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Title: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Mdot21 on October 23, 2018, 11:11:08 AM
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Bobby Petrino is officially OUT as the Head Coach of Louisville Football, effective immediately, following his 2-5 start and failure to uphold values to the school and ethical standards. (Insider sources have confirmed with Daniel Bird on his walk to the SAC this morning)


Wow. Makes me think they are going all in on Brohm. Only reason they do this right now imo.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: FearlessF on October 23, 2018, 11:14:10 AM
that would suck
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Mdot21 on October 23, 2018, 11:27:07 AM
that would suck
it would really suck for Purdue and the conference. He looks like a really good coach who is building something at a place that had been maybe the worst program in the P5.
Louisville is home though. He's from the area, was a star HS player there, went to college and played there, his father was a QB there, his brothers went to college there, he coached there for 5 years as an assistant as well.
If he's offered that job, which he will be, I bet he takes it.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MaximumSam on October 23, 2018, 11:30:34 AM
I'm interested in what values and ethical standards Louisville has that Petrino broke.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: FearlessF on October 23, 2018, 11:31:50 AM
yup, I like the idea of a strong Purdue in the West

I also like the idea of a scumbag like Petrino getting the boot

I would hope Purdue could at least match the money offered from Louisville and have a chance to keep Brohm.

I'm hoping Brohm would hold out for a great job at a helmet school instead of a crap football school like Louisville
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Mdot21 on October 23, 2018, 11:39:39 AM
well, looks like it was a false report. fake twitter account. not fired. yet.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 23, 2018, 11:52:10 AM
I'm interested in what values and ethical standards Louisville has that Petrino broke.
Spit out some coffee on that one pal.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 23, 2018, 11:56:31 AM
well, looks like it was a false report. fake twitter account. not fired. yet.
Fake News? 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on October 23, 2018, 11:58:00 AM
I'm interested in what values and ethical standards Louisville has that Petrino broke.
Yeah, that well could just be verbiage, if this really were real from the UL.
I know the ACC felt pressure to find a 14th program quickly, but I think they erred.
I'd rather coach at Purdue even knowing I might not be able to recruit the same players as at UL.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Hawkinole on October 23, 2018, 12:12:39 PM
Louisville is one of the most depressing God-forsaken cities I have traveled to - spent two weekends separated by about 5-years there.

University of Louisville is a step down from Purdue.  

While Louisville invested in its football program the past decade or so, it sounds like Louisville fan crazy-talk to me. Petrino has produced results at Louisville. They rehired him notwithstanding his personal issues at Arkansas. I can't see it; they'd have to have some very serious breach of the morals clause, and a consensual extramarital affair, if that's what the fan hope and fan talk is about, doesn't cut it.

Reportedly the buyout for the head coach alone, is about $14M. Where would they find that money, and money to pay Jeff Brohm. This is entirely silly, to me.
https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/10/10/louisville-booster-says-school-doesnt-have-the-money-to-buy-out-bobby-petrino-right-now/ (https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/10/10/louisville-booster-says-school-doesnt-have-the-money-to-buy-out-bobby-petrino-right-now/)
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MaximumSam on October 23, 2018, 12:22:22 PM
Fake News?
It is Fake News, though probably born out of a bunch of message board rumors that Petrino is in trouble
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on October 23, 2018, 12:24:17 PM
We used to visit Laville some back in the day, at times because air fare used to be a lot cheaper than out of CVG.  We found some nice restaurants there.  The downtown area was a bit mundane I thought.  The Seelbach Hotel was interesting.  I thought the riverfront was underdeveloped, or we missed seeing the part that was.  Traffic was bad.

I don't imagine it is any worse than Lay Flat, Indiana.

Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 23, 2018, 12:27:00 PM
Honestly, losing a coach before he hits his full potential sucks. Equally true, though: Purdue should feel glad at least that Brohm isn't at Tennessee this season. For a time, they seemed poised to pick Brohm. No doubt that was a disaster of a search that waffled over a monstrous lists of candidates. But still. There's more than one universe in which Brohm never even made it to Purdue Year 2.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 23, 2018, 12:29:13 PM
From Lay Flat you can visit Chicago or Indy very easily, which is kinda nice.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 23, 2018, 12:30:20 PM
Honestly, losing a coach before he hits his full potential sucks. Equally true, though: Purdue should feel glad at least that Brohm isn't at Tennessee this season. For a time, they seemed poised to pick Brohm. No doubt that was a disaster of a search that waffled over a monstrous lists of candidates. But still. There's more than one universe in which Brohm never even made it to Purdue Year 2.
Maybe Lou Vull can hire PJ Barnum. Row the Boat and shit.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on October 23, 2018, 12:38:22 PM
I would love to see a coach like him stay put at a "lesser program" to see what he can do over time.

Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Hawkinole on October 23, 2018, 12:43:41 PM
I would love to see a coach like him stay put at a "lesser program" to see what he can do over time.


Sort of like Hayden Fry and Kirk Ferentz to Iowa? And, Barry Alvarez to Wisconsin?

Maybe Lou Vull can hire PJ Barnum. Row the Boat and shit.

I would guess Minnesota fans would be appreciative.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 23, 2018, 12:51:18 PM
I dunno. Lots of them still seem to be buying the snake oil. I'm sure the posters here aren't.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 23, 2018, 12:56:37 PM
Maybe Lou Vull can hire PJ Barnum. Row the Boat and shit.
I like him but know you don't. Respect his teaching philosophy. I don't think he's losing because of his style. And believe he'll turn it around to at least the Glen Mason level if they give him 6-10 years. 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 23, 2018, 01:00:59 PM
Last year was year zero (his words). Now he's in 0.1. So you're talking about giving him 60-100 years to turn it around. Sounds doable.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: iahawk15 on October 23, 2018, 01:23:16 PM
Last year was year zero (his words). Now he's in 0.1. So you're talking about giving him 60-100 years to turn it around. Sounds doable.
I'm surprised the mantra for this year isn't "Still in beta!"
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: rolltidefan on October 23, 2018, 01:25:36 PM
i read headline, and txt some friends before reading thread. (https://www.cfb51.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reactiongifs.com%2Fr%2Fllaf.gif&hash=04ce07b0bc129d38b566cf3e901ae514)
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Mdot21 on October 23, 2018, 01:42:08 PM
lots of smoke about Petrino being in some kind of trouble off field on the Louisville message boards. Sounds like that’s where this fake news tweet is coming from. There’s no doubt he’s on thin ice after last season and this season. Maybe the rumors are just wishful thinking on the part of some overzealous fans. Who really knows. 

Brohm is building something at Purdue. I’d hate to see him leave. The conference needs a competitive West. I also think that Louisville is probably the one job he’d bolt for. We can all have our opinions on the city or the school- but the only one that matters is his. And Louisville is home for him. Hard for anyone to turn that down. Like the great Bear Bryant said, when Momma comes calling, you come.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 23, 2018, 02:03:09 PM
If Brohm and Frost can catch up to UW and Iowa, and UW and Iowa can take another step, I'd be very happy.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on October 23, 2018, 02:07:41 PM
I noted preseason that Purdue was one of the teams I was interested in watching this year.  The start was of course rough unless you view close losses as a good sign.

I also was interested in FSU, kind of the reverse situation really.  They surprised me on the downside a bit.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MrNubbz on October 23, 2018, 02:09:06 PM
I'm interested in what values and ethical standards Louisville has that Petrino broke.
Petrino/Pitino whatever
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on October 23, 2018, 02:35:53 PM
There are a lot of schools in the ACC with city names.  I can't think off hand of another P5 conference like that.

Boise State of course, not P5.

Rutgers is not a city name.  Clemson is, Laville, Syracuse, Pitt, BC, Miami, Wake Forest (though it's not in Wake Forest any more) ...

Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: HailHailMSP on October 23, 2018, 02:40:43 PM
From afar I don't feel like Louisville is that much better of a job. Brohm can do more at Purdue. And if he does more at Purdue he will get better offers than Louisville. 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MarqHusker on October 23, 2018, 02:50:31 PM
Louisville is a lot more interesting city now than it used to be.  I've seen marked improvements over the past 20+ yrs.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 23, 2018, 03:11:59 PM
If Brohm and Frost can catch up to UW and Iowa, and UW and Iowa can take another step, I'd be very happy.
Me too. I don't think that's how it usually works, though. My feel is that teams generally leap frog one another, rather than have an entire division inchworm forward while staying in the same order.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MarqHusker on October 23, 2018, 03:17:17 PM
I always spelled it Luvl.   Hard to decide which hoops program I despised more in my formative years, Luvl or Cincy.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on October 23, 2018, 03:40:31 PM
I don't know that a program like Purdue can collect enough talent to have the depth needed at high levels these days.

