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Title: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: MaximumSam on October 05, 2017, 09:56:37 AM
Possibly an interesting game, as Maryland showed some spark against Minnesota after getting drubbed and losing their quarterback against UCF.  The biggest issue of concern for OSU is the linebackers.  Mary;and's offense is very similar to OSU's, and is designed to get you spread out and keep defenders out of the box.  Then they hand the ball off to Ty Johnson, who is very fast and can make big plays.  Buttoning down him is a big deal - he's had around 130 yards in each of their wins and 25 against UCF.  So OSU being sound and the linebackers staying in position to make tackles is of key importance.

Defensively, Maryland hasn't been anything great.  They did a good job holding down Minnesota's run game, but overall have been vulnerable.  OSU will continue to try and move the offense towards the old Oregon offense.  Screens, deep balls, crossing routes - they are trying to get linebackers and safeties out of the way so they can make big plays running and throwing.  A refreshing contrast to last season.
Title: Re: Maryland (1-0, 3-1) at #10 Ohio State (2-0, 4-1) Game Week
Post by: ELA on October 05, 2017, 11:46:33 AM
I know Maryland is down to their third quarterback, but they looked pretty good with him starting last week.  I know Ohio State has looked better the last couple weeks, but they haven't played a team with a pulse since Oklahoma.  The Buckeyes have the talent to pull out a curb stomping at almost any point, but I truly fail to see how all of this adds up to Ohio State being 30.5 point favorites.  Maryland's offense relies on the splash plays, particularly in the running game.  Central Florida prevented Ty Johnson from getting loose, and the Terps got zero production.  Last week Maryland had five different players tally a play of over 20 yards, and had one such play on every single one of their four touchdown drives.  Ohio State certainly has issues in the back seven, but nobody will ever accuse any Ohio State team of a lack of athleticism, particularly compared to Maryland.  So the question is whether Maryland can hit those plays, even when they show themselves.  Rather than helping provide clarity as to the Ohio State running back situation, last week just added more of a mess, as Demario McCall, who had no carried on the year, had 11 carries and one reception, for 138 total yards, just adding to a full stable of backs.  Mix all of those backs in with Barrett's legs, and despite their struggles to hit on the deep ball, Ohio State will eventually overwhelm Maryland with depth.  This is a solid run defense in Maryland, totally shutting down the Gophers last week, and Texas didn't get to the century mark on the ground either.  However, for now, it seems like the mobile quarterbacks, and the read option looks are not their forte.  McKenzie Milton, Central Florida's quarterback, ran for 94 yards on them, and nine total ball carriers combined for 250 rushing yards on 6.4 ypc in the Knights' blowout win.  In fairness, they picked up 99 of those yards on two plays, but the jury is still very out on how Maryland's defense will fare against the type of running game Ohio State brings.  But 30.5?  I don't see that at all.
OHIO STATE 38, MARYLAND 23
Title: Re: Maryland (1-0, 3-1) at #10 Ohio State (2-0, 4-1) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 05, 2017, 12:03:03 PM
OSU is 3-0 vs Maryland. 
Title: Re: Maryland (1-0, 3-1) at #10 Ohio State (2-0, 4-1) Game Week
Post by: TyphonInc on October 05, 2017, 05:20:17 PM
Go Bucks! Beat the turtles.

Hoping for nice weather, I plan on being on Campus all day.
Title: Re: Maryland (1-0, 3-1) at #10 Ohio State (2-0, 4-1) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on October 05, 2017, 05:41:23 PM
I think OSU dots the i and beat a drum on the Terps, a team I also like.

OSU 45  

UMd  13

Title: Re: Maryland (1-0, 3-1) at #10 Ohio State (2-0, 4-1) Game Week
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 05, 2017, 06:51:34 PM
OSU is 3-0 vs Maryland.
So was Texas. 
Title: Re: Maryland (1-0, 3-1) at #10 Ohio State (2-0, 4-1) Game Week
Post by: MaximumSam on October 05, 2017, 07:53:51 PM
I wouldn't be surprised by a blowout - Maryland with an inexperienced QB against a ferocious defensive line can be a recipe for spectacular failure.  If Maryland can't run the ball consistently they could get boat raced.  But they might be able to run the ball, in which case this could be a game.
Title: Re: Maryland (1-0, 3-1) at #10 Ohio State (2-0, 4-1) Game Week
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 06, 2017, 07:09:24 AM
Maryland has been a good run defense.
They have a RB that is out of this world- he can break one off on any carry. Also, the QB may not be super mobile, but he has good accuracy.

