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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: ELA on December 11, 2018, 01:01:47 PM
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| QB | | Dwayne Haskins | | Ohio State |
| RB | | Jonathan Taylor | | Wisconsin |
| RB | | Reggie Corbin | | Illinois |
| WR | | Rondale Moore | | Purdue |
| WR | | Tyler Johnson | | Minnesota |
| TE | | T.J. Hockeson | | Iowa |
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| QB | | David Blough | | Purdue |
| RB | | Karan Higdon | | Michigan |
| RB | | Devine Ozigbo | | Nebraska |
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Woof
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Yeah, as we assemble these teams I'm starting to wonder if UM and MSU's defenses were actually that good, or Big Ten offense is just that bad. I think I would take MSU's 2014 offense, which was possibly MSU's best ever, but not some historic juggernaut, over our all-conference first team thus far.
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Went with Prince on this one. He was the most steady of the group, it seems.
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Yeah, as we assemble these teams I'm starting to wonder if UM and MSU's defenses were actually that good, or Big Ten offense is just that bad. I think I would take MSU's 2014 offense, which was possibly MSU's best ever, but not some historic juggernaut, over our all-conference first team thus far.
B1G offenses are just that bad right now.
Where are the elite tackles? The elite RB's? The elite WR's? Sure as hell no Jake Long or Joe Thomas type tackle. Not even a Taylor Lewan or Taylor Decker. The RB's? Forget about it. No Barkley, Zeke, or L-Bell. I don't see anyone even close to that. The WR's have been bad for awhile. Who was the last truly elite elite NFL WR prospect out of the B1G? Braylon Edwards 13 years ago? No disrespect to Ginn and Gonzalez- I know they both went 1st round but neither were close to Braylon. I think Michigan has two kids that have that kind of potential because of their raw talents in DPJ and Tarik Black. But Black has been injured every freaking year and DPJ is developing but at a slow pace and not sure he has the coaches who can develop him into a stud.
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Went with Prince on this one. He was the most steady of the group, it seems.
he's the only real option honestly.
Jon Runyan Jr shouldn't be on the list. He's a 6'3.5" guard with short arms playing tackle.
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Yeah, I agree. Edwards played with a bad shoulder all season and that showed. He was not up to the standard he set for himself last season, that's for sure. Still pretty good but not great.
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B1G offenses are just that bad right now.
Where are the elite tackles? The elite RB's? The elite WR's? Sure as hell no Jake Long or Joe Thomas type tackle. Not even a Taylor Lewan or Taylor Decker. The RB's? Forget about it. No Barkley, Zeke, or L-Bell. I don't see anyone even close to that. The WR's have been bad for awhile. Who was the last truly elite elite NFL WR prospect out of the B1G? Braylon Edwards 13 years ago? No disrespect to Ginn and Gonzalez- I know they both went 1st round but neither were close to Braylon. I think Michigan has two kids that have that kind of potential because of their raw talents in DPJ and Tarik Black. But Black has been injured every freaking year and DPJ is developing but at a slow pace and not sure he has the coaches who can develop him into a stud.
Michael Thomas? He's about to go to his second Pro Bowl in 3 years in the NFL. He's the best WR the conference has produced in a long time, but just based on college play? I would say Ginn, I think you're selling him a little short. He was elite. Had a few there in the early 2000s before him, but nothing like that now. Santonio, Braylon, Lee Evans, Michael Jenkins, Charles Rodgers, Bryant Johnson, David Terrell, Plexico Burress. Those guys all came out in like a 4-5 year period, and Ginn is the only one since then I would put in that same class, and even he's like a decade out at this point.
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Michael Thomas? He's about to go to his second Pro Bowl in 3 years in the NFL. He's the best WR the conference has produced in a long time, but just based on college play? I would say Ginn, I think you're selling him a little short. He was elite. Had a few there in the early 2000s before him, but nothing like that now. Santonio, Braylon, Lee Evans, Michael Jenkins, Charles Rodgers, Bryant Johnson, David Terrell, Plexico Burress. Those guys all came out in like a 4-5 year period, and Ginn is the only one since then I would put in that same class, and even he's like a decade out at this point.
Michael Thomas was a 2nd rounder though. I'm talking elite top 5-10 guy. SEC has had a run of those lately while the B1G has had nothin'. Michael Thomas was a heckuva player in college and is in the pros- but he lacked the elite speed/explosion of guys like Charles Rogers or Braylon. That's why he went 2nd round and not in the top 5 like those guys. Thomas is having a very nice career but he also plays with a top 5 QB all-time in Brees and a head coach who is an offensive wizard in Sean Payton. Not knocking Thomas, just pointing out the great situation he's in.
Not sure I agree with you on Ginn. He was an amazing kick returner with blazing speed, but I think everyone was surprised when the Dolphins took him in the top 10. It was a pretty big shock to Dolphins fans and the NFL world. He was on the smallish side and not really fully developed as a WR. He was still more insane athlete than polished WR.