A lot of talented teams are great when healthy, but they have 3-4 injuries and 3-4 players playing dinged and ...


Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MrNubbz on October 23, 2018, 03:45:29 PM
Boilers/Hoosiers are in a tough spot recruiting wise between ND/UM/tOSU/MSU/UW.Of course you wouldn't have known it Saturday Nite
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 23, 2018, 05:41:22 PM
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Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 23, 2018, 06:54:56 PM
Spit out some coffee on that one pal.
That cracked me up too!
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: HailHailMSP on October 23, 2018, 09:36:00 PM
I like him but know you don't. Respect his teaching philosophy. I don't think he's losing because of his style. And believe he'll turn it around to at least the Glen Mason level if they give him 6-10 years.
I’m still of this mindset as well. Every school has injuries, but PJ lost his most dynamic athlete on each side of the football this year going into conference play. Unlike big time programs there aren’t others to fill those gaps. 
They had a lineman beloved by the team suddenly pass away from cancer this fall too. That takes a toll on a team.
I think they finally have a QB that could develop into a competent B1G QB too. 
PJ’s style isn’t for everybody, but it is authentic. He’s got a motor on him that doesn’t stop. He needs to beef up his offensive staff though. I don’t see in game brilliance from him. A poor man’s James Franklin. 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Hawkinole on October 24, 2018, 12:28:24 AM
Good to see some old Purdue posters are back.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on October 24, 2018, 07:55:26 AM
Nothing like winning to get posters back posting.

Nothing like losing to send some scurrying away.

Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: TyphonInc on October 24, 2018, 08:10:11 AM
Fake News?
Speaking of fake news, everyone see 1.8 million Tweets Clemson University found sent out by Russian Bots?
http://pwarren.people.clemson.edu/Linvill_Warren_TrollFactory.pdf
Right Troll (617 handles, 663,740 tweets
Left Troll (230 handles, 405,549 tweets
News Feed (54 handles, 567,846 tweets
Hashtag Gamer (110 handles, 216,895 tweets
Fearmonger (122 handles, 10,161 tweets
Mods feel free to place this where it needs to be.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: bayareabadger on October 24, 2018, 08:16:51 AM
Might make sense to change thread title. 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: FearlessF on October 24, 2018, 09:35:43 AM
I don't know that a program like Purdue can collect enough talent to have the depth needed at high levels these days.

A lot of talented teams are great when healthy, but they have 3-4 injuries and 3-4 players playing dinged and ...



fair, but after just two seasons he's really upgraded the talent
interesting to see if he gets 5-6 years what the roster and 2-deep will look like, especially if he'd get through the non-con sched w/o a loss
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 24, 2018, 10:11:59 AM
Might make sense to change thread title.
I think @ELA (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=55)  should merge it with the completely and totally OT stream of unconsciousness, but I'll defer to him.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 24, 2018, 02:37:55 PM
fair, but after just two seasons he's really upgraded the talent
Not really, actually... Outside of Rondale Moore, I think most of the starters are Hazell holdovers. Even the 2017 recruiting class was *mostly* Hazell's, as it's always difficult for a brand new coach to consider that first class 100% their own.
Even so, the 2017 class had zero 4* players and was ranked 72nd nationally and 14th in the BIG. 
The 2019 class is Brohm's first real upgrade of talent, where we're starting to get players that we'd never have had a shot at before. 
There were some good players in that 2018 class, but the only "instant impact" guy was Moore. If you look at the 2018 commit list, he's really the only one who saw the field:
https://247sports.com/college/purdue/Season/2018-Football/Commits/
The 2017 class has a lot more players seeing the field, but the highest you can really call any of them would be a mid-3*, and there are a few 2* players that are starting. 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 24, 2018, 02:51:07 PM
STARZ and talent don't always mesh.



