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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: MarqHusker on October 04, 2017, 11:58:49 PM
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Well this place has bottomed out. ~??? Takes til Wed for us to fire up the Big Red thread.
I'll admit I've been out of focus this week and part of last week.
What do I see with Nebraska? An inexperienced OL, though played well last Friday. no Tre, an injured Wilbon too? Izigbo is cromulent. T Lee isn't mobile. I can't see much happening running the ball this weekend.
Did I say T Lee isn't mobile? OL needs to play very well, Lee needs to release the ball quickly and at N WRs not LBs and DBs. D has to make plays and get off the field. Keep the UW TE out of the mix. I'd like the under in this game.
speaking of spreads. N is +12 or +13. I suspect largest home dog since OU in the '74 game. I know they were +10 vs USC during the Billy C era, +10 to Mizzou same era and maybe +8 or +9 vs OU in '86.
I'll admit, I've only seen UW highlights, haven't watched a live series. Unfortunately I'll miss this one too, damn wife's social calendar. Good event though.
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UNL has fattened up its record by feasting on Illinois and Rutgers, and leads the B1G West alone right now because of it. This is not Illinois or Rutgers coming to town Saturday, but UW is also not Alabama or Clemson either.
UW has its flaws but it is also capable in overcoming them so long as the kids execute the coaches game plan properly. The offense has started slow in 3 of the first 4 games only to turn it on in the 2nd and blow teams away.
I don't have a good feeling about this game, to be very honest. Slow starts in places like Lincoln, where the fans are loud and proud, do not lend itself to 2nd half comebacks. The Huskers are confident with their latest wins and they are looking for revenge against Big Red.
I still think UW wins, but I think it's going to be something like 20-10 or so.
Then UW can fall in the rankings because it didn't win big...
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Latest line is Wisconsin -11.5. Still it's hard to count out the Huskers given a night game in Lincoln and Wisconsin looking less than perfect against the Wildcats.
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My favorite nerd stats have UW as a 75 percent favorite, in the 11 point range. The biggest key is going to be if Neb can protect Lee.
If not, Jimmy L is coming.
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My favorite nerd stats have UW as a 75 percent favorite, in the 11 point range. The biggest key is going to be if Neb can protect Lee.
If not, Jimmy L is coming.
That they were able to sack Thorson 8 times was something else. That kid can move. I don't think Lee is nearly as mobile as him.
If they can get constant pressure on TL, the safeties are gonna have a good day.
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That they were able to sack Thorson 8 times was something else. That kid can move. I don't think Lee is nearly as mobile as him.
If they can get constant pressure on TL, the safeties are gonna have a good day.
As I posted on the SOC, either the OL was straight garbage, or Thorson couldn't recognize a blitzer to save his life. Those weren't coverage sacks. Those weren't "beat your man" sacks. Those were guy running free sacks. I have a hard time believing Thorson is that bad at that as a third year starter. Maybe Leonard is that good. But I can't recall seeing that many free blitzers too often in my life. Even the crazy sack games that come to mind, like MSU having 7 in a half against Michigan in 2013, were due to bad OL play. Not almost exclusively a lack of identifying the blitzer.
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As I posted on the SOC, either the OL was straight garbage, or Thorson couldn't recognize a blitzer to save his life. Those weren't coverage sacks. Those weren't "beat your man" sacks. Those were guy running free sacks. I have a hard time believing Thorson is that bad at that as a third year starter. Maybe Leonard is that good. But I can't recall seeing that many free blitzers too often in my life. Even the crazy sack games that come to mind, like MSU having 7 in a half against Michigan in 2013, were due to bad OL play. Not almost exclusively a lack of identifying the blitzer.
The Wisconsin kids were saying this week that they were winning up front, or beating their man. Of the 8 sacks, 4 of them were when they rushed 4. 3 were when they rushed 5 and 1 was when they brought 6.
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I was a little off on my numbers. From the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel:
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Thorson was sacked twice on first down, twice on second down and four times on third down.
