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Title: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: Cincydawg on May 29, 2019, 03:59:30 PM
Aside from your team, your main rivals, etc., who are teams "out there" that for you have an interesting story line?  AS we chat B1G teams a lot, perhaps it's understanding several of mine are from that conference.

Nebraska - Second year coaches, nice finish last year, some guys coming back.
Purdue - Interesting coaching situation, able to knock someone off unexpectedly.
I'd also include NW, Wisconsin, and Iowa, and maybe Michigan, to a lesser extent.

Syracuse - The only ACC team to test Clemson of late.  Nobody else in the ACC looks particularly notable.

Texas - Strong year, great finish, is it real or Memorex?

Washington - Who starts at QB?  Is this yet another example of how critical a great coach can be to a program?

Army - Hey!

Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2020 you may watch
Post by: FearlessF on May 29, 2019, 04:09:32 PM
so, is this regarding the upcoming season in September of 2019 or are you projecting out to the following sept of 2020?

I'm interested in many old friends from the Big 12, Colorado in the PAC, Mizzou and others in the SEC and a few teams from Florida that have bumped heads with the Huskers through the 80s and 90s

Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: Cincydawg on May 29, 2019, 04:14:57 PM
I meant 2019.  I was trying to make some reservations for NYD and we would be departing in 2020.

Everything is booked that I've checked thus far.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: FearlessF on May 29, 2019, 04:16:45 PM
you've got a new kitchen and a nice neighborhood

why all the travelling?
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: Cincydawg on May 29, 2019, 04:23:46 PM
I also have a wife.  I basically do whatever she wants.  We have been going somewhere over the December Holidays with as many of the family as can make it for the past few years.  She prefers somewhere warm, last year was Hawaii.  I would be fine with staying here almost full time frankly.  I prefer travel to see interesting things, history, culture, etc., not to "lie on the beach".
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: CatsbyAZ on May 29, 2019, 04:30:30 PM
I will add teams as the thread grows, but for starters I want to see how the following four usually bad to mediocre programs follow up on last season’s big successes that I’m surprised didn’t get their coaches immediately employed at a higher level: Kentucky with Stoops, Iowa State with Matt Campbell, Syracuse with Dino Barbers, and Purdue with Brohm. And I will be expecting these four names to be speculated as soon as any big time job opens, if not constantly brought up when discontentment is setting in amongst fanbases who want their guy canned - looking at you Clay Helton and Gus Malzahn.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: Cincydawg on May 29, 2019, 04:36:25 PM
Good point about coaches.  Often, we see more coaches on the hot seat than we do coaches who have done well at lesser programs.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: FearlessF on May 29, 2019, 04:42:07 PM
Kentucky with Stoops, Iowa State with Matt Campbell, Syracuse with Dino Barbers, and Purdue with Brohm. 
yes, those are programs I'm interested to see if they continue to trend up

the Cyclone-Hawkeye game will be interesting
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: FearlessF on May 29, 2019, 04:44:41 PM
She prefers somewhere warm, last year was Hawaii.  I would be fine with staying here almost full time frankly.  I prefer travel to see interesting things, history, culture, etc., not to "lie on the beach".
I have two daughters.  After trips to Hawaii, St. Pete's beach, a cruise, another trip to Hawaii, I told them I was done with beach trips for awhile.

planning to visit the San Fran Bay area next with them when we can work the schedule.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: Cincydawg on May 29, 2019, 04:57:12 PM
Our family is widely spread, so trying to find a place they can all get to and want to go to is not easy.

Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: FearlessF on May 29, 2019, 05:25:12 PM
Atlanta has a nice accessible airport - it's warm that time of year - plenty of things to see and do
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 29, 2019, 05:29:16 PM
I will add teams as the thread grows, but for starters I want to see how the following four usually bad to mediocre programs follow up on last season’s big successes that I’m surprised didn’t get their coaches immediately employed at a higher level: Kentucky with Stoops, Iowa State with Matt Campbell, Syracuse with Dino Barbers, and Purdue with Brohm. And I will be expecting these four names to be speculated as soon as any big time job opens, if not constantly brought up when discontentment is setting in amongst fanbases who want their guy canned - looking at you Clay Helton and Gus Malzahn.
To be honest, Brohm is in a pretty good spot right now. Huge salary, [relatively] low expectations. Players love him, fan base loves him, he seems to be getting administrative support. And he's a low-key sort of guy who I honestly believe signed up to do a job [rebuilding the program] and isn't going to leave unless he's succeeded or he doesn't feel like he's getting the institutional support to succeed.

