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Title: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: Big Beef Tacosupreme on September 25, 2017, 03:17:03 PM
This is the true story... of 14 strangers... picked to live in a division...(play together) and have their lives taped... to find out what happens... when people stop being polite... and start getting real...The Real World.

1.  Iowa - ok, I know Trace McSorely punted the ball in the air after a game.  I know that a few Penn state players shushed the crowd after the final play.  What would you do after being berated and insulted for over 3 hours?  This wasn't like hearing a raucous crowd at an OSU or Penn State game...this was having insults screamed in your ear from 12 inches away.  The live video from the field after the game was pretty much rated R due to the choice words from the crowd.  I can't imagine how bad it was during the game. The players wanted to return some of it at the end, and they did.  Frankly, I think the punt proves how effective Kinnick was at getting into the player's heads.  Trace McSorely mostly has ice in his veins.  To get him to react like that is quite the accomplishment.

2.  Ohio State - I have nothing this week.  In fact, I didn't even bother to watch your game, because it was the least interesting game in the B1G.  Actually, it might have been the least interesting game on Saturday.

3.  Michigan - Can we all finally agree that Speight is awful?

4.  Penn State - For the love of god -- if you have the best player in the game, give him the ball on the opponents two yard line.  Stop trying to be cute and just let Barkley get it into the end zone.  Moorhead may be an offensive genius, but good lord there's about 90+ better offensive coordinators in short yardage situations...

5.  Maryland - My heart actually broke for you guys this week.  I know that isn't mean, but you'll have to settle for pity...

More to come?
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: FearlessF on September 25, 2017, 04:56:43 PM
3.  Michigan - Can we all finally agree that Speight is awful?

More to come?

pretty sure we all agreed to this a few weeks ago.
Well, everyone but Coach Jimmy the QB whisperer
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 25, 2017, 05:20:18 PM
Nope.

Speight Rules. 
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 25, 2017, 05:46:39 PM

Well, everyone but Coach Jimmy the QB whisperer
                                                                                     :s_laugh:
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: Big Beef Tacosupreme on September 25, 2017, 06:20:03 PM
Purdue - Gamesmanship only goes so far, Purdue.  You WAY crossed that line.  No AC?  OK, fine.  Toilets without doors?  Pushing it.  Only 2 toilets for the entire visitor's locker room?  Subpar medical facilities and equipment?  WAY over the line.  Worse?  You made me agree with Jim Harbaugh.  UGHHHH
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 25, 2017, 06:43:11 PM
Purdue - Gamesmanship only goes so far, Purdue.  You WAY crossed that line.  No AC?  OK, fine.  Toilets without doors?  Pushing it.  Only 2 toilets for the entire visitor's locker room?  Subpar medical facilities and equipment?  WAY over the line.  Worse?  You made me agree with Jim Harbaugh.  UGHHHH
Two sides to every story... (https://www.hammerandrails.com/football/2017/9/25/16363732/purdue-responds-to-harbaugh-michigans-locker-room-criticisms)
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: FearlessF on September 25, 2017, 06:46:11 PM
I'm not agreeing with Jimmy
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: MrNubbz on September 25, 2017, 07:33:23 PM
Maybe they can finish the rubber room in time for his next visit
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: rook119 on September 25, 2017, 07:34:40 PM

4.  Penn State - For the love of god -- if you have the best player in the game, give him the ball on the opponents two yard line.  Stop trying to be cute and just let Barkley get it into the end zone.  Moorhead may be an offensive genius, but good lord there's about 90+ better offensive coordinators in short yardage situations...

5.  Maryland - My heart actually broke for you guys this week.  I know that isn't mean, but you'll have to settle for pity...

More to come?
4. I hate hate hate the inside run read option inside the 5. When I'm supreme leader anyone who constantly runs that play will be immediately sent to the gulag. I don't know why Franklin kicked FGs inside the 2 though. For the most part that Iowa offense wasn't doing anything. 
5. Imagine having 2 good QBs and then having them both go down by week 4?   
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: DevilFroggy on September 26, 2017, 07:58:22 AM
Two sides to every story... (https://www.hammerandrails.com/football/2017/9/25/16363732/purdue-responds-to-harbaugh-michigans-locker-room-criticisms)
Never attribute to malice that you can explain that which is adequately explained by incompetence.
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: Temp430 on September 26, 2017, 08:13:42 AM
Purdue says it offered Michigan alternate facilities due to the lack of AC.  I think Harbaugh did the right thing by putting the starters back on the air conditioned team bus at halftime.  God only knows what Purdue's alternate facilities would have been.

There was AC in the locker room when the Michigan staff member did the walk through in July but Purdue later removed it.  Why?  One can only speculate it may not have been gamesmanship but rather some noble cause like trying to save energy and thus the planet.  
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 26, 2017, 08:28:28 AM
Is Michigan so soft that they can't go 3.5 hours without Air Conditioning? 
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: PSUinNC on September 26, 2017, 09:47:10 AM
4. I hate hate hate the inside run read option inside the 5. When I'm supreme leader anyone who constantly runs that play will be immediately sent to the gulag. I don't know why Franklin kicked FGs inside the 2 though. For the most part that Iowa offense wasn't doing anything.
5. Imagine having 2 good QBs and then having them both go down by week 4?  
I can't understand why Robinson's not getting more looks in short yardage.  He's a load to take down once he gets a head of steam.
Then again, the OL needs to run block better....WAY better.
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 26, 2017, 09:59:49 AM
Found this on the Land of Ten, but it's an ESPN work. The Madman can stop throwing stones from his glass house now, I reckon.

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Here's how a former Big Ten assistant assessed 12 of the visiting locker rooms in the league. It's definitely a problem.
 
