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Title: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: Nashville4UGA on September 27, 2017, 03:48:26 PM
Not going to lie to you.....I want this one REAL bad. 
The media is expecting UGA to win by 3 scores, but if i'm being honest, i'm expecting UGA to get UT's best shot this Saturday.  Knoxville is always a tough place to play, UT seems to have their backs against the wall somewhat after less than stellar performance against.......UMASS.  Maybe it was the hangover from the Florida game, but UT will come out swinging as teams who have been hearing how bad they are for a few weeks tend to do. 

Will UGA players buy into the hype the media is pumping up their collective behinds this week after handing the Bulldogs from the west their asses on a silver platter this past Saturday or will we see a team coming in there to handle business? How will Jake Fromm handle the noise? How will our running game establish itself to protect the young QB? Can our Defense force Dormandy into some INT's like UF did? Can they stop Kelly? Can both sides of the ball avoid costly penalties?

My gut says yes, but this one is closer than most think and UGA scores late to make it a 10 point game.

UGA 27
UT 17

Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: Cincydawg on September 27, 2017, 05:09:15 PM
I think it'll be close and hinge on turn overs.
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 27, 2017, 10:37:11 PM
i just don't see it... UGA can play half speed on D and still stifle the UT O... this will be the biggest UT home blow out ever... something to the tune of 56/63 to 3/7.  
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: EastAthens on September 28, 2017, 12:19:10 AM
If UGA shuts down the Vols' run like we did Clanga and the Irish, we win in a romp.  If our guys have been closing the bars downtown all week and chasing sweet UGA co-eds, then Tenn will kick our buts.

UGA 31- UT 10
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 28, 2017, 11:17:49 AM
I think it'll be close and hinge on turn overs.
Been posting with you 11 years and every prediction ends with caveats about turnovers.  I'm beginning to sense a pattern.... 
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: Cincydawg on September 28, 2017, 11:48:10 AM
Probably 80% of major upsets hinge on turnovers, and 65% of the outcomes of competitive games hinge on turn overs and special teams play.  We often see the numbers otherwise being about even and the winner has a 2-0 or 3-1 margin on TOs and perhaps a special teams play.

Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: HighCountry3 on September 28, 2017, 01:00:48 PM
If last week's games are any indication of how the teams play, Then Georgia will kick our keisters. If If the past few games in the series are a guide, then it could be anybody's game. If it's the latter, then it should be an exciting game. As much as anything, I think the outcome will rest on Dormandy's decision making. He's been guilty of some untimely bad decisions this year. UT has an awful lot to prove in this game. Georgia has already proven that they can be a contender. UT, not so much.
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 28, 2017, 03:48:28 PM
Last week I was feeling the red and black dawgs big, this week I am sensing a closer game in the force.  I'm guessing UT will play inspired for the home crowd and make a game out of it, but will find a way to lose it while UGA finds a way to win it.  
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: bamajoe on September 28, 2017, 05:09:06 PM
IMO Tennessee just doesn't have the athletes to compete with Georgia. I don't think Tennessee is as good as they were last year. I don't see recruiting on a level necessary to reach the heights that Tennessee requires. I think this is an indictment on Butch Jones after five years.

I think Tennessee's only chance would be Fromm regressing to what a freshman typically does.
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 28, 2017, 08:56:10 PM
I'm thinking the team with the most points will win.  

Actual question - if UGA rolls big, 31-3 or something like that or worse, is Jones gone?  Or no matter what happens, UT wouldn't release that decision until the season is over/nearly over?
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 28, 2017, 09:00:16 PM
@OrangeAfroMan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=58) the current fashion is to appease the entitled boosters... they'd cut him by Saturday night, if that their reaction.  
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: VolRage on September 29, 2017, 10:28:05 AM
I disagree Bamajoe, the Vols have the athletes (5 top 15 classes in a row). It's the coaching and bad decisions at UT that is piss poor. Coach Jones has reached his ceiling. He can't do any better than 9 to 10 games per season (to include the bowl game).

I can not fathom Coach Cutt putting a QB on the field so woefully prepared, continually throwing off his back foot, and throwing into triple coverage habitually. I've seen true freshman better prepared under Cutt but Dormady is a JR. It's mind blowing.

Last year Coach Jones fired his S&C coach before the season (or he quit in disgust) and we go through the season without a S&C coach. When you look at photos of Fulmer teams the guys looked like body builders. When you look at photos of Jones teams they look fat. 

Regardless, the Vols are not capable of being champions of anything under Jones and this Saturday the Vols will get spanked.