He almost left for Louisville, which isn't a "higher level" job but it's mama calling him home. If he's not going to leave for his alma mater, I highly doubt an extra million or two is going to sway him to a "higher level" job where he'll walk in and they're expecting national championships and CFP berths basically immediately. If he wanted that, he could have gone to Tennessee after the 2017 season.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 29, 2019, 05:31:41 PM
I have two daughters.  After trips to Hawaii, St. Pete's beach, a cruise, another trip to Hawaii, I told them I was done with beach trips for awhile.

planning to visit the San Fran Bay area next with them when we can work the schedule.
Laying on the beach doing nothing is my personal idea of hell. 
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 29, 2019, 06:06:20 PM
Laying on the beach doing nothing is my personal idea of hell.

Yes. Yes, it is.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 29, 2019, 06:10:35 PM
I'm really curious about how OSU is going to perform without Meyer.

I've also got my eye on Auburn, USC and Miami (teams my own has taken down in bowl games since 2015).

Right now, I like Washington to win the PAC, Georgia to win the SEC, Clemson to win the ACC and Texas to win the XII. So, I'll be watching them.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 29, 2019, 06:20:04 PM
I'm really curious about how OSU is going to perform without Meyer.
Me too. I feel like OSU got a master in Tressel, and then due to the circumstances of his departure it was clear that Fickell was basically an interim coach. Then they got their white whale in Meyer.

Now we're left to see who Day is and what he's capable of. He's job-hopped around the industry ever since he started coaching, with his only stint longer than 2 years being WR coach at Boston College. No head coaching experience outside of 3 games as interim HC.

On the positive side, if you look at his coaching history he's had multiple stops at the same team in increasingly influential positions. He spent 2 years at Boston College as a GA. He left for a few years, then returned for 5 years as WR coach. He left for a few years, then returned for 2 years as OC. Obviously he was impressing people who wanted to bring him back and give him more responsibility in successive iterations, which is a very good sign.

But "a very good sign" doesn't mean "ready to be head coach of THE Ohio State University Buckeyes."

I'm intrigued by this one as well.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: Cincydawg on May 29, 2019, 06:56:23 PM
OSU is interesting, as I think their gap between being pretty good and very very good hinges on one Justin Fields (and the coach of course).  If Fields has a near great year, OSU should be in the 11-1 range.  And he is capable of that, or perhaps in the bright lights and pressure he runs into problems.

Interestingly, I have seen some "projections" (which I take with a grain) that have Jake Fromm doing number one in the draft.  Whatever, presume he'd be top ten, and thus very likely to come out.  Fields could have take a RS (playing four games) and retained three years at UGA, probably starting next year and then going to the draft if he did well.  Speculation, but it should be interesting in C-bus as well.  The conference has the most interesting story lines I think.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: bayareabadger on May 29, 2019, 11:42:23 PM
I like fun teams with quirky offenses and defenses. But I also like teams that have sort of hope.

So I usually enjoy navy, but less so last year. I’ll find any option team interesting for scheme reasons. Plus a lot of the really high-powered spreads (WSU, Syracuse). I want to see if UK keeps that offense going. Intrigued by post Cheney UGA. I’m also happy Florida is interesting on O again (I suppose that means I want to see what Miss State is post Fitzgerald).

Wisconsin is obviously my team, but I love the little tweaks Chryst has in the run game. Hopefully there’s a pass game to match.