Jonathan Taylor was a 3* with not a lot of offers, and now he's probably the best running back in the country. There are lots more examples. Just look at your own team.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 24, 2018, 03:18:43 PM
STARZ and talent don't always mesh.

Jonathan Taylor was a 3* with not a lot of offers, and now he's probably the best running back in the country. There are lots more examples. Just look at your own team.
Agreed, but it is quite often a proxy. And for 4 years, Purdue consistently ranked at the bottom of the B1G in STARZ. I find it hard to believe that Hazell was exceptional at finding diamonds in the rough but just couldn't coach them, and that this team is light-years more talented than the recruiting services suggest. Purdue's recent NFL draft results also don't suggest that we've found boatloads of underrated kids in HS who were bursting with talent that just escaped notice.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on October 24, 2018, 03:20:19 PM
There is a strong correlation between STARZ and how players perform in college, and later.

Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: ELA on October 24, 2018, 03:30:37 PM
I think @ELA (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=55)  should merge it with the completely and totally OT stream of unconsciousness, but I'll defer to him.
Let's be honest, we'll need it at some point.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 24, 2018, 03:40:39 PM
There is a strong correlation between STARZ and how players perform in college, and later.
No doubt. Though I think we can safely argue that, given Wisconsin's in-state crew of cornfed Polacks**, and how they are relatively insulated from the recruiting services (whether they commit early or not, are easily underrated), [and not to mention the fact that the Badgers football program is wildly stable, still essentially running Alvarez's way, and free to redshirt almost everyone] that no team is more insulated from that STARZ-to-results correlation like UW.
For a few years, MSU was insulated from that correlation, too. Which I think is interesting: We've come to think of Dantonio as an elite developer of talent. But I think - for a limited while - that he was actually far more elite as a talent identifier. My years could be slightly off, but I'm thinking of the teams from ~2012-2015. The NFL drafts before and after this period were not nearly as kind to his NR/2* kids as they were during that period.

**(don't be an offended if you're Polish; as my dad says when he looks at my bar "But really, what are you doing with Absinthe and bitters - Did you forget you're a Polack from Detroit!?")
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 24, 2018, 03:47:23 PM
There is a strong correlation between STARZ and how players perform in college, and later.


Sure there is, at some places. Clemson was knocking it out of the park in recruiting STARZ in 2012, but they did some damn good things on the field in the 2-7 years since. Ya still need great coaching to make the kids go. I'm not sure Clemson has ever outranked FSU (or Miami?) in recruiting.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: FearlessF on October 24, 2018, 03:48:54 PM
Not really, actually... Outside of Rondale Moore, I think most of the starters are Hazell holdovers. Even the 2017 recruiting class was *mostly* Hazell's, as it's always difficult for a brand new coach to consider that first class 100% their own.
sorry, I thought it was a very young team similar to Nebraska when they played.  Young guys, but maybe not Brohm's recruits?
WR - jared Sparks soph
OL - Grant Hermanns soph
WRs - Moore frosh & Anthrop soph
DE - Reviere R-frosh
DT - Watts soph
LBs - Jones & Barnes soph
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on October 24, 2018, 03:50:22 PM
There is a strong and general and broad correlation between STARZ and success on the field.

Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: FearlessF on October 24, 2018, 03:50:40 PM
No doubt. Though I think we can safely argue that, given Wisconsin's in-state crew of cornfed Polacks**, and how they are relatively insulated from the recruiting services (whether they commit early or not, are easily underrated), [and not to mention the fact that the Badgers football program is wildly stable, still essentially running Alvarez's way, and free to redshirt almost everyone] that no team is more insulated from that STARZ-to-results correlation like UW.
For a few years, MSU was insulated from that correlation, too. Which I think is interesting: We've come to think of Dantonio as an elite developer of talent. But I think - for a limited while - that he was actually far more elite as a talent identifier. My years could be slightly off, but I'm thinking of the teams from ~2012-2015. The NFL drafts before and after this period were not nearly as kind to his NR/2* kids as they were during that period.

