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Title: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 18, 2019, 07:53:06 PM
It's December 9th, 1993.  The regular season is over, and the playoff teams are set.  Who are you predicting will win it all???
1 FSU vs 4 ND
2 Nebraska vs 3 WV
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The teams:
#1 FSU, 12-1, ACC Champions
1st in scoring offense
1st in scoring defense
21st in strength of schedule
The Seminoles were ranked #1 the entire season, except for the week following their only loss @ 2nd-ranked ND in the latest "Game of the Century".  FSU faced six ranked opponents, and beat the other five all by double-digits.  The victims included #21 Clemson, @#13 UNC, #3 Miami, #15 Virginia, and @#7 Florida.  The Noles held seven teams to under 10 points and scored over 50 in four contests.  
Led by Heisman-winner Charlie Ward at QB, the "fast-break" offense put up 320+ yards passing and 220+ yards rushing per game.  Ward completed nearly 70% of his passes and only 4 INTs.  RB Jackson averaged 6.2 ypc and backup Dunn 7.5.  Four FSU receivers had 500+ yards on the year.  
Defensively, teams couldn't complete 50% of their passes on the year and FSU allowed under 100 yards rushing per game as well.  Led by LB Derrick Brooks, there was speed all over the field and points were just hard to come by.  The special teams were unremarkable, as much balleyhooed K Scott Bentley only hit on 65% of his kicks.
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#2 Nebraska, 11-0, Big 8 Champions
7th in scoring offense
13th in scoring defense
23rd in strength of schedule
Nebraska's road to the playoff involved only 2 games against ranked teams, but the Huskers passed both tests - a four-point win @ #20 Colorado and a 14 point win over #16 OU at home.  It wasn't all easy for Big Red, as they had 1-point wins @ unranked UCLA and @ Kansas.  The option offense, however, did put up 40+ points six times on the year.
QB Tommie Frazier produced an impressive TD/INT ratio for an option QB (12/4), but completed less than half his passes.  RB Calvin Jones surpassed 1,000 yards and backups Phillips and Benning were just as good.  
The defense was solid, if not spectacular.  The pass D kept opponents under 50% completions on the seasons, but the Huskers weren't so strong vs the run.  They didn't produce a lot of turnovers, but they didn't allow many points, either.  LB Trev Alberts led the team in sacks, by far.
The special teams were solid, but Bennett was a better punter than a kicker (55% on FGs).  
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#3 West Virginia, 11-0, Big East Champions
14th in scoring offense
19th in scoring defense
54th in strength of schedule
The wild card in this playoff, the Mountaineers began the season unranked, but just kept winning.  They wound up beating 3 ranked teams:  #17 Louisville by 2, #4 Miami by 3, and @#11 BC by 3.  Those last two wins shot WV up the rankings from 9th to 3rd.  
WV had a balanced offense with a strong running game (213 yds passing/234 yds rushing).  They played 2 QBs during the year, in Kelchner and Studstill.  Neither threw the ball very often, but both were efficient and combined for 20 TD passes and 7 INTs.  RB Robert Walker provided 1,250 yards on the ground with 11 TDs.  Their two 700-yard receivers both had high yards-per-catch averages, so they had plenty of big plays in the passing game (Kearney led country in YPC).
WV picked off over 20 opponents' passes, but gave up a lot of yardage through the air as well.  They were better against the run.  Todd Sauerbrun, their All-American punter, kicked FGs for most of the year, but hit under 50% of them.  
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#4 Notre Dame, 10-1, Independent
8th in scoring offense
21st in scoring defense
15th in strength of schedule
The Irish, winners of the "Game of the Century" vs #1 FSU, lost their only game of the season the following week at home against #17 Boston College on a last-second FG.  Besides those two games, ND won it's other contest vs a ranked foe @#3 Michigan by 4 points.
Notre Dame's offense relied heavily on the run, and they stopped the run as well.  QB McDougal threw for efficient numbers, but only had 7 TD and 5 INTs.  But RB Becton (1000 yds), FB Zellars, and RB Kinder all had 500+ yards and good averages.  They liked to use FB Edwards in goalline situations (40 car, 8 TD).  WRs Lake Dawson and Derrick Mayes were the biggest threats deep.  
On defense, ND struggled in pass D, allowing a 62% completion rate and over 225 ypg.  Opponents found running on them tough, though, at under 90 ypg.  
The Irish ran 3 kicks back for TDs (1 KO, 2 PR).  The kicking game was good, but they used 3 punters, none of which averaged 40 yards.  
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The Award Winners:
QB Charlie Ward, FSU (Heisman, O'Brien, Unitas, Maxwell, Camp, All-American)
LB Trev Alberts, Nebraska (Butkus, AA)
OT Aaron Taylor, ND (Lombardi, AA)
LB Derrick Brooks, FSU (AA)
DB Jeff Burris, ND (AA)
DB Corey Sawyer, FSU (AA)
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#5 in 1993 was an 11-0 SEC team.  Auburn, led by Tommy Bowden, was on probation.  They beat #4 Florida and #11 Alabama in close games, but otherwise played a really weak schedule.  Just an interesting tid-bit.
Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 18, 2019, 07:53:38 PM
Game of the Century rematch in one semifinal....
Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: FearlessF on January 18, 2019, 08:01:51 PM
Sooners weren't #3
Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: FearlessF on January 18, 2019, 08:06:23 PM
I had to go with the homer pick