Granted, I have a big heart for this. I can get interested in probably more than half the teams, especially if a team I’m interested in is doing something cool. I’m weirdly mesmerized by Wake Forest doing more with less. (I do think Duke is oddly boring to watch more often than not)
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: Cincydawg on May 30, 2019, 08:39:51 AM
Narrowing on on coaches is one approach, as noted above, both hot seat coaches and others who are doing well at lesser heralded programs.

Add to that new coaches and coaches with interesting approaches and you have a pretty good list.

(I doubt UGA post-Cheney changes the offense much because of that change, they may pass more because Fromm is a junior, they may not if they get well ahead in many of their games, which is one reason they have been run heavy.)
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: FearlessF on May 30, 2019, 12:48:42 PM
Laying on the beach doing nothing is my personal idea of hell.

I find things to do near the beach.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: Cincydawg on May 30, 2019, 01:06:28 PM
I don't mind walking on the beach when the weather is nice.  To go lie on the beach and subject myself to radiation emanating from a nuclear reactor is not my cup of tea.

The wife likes to lie in the sun by the pool.  I find the shade and read a book.  I tan a lot better than she does which makes her envious.

That bright thing in the sky is a massive emitter of RADIATION from NUCLEAR reactions.  So, NUCULAR RADIATION, folks, on the beach or by the pool, hitting your body, causing mutations and cellular damage and aging.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 30, 2019, 01:12:44 PM
I got too much last weekend, on the dock. Is the reflection from the water also radiation?
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: Cincydawg on May 30, 2019, 01:16:34 PM
I got too much last weekend, on the dock. Is the reflection from the water also radiation?
Indeed it is.  Radiation includes all visible light, radio waves, ultraviolet rays (which does the damage), gamma rays, X-rays, microwaves, whatever, as you well know.

The visible light band is a very small part of the entire spectrum.  We only see a tiny slice of what exists, for good reason.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: CatsbyAZ on May 30, 2019, 01:30:45 PM
Not quite the beach, but I’ll be lounging by the hotel pool this afternoon, not quite doing nothing; I have about 60 pages of proofreading to make time for, preferably not in front of the TV during Futurama re-runs.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: FearlessF on May 30, 2019, 01:40:54 PM
I get far too much sun on the golf course

I tan easily and never wear sunscreen

I don't sit or lay in the sun anywhere to try to tan

I have a golfer's tan, not because I'm trying.  It just happens
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 30, 2019, 01:52:50 PM
I need to start wearing a hat. I hate wearing hats.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: FearlessF on May 30, 2019, 02:35:00 PM
I wear caps on the course religiously, really should sunscreen my nose and face

not gonna do it
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: rolltidefan on May 30, 2019, 02:41:51 PM
I don't mind walking on the beach when the weather is nice.  To go lie on the beach and subject myself to radiation emanating from a nuclear reactor is not my cup of tea.

The wife likes to lie in the sun by the pool.  I find the shade and read a book.  I tan a lot better than she does which makes her envious.

That bright thing in the sky is a massive emitter of RADIATION from NUCLEAR reactions.  So, NUCULAR RADIATION, folks, on the beach or by the pool, hitting your body, causing mutations and cellular damage and aging.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/wL8dslmj94UNO/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: CWSooner on May 30, 2019, 06:08:41 PM
I need to start wearing a hat. I hate wearing hats.
Wear a stylish hat, like a straw fedora in the summer.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: MrNubbz on May 30, 2019, 06:19:24 PM
I have a golfer's tan, not because I'm trying.  It just happens
Fer shame on you if you were a real cornhusker you would have recognized it for what it is - a farmers tan
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 30, 2019, 06:55:42 PM
I find things to do near the beach.
That I can do. I loved the trip to the Cinque Terre, which of course is 5 little towns along the beach. I like being near the water. Heck, I like going in the water. 

Just can't stand the inactivity and when I feel that much sun on me without moving around I feel like I'm being baked alive. 
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 30, 2019, 06:59:37 PM
The wife likes to lie in the sun by the pool.  I find the shade and read a book.  I tan a lot better than she does which makes her envious.
That I can handle. I can get lost in a book for hours, so if I've got shade a cooler of beer, I'm good. 