Illinois = pathetic.
Purdue = pathetic.
Nebraska = OK.
Wisconsin = OK.
Iowa = OK.
Michigan = below average.
Michigan State = pathetic.
Minnesota = nice.
Maryland = pathetic.
Northwestern = pathetic.
Penn State = OK.
Ohio State = below average.
 
 
(https://www.cfb51.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffile%3A%2F%2F%2FC%3A%2FUsers%2FJMeier%2FAppData%2FLocal%2FTemp%2Fmsohtmlclip1%2F01%2Fclip_image001.png&hash=89ea4bd7ce3fc9ee923d4e13cab1d3e0)Adam Rittenberg, ESPN Staff Writer
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: DevilFroggy on September 26, 2017, 10:14:25 AM
Found this on the Land of Ten, but it's an ESPN work. The Madman can stop throwing stones from his glass house now, I reckon.

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Here's how a former Big Ten assistant assessed 12 of the visiting locker rooms in the league. It's definitely a problem.
 
Illinois = pathetic.
Purdue = pathetic.
Nebraska = OK.
Wisconsin = OK.
Iowa = OK.
Michigan = below average.
Michigan State = pathetic.
Minnesota = nice.
Maryland = pathetic.
Northwestern = pathetic.
Penn State = OK.
Ohio State = below average.
 
 
(https://www.cfb51.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffile%3A%2F%2F%2FC%3A%2FUsers%2FJMeier%2FAppData%2FLocal%2FTemp%2Fmsohtmlclip1%2F01%2Fclip_image001.png&hash=89ea4bd7ce3fc9ee923d4e13cab1d3e0)Adam Rittenberg, ESPN Staff Writer

Looks like he ranked them better than Purdue, so maybe he can actually still throw stones at them.
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 26, 2017, 10:20:29 AM
"Below Average" for a mega-rich program is not acceptable.
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 26, 2017, 10:51:34 AM
Word on the street is that Michigan's visiting locker room is pretty nasty as well. 
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 26, 2017, 11:11:54 AM
Word on the street is that Michigan's visiting locker room is pretty nasty as well.
It was ranked below average by whoever the former coach was. But, in fairness, they just did a lot of renovation so maybe they improved it with that work.

That's when UW's got nicer - in 2005 with the reno. Before that it was.. Purdue.



All that aside, why take this to the media in the first place? Have your AD call their AD, get Delany involved and do it behind closed doors. But no. That's not how he does things.
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 26, 2017, 11:51:41 AM
Beanie Wells does local radio. In his opinion, teams should make it as unpleasant as possible for the visiting team. That goes on from HS all the way on up, and is just part of the deal. 

That said, he declared Iowa's was the nicest, in spite of the fact it was pink.

He said in 2007, Michigan cut off the electricity and clogged three of the toilets before OSU showed up. They had to plunge the commodes themself before they could use them. 

Apparently Purdue's was out in some sort of a shed. 
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: Temp430 on September 26, 2017, 01:38:58 PM
This ranking was by a single anonymous former assistant coach.  Not some sort of official audit against a checklist of minimum requirements.  So, I wouldn't read too much into it.

LINK (https://www.landof10.com/big-ten/purdue-locker-room-jim-harbaugh-big-ten)
Found this on the Land of Ten, but it's an ESPN work. The Madman can stop throwing stones from his glass house now, I reckon.

*************************************

Here's how a former Big Ten assistant assessed 12 of the visiting locker rooms in the league. It's definitely a problem.
 
Illinois = pathetic.
Purdue = pathetic.
Nebraska = OK.
Wisconsin = OK.
Iowa = OK.
Michigan = below average.
Michigan State = pathetic.
Minnesota = nice.
Maryland = pathetic.
Northwestern = pathetic.
Penn State = OK.
Ohio State = below average.
 
 
(https://www.cfb51.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffile%3A%2F%2F%2FC%3A%2FUsers%2FJMeier%2FAppData%2FLocal%2FTemp%2Fmsohtmlclip1%2F01%2Fclip_image001.png&hash=89ea4bd7ce3fc9ee923d4e13cab1d3e0)Adam Rittenberg, ESPN Staff Writer

Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: grillrat on September 26, 2017, 02:14:28 PM
All that aside, why take this to the media in the first place? Have your AD call their AD, get Delany involved and do it behind closed doors. But no. That's not how he does things.
Call it a conspiracy theory, but its because 1) Purdue and Michigan are currently fighting for a 4* recruit in Indiana.  Harbaugh gets to trash Purdue and at the same time gets to cloak it in an "appeal for player safety" and 2) Despite the final score, that game was pretty close, at least up through the third quarter.  Harbaugh had to put up with an entire weeks worth of Purdue being the scrappy underdog along Michigan's offensive troubles.  Harbaugh's team didn't get to embarrass us like he hoped, so he goes after the facilities in an open forum instead.

Note:  This is not what I believe, but what I have read on a few message boards (and specifically not Purdue ones at that.  MSU and OSU).
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 26, 2017, 02:18:01 PM
Works for me. Otherwise there was no reason to bring it up at a presser. None.
Title: Re: Stirring the pot 4
Post by: BMF on October 01, 2017, 11:31:50 PM
Purdue - Gamesmanship only goes so far, Purdue.  You WAY crossed that line.  No AC?  OK, fine.  Toilets without doors?  Pushing it.  Only 2 toilets for the entire visitor's locker room?  Subpar medical facilities and equipment?  WAY over the line.  Worse?  You made me agree with Jim Harbaugh.  UGHHHH
Maybe Jimmy has a point.  As a visiting Purdue fan to a few games at Michigan, I've always found the accommodations to be stellar.  I've not ever even had a problem taking a dump, literally anywhere, on their campus. Always happy to leave a little bit of Pure Michigan behind on game day.