UW rushed just four men on six of the sacks, five men on one sack and six on one sack.
“It was really just a four-man rush and those guys were just winning,” said inside linebacker Chris Orr, who recorded the sack with six rushers. “I think we have some exotic pressures in our hip pocket. And we haven’t shown any of the new stuff we have. Guys are just winning. They were just flat-out winning.”
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If they were winning, they were winning clean. I didn't really see a whole lot of guys even having a body put on them.
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They were clean for sure. This is an extremely quick and fast team.
The big and slow thing is cute and all for the mediots to talk about, but they are not that. Far from it.
They are also very football smart. These guys all love the film room.
I can only imagine what this D would look like with Cichy causing havoc.
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Wisconsin leads the all time series 7-4
Wisconsin won the first game in 1901
Nebraska won in 65 and 66.
Each team won their home game in 73 and 74
Each team won their home game in 2011 and 12, although Wisconsin beat Nebraska in the 2012 Big Ten Ccg.
Wisconsin won in 2014, 15 and 16.
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the end is near..
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GO BIG RED!
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GO BIG RED!
Thanks! UW will take all the fans it can get!
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Wisconsin has made a habit of getting off to sluggish starts, and then really turning it on. In a hostile atmosphere like Lincoln at night, that might not work out as well. Granted, considering Northern Illinois already came into this building and won, maybe it's living more of reputation than actuality this year. The Huskers have won two in a row, albeit against easily the two worst Big Ten teams, and probably two of the five worst Power 5 teams (along with Kansas, Oregon State and Missouri). But there's no way Nebraska was as bad as they looked prior to that, so as unimpressive as those two wins are, and its all uphill from here, maybe a little confidence goes a long way. Last week it wasn't just a win over Illinois, it was a dominating win. The Blackshirts were smothering on defense, and Tanner Lee looked like the guy that Nebraska fans were hopeful they were getting. Not the guy coming off 9 interceptions over the previous three games. Whole different animal now. Bucky's front seven looked just plain nasty last week, unblockable, as we've discussed plenty on here. Northwestern is now giving up the most sacks per game in the Big Ten...because they gave up over half of their season average last week. The offense can't continue to put the defense in tough spots though, the sloppy play and poor ball control out of the gates, which has haunted Wisconsin a couple times, needs to end. That goes for Nebraska as well. The offense is going to be effective, but can it be efficient? Wisconsin leads the conference with 7 interceptions forced. Nebraska is last in the conference with 9 interceptions thrown. Uh oh. But what Nebraska can, and must do, is keep the Badgers behind the sticks. Wisconsin is 2nd in the Big Ten in rushing, but Nebraska is 4th in run defense, and nobody besides Oregon has been able to run on them. Alex Hornibrook is 2nd in completion percentage at 67%, but mostly because he hasn't had to throw a ton, and when he does it's short, or well timed play action. The Badgers have the best 3rd down offense in the Big Ten, but how many of those are obvious passing downs?
WISCONSIN 33, NEBRASKA 21
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As I posted on the SOC, either the OL was straight garbage, or Thorson couldn't recognize a blitzer to save his life. Those weren't coverage sacks. Those weren't "beat your man" sacks. Those were guy running free sacks. I have a hard time believing Thorson is that bad at that as a third year starter. Maybe Leonard is that good. But I can't recall seeing that many free blitzers too often in my life. Even the crazy sack games that come to mind, like MSU having 7 in a half against Michigan in 2013, were due to bad OL play. Not almost exclusively a lack of identifying the blitzer.
Free runners have become a pretty common sight for UW the past few years, with scheme playing a central part (at least as I understand it).
Aranda did some peculiar things. Most of the time when you run a stunt or twist, two guys switch gaps next to each other. UW was looping players across 2-plus gaps. It's a hard system to run because if you do it wrong, there's HUGE holes to run through, but he did. Wilcox was a little scaled back, but the versatile personnel allowed for some good overload blitzes.
I've not been able to sit and meditate on what UW is doing now. I assume it's closer to Aranda?