I need to start wearing a hat. I hate wearing hats.
I wear caps on the course religiously, really should sunscreen my nose and face

not gonna do it
I hate hats and sunscreen as well...

I've found that when I go hiking, though, I need to do the sunscreen. I can't handle the hats because on a hike I'll sweat into the hat and take it off after ~30 seconds. But on anything longer than a few miles, the sunscreen has to come out or I'll get roasted. 
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: bayareabadger on May 30, 2019, 08:56:16 PM
Strongly pro hats. I have a wide, floppy fishing one, and if I could have one wide enough to shade my whole self, I would. 

Dislike sunscreen but wear it begrudgingly while running. 
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: CWSooner on May 31, 2019, 12:02:44 AM
I hate hats and sunscreen as well...

I've found that when I go hiking, though, I need to do the sunscreen. I can't handle the hats because on a hike I'll sweat into the hat and take it off after ~30 seconds. But on anything longer than a few miles, the sunscreen has to come out or I'll get roasted.
A hat will keep you cooler overall.  You don't see Bedouins going around without something covering their heads.  To be without a hat in the desert is to die.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: Cincydawg on May 31, 2019, 07:42:59 AM
The chemicals in sunscreens are interesting, chemically.  I find it interesting how some folks are so "anti-chemical" and yet use all sorts of them in their lives.

I saw something yesterday in the store advertised as containing "No Chemicals".  Hmmmm.

The step daughter buys all this organic stuff for her kids and then lets them chow down on all kinds of candies and sweets.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 31, 2019, 08:11:36 AM

Wow. I jumped right in on page two without reading page one, and there is not a single post that has anything whatsoever to do with the thread title. 
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 31, 2019, 08:23:56 AM
Put a hat on it!!
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: Cincydawg on May 31, 2019, 08:49:36 AM
Are there any intriguing story lines out west?  Boise State?  UDubb?  Wazzu?  Colorado?  Can they be awful for much longer?

How about the ACC?  Miami- new coach.  FSU - um.  Syracuse, can they continue?  UNC - Mack Brown.  Boston College?  NCSU?

Can Auburn find something somewhere and be better than 8-5?  Restless natives.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: CWSooner on May 31, 2019, 09:14:49 AM
Kansas State without Bill Snyder.

Last time they tried this, it didn't go well.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: Cincydawg on May 31, 2019, 09:16:11 AM
Good call, as noted previously, many of the interesting teams are such because of the coaching situation.

Does anyone have a handy list of P5 programs with first year coaches?

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/first-year-fbs-coaches-rankings-ryan-day-mack-brown-les-miles-geoff-collins/xer2c230arwj1cbmoj5rceild (https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/first-year-fbs-coaches-rankings-ryan-day-mack-brown-les-miles-geoff-collins/xer2c230arwj1cbmoj5rceild)