I was at the Orange bowl vs Charlie Ward, Huskers were 17.5 point dogs, outplayed the Noles that night

I know I'm not supposed to use that data point, but............ I saw it with my own eyes

if I forget about that game, it's the Noles, no question
Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 18, 2019, 08:10:36 PM
So in citing the game you're not supposed to take into account, you saw the underdog lose, and picked them?  :a102:

If this doesn't prove it's a free country, nothing will.  
Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: MarqHusker on January 18, 2019, 08:19:41 PM
I was at the OB that very humid  night as well.  Replay review would've flipped that result too. Floyd fumbled.  There was even less of a clip on Dixon's punt return than the Rocket's in the 90 OB.  I'd love to see that game again and would expect it to be the final if this were a final four.
Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: FearlessF on January 18, 2019, 08:43:21 PM
So in citing the game you're not supposed to take into account, you saw the underdog lose, and picked them?  :a102:

yes, because in this exercise, that game never happened and the underdog was the better team on the field
so, in predicting which team would win the final, the better team would win.  I have no reason to think the Husker's top I-back Ahman Green and it's top WR Abdul Muhammad would miss the 2nd half with injuries.
Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: FearlessF on January 18, 2019, 09:08:22 PM
https://www.si.com/vault/1994/01/10/130230/wide-left-florida-state-claimed-the-national-title-with-a-down-to-the-wire-win-over-nebraska (https://www.si.com/vault/1994/01/10/130230/wide-left-florida-state-claimed-the-national-title-with-a-down-to-the-wire-win-over-nebraska)


And so, ladies and gentlemen, here and now we present the undisputed champion of college football, the team that proved itself to be far and away the best in the land, a squad that truly deserves to be etched in history as the finest of 1993....

Nobody.

It's no disgrace. Happens all the time. Some weeks nobody wins the lottery. Every now and then, no one is deemed worthy of a Pulitzer or a Nobel Prize. Lots of trials end in hung juries. Why shouldn't it be the same in college football?

Forcing the football world to pick a national champion this year is like asking a woman to choose her favorite Baldwin brother. They are all lovely to look at but far too alike to tell apart.
Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: Kris60 on January 18, 2019, 09:11:16 PM
FWIW, WVU actually beat four ranked teams that season.  They beat VT who finished #22 (or somewhere around there) but that was an 8-3 team that somehow stumbled into an 11-0 season.  They gave me a lot of good memories though.

I took FSU but Nebraska beating them wouldn’t surprise me.  It was that game that served notice Nebraska was about to turn a corner.
Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: FearlessF on January 18, 2019, 09:20:45 PM
Trev Alberts* is named to the Des Moines Register’s Iowa Sports Hall of Fame.

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Trev Alberts didn’t let a bum right elbow — injured in the final regular-season game against Oklahoma — keep him from what may have been his most amazing performance as a Blackshirt.

With a cast on his arm, Alberts and his teammates relentlessly harassed Florida State's Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback Charlie Ward in the 1994 Orange Bowl, sacking him five times, including three by Alberts. The Seminoles had given up just 10 sacks all season.

Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: MrNubbz on January 18, 2019, 09:38:20 PM
As long as it isn't the Broadcasting Hall of Fame
Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 18, 2019, 11:32:13 PM
No love for ND?  The team that beat the team?
Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: ELA on January 18, 2019, 11:42:32 PM
Chalk
Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 19, 2019, 09:13:17 AM
Notre Dame sure played in a lot of "game of the century"s during that century. 
Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: FearlessF on January 19, 2019, 09:43:43 AM
I'd give the Irish the nod over the mountaineers

Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: ALA2262 on January 22, 2019, 12:49:54 PM
#2 has won 3 of the 5 played. #1 has won none. I'll go with #2 here.
Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: SFBadger96 on January 22, 2019, 03:28:40 PM
I went with the homer vote for ND. Would have likely been another classic between the Irish and the Noles. And Nebraska/West Virginia would have been a good one, too--and I think Nebraska wins it. Nebraska and the Irish pounding away on the ground would likely have been a low-scoring game, and because I would want that outcome, I'm going with the Irish.
Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: Entropy on January 23, 2019, 12:45:53 PM
I voted FSU.    The beat UNL in Miami on a phantom block in the back on a punt return and fumble that was never called.    (yes... I don't let go...)
Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 24, 2019, 01:05:39 AM
I voted FSU because I feel like they underachieved in the games vs ND and Nebraska in real life.  Given the chance to play those teams again, I think the games turn out differently in solid, double-digit wins for the Noles.  
It's not what I'd want to happen, just what I deem would be most likely to happen.
Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: FearlessF on January 24, 2019, 02:43:19 PM
I understand your thinking

I deem it's most likely that in a rematch, the Huskers would bounce Charlie Ward by 2 TDs
Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 25, 2019, 10:49:00 PM
Well one of us is emotionally invested and the other is reluctantly picking a rival because, you know, objectivity and stuff.
Title: Re: Vote - What if the CFP was played in 1993?
Post by: FearlessF on January 26, 2019, 10:02:43 AM
I was emotionally invested sitting in the ORange bowl that evening

not so much today

Coach Bowden himself said the Huskers outplayed his team and were probably the better team