**(don't be an offended if you're Polish; as my dad says when he looks at my bar "But really, what are you doing with Absinthe and bitters - Did you forget you're a Polack from Detroit!?")
add Iowa to this list
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: FearlessF on October 24, 2018, 03:52:01 PM
There is a strong and general and broad correlation between STARZ and success on the field.


true and then there are outliers
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 24, 2018, 03:52:41 PM
No doubt. Though I think we can safely argue that, given Wisconsin's in-state crew of cornfed Polacks**, and how they are relatively insulated from the recruiting services (whether they commit early or not, are easily underrated), [and not to mention the fact that the Badgers football program is wildly stable, still essentially running Alvarez's way, and free to redshirt almost everyone] that no team is more insulated from that STARZ-to-results correlation like UW.
For a few years, MSU was insulated from that correlation, too. Which I think is interesting: We've come to think of Dantonio as an elite developer of talent. But I think - for a limited while - that he was actually far more elite as a talent identifier. My years could be slightly off, but I'm thinking of the teams from ~2012-2015. The NFL drafts before and after this period were not nearly as kind to his NR/2* kids as they were during that period.

**(don't be an offended if you're Polish; as my dad says when he looks at my bar "But really, what are you doing with Absinthe and bitters - Did you forget you're a Polack from Detroit!?")
Except that Wisconsin is made up of 45% German descent and 10% Polish. Other than that... Heh.

Iowa is another that gets more out of less. Northwestern too.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: FearlessF on October 24, 2018, 04:00:44 PM
Except that Wisconsin is made up of 45% German descent and 10% Polish. Other than that... Heh.

Iowa is another that gets more out of less. Northwestern too.
yah, but the O-line is 60% polish
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on October 24, 2018, 04:08:35 PM
true and then there are outliers
Of course there are.  No correlation has an r squared of 1.00.  That is the basis of statistics, and why I value statistics over anecdotes.
Well, Billy Bob was a 2 star and an AA.  So what?  That does not diminish the correlation (other than making it slightly less correlated).
I prefer statistics to anecdotes.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MrNubbz on October 24, 2018, 09:32:36 PM
"But really, what are you doing with Absinthe and bitters
You're yanking our proverbials - you don't.That's one hell of a Bohemian Elixir.I imagine you could keep it in the shed for your gas powered equipment as an additive.Not sure I'd even open it up in the house for fear the fumes may waft over to the furnace flame
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 25, 2018, 07:12:59 AM
yah, but the O-line is 60% polish
I'm honestly not sure what Van Lanen, Deiter, Biadasz, Benzschawel and Edwards are ethnic-wise, but they are only 60 percent Wisconsin. Deiter is from Ohio and Edwards is from Illinois. I'm guessing one of the guys is Polish.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Temp430 on October 25, 2018, 07:20:58 AM
Dutch, German, Polish, German, and English would be my guess.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 25, 2018, 07:47:13 AM
Me too.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: FearlessF on October 25, 2018, 09:04:12 AM
just stirring the pot...........

Petrino still has a job?
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 25, 2018, 10:23:29 AM
I'm honestly not sure what Van Lanen, Deiter, Biadasz, Benzschawel and Edwards are ethnic-wise, but they are only 60 percent Wisconsin. Deiter is from Ohio and Edwards is from Illinois. I'm guessing one of the guys is Polish.
There's always one.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 25, 2018, 12:58:31 PM
sorry, I thought it was a very young team similar to Nebraska when they played.  Young guys, but maybe not Brohm's recruits?
WR - jared Sparks soph
OL - Grant Hermanns soph
WRs - Moore frosh & Anthrop soph
DE - Reviere R-frosh
DT - Watts soph
LBs - Jones & Barnes soph

From the below list (including all that you mentioned, plus I added all the 2017 commits that I've seen on the field), you can see what the recruits really look like.
The only high-value recruits were Moore (2018) and maybe Zico (2017). There are a lot of 2017 guys playing, but they're generally low 3* or high 2*. And a number of the ones you identified are listed as sophomore, but they're RS-soph and were 2016 recruits that were 100% Hazell. 

Then you look at the actual class rankings and average ratings. You see that the 2017 class was not good. Yes, some of them were probably more swayed by Brohm than holdovers from Hazell, but it's not like he brought in some stellar class in 2017. The 2018 class was a significant jump, but as stated the only guy who really sees the field is Moore. 