That google thing.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: Cincydawg on May 31, 2019, 09:18:53 AM
First-time Power 5 coaches
1. Ryan Day, Ohio State
Urban Meyer's retirement was followed by a quick announcement that Day, who finished 3-0 as acting coach this season, would take over in Columbus. Day is a brilliant offensive game-planner and one of the reasons why Dwayne Haskins was a Heisman Trophy finalist, but he also is a first-time coach in charge of a program that expects Big Ten championships every year (http://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/ohio-state-football-standards-ryan-day-2019-urban-meyer/mugdrkt8ng3gzcpomy31zrzc) . It's a big step.
2. Neal Brown, West Virginia
The track record at Troy speaks for itself. He had a 35-16 record at Troy, but that included 31 victories and three bowl wins the last three seasons. Brown's genuine approach will be a hit in Morgantown, and the wins will follow.
3. Geoff Collins, Georgia Tech
Fit is everything in college football, and Collins, 47, is a Georgia native who served as a GA with the Yellow Jackets from 1999 to 2001. He understands the expectations and will smooth over the transformation from an option offense. Collins had a 15-10 record at Temple the past two seasons.
4. Scott Satterfield, Louisville
Satterfield enjoyed high-level success in compiling a 51-24 record at Appalachian State, his alma mater, and that made him one of the most coveted candidates in this cycle. Louisville needs a rebuild, and Satterfield can take the lessons he learned in converting the Mountaineers to the FBS. It might take more time, but Satterfield will be worth it.
5. Chris Klieman, Kansas State
Some K-State fans nit-picked this hire, but Klieman's record at North Dakota State speaks for itself. He has the Bison in position to win a fourth national championship in the FCS. The Wildcats are finally ready to move on from legendary coach Bill Snyder. Klieman can make that transition. Let him do it.
6. Manny Diaz, Miami
Diaz took the Temple job briefly before returning to Miami in the aftermath of Mark Richt's retirement. Diaz brings a high energy that the defensive players rallied around, but he'll have to bring the same aggressive mentality to the offensive side of the ball.
7. Mel Tucker, Colorado
Tucker, 46, was an interim coach for the Jacksonville Jaguars in 2011. He's spent the past four seasons as a defensive coordinator under Nick Saban and Kirby Smart, and there is an opportunity to bring those lessons to a Pac-12 South program that can compete.
8. Matt Wells, Texas Tech
Wells, 45, put together a run at Utah State that included a 44-34 record and five bowl appearances. How will he shift the culture at Lubbock? We know Wells can coach offense. Will there be improvement on defense?
Back in the Power 5
1. Mack Brown, North Carolina
Brown, 67, wouldn't have come back if he didn't have something to prove, and the hire of Mississippi offensive coordinator Phil Longo is the first aggressive move. The Tar Heels can make a move in a division where the ACC Coastal Champion finished 7-6.
2. Les Miles, Kansas
Miles, 65, returns to the sideline and brings a 142-55 record to a program that hasn't won more than three games in a single season this decade. Miles compiled a 28-21 record at Oklahoma State from 2001 to 2004 before going to LSU. That kind of makeover would be welcome at Kansas.
3. Mike Locksley, Maryland
Locksley was 2-26 at New Mexico from 2009 to 2011 and was Maryland's interim coach for six games in 2016. The stint as Alabama's offensive coordinator rebooted the Washington, D.C., native's career. It's a tough job in the Big Ten East, but Locksley is a good fit for the Terrapins.

Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: CWSooner on May 31, 2019, 09:32:35 AM
The Les Miles and Mack Brown comebacks are interesting.

I am not high on Manny Diaz.  I believe that it was at UT that they called him "Iaz," as in "no-D."  I did not think that his actions in leaving Temple and taking some of his players with him were honorable.  Because of that, and because he is going to Miami, I will view it as karmic when he fails.

The Ryan Day experiment in Columbus should be interesting.  Urban Meyer is a tough act to follow.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: Cincydawg on May 31, 2019, 09:36:59 AM
A good friend of mine in Cincy is a Miami fan and was elated with Richt took over, couldn't understand why UGA fired him.  I told him IMHO Richt was only an "OK coach", not a great one at all.  He didn't believe me then, does now.  Miami could be in long term trouble.

The drastic change in offense at GaTech is somewhat interesting, but I suspect that is not going to go well either.  They cannot recruit at a level needed to run a standard offense, at all.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 31, 2019, 09:50:11 AM


The Ryan Day experiment in Columbus should be interesting.  Urban Meyer is a tough act to follow.
Pfffft, says who?  :33:
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: Cincydawg on May 31, 2019, 10:16:17 AM
Florida post-Urban did not seem to do as well.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: FearlessF on May 31, 2019, 10:16:34 AM
Fer shame on you if you were a real cornhusker you would have recognized it for what it is - a farmers tan
farmer's tan is MUCH different

farmers don't wear short britches

my calves look marvelous!
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: bayareabadger on May 31, 2019, 12:29:31 PM

I am not high on Manny Diaz.  I believe that it was at UT that they called him "Iaz," as in "no-D."  I did not think that his actions in leaving Temple and taking some of his players with him were honorable.  Because of that, and because he is going to Miami, I will view it as karmic when he fails.

