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The Power Five => Big XII => Topic started by: longhorn320 on October 02, 2017, 03:13:59 PM
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The line favors the Horns by 5
I think this game will either make or break the Horn's season
Its a must win
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I bet we see Sam taking snaps this time.
Maybe we start Shane just to give him the chance. But we've gotta start moving north-south on offense.
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Unless injured I expect Buechele to start
Sam needs to stay ready
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https://247sports.com/college/texas/Bolt/Texas-Longhorns-QB-Shane-Buechele-Sporting-Walking-Boot-for-Spra-108335182 (https://247sports.com/college/texas/Bolt/Texas-Longhorns-QB-Shane-Buechele-Sporting-Walking-Boot-for-Spra-108335182)
The kid is simply not durable enough for this game. New injury each game he plays.
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If Buechele isnt mobile then its best to play Sam
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I guess we'll see how bad the injury really is, because I think the coaches would prefer to start Shane if healthy enough.
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For a while there I thought Herman was just being diplomatic while silently preferring Ehlinger.
I'm not sure at this point.
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Herman mentioned that he only has 2 scholarship QBs. For that reason, he can't afford to goof around and use a "package" just for one. If that package gets that QB hurt, then there's a huge problem. He's using one or the other, and switching only if he has to.
There really is no short cut. The OL has to win some battles. A smart defense will make running on 1st down hard, then drop 8 into coverage on the 2nd and 3rd downs - sometimes pressuring the QB for variety. Until Texas can win the running game on 1st down, they're going to be handing the defense the advantage.
Sam has the decided higher upside, but he's also a true freshman. He turns the ball over. Right now, all our defense needs is a chance, and 14 points might win a game. Ball security is at a premium.
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Based on what Mr T says, and after thinking it through - the QB decision is more a triviality and a distraction than anything else. But we fans love to hang it all on the QB.
But more that worrying about QB, we've got to win some first downs, as Tulip says. Whatever we can patch together for an OL, and possibly getting Carter out on the field could likely mean more than who's at QB.
I've seen plenty of Porter, last year and this year. The guy goes down as soon as he is grazed. And while Warren can make a putrid defense look putrid, he doesn't do much against serviceable defenses.
I think I'll worry more about getting Carter some reps rather than worrying about Shane vs. Sam. And whether or not we can open up some holes.
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It will be interesting to see how OU does against the clones this week
They play in Norman unfortunately
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When I predicted we would win 7, I was counting on Maryland.
However, I will stand by it. That means we will have to beat Baylor, Kansas, K-State, Tech, and one of the following: OU, Ok State, TCU, West Virginia
Can we do it? Yes.
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Tech is looking better each week
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I believe, right now, that the backs are being utilized in the order of which they pass block. Chris Warren is clearly the most violent of our backs, and Carter is the shiftiest. Porter sees the field because he knows how to pick up a blitzer.
I further believe that Shane is double, triple, and quadruple-checking the coverages before utilizing his check down. With as porous as our OL has been, I'd love to see Warren run a center screen or two. It would, though, involve Shane throwing into a pile of bodies (almost all of them should be his teammates, but that's the risk).
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With the exception of one game K St has relied on its rushing game
The Horns held Iowa St to 10 yards rushing
This should be a good old fashioned brawl
As DKR said angry men win football games
I just hope our guys a angrier
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With the exception of one game K St has relied on its rushing game
The Horns held Iowa St to 10 yards rushing
This is what I have been thinking. If all they can do is run, then we should have their number.
Except Snyder is an old wizard who knows how to get more with less, and he knows how to game plan. This part worries me.
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Buechele practiced without the boot Tuesday
It looks like he'll be the starter this Saturday
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The Texas defense is executing at a high speed - filling gaps and playing their roles instinctively. I expect KSU to attempt to slow that aggression with screens and the dreaded "pop pass". The QB pretends to run a draw, the linemen run block, then the TE sprints out to catch a pass.
The only defense on this play is to have the safety run with the TE at all times.
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Based on what Mr T says, and after thinking it through - the QB decision is more a triviality and a distraction than anything else. But we fans love to hang it all on the QB.
But more that worrying about QB, we've got to win some first downs, as Tulip says. Whatever we can patch together for an OL, and possibly getting Carter out on the field could likely mean more than who's at QB.
I've seen plenty of Porter, last year and this year. The guy goes down as soon as he is grazed. And while Warren can make a putrid defense look putrid, he doesn't do much against serviceable defenses.
I think I'll worry more about getting Carter some reps rather than worrying about Shane vs. Sam. And whether or not we can open up some holes.
Second time ever, I agree with every single point in a 95 post. ;)
Of course a lot of that is because droog is right, as per usual.
Let's just see the o-line man up and win some battles. I've seen it happen at Texas before. It's been a long time, since about 2006, but I'm always hopeful that once again, we could have a competent, if not great, o-line...
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Every game from here on out is our season. With two losses already, a third would have the season basically coming to an end. What concerns me about KSU is that they have owned us since BIG 12 play started. I also wonder about attendance Saturday. I bet there will be several thousand seats empty like there was for the Maryland game.
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Every game from here on out is our season. With two losses already, a third would have the season basically coming to an end. What concerns me about KSU is that they have owned us since BIG 12 play started. I also wonder about attendance Saturday. I bet there will be several thousand seats empty like there was for the Maryland game.
I just dont think the Horns were ever forecast to go 10 and 2
UT will lose at least 3 more times this year
This is a must win game but not all of them will be
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With two losses already, a third would have the season basically coming to an end.
I also wonder about attendance Saturday. I bet there will be several thousand seats empty like there was for the Maryland game.
A 3rd loss and the season is over? Wow, you may live to see one more week.
