like living in Madison.

He wanted to recruit JuCo players and could not.

He was clearly not on the same page with his boss. He was a "say one thing and do another thing" guy. He fleeced King Barry. That's hard to do.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 09, 2017, 03:43:28 PM
Yeah, I have no doubt that both parties reached a consensus on the PR spin.

Didn't know about the top secret interview. 
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 09, 2017, 03:52:38 PM
I was pretty impressed that he actually stated his main reason for leaving. Most coaches wouldn't do that. 

Needless to say, he'll never be the coach at Stanford..
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: CatsbyAZ on October 09, 2017, 04:08:41 PM
First hearing of GAs super duper secret interview. It makes sense though. I myself once put in an equivalent 0-59 effort at a job once I'd interviewed well enough to land a different job. Any other details? 

GAs reasoning for leaving Madison has always been believable; it's the exact reasoning Urban Meyer gave for not taking the Notre Dame job in 2004.

But if GAs wife didn't like Madison isn't it easy enough remind her that you're the state's highest paid employee?
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 09, 2017, 04:11:21 PM
It will be interesting to see where he winds up. 

USU doesn't really need him at the moment, but another MWC team might take a flier on him. 

He ran roughshod over that conference at a program that had been struggling mightily before he showed up. 
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 09, 2017, 04:17:58 PM
First hearing of GAs super duper secret interview. It makes sense though. I myself once put in an equivalent 0-59 effort at a job once I'd interviewed well enough to land a different job. Any other details? 
The OrSU AD flew into Rockford because he didn't want his plane going to Madison. So Andersen had to drive there (I think in a snow storm no less) to interview. This was on the Tuesday or Wednesday (I can't recall which) before the championship game with Ohio State.

OrSU already knew Riley was leaving (officially announced on Friday that same week) for Nebraska and was reaching to fill its spot quickly.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 09, 2017, 04:20:22 PM
It will be interesting to see where he winds up. 
Well, he's kinda getting a "reputation" and it's not good. So year, it will be interesting. I don't think it's the MWC though. I'm thinking more like FCS, somewhere in Utah/Montana/Wyoming/Colorado. Not sure what's out there to be honest.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 09, 2017, 04:31:40 PM
Wow, OSU3 had the same AD that he worked for at USU. Weird. 

http://www.sltrib.com/sports/2017/10/09/utah-native-gary-andersen-out-as-oregon-states-football-coach-and-hes-waiving-11-million-contract/

The coach-athletic director combination that once revived Utah State’s downtrodden football program stayed together for only six games at Oregon State.
Salt Lake City native Gary Andersen resigned as the Beavers’ coach Monday in a surprising development — topped only by the news that Andersen is forgoing the remaining $11 million on a contract scheduled to run through 2021 with no buyout provision, according to The Oregonian of Portland.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 09, 2017, 04:34:38 PM
Well, he's kinda getting a "reputation" and it's not good. So year, it will be interesting. I don't think it's the MWC though. I'm thinking more like FCS, somewhere in Utah/Montana/Wyoming/Colorado. Not sure what's out there to be honest.
Well there's only one FCS Conference out west.

The Big Sky, or "Pig Sty" as it likes to be called.
















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[th]BIG SKY[/th]
[th]OVERALL[/th]
Eastern Washington (http://www.bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=1003)3-04-2
Weber State (http://www.bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=1014)2-04-1
Northern Arizona (http://www.bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=1008)2-03-2
Montana (http://www.bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=1005)2-14-2
Montana State (http://www.bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=1006)2-12-3
Southern Utah (http://www.bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=1012)1-13-2
Sacramento State (http://www.bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=1011)1-12-3
Idaho State (http://www.bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=1004)1-23-3
UC Davis (http://www.bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=1013)1-23-3
Northern Colorado (http://www.bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=1009)1-22-3
North Dakota (http://www.bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=1007)1-22-4
Portland State (http://www.bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=1010)0-20-5
Cal Poly (http://www.bigskyconf.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=1002)0-30-6
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Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: fezzador on October 09, 2017, 04:37:05 PM
He may have to settle for a coordinator position for the time being.

I'm usually not a fan of mid-season dismissals, but this probably was the right move at the right time.  The season's already lost, and it gives ORSU time to search for a quality hire.  Mike Bobo or Bryan Harsin might be worth looking into, since both CSU and BSU have some overlap in PAC territory, or maybe Chris Kliemann from NDSU (granted Corvallis might be even more remote than Fargo, if that's possible, but at least November is usually a fall month in Oregon)

Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: MarqHusker on October 09, 2017, 04:49:35 PM
Big Sky has gobbled up a fair amount of P5 roadkill.   I was revisiting Paul Wulff's historically awful tenure at Wazzu the other night, and noticed he's an assistant now at Sac State.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: ELA on October 09, 2017, 04:58:23 PM
Wow, OSU3 had the same AD that he worked for at USU. Weird.

http://www.sltrib.com/sports/2017/10/09/utah-native-gary-andersen-out-as-oregon-states-football-coach-and-hes-waiving-11-million-contract/

The coach-athletic director combination that once revived Utah State’s downtrodden football program stayed together for only six games at Oregon State.
Salt Lake City native Gary Andersen resigned as the Beavers’ coach Monday in a surprising development — topped only by the news that Andersen is forgoing the remaining $11 million on a contract scheduled to run through 2021 with no buyout provision, according to The Oregonian of Portland.
Yeah, who made Pitt fans really question the state of their program when he left Pitt to return west.  I think he's from out west and the wife was getting homesick though.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: ELA on October 09, 2017, 05:06:10 PM
Apparently he's waiving his buyout, which would have entitled him to $12.7 million.