It's interesting how coordinators get crystallized in our minds. Texas kind of had the same thing with Greg Davis, who built a bunch of effective offenses with Young and McCoy, and most people call him a dolt for his work in 2010 (the Iowa tenure didn't help).

His Miami defenses were 11th, 16th and 14th. He's got an interesting history, a lot of building decent defenses in not great places. In two years at Texas, he ha a 5th and a 43rd, and the defense he assembled but hardly coached was 23rd. 

Unsure if the dishonorable thing matters. Crappy people win all the time in this game. 
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: bayareabadger on May 31, 2019, 12:39:58 PM
A good friend of mine in Cincy is a Miami fan and was elated with Richt took over, couldn't understand why UGA fired him.  I told him IMHO Richt was only an "OK coach", not a great one at all.  He didn't believe me then, does now.  Miami could be in long term trouble.
Richt is sort of fascinating and a good reminder of how quickly things change in college football. 

A year ago he was a pretty solid success story. He got a second-year team with shoddy QB play to a No. 2 ranking, division title, Orange Bowl. Now he's gone, in part because he let love of family create some issues. It does speak to Miami's biggest issue. It'll always be playing against its history, without the backing of infrastructure. 

The other interesting part is how it shows Georgia is a consumer of careers. Richt had a better record than Kirby through four years, granted in a less tough SEC. He won at a better rate than Dooley and most everyone else that coached there. But such is the aura around what Georgia can be, even the highly successful are simply "OK" rather than pretty good. Granted, that is to a degree the nature of college football, a sort of warped feeling on how coaches stack up. 
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: FearlessF on May 31, 2019, 01:18:21 PM
The college football season is still some ways from now, but Vegas never sleeps, and the opening lines are out for the top games of the 2019 season. The Golden Nugget released its opening spreads for several of the season's premier games on Thursday.

https://sports.yahoo.com/golden-nugget-releases-opening-lines-232939712.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/golden-nugget-releases-opening-lines-232939712.html)

Iowa at Iowa State (Pick 'em)

Michigan State (-2.5) at Northwestern

Michigan (-5) at Wisconsin

Ohio State (-10) at Nebraska

Northwestern at Wisconsin (-7)

Iowa at Michigan (-12)

Michigan State at Ohio State (-15.5)

Northwestern at Nebraska (-6)

Penn State at Iowa (-2)

Michigan State at Wisconsin (-3)

Ohio State (-14) at Northwestern

Michigan (-4.5) at Penn State

Iowa (-3) at Northwestern

Penn State at Michigan State (-2)

Notre Dame at Michigan (-6)

Wisconsin at Ohio State (-13)

Iowa at Wisconsin (-2.5)

Michigan State at Michigan (-13.5)

Wisconsin (-1) at Nebraska

Penn State at Ohio State (-10.5)

Iowa at Nebraska (Pick 'em)

Ohio State at Michigan (-3.5)
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: Cincydawg on May 31, 2019, 01:41:09 PM
I watched Richt get out coached often, too often, when there was a large talent advantage.  Spurrier of course was the main nemesis, which I could understand to an extent.

Another thing is his teams had all sorts of off season issues much less often encountered today.  I think he thought he could change people, and on occasion he did, but often he could not.  Smart is somehow recruiting even better than Richt was, which is tough to do.

We'll see if Smart can do something with all that talent, he has a lot right now.
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: GopherRock on May 31, 2019, 04:52:16 PM

I saw something yesterday in the store advertised as containing "No Chemicals".  Hmmmm.
Ban dihydrogen monoxide!
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: bayareabadger on June 01, 2019, 06:15:33 PM
I watched Richt get out coached often, too often, when there was a large talent advantage.  Spurrier of course was the main nemesis, which I could understand to an extent.

Another thing is his teams had all sorts of off season issues much less often encountered today.  I think he thought he could change people, and on occasion he did, but often he could not.  Smart is somehow recruiting even better than Richt was, which is tough to do.

We'll see if Smart can do something with all that talent, he has a lot right now.
I'd assume if I watched a guy coach for that long, I'd remember the out-coachings more vividly. It's also a factor the major of losses a competent UGA coach will have feel like out coachings. 