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Free runners have become a pretty common sight for UW the past few years, with scheme playing a central part (at least as I understand it).
Aranda did some peculiar things. Most of the time when you run a stunt or twist, two guys switch gaps next to each other. UW was looping players across 2-plus gaps. It's a hard system to run because if you do it wrong, there's HUGE holes to run through, but he did. Wilcox was a little scaled back, but the versatile personnel allowed for some good overload blitzes.
I've not been able to sit and meditate on what UW is doing now. I assume it's closer to Aranda?
Yes and no. Guys are staying home more than before, but JL (very smart guy) is using more disguised blitzes. The 3-4 is really not that. They've played a lot of 2-4-5 and even 2-3-6 this year. He's bringing safties and corners out of those formations. It's a beautiful thing to watch unfold. The QB never knows where it's coming from, because it could be any one (or three) of 11 on the field at any time.
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Fumagali is still questionable for the game tomorrow. The UW offense is much more fluid when he is in the game. They need him tomorrow.
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I agree with this. I don't know their TE depth, but he has helped keep UW O on the field many drives during his career.
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Huskers getting healthy - don't know how much it will help - rusty from being inactive in games and practice
corner Chris Jones is back, safety Joshua Kalu is back, LB Marcus Newby, Right tackle David Knevel, who hasn’t played since the season opener on Sep. 2, is also expected to return after suffering an ankle sprain and stress fracture in his foot. Riley said Knevel is still not 100 percent and true freshman Brenden Jaimes will make his third-straight start, but Knevel will be available to play.
Running back Mikale Wilbon suffered a sprained ankle in the Illinois game and did not practice Thursday, but Riley said he expects Wilbon to be available either in a rotation role or as an emergency option.
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I will be in Lincoln tomorrow rooting for an upset......... not expecting one
If I can get a ticket for a reasonable price I'll attend the game - if lightning strikes and the Badgers go down, I'd like to be there.
will be visiting the daughter at Old Chicago before the game and probably tailgating some as well.
will try to bump into Rabid Rattlesnake Boy while in town
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I'm sure you'll have a good time no matter what happens on the field. Best part is seeing your daughter.
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will try to bump into Rabid Rattlesnake Boy while in town
Huh?Is this some guy who always gets the ball out of the woods for you?
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Huh?I this some guy who always gets the ball out of the woods for you?
I thought that was Ballhawker Bob? Yeah, who is the snake fella?
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Wisconsin 31
Nebraska 20
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I watched to about 3.25 quarters, and thought Nebraska outplayed Wisconsin, and had just tied Wisconsin. What happened next, and why?
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After the pick-6 that gave UNL a score, Wisconsin stopped passing is what happened.
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Y'all were close on the predicted scores.
466-381 on yardages, 2-1 on turnovers favoring UW.
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I've seen the drive charts and the box score. Doesn't appear that Nebraska knew how to finish a drive. There's that pick six thing again. Going to be another long week for Riley and co.
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UNL's defensive front was gassed in the second half, and the UW OL imposed its will. That was the key to the game in my opinion.
UW does that to a lot of teams so there's that.
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I'm sure you'll have a good time no matter what happens on the field. Best part is seeing your daughter.
that post was spot on
actually the tailgate before the game was as good as usual
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After the pick-6 that gave UNL a score, Wisconsin stopped passing is what happened.
Ed Zachery
unfortunately, Diaco didn't adjust. or didn't adjust to something that could stop the run
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Huh?Is this some guy who always gets the ball out of the woods for you?
Rabid was one of the card carrying "Husker Prick Squad" back in the late 90's on CNN/SI message board
Rattlesnake Boys was one of the nicknames of the UNL football team in the late 1800's
Rabid, his brother, and Father made the trip to South Bend with me back in 2000
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Taylor is a great looking RB. GEESH
You guys know I favor Ty Johnson, and I do so because of vision, following blocks, patience, and speed, but Taylor is a monster as a freshman.
I have to drop my boy down to 3rd best RB in the league.
Taylor making a case for #1.