Makes me think there's something off the field he doesn't want getting out there.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: DevilFroggy on October 09, 2017, 09:14:40 PM
Apparently he's waiving his buyout, which would have entitled him to $12.7 million.

Makes me think there's something off the field he doesn't want getting out there.
My thoughts too. You don't just walk away from that kind of money unless there's a DAMN good reason. We'll probably never know what that reason is, at least "officially" outside of some rumor mill.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: ELA on October 09, 2017, 09:15:59 PM
My thoughts too. You don't just walk away from that kind of money unless there's a DAMN good reason. We'll probably never know what that reason is, at least "officially" outside of some rumor mill.
Said the same about Kevin Wilson at Indiana, and it came out almost immediately right?
I bet he wishes he had taken the money.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: FearlessF on October 10, 2017, 12:13:49 AM
Perfect landing spot for Mike Riley then.
yup
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 10, 2017, 07:32:09 AM
Some familiar rings to this one...

http://www.oregonlive.com/collegefootball/index.ssf/2017/10/despite_issues_within_the_prog.html
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: ELA on October 10, 2017, 07:52:17 AM
Some familiar rings to this one...

http://www.oregonlive.com/collegefootball/index.ssf/2017/10/despite_issues_within_the_prog.html

Really?
I assumed it was a given he was fired at the end of the year.  A little surprise it happened now, and I guess leaving $12 million on the table is shocking, but I thought him being done there was a given.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 10, 2017, 08:08:24 AM
Sounds like they were going to stay the course, but it also sounds like they didn't know how bad things were in that coaches room.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: FearlessF on October 10, 2017, 07:39:57 PM
Mike Riley seemed genuinely shocked
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 10, 2017, 07:49:08 PM
There is stuff coming out that makes it not shocking at all. Nothing bad, except that he hated his staff and wanted more JuCo kids and grad transfers because he didn't think he could win with the kids he had. That stuff is not shocking...

Weird dude.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: FearlessF on October 10, 2017, 07:52:21 PM
ya just never know for sure what's going on behind the scenes
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: buckeyewalt on October 10, 2017, 08:13:31 PM
It will be interesting to see where he winds up.

USU doesn't really need him at the moment, but another MWC team might take a flier on him.

He ran roughshod over that conference at a program that had been struggling mightily before he showed up.
If thing go as they are now, Tennessee will probably be looking for a new coach. JMO
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 10, 2017, 09:00:53 PM
I don't see him in another P5 job to be very honest. He's just not built for that and he would be a disaster at Tennessee to boot. He likes finesse teams with spread-option QB's and little linemen.

That doesn't work in the SEC (or B1G).

Plus, he's got a record of quitting now. He quit on Wisconsin and now he's quit on Oregon State. Who wants to take a chance on that?

Honestly I think he's done - mostly because he just wants to be done.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: MarqHusker on October 10, 2017, 10:16:26 PM
The text msgs he sent the columnist during the season were quite revealing.  This does not seem to be a whim, or something else at all.  He knew gd well what he was going to do.

Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: TyphonInc on October 10, 2017, 11:25:58 PM
The whole losing 25 pounds during the season tells me there could be a non-football reason for stepping down.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 11, 2017, 08:00:43 AM
The text msgs he sent the columnist during the season were quite revealing.  This does not seem to be a whim, or something else at all.  He knew gd well what he was going to do.


I almost want to feel bad for the guy, but knowing how many lies he told (and got caught in) while he was coaching UW, I really can't.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 11, 2017, 08:25:22 AM
This is what I was getting at when I said more stuff was coming out. Now it's all over the internet so here is a text from Andersen to an Oregon reporter:


Andersen (Sept. 20): “I hired the wrong (expletive) guys and are still working our way through a bunch of recruiting years that stunk!! It’s year three! If these (expletives) can’t get it right I will not just say fire them and start over!! That’s not the way to go about it. If I (expletive) it up that bad I will take the bullet and ride off into the sunset! I will stay old school!! I will not die doing this (expletive)!! Stay tuned!”


http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/10/gary-andersen-oregon-state-quit-mutually-parted-ways-angry-texts-assistants-college-football-pac-12


You can't do this and still get a job somewhere. Just can't.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: fezzador on October 11, 2017, 08:34:42 AM
Very un-LDS of him too.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 11, 2017, 08:38:54 AM
He's not LDS.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 11, 2017, 09:00:17 AM
He's Catholic, iirc. 
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 11, 2017, 09:03:05 AM
Pretty sure, yeah. Doesn't really matter but he's definitely not LDS.

He needs to start drinking for sure though.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: GopherRock on October 11, 2017, 09:44:22 AM
Put me down in the "Something smells funny" camp. 
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 11, 2017, 10:07:39 AM
Put me down in the "Something smells funny" camp.
I was in that camp when he left Madison. I was right too.
Title: Re: Gary Anderson going to depart/fired (Ore St.)
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 11, 2017, 10:37:40 AM
The whole losing 25 pounds during the season tells me there could be a non-football reason for stepping down.
I wouldn't necessarily attribute this to a major health problem, though. Stress can induce this. When I was getting divorced (which I was relieved/happy to be doing), it was still so stressful that I lost about 17 pounds in <6 weeks.
If he's been stewing over this for the last couple of months, on top of all the normal stress of being a CFB coach, I could see that happening.