I'm not saying he's the greatest, but just that he's pretty good, pretty successful. Probably not successful enough for UGA, but I wonder if that ever happens short of a title. (Also have to wonder if Kirby is keeping a better lid on things, but that might just be my mild distrust of the guy)
Title: Re: Interesting teams for 2019 you may watch
Post by: CatsbyAZ on June 04, 2019, 01:17:51 PM
I’m more interested in Michigan St than I am going into most seasons. The Spartans are poised to have a monster year on defense and with Lewerke (underrated, IMO) hopefully healthy along with the offense all back the roster is in place to go toe to toe with anyone in conference. 5-0 should be the case going into the mid season stretch Vs Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Penn State; And I imagine Spartans wins against them will look like how Arizona State and Michigan beat the Spartans last year in ugly games.

My big reservation is the coaching staff. When it comes to experience and NFL potential MSU has a Top 10 roster. But a Top 10 roster won’t overcome a coaching staff as stale as Dantonio & Staff have been these past 3 seasons.

Not to mention, I’m very much looking forward to another mean spirited edition of who gets the Paul Bunyan Trophy.
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Post by: ELA on June 04, 2019, 01:26:26 PM
Penn State +3 at MSU, and Wisconsin -2 against MSU in Madison seem like easy money
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Post by: ELA on June 04, 2019, 01:28:37 PM
I’m more interested in Michigan St than I am going into most seasons. The Spartans are poised to have a monster year on defense and with Lewerke (underrated, IMO) hopefully healthy along with the offense all back the roster is in place to go toe to toe with anyone in conference. 5-0 should be the case going into the mid season stretch Vs Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Penn State; And I imagine Spartans wins against them will look like how Arizona State and Michigan beat the Spartans last year in ugly games.

My big reservation is the coaching staff. When it comes to experience and NFL potential MSU has a Top 10 roster. But a Top 10 roster won’t overcome a coaching staff as stale as Dantonio & Staff have been these past 3 seasons.

Not to mention, I’m very much looking forward to another mean spirited edition of who gets the Paul Bunyan Trophy.
That's sort of how I feel.  Most talented MSU roster since at least 2014, and I just don't see the staff utilizing it right.  Granted a year where we go to Columbus and Ann Arbor, and have crossover ROAD games against Wisconsin and Northwestern, this isn't exactly a year where talent aligns with schedule, which is typically important for MSU.  Last year was their year to make a statement, and injuries and coaching derailed the whole thing badly.
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Post by: FearlessF on June 04, 2019, 03:47:10 PM
Penn State +3 at MSU, and Wisconsin -2 against MSU in Madison seem like easy money
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Post by: Cincydawg on June 05, 2019, 06:47:33 AM
I always considered Dantonio to be one of the better coaches going.
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Post by: ELA on June 05, 2019, 09:23:55 AM
I always considered Dantonio to be one of the better coaches going.
He was a very good program CEO, which is important.  But his loyalty to bad assistants is crippling the program.  I don't blame him for the weird offensive playcalling, but I do for not doing anything about it.
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Post by: Cincydawg on June 05, 2019, 09:36:51 AM
Interesting observation.  I have not paid much attention in 3-4 years frankly.
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Post by: Mdot21 on June 05, 2019, 09:40:51 AM
He was a very good program CEO, which is important.  But his loyalty to bad assistants is crippling the program.  I don't blame him for the weird offensive playcalling, but I do for not doing anything about it.
He’s a great defensive coach and while he doesn’t recruit highly ranked classes every year he’s got a great eye for talent and developing said talent. Especially on defense. His hit rate on recruits is better than most.

If he was at a helmet that recruited itself to a degree like all helmets do- and if he was willing to hand over the offensive keys entirely to an innovative OC he’d be a monster. 
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Post by: ELA on June 05, 2019, 09:42:37 AM
Yeah, I'm not saying he needs to be fired or anything, it just sort of feels like a Frank Beamer trajectory.  Higher highs than the program had in a very, very long time, followed by a period of contentment.  Like Beamer, I don't think he'll ever fade so much to warrant firing, but he'll just kind of be content to be a 7-5ish type team, and keep his buddies employed.