I see a tight game well into the second half.   
Title: Re: Maryland (1-0, 3-1) at #10 Ohio State (2-0, 4-1) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 06, 2017, 09:25:06 AM
Unlike Michigan, OSU has lost to neither Maryland nor Rutgers. 
Title: Re: Maryland (1-0, 3-1) at #10 Ohio State (2-0, 4-1) Game Week
Post by: MaximumSam on October 06, 2017, 09:33:38 AM
Also should mention DJ Moore leading the B1G in lots of receiving categories.  Should be a much better test for the secondary than the past few games.  Seems likely that Maryland will hit some big plays, but if OSU can keep them to 20-30 yards instead of 50 yard touchdowns, would make a big difference.
Title: Re: Maryland (1-0, 3-1) at #10 Ohio State (2-0, 4-1) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 06, 2017, 09:44:20 AM
I feel like this could be a close game with OSU pulling away late.
Title: Re: Maryland (1-0, 3-1) at #10 Ohio State (2-0, 4-1) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 07, 2017, 09:37:13 AM
OSU 38
Maryland 30
Title: Re: Maryland (1-0, 3-1) at #10 Ohio State (2-0, 4-1) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on October 08, 2017, 10:17:45 AM
Ohio St loses RG Brandon Bowen to a broken leg.....crap
Title: Re: Maryland (1-0, 3-1) at #10 Ohio State (2-0, 4-1) Game Week
Post by: MaximumSam on October 08, 2017, 10:23:03 AM
Ohio St loses RG Brandon Bowen to a broken leg.....crap
Could be a big blow.  Urbs always badmouthing his OL depth.  
Title: Re: Maryland (1-0, 3-1) at #10 Ohio State (2-0, 4-1) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on October 08, 2017, 10:44:26 AM
I feel like this could be a close game with OSU pulling away late.
Or not.
Title: Re: Maryland (1-0, 3-1) at #10 Ohio State (2-0, 4-1) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 08, 2017, 12:28:29 PM
Thanks Sherlock.  :smiley_confused1:
Title: Re: Maryland (1-0, 3-1) at #10 Ohio State (2-0, 4-1) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 08, 2017, 12:29:25 PM
OSU 38
Maryland 30
Oops.

I had a couple of those yesterday. I thought NU would hang and even beat Penn State.

Oops.
Title: Re: Maryland (1-0, 3-1) at #10 Ohio State (2-0, 4-1) Game Week
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 08, 2017, 03:36:13 PM
I learned....

You're not allowed to hit WR's anymore.

Holding is absolutely allowed and paramount for Ohio State.

It takes a screaming coach to get a review on a QB going down to the field and getting smashed head on, but for Maryland, it's an automatic flag.

CB is most definitely the hardest position in the game, especially when the QB throws short, 11 ft too high, and 10 yards too wide....you are guaranteed an abnormally high amount of pass interference calls.

If there is any light....

If Haskins wins the job next year, he has to come to Maryland, where EVERYONE hates him. Even many of his classmates. Hopefully that will screw with his head a bit.

Oh, and Urby will always score as much as he can to send a message to our local kids. 

Go win a natty.
Title: Re: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: ELA on October 08, 2017, 04:23:53 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 08, 2017, 04:45:15 PM
Lol
Yeah. I know it's hard for you to believe.

They didn't even throw a flag for the hit to our QB. Yet, after reviewing, the DB was ejected.

There was a screen from the endzone where Carter had a clear shot at a tackle, and was grabbed from behind and thrown to the ground.

The PI's are just ridiculous vs Ohio State.  We had a pick on the first play last year where the WR was falling down, and we jumped over top for the INT, and was called for PI.

Is what it is, but there's no denying it. Just blind loyalties.

I didn't even mention the numerous false starts....wow! 
Title: Re: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: ELA on October 08, 2017, 05:05:34 PM
Zebras hate turtles.  Animal kingdom rivalry as old as time
Title: Re: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 08, 2017, 05:18:57 PM
Dern good thing, too.

Otherwise, there'd no doubt be a lot more of these things runnin' around. 


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Title: Re: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 08, 2017, 08:40:06 PM
Zebras hate turtles.  Animal kingdom rivalry as old as time
Same guy who will tell you that coach K gets the benefit of the doubt, says refs are fair.

Did you hear about the touchdown signaled, even though Haskins was clearly tackled at the 3 yard line? 
Title: Re: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: Kris61 on October 08, 2017, 09:00:32 PM
I learned....

You're not allowed to hit WR's anymore.

Holding is absolutely allowed and paramount for Ohio State.

It takes a screaming coach to get a review on a QB going down to the field and getting smashed head on, but for Maryland, it's an automatic flag.

CB is most definitely the hardest position in the game, especially when the QB throws short, 11 ft too high, and 10 yards too wide....you are guaranteed an abnormally high amount of pass interference calls.

If there is any light....

If Haskins wins the job next year, he has to come to Maryland, where EVERYONE hates him. Even many of his classmates. Hopefully that will screw with his head a bit.

Oh, and Urby will always score as much as he can to send a message to our local kids.

