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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: Hawkinole on September 18, 2017, 06:24:37 PM

Title: Helmet
Post by: Hawkinole on September 18, 2017, 06:24:37 PM
A new helmet designed to be safer by a company heretofore unheard of by me:

The new Vicis Helmet (http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/16/news/companies/vicis-nfl-helmet-concussions-safety/index.html)
Title: Re: Helmet
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 18, 2017, 06:58:38 PM
The safest thing to do would be to get rid of the helmet entirely. Guys would stop using their heads as weapons that way.
Title: Re: Helmet
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 18, 2017, 07:24:23 PM
Ehhh, me and my high school friends had plenty of injuries playing very competitive pickup football games.  More than bloody noses and shots to the balls, lol.  And none of us was huge or fast or strong.
Title: Re: Helmet
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 18, 2017, 07:29:11 PM
Ehhh, me and my high school friends had plenty of injuries playing very competitive pickup football games.  More than bloody noses and shots to the balls, lol.  And none of us was huge or fast or strong.
Key being that you have fewer head injuries / concussions / CTE. 
Sure, there could be all sorts of injuries to all sorts of parts of your body... 

But none of them damaged your brain. I mean, you still get accepted to college with the head on your shoulders. Even if it WAS an SEC school :)
Title: Re: Helmet
Post by: FearlessF on September 18, 2017, 07:36:05 PM
 Guys would stop using their heads as weapons that way.
most guys would
Title: Re: Helmet
Post by: MarqHusker on September 18, 2017, 07:57:36 PM
I've read neurologists say there's no helmet design that will ever prevent the Brain from colliding with itself inside the skull.
Title: Re: Helmet
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 19, 2017, 11:03:13 PM
Key being that you have fewer head injuries / concussions / CTE.
Sure, there could be all sorts of injuries to all sorts of parts of your body...

But none of them damaged your brain. I mean, you still get accepted to college with the head on your shoulders. Even if it WAS an SEC school :)
I was talking about head injuries as well.  Yes, you decrease the number of purposeful head-on strikes and injuries, but there are MANY more accidental blows to the head.  Countless undiagnosed concussions in just kids playing a pickup game.  Now up the athleticism, speed, force, and violence times 10 and tell me about the accidental head injury numbers.
Title: Re: Helmet
Post by: utee94 on September 19, 2017, 11:54:55 PM
Plenty of unreported and underreported concussions and other head injuries in soccer (at all levels).

There's so much money in that international sport, it's going to be the next big thing in liability, and could ultimately spell its doom, just as surely as the writing is on the wall for American football.  Just a matter of time at this point.
Title: Re: Helmet
Post by: Geolion91 on September 20, 2017, 08:12:28 AM
Boxing, kickboxing and MMA have yet to be outlawed.
Title: Re: Helmet
Post by: Cincydawg on September 20, 2017, 09:31:52 AM
I've read neurologists say there's no helmet design that will ever prevent the Brain from colliding with itself inside the skull.
The problem is one of deceleration, and that requires time and space obviously.  No helmet can reduce deceleration without more space since time here is not a controllable variable.
You cannot decelerate an impact in 2 inches or so.  You need 3-4" to reduce it, in effect a larger helmet.
F = ma.  You can take that to the bank.  It isn't going to change.
So, in theory, a helmet that is enormous could "cushion" a blow by decelerating at a slower pace.  It would be quite large.
If you are in a bad auto accident, this is a factor as well and cars have intentional crumple zones to reduce the impact to the passengers.
Title: Re: Helmet
Post by: FearlessF on September 20, 2017, 07:25:25 PM
By Dr. Peter Cummings

My name is Peter Cummings. I am a forensic pathologist and a neuropathologist, which means I study brain trauma for a living. I am also a football coach and I let my 11-year-old son play football. I may be the only neuropathologist on Earth who lets his kid play football.

https://sports.yahoo.com/im-brain-scientist-let-son-play-football-135727314.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/im-brain-scientist-let-son-play-football-135727314.html)
Title: Re: Helmet
Post by: ELA on September 21, 2017, 08:44:22 AM
This is where I wish dudekd hadn't disappeared
Title: Re: Helmet
Post by: Hawkinole on September 21, 2017, 06:51:19 PM
This is where I wish dudekd hadn't disappeared
You are right. I haven't seen him post here. Didn't 847Badgerfan collect emails? Perhaps someone should contact him.
Title: Re: Helmet
Post by: ELA on September 21, 2017, 06:58:51 PM
You are right. I haven't seen him post here. Didn't 847Badgerfan collect emails? Perhaps someone should contact him.
He was very active the first few weeks here, and then stopped.  I saw he was active on Facebook , so he seems ok.
Title: Re: Helmet
Post by: ELA on September 21, 2017, 07:00:00 PM
Side note, I assumed it had been bumped for this

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20777856/lawyer-says-aaron-hernandez-had-advanced-stages-cte