Attendance issues? Well sure, Longhorn football has been thru some hapless drama the last several years, and it has taken its toll on folks. And it's the same old line-up, K-State, I-State, a church school, Tx Tech, maybe West freaking remote Virginia... it's really not marquee stuff. I'm not even sure winning will fix it. Meanwhile, Austin traffic takes no prisoners, so there is an element of brain damage to conquer when taking in a football game these days.
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I think winning can cure a lot of problems including attendance
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I think winning can cure a lot of problems including attendance
Really? Then put North Texas, South Dakota State, Hofstra, Oral Roberts, Mary Hardin Baylor, etc.. on the schedule. Let's win every game and pack out the stadium.
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I think the Big12 is plenty
sorry 95 but we just aint gonna move until its time to move and that time aint here yet
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sorry 95 but we just aint gonna move until its time to move and that time aint here yet
Well Aggy is already having trouble filling up its stadium and that's with an SEC schedule.
I dare say Texas with an SEC schedule would be packed full in Austin TX every game day. Even if visitors had to do their share.
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I agree with that assessment of 10-2. Win today and beat OU next week and who knows. Winning will fill DKR up. The line for todays game has Texas favored by 6.
https://www.vegas.com/gaming/sportsline/college-football/ (https://www.vegas.com/gaming/sportsline/college-football/)
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Way to go Horns
2 and 0 in conference play
have not done that since 2013
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Man what a game. I could go another decade without seeing another 2OT game.
Anyway, honk the horns. Any win over KSU is a good win for our program.
Time to start thinking about the next one.
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Looking at the stats its hard to believe this game went extra innings
Total yards 546 to 380
1st downs 32 to 16
we beat the cats in every category except field goal accuracy
I was very happy with Sam's performance
He threw 380 yards and 2 TDs
not bad for a freshman
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Looking at the stats 320 - it just shows you how the wizard knows how to steal wins from losses.
This is why its so good that we won, the wizard didn't steal one from the less experienced Herman. But he came damn close.
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Yup. This is the EXACT slow, muddled, draggy kind of game that the Purple Wizard usually lures us into and then beats our heads in with.
Unfortunately for KSU, for the time being at least,slow, muddled, and draggy is the kind of football Texas can excel at. Our struggles have diminished their advantage. So... hooray, us, I guess! :)
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I wonder if we can get Iowa St to put on Horn uniforms and go to the RRS next week
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They would have a better chance wearing Iowa St uniforms. OU would kill them in Texas gear.
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They would have a better chance wearing Iowa St uniforms. OU would kill them in Texas gear.
true enough
we are dooooooooomed
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Yup. This is the EXACT slow, muddled, draggy kind of game that the Purple Wizard usually lures us into and then beats our heads in with.
Unfortunately for KSU, for the time being at least,slow, muddled, and draggy is the kind of football Texas can excel at. Our struggles have diminished their advantage. So... hooray, us, I guess! :)
That must explain how they lost to Vanderbilt.
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I never had problems with traffic in all my years of going to UT games. Maybe it's different now.
Attendance is down all over the country, even with these SEC teams you speak of. It's a problem nearly every AD is trying to come up with a solution to. I have several, but as per usual, people in charge never ask my opinion.
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How bout ticket prices are too f****** high
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That's one. Two is quit making tickets so hard to get in the first place while making them so available to corporations and big TAF donors. Those are the people who don't show up to games, and if they do, they're hardly raucous. Three, quit charging $30 for the lots that used to be free.
Look, I just came up with a three-point plan that's better than anything our AD has done in years.
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I think to some extent that NFL and NCAA Div. 1 football is suffering from the "better to burn out than to fade away" syndrome.
Everything is overkill today. We hear of people making millions. We get hit with commercials on the jumbotrons. Ugly identity politics finds its way into every damn thing. Conference realignment bullcrap. We grow weary.
Oh, and milennials today can't get their heads out of their phones. Who needs a football game?
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We've talked about it before. I still maintain that the only thing college football has going for it is tribal unity.
The actions of a group of 18-22 year olds has no real effect on my life. The outcome of these contests doesn't change my station one iota. Why, then, do I get amped up, angry, giddy, and otherwise emotional before, during, and after?
That's my tribe out there. The colors, the cheers, the songs, the group are all familiar to me. It forms an identity that satisfies the human impulse to gregariousness.
In an attempt to look more "professional", colleges are destroying the identity of that tribe. Rather than hear the band play, they pump in hiphop music that, ordinarily, would be inspiring. This isn't the street, that isn't my identity, and that's not why I'm here. The colors and symbols are replaced by corporate logos in pursuit of money.
At some point, they tear through the "willful suspension of disbelief". I know I'm not really part of the team. Never was. I went to Texas for far too long, but that was far too long ago. I never attended Baylor at all (thus far). I choose to identify with that. As the symbolism becomes less and less, I'm more and more returned to the real fact that this is meaningless, and I'm better off casually viewing it from my living room where I can wander off when something more interesting (or meaningful) occurs.
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Wow Mr. T. Once again, nails.
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That's a big part of it.
Still, pricing out the average fan, tickets being harder to come by, the university ruining the tailgating scene that has defined our games for generations, and to a lesser extent having to play home games in the daytime is where I think it starts for us.
The whole tribal thing is kind of interwoven into all that. But fix those things, and the tribe is still there. For now.
Putting a good product on the field also helps, though it hasn't always hurt when it was lacking. Went to a lot of rocking games in the 90's when we were horrible and everybody knew we were gonna lose 56-0 again.
The ethos of fandom may have moved on from that now, I don't know.
Say what you want about the tenets of Delusional Optimism, at least it's an ethos.