Go win a natty.
Honestly, what has happened to you?  I seem to remember years ago you being a good poster on the ACC board. I thought we had some good discussions.  Every post I read from you is just like this one. Sour grapes. Refs. Disrespect. No class.  
You seem determined that no one should feel good about beating your team.  Either the other team is a bunch of classless jerks who got help from the refs or you say Maryland is such a train wreck that nothing can be taken from the win.  What gives?
Title: Re: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 08, 2017, 09:15:57 PM
I've always chalked it up as the CFB version of being a Cleveland Browns fan. 
Title: Re: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 08, 2017, 10:47:51 PM
I've always chalked it up as the CFB version of being a Cleveland Browns fan.
See..you get me!
There is truth to my rants though.
I did say, it is what it is.
We're not there yet. Hell, maybe we never really get there, since I'm sure Durkin must be thinking we're a cursed program.
But, I stand by what I said, and even the part where OSU was screwed with the targeting call.

And let's not forget Kris, we had Ralph, and with him, we felt like we could beat a Top 25 team at any moment. 

He played football the right way. 
Title: Re: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: TyphonInc on October 08, 2017, 11:27:58 PM
Same guy who will tell you that coach K gets the benefit of the doubt, says refs are fair.

Did you hear about the touchdown signaled, even though Haskins was clearly tackled at the 3 yard line?
You mean the RPO play where the entire MD D ('cept 1), the fans, and Refs thought Dobbins has the ball for a TD? That play? Yah that is some funny bad reffing there.
Title: Re: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: PSUinNC on October 09, 2017, 09:33:42 AM
As much as I also think OSU gets the benefit of the doubt in B1G refereeing:

1.  They've earned it, it's just simply how it goes.  I think many B1G fans of other teams have examples where those have gone both ways, tho.  
2.  I've never seen a game where the refereeing would be the swing in a 50 point loss.

Maryland's in a tough spot.  Every team that can flat out blast them is going to for recruiting purposes of the DMV, particularly OSU and PSU.  If Franklin can do the same thing in November, best believe he will.  

Title: Re: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: ELA on October 09, 2017, 10:15:31 AM
You mean the RPO play where the entire MD D ('cept 1), the fans, and Refs thought Dobbins has the ball for a TD? That play? Yah that is some funny bad reffing there.
It's bad enough refs still can't figure out how to call illegal men downfield on those RPOs, if they are going to start calling phantom TDs on them...forget about it.
Title: Re: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 09, 2017, 10:19:29 AM
Ohio St loses RG Brandon Bowen to a broken leg.....crap
That sucks. 
It's actually pretty amazing though that Urbs still has that ole Draper High pipeline open, from his Utah days. 
Title: Re: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: ELA on October 09, 2017, 10:28:51 AM
Same guy who will tell you that coach K gets the benefit of the doubt, says refs are fair.

Did you hear about the touchdown signaled, even though Haskins was clearly tackled at the 3 yard line?
I never said refs are fair
Title: Re: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: TresselownsUM on October 10, 2017, 12:31:46 PM
the targeting in the 1st half on webb was horrendous, not only should it not have been targeting, I think it was a fumble and scoop and score for a TD had they not called that.

I'm not sure if mctwerp is arguing holding on the DBs or if we're talking about lineman. but I assume all DBs can basically hold the first 5-10 yards, and all O lineman hold every play. if you're not doing that then you're probably not being coached properly. just don't tackle anyone and don't do it in big spots of the game.

this is a tough spot for the turtles, they were clearly outmatched in this one, but i'll be honest, the wins at Texas and at Minnesota both surprised me, I think Maryland has a chance at a decent season. when your down to qb 3  or 4, I think they've down quite well.

the one thing I do question, and this was brought up by dinardo etc on BTN, they think Maryland is more finesse type team and less power. so they basically said before the season expect them to struggle against OSU, PSU and UM on offense.
Title: Re: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: MaximumSam on October 10, 2017, 03:13:13 PM
Per Urbs the Big Ten apologized for the targeting call on Denzel Ward
Title: Re: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 10, 2017, 03:56:33 PM
Per Urbs the Big Ten apologized for the targeting call on Denzel Ward
The same refs that were conspiring to give OSU the win over Maryland? 
Title: Re: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 10, 2017, 06:29:52 PM
The same refs that were conspiring to give OSU the win over Maryland?
He had to submit a complaint. Obviously their margin of victory wasn't good enough, and he had no worry of missing any time vs Nebraska. 

Guys a douche. 
Title: Re: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: MaximumSam on October 10, 2017, 07:01:01 PM
He had to submit a complaint. Obviously their margin of victory wasn't good enough, and he had no worry of missing any time vs Nebraska.

Guys a douche.
Whatever helps you sleep at night bro
Title: Re: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 10, 2017, 08:59:02 PM
Pretty sure the 2007 Illibuck game put to rest any notion that OSU has the refs on their side.

Dude fumbled before crossing the goal line, dag nabbit. 
Title: Re: Maryland (1-1, 3-2) at #10 Ohio State (3-0, 5-1) Post Game
Post by: TyphonInc on October 10, 2017, 11:28:27 PM
He had to submit a complaint. Obviously their margin of victory wasn't good enough, and he had no worry of missing any time vs Nebraska.

Guys a douche.
You mad bro?