I do wonder how attractive the job is to whoever is next in say 2021 versus 2015.
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Post by: Mdot21 on June 05, 2019, 09:44:33 AM
I watched Richt get out coached often, too often, when there was a large talent advantage.  Spurrier of course was the main nemesis, which I could understand to an extent.

Another thing is his teams had all sorts of off season issues much less often encountered today.  I think he thought he could change people, and on occasion he did, but often he could not.  Smart is somehow recruiting even better than Richt was, which is tough to do.

We'll see if Smart can do something with all that talent, he has a lot right now.
Richt = Lloyd Carr 

Heckuva coach. Always so close but no cigar. Carr lucked into ‘97 that was in large part supercharged by maybe the greatest DB ever in Woodson- but apart from that they are like the same guy. Not truly elite coaches like Meyer or Saban or Spurrier or Bowden- but on that next level below those guys.
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Post by: Mdot21 on June 05, 2019, 09:47:54 AM
Yeah, I'm not saying he needs to be fired or anything, it just sort of feels like a Frank Beamer trajectory.  Higher highs than the program had in a very, very long time, followed by a period of contentment.  Like Beamer, I don't think he'll ever fade so much to warrant firing, but he'll just kind of be content to be a 7-5ish type team, and keep his buddies employed.

I do wonder how attractive the job is to whoever is next in say 2021 versus 2015.
He’s the best thing that’s happened to MSU in ages. Really impressive what he was able to do to there. Brought them back from the dead really. 

Beamer is a great comparison actually. Never thought of that one, but it fits.

I think the job would be in demand for sure. He’s made it a legit big time program and he’s shown what can be done there. 
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Post by: CatsbyAZ on June 06, 2019, 12:03:08 PM
How about the Packers?

Aaron looks in good spirits this offseason. A relaxed, “jolly Rodgers” bodes well for the Packers going into the season. However the pressure is all on Aaron because the two primary excuses his fanboys have his behind when it comes to Aaron’s past two years of underwhelming play have been addressed: 1) McCarthy & GM Ted Thompson are gone after Aaron spent several offseasons lobbing low-key criticism at both, and 2) the defense is completely revamped and filled out.

Aaron has no excuses now.

I think the Packers are getting past their recent problems save Aaron’s thin skin.
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Post by: FearlessF on June 07, 2019, 12:00:34 PM
Jolly Boy needs an O-line, receivers and a running game

hopefully, (as a Vikings fan) he gets nothing
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Post by: CatsbyAZ on June 08, 2019, 04:19:46 PM
How about the Memphis Tigers? With their hardest OOC opponent being Ole Miss and missing UCF in conference play, they have the schedule to make a big run and sustain a season long Top 25 ranking. Brady White returns as QB, likely will post big numbers, but the question comes down to another year of iffy defense that under Coach Norvell is consistently unable to close out leads. And for Norvell, at 26-14 during his first three seasons, he’s performed well and for some reason isn’t receiving the expected attention for the season’s end of bigger job openings.
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Post by: Cincydawg on June 09, 2019, 06:11:36 AM
Memphis is an excellent catch.  I'm wondering also about Cincinnati.  They had a nice year last year, quietly, with Fickell.  DO they continue?  If so, does he going coaches on the retro-hot seat?
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on June 09, 2019, 06:53:15 AM
He was a very good program CEO, which is important.  But his loyalty to bad assistants is crippling the program.  I don't blame him for the weird offensive playcalling, but I do for not doing anything about it.
He's been on the Tressel friends and family plan with regards to his ACs consistently since his stint at Cincinnati, no?
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Post by: ALA2262 on June 09, 2019, 04:49:15 PM
Penn State +3 at MSU, and Wisconsin -2 against MSU in Madison seem like easy money
Underdog Lock of the Week in Week One is Boise State +4.5 vs Florida State. Boise State wins SU in Jacksonville.