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Title: Quick Lane Bowl: Minnesota 34, Georgia Tech 10
Post by: ELA on December 02, 2018, 04:47:03 PM
Possibly the most interesting Motor City/Pizza Pizza Bowl since Randy Moss played Ole Miss?
Title: Re: Quick Lane Bowl: Minnesota (6-6) vs. Georgia Tech (7-5)
Post by: FearlessF on December 02, 2018, 05:16:11 PM
rowing the boat vs the option!
Title: Re: Quick Lane Bowl: Minnesota (6-6) vs. Georgia Tech (7-5)
Post by: GopherRock on December 03, 2018, 11:05:10 AM
I might actually go to this game, as yours truly will be at the future in-laws near Ann Arbor for the yule tide. However, I'm not paying $100 for a ticket through the ticket office when I can get them for $35 through the Lions ticket office. 
Title: Re: Quick Lane Bowl: Minnesota (6-6) vs. Georgia Tech (7-5)
Post by: FearlessF on December 03, 2018, 03:00:05 PM
might be able to pick them up outside the stadium for $10 30 minutes before kick
Title: Re: Quick Lane Bowl: Minnesota (6-6) vs. Georgia Tech (7-5)
Post by: ELA on December 03, 2018, 03:55:16 PM
might be able to pick them up outside the stadium for $10 30 minutes before kick
This.
Even $30 is too much to spend.
Title: Re: Quick Lane Bowl: Minnesota (6-6) vs. Georgia Tech (7-5)
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 03, 2018, 03:56:59 PM
rowing the boat vs the option!
Fleck vs Tech?
Title: Re: Quick Lane Bowl: Minnesota (6-6) vs. Georgia Tech (7-5)
Post by: Cincydawg on December 03, 2018, 04:23:09 PM
I hate watching that option unless we're blowing it up in the backfield on nearly every play.

Title: Re: Quick Lane Bowl: Minnesota (6-6) vs. Georgia Tech (7-5)
Post by: FearlessF on December 03, 2018, 04:58:22 PM
you must be from SEC country
Title: Re: Quick Lane Bowl: Minnesota (6-6) vs. Georgia Tech (7-5)
Post by: Cincydawg on December 03, 2018, 06:55:30 PM
you must be from SEC country
I know polenta ain't grits.
Title: Re: Quick Lane Bowl: Minnesota (6-6) vs. Georgia Tech (7-5)
Post by: FearlessF on December 03, 2018, 07:14:32 PM
quite a bit of Wishbone and triple option in the SEC in the 70s
Title: Re: Quick Lane Bowl: Minnesota (6-6) vs. Georgia Tech (7-5)
Post by: Cincydawg on December 04, 2018, 04:13:27 PM
This is a very odd form of any option, sometimes call the spread option, which is really isn't in my view either.  They don't run that many plays.  Johnson doesn't even have a play sheet, he just calls them from memory, and they pretty much all look the same to me, left or right.

The cut and roll blocks have always annoyed me and I hoped we could survive with no injuries.
Title: Re: Quick Lane Bowl: Minnesota (6-6) vs. Georgia Tech (7-5)
Post by: FearlessF on December 04, 2018, 09:10:57 PM
cut and roll blocks until deemed otherwise are football moves

I really do understand your survival issues

defenders aren't coached or practiced to play against the option

doesn't mean it's illegal or dirty
Title: Re: Quick Lane Bowl: Minnesota (6-6) vs. Georgia Tech (7-5)
Post by: bayareabadger on December 05, 2018, 07:56:37 AM
This is a very odd form of any option, sometimes call the spread option, which is really isn't in my view either.  They don't run that many plays.  Johnson doesn't even have a play sheet, he just calls them from memory, and they pretty much all look the same to me, left or right.

The cut and roll blocks have always annoyed me and I hoped we could survive with no injuries.
It’s a kind of spread option becuase the pass game is built on the old run-and-shoot. It just takes the slot receivers and puts them on the hips of the tackles to make them slot backs. 
As for having many plays, their run game is easily more complex than most. The majority of schools base out of 3-5 concepts, with a smattering of change-ups. Tech runs a few more than that. Their pass game is obviously more parred down, though I’d assume they have the ability to go with more, but it’s just not needed (the dirty little secret is teams go into games with more scaled-down packages than we think).
Anyway, the cut blocks are a thing. They’re in almost every offense to a degree. Option teams have more, but it’s still football. Still a sport where every play involves collision after collision. 
Title: Re: Quick Lane Bowl: Minnesota (6-6) vs. Georgia Tech (7-5)
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 05, 2018, 08:04:35 AM
I know polenta ain't grits.
Nope. It's better.
Title: Re: Quick Lane Bowl: Minnesota (6-6) vs. Georgia Tech (7-5)
Post by: Cincydawg on December 05, 2018, 09:04:26 AM
Tech got called for one cut block "downfield" on a play.  Apparently they are now illegal after 3 yards from the LOS, or something like that.

Yes, it's legal football, but I view it as prone to causing injuries, and I hate seeing our defense playing against it.

Tech had a guy on a kick off clearly launch himself and cause helmet to helmet contact with a guy on coverage, it was the clearest case of that I've seen, he left his feet.  They reviewed it and found it not to be a foul.  Our guy was down.  Not a cut block of course, but that rule is bizarrely enforced.  Then the Tech player was jumping up and down on the sideline in celebration after it was ruled no foul for about a minute exhorting his team.  I think the score was 31-7, and our kickoffs usually go for TB anyway, as did this one.  There was zero reason for that other than to injure a player, which he did.

IMHO, Tech DOES play dirty, intentionally, they can't compete, so they try and hurt defenders however they can.

I would stop scheduling them forever were I the HMFIC.

I hope Minny stomps them good.  With the weeks of prep time, they should be able to defeat their gimmicky offense.
Title: Re: Quick Lane Bowl: Minnesota (6-6) vs. Georgia Tech (7-5)
Post by: bayareabadger on December 05, 2018, 10:34:07 AM
Tech had a guy on a kick off clearly launch himself and cause helmet to helmet contact with a guy on coverage, it was the clearest case of that I've seen, he left his feet.  They reviewed it and found it not to be a foul.  Our guy was down.  Not a cut block of course, but that rule is bizarrely enforced.  Then the Tech player was jumping up and down on the sideline in celebration after it was ruled no foul for about a minute exhorting his team.  I think the score was 31-7, and our kickoffs usually go for TB anyway, as did this one.  There was zero reason for that other than to injure a player, which he did.

IMHO, Tech DOES play dirty, intentionally, they can't compete, so they try and hurt defenders however they can.
Must be it. 
Title: Re: Quick Lane Bowl: Minnesota (6-6) vs. Georgia Tech (7-5)
Post by: iahawk15 on December 05, 2018, 04:38:28 PM
cut and roll blocks until deemed otherwise are football moves

I really do understand your survival issues

defenders aren't coached or practiced to play against the option

doesn't mean it's illegal or dirty
You and Old Man Ferentz would get along swimmingly. He had some hilarious rants on cut block officiating this year.
Title: Re: Quick Lane Bowl: Minnesota (6-6) vs. Georgia Tech (7-5)
Post by: iahawk15 on December 05, 2018, 04:40:50 PM


Yes, it's legal football, but I view it as prone to causing injuries, and I hate seeing our defense playing against it.


I'd be interested in looking at the relationship between cut block injuries and other football move injuries. My guess is that it's way down the list, but I don't know where the statistics could be found.