GA 42 - Vols 10
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: Cincydawg on September 29, 2017, 01:21:39 PM
Vols 247 recruiting rankings:

2017 - 17th
2016 - 14th
2015 -  4th
2014 -  7th

UGA

2017 - 3rd
2016 - 6th
2015 - 6th
2014 - 8th

I don't know how much real difference there is between say 6th and 14th.  Those kids would be sophomores now.
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 29, 2017, 09:29:40 PM
https://www.facebook.com/SECNetwork/photos/a.129196000584483.1073741834.123694511134632/634628396707905/?type=3


i think he meant "Jake Fromm State Farm"... 
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 29, 2017, 11:40:45 PM
Vols 247 recruiting rankings:

2017 - 17th
2016 - 14th
2015 -  4th
2014 -  7th

UGA

2017 - 3rd
2016 - 6th
2015 - 6th
2014 - 8th

I don't know how much real difference there is between say 6th and 14th.  Those kids would be sophomores now.
There's definitely a difference there, but it's not about this group of players is better than that group of players.  It's about having more top-end players and/or a deeper pool of players and/or better young players facing the starters in practice.
And dont' forget, in the SEC, 15th in the country can mean 9th in the conference.  It's nuts.
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 30, 2017, 12:18:34 AM
Eh... what is a five star recruit with a middle school coach? What is a two star with a master?  

I watched TCU and oSu play last week... they were dancing on O with smooth execution and deliberate movement... watch a CBJ team and tell me what you see?  Sorry..  honey moon is over... do or die, Butch... all other aspects he offers have panned out except for the metric that matters. 
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 30, 2017, 08:49:04 AM
Jones = Zook ?

Good recruiter, out of his depth on Saturdays?
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: Cincydawg on September 30, 2017, 10:04:08 AM
Another factor on recruiting is how many players left early.  Georgia had most of their senior class return on defense and at running back (both Michel and Chubb obviously).  Two of their senior LBs could have declared.

I think the Vols lost a few rising seniors on defense.

I'm very worried about this game.  UGA is on a high, and in the past that has been followed by mysteriously poor play on the road year after year.  
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 30, 2017, 05:16:39 PM
Wow, look at that first half.  Has a coach ever been fired at halftime?  

UT's drive chart vs UGA:
INT
Punt
Punt
Punt
Punt
Fumble
Punt
INT
Punt

Longest drive:  28 yards
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: Cincydawg on September 30, 2017, 05:19:06 PM
The Vols had a couple of tough breaks go against them.  They'll be back for the second half.

The Dawg defense might be pretty decent.  The announcer called them "Alabama East".

Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 01, 2017, 12:10:32 AM
Yeah...no.
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: Cincydawg on October 01, 2017, 11:18:37 AM
So, Miss State no longer looks like a very good win especially and Tennessee indeed is a dumpster on fire.
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: Drew4UTk on October 01, 2017, 11:44:58 AM
the fact about CBJ is he is consistent.  he's just as consistent as St. Nick Saban or Belichick.. he's just on the side of the ledger opposite them.  

CBJ is a good if not great team manager or program manager.  he is not very good leader of the team.  the tropps don't rally to him, they hardly seem to respond to him on the field.  he plays in fear of losing.  that filters through the ranks.  he's hardly a confident image but instead something that appears to be trying really hard to be taken seriously and 'look' the part, but without authenticity.  

here is the thing and i've said it before- it isn't the components of the team, it's the coaching and the (lack of) mojo.  There isn't a decided leader on the team- such as A.J. Jackson was- where the team played above their station simply because their leader demanded it.  they lack confidence, and because their coach exudes the fear of losing (doing something wrong)- if their coach has no confidence in them, why should they have confidence in themselves? 

when that dude coaches dingle-dangle-dangling-free-unafraid (which is usually when he is playing from behind and truly has nothing to lose) he does 'okay'.. i'm somewhat fascinated how nobody has put this together about him in the five years he's been at UT.
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 01, 2017, 11:52:19 AM
Well John Kelly could be that guy, but......he has the big TD vs Florida, then gets the 15 yard penalty.  He has the big run vs UGA, but fumbles at the end of it.

*I think you meant AJ Johnson?  
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 01, 2017, 11:52:41 AM
Funny quote from UF columnist:

"Georgia has outscored its last two SEC opponents 72-3. To which Alabama said, “Hold my beer.” The Tide’s combined score in their last two games against Vanderbilt and Ole Miss has been 124-3."
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: Drew4UTk on October 01, 2017, 11:53:22 AM
yup- johnson... oops
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: MikeDeTiger on October 01, 2017, 03:56:09 PM
So, Miss State no longer looks like a very good win especially and Tennessee indeed is a dumpster on fire.
I did try to tell people MSU isn't as good as we made them look.  But it's still a good win for UGA.  Throttling a mediocre team 31-3 or whatever it was is what a very good team should be doing.  
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: Cincydawg on October 02, 2017, 08:43:21 AM
I think the Vols with a Jake Fromm type at QB could be a pretty solid team this year.  QD showed me nothing in that game.  Now maybe he was under pressure and the Dawgs seemed to be covering receivers pretty well.

One of the INTs UGA had was plausibly due to premature contact (PI) that was not called.  The butt snap fumble was probably not a designed play.  That shifted the momentum.  Tenn had just gotten a turnover on an errant pass.

Fromm does tend to lock in on where he's going to throw the ball often as not.  Other teams will see that, and perhaps we can turn that into a hitch and go.
Title: Re: It's UGA vs. UT week
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 02, 2017, 10:06:30 PM
 The butt snap fumble was probably not a designed play.  
This sentence is gold.  Gold I tell ya's!