2016: B1G Rank of 14th, national 80, avg 0.8113 rating
2017: B1G Rank of 14th, national 72, avg 0.8188 rating
2018: B1G Rank of 11th, national 51, avg 0.8469 rating
2019: B1G Rank of 5th, national 25th, avg 0.8605 rating

So I agree it's a young team, but not comparable to Nebraska's young teams. Nebraska was 4th in the B1G in 2018, with an 0.8719 average rating [higher than even Purdue's 2019 class], and the Riley class of 2017 was 5th in the B1G, with an average rating of 0.8781. 2015 and 2016 were both above 0.8600 average.

So Nebraska should be fielding a more talented team, top to bottom, than Purdue, despite the fact that Frost has emphasized the younger players.  
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MrNubbz on October 25, 2018, 02:08:48 PM
 Nobody can put away food without becoming roundly sloppy like a Dudek. We have a little of that Mike Onwenu gene.
Is that your last name Dudek?Thought your name on the other board was more of Dude-K,like the name of a character on a popular series that I always seem to ignore or miss
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 25, 2018, 02:18:29 PM
Is that your last name Dudek?Thought your name on the other board was more of Dude-K,like the name of a character on a popular series that I always seem to ignore or miss
Yup. Last name. One of the few Polish ones that doesn't end in -ski. On the old site, I wanted to stay C.I.M.H., but when we merged with scout, I already had an account with an unoriginal screenname and just went with it.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 25, 2018, 02:25:30 PM
My last name is badgerfan. For some reason my family never used capital letters, and only used numbers for first names.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MrNubbz on October 25, 2018, 02:28:10 PM
I remember Carrismyhomeboy but wasn't sure how you abbreviated it kept thinking C.M.H.B.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MrNubbz on October 25, 2018, 02:31:04 PM
My last name is badgerfan. For some reason my family never used capital letters, and only used numbers for first names.
Is 847 your cholesterol count?
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 25, 2018, 02:34:42 PM
My last name is badgerfan. For some reason my family never used capital letters, and only used numbers for first names.
Where's that [rolling laughing emoticon] we used to have on the original-original board when you really need it?
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 25, 2018, 02:35:03 PM
Nubbz: HA!
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 25, 2018, 03:19:57 PM
Yup. Last name. One of the few Polish ones that doesn't end in -ski. On the old site, I wanted to stay C.I.M.H., but when we merged with scout, I already had an account with an unoriginal screenname and just went with it.
Mine is the same. Polish name that doesn't end in -ski. 
Very few people have ever picked up on it being Polish. 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MrNubbz on October 25, 2018, 03:38:15 PM
Mine is the same. Polish name that doesn't end in -ski.
Very few people have ever picked up on it being Polish.
What was the name of that blog you had?Insolent Slut or sumsuch
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 25, 2018, 04:34:03 PM
What was the name of that blog you had?Insolent Slut or sumsuch
LOL... Unrepentant Individual... Actually took it down completely a while back. 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: FearlessF on October 25, 2018, 05:53:13 PM
Is 847 your cholesterol count?
it's his credit score
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: CatsbyAZ on October 26, 2018, 05:40:04 PM
just stirring the pot...........

Petrino still has a job?
Should I be surprised how dismissively quick the tide has turned on Petrino? Should there have ever been a tide to turn in the first place? His second go at Louisville has been very underrated - IMO - going 34-18 leading into this season. This second tenure after bringing Louisville from Conf USA to the Big East and into a more competitive ACC. This is his first soon to be losing season and his worst detractors are the home town fans he’s given the most team success to.
On the other hand it’s a given his hometown detractors wouldn’t be so vocal if sights weren’t so strongly set on finding any excuse to bring in Brohm.
Anyway, down with the Louisville fanbase - a group generally dumber than the rest.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on October 27, 2018, 06:14:31 AM
A coach with a "checkered past" has to win more to be tolerated than one without.

This is an example of a decent team with a great college QB who can upset or just beat other teams with said QB, but not so much without.

Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 27, 2018, 01:50:16 PM
it's his credit score
Pretty close. I'm only at 832 right now. Pisses me off.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MaximumSam on November 11, 2018, 11:20:35 AM
Ok but for real this time
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on November 11, 2018, 11:38:11 AM
My UNC friends are pondering the future of Fedora down there.  It's hard to believe he would be retained, except for his buyout of course.  That program is so bad folks forgot it even exists.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MaximumSam on November 11, 2018, 01:21:33 PM
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Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 11, 2018, 01:26:45 PM
Mine is the same. Polish name that doesn't end in -ski.
Very few people have ever picked up on it being Polish.
Warbianski? 
I like it. 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Mdot21 on November 11, 2018, 02:06:02 PM
He gone now. Pat Forde of Yahoo Sports is reporting Petrino was fired today. 

Brohm to Louisville countdown starts.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 11, 2018, 04:01:29 PM
Why was he such a colossal failure at Louisville this time around? 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Anonymous Coward on November 11, 2018, 04:45:07 PM
Why was he such a colossal failure at Louisville this time around?
I haven't followed to know if this happened, but I'd have expected him to have recruiting issues given his wounded reputation.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MaximumSam on November 11, 2018, 04:56:47 PM
Why was he such a colossal failure at Louisville this time around?
He hired Brian Vangorder as his defensive Coordinator. Dude almost got Brian Kelly fired at ND
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: CatsbyAZ on November 11, 2018, 06:42:03 PM
Why was he such a colossal failure at Louisville this time around?
That’s the thing - save for this disaster of a season Petrino’s 2nd stint really wasn’t a failure. Not only did he average 8.5 wins/yr, he’s the godfather of growing the Louisville program from C-USA to the Big East to the ACC, and yet in these reactionary times for CFB the Louisville crowd only waited a moment after realizing the recruiting and coordinator situations to turn on him.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Mdot21 on November 12, 2018, 11:32:56 AM
That’s the thing - save for this disaster of a season Petrino’s 2nd stint really wasn’t a failure. Not only did he average 8.5 wins/yr, he’s the godfather of growing the Louisville program from C-USA to the Big East to the ACC, and yet in these reactionary times for CFB the Louisville crowd only waited a moment after realizing the recruiting and coordinator situations to turn on him.
they fired him because they want Brohm imo.
Michigan fans should hope Brohm takes the job. Michigan "insider" Sam Webb said on his radio show today that if Brohm goes to Louisville, 5* DL George Karlafatis- a Purdue commit from the state of Indiana- will be going to Michigan. Sam stated it basically as fact. He doesn't really do stuff like that unless he knows something.
Brohm going to Louisville would basically hand deliver a 5* DL recruit to Michigan.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Entropy on November 12, 2018, 12:56:11 PM
I hope he stays in the BIG.  If I'm purdue, I'm giving $$$ to keep him.   The west is wide open and he's building something.   Frankly, Purdue should be able to outspend Louisville.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Entropy on November 12, 2018, 12:57:39 PM
That’s the thing - save for this disaster of a season Petrino’s 2nd stint really wasn’t a failure. Not only did he average 8.5 wins/yr, he’s the godfather of growing the Louisville program from C-USA to the Big East to the ACC, and yet in these reactionary times for CFB the Louisville crowd only waited a moment after realizing the recruiting and coordinator situations to turn on him.
It makes me believe that internally... not everyone agreed with Petrino coming back.   This season is being used to justify those feelings.   
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Entropy on November 12, 2018, 01:02:18 PM
btw.. if I'm Brohm... I am leveraging this for $$$$.   Flirt enough to get Purdue to give more money for the entire staff, but not enough to hurt recruiting or damage relationships.   Meaning, don't drag this on for months...

Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 12, 2018, 01:07:10 PM
I hope he stays in the BIG.  If I'm purdue, I'm giving $$$ to keep him.   The west is wide open and he's building something.   Frankly, Purdue should be able to outspend Louisville.
Money won't keep him, if he wants to go. Louisville is home. 
Not that I disagree, however. I'd love to see Purdue give him a raise [and devote more money to assistant budgets] in order to show how much we appreciate him reviving our program and that we believe he's worth it. 
But money won't keep Jeff Brohm. Honestly I don't think money is that important to him. He's still driving the same 2004 Honda Accord 2 years into the Purdue job. Money helps, but the decision will ultimately be whether he wants to take on the Louisville job right now. 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 12, 2018, 01:09:03 PM
Michigan fans should hope Brohm takes the job. Michigan "insider" Sam Webb said on his radio show today that if Brohm goes to Louisville, 5* DL George Karlafatis- a Purdue commit from the state of Indiana- will be going to Michigan. Sam stated it basically as fact. He doesn't really do stuff like that unless he knows something.
Well, that "hot take" isn't exactly a shock. Nobody thinks we could hang on to GK without Brohm, and Michigan is the #1 suitor trying to take him away from us.
With Brohm, I think GK is solid to Purdue. He's been actively recruiting other guys through social media. He seems a lock and won't be flipped at the last minute--as long as we keep Brohm.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Entropy on November 12, 2018, 01:46:23 PM
Money won't keep him, if he wants to go. Louisville is home.
Not that I disagree, however. I'd love to see Purdue give him a raise [and devote more money to assistant budgets] in order to show how much we appreciate him reviving our program and that we believe he's worth it.
But money won't keep Jeff Brohm. Honestly I don't think money is that important to him. He's still driving the same 2004 Honda Accord 2 years into the Purdue job. Money helps, but the decision will ultimately be whether he wants to take on the Louisville job right now.
from a distance he seems to be a HC who cares as much about his assistants as anything else.   I'd guess that would be important to him.   


Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Mdot21 on November 12, 2018, 02:25:04 PM
from a distance he seems to be a HC who cares as much about his assistants as anything else.   I'd guess that would be important to him.  
at the end of the day, Louisville is home and Purdue isn't.
Brohm grew up in Louisville and was a star HS QB at Louisville Trinity HS. His father played college ball at Louisville, he played his college ball at Louisville, his brothers played their college ball at Louisville. His first head coaching job was for a Louisville arena league team. His first college coaching job was at Louisville. His first college head coaching job was at WKU- just a stones throw away from Louisville.
I think Louisville made the decision to dump Petrino right now in order to go all in on Brohm. That's the only reason they made the move right now imo.
I think it's going to be really hard for him to say no to going home.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on November 13, 2018, 07:50:50 AM
Whether he goes or not could depend on his view of the current LV administration.  He might not be so enamored with them as one might think, and that matters, probably more than money.  I presume he is getting paid well at Purdue now, so maybe he goes from $2.5 mil to $6 mil or whatever, it might not be enough to compensate, perhaps maybe.

Or maybe they are thick as thieves and go hunting together, no idea.  And if they hire someone else, there is a good change the position becomes open again in 4 years and in the mean time he might have built something notable at Purdue and be getting offers from "real programs" like even an Alabama.  I don't know what CB wants from coaching.  There is an inherent limit at Purdue and LV both.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 13, 2018, 07:54:53 AM
at the end of the day, Louisville is home and Purdue isn't.
Brohm grew up in Louisville and was a star HS QB at Louisville Trinity HS. His father played college ball at Louisville, he played his college ball at Louisville, his brothers played their college ball at Louisville. His first head coaching job was for a Louisville arena league team. His first college coaching job was at Louisville. His first college head coaching job was at WKU- just a stones throw away from Louisville.
I think Louisville made the decision to dump Petrino right now in order to go all in on Brohm. That's the only reason they made the move right now imo.
I think it's going to be really hard for him to say no to going home.

You must have one hell of an arm if you can throw a stone 122 miles. 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 13, 2018, 12:26:02 PM
Whether he goes or not could depend on his view of the current LV administration.  He might not be so enamored with them as one might think, and that matters, probably more than money.  I presume he is getting paid well at Purdue now, so maybe he goes from $2.5 mil to $6 mil or whatever, it might not be enough to compensate, perhaps maybe.
Brohm is making over $4M guaranteed on a 7-year deal (https://www.jconline.com/story/sports/college/purdue/football/2018/04/26/purdue-football-coach-jeff-brohm-receives-two-year-contract-extension/552018002/). It looks like it's backloaded somewhat, only $3.8M this year and increasing each year, but it's 7 years for $29M. 
Not sure what other incentives are there above the guaranteed base.
But Purdue definitely didn't cheap out on him. 
Again, for Brohm, I don't think the number matters. If he wants to go to Louisville, they could probably give him equal money to what Purdue is giving him. If he doesn't want to go, $6M IMHO won't do it. 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Entropy on November 13, 2018, 12:41:32 PM
Louisville also has all the buyouts to contend with... not saying they can't afford it, just that they are large.   

Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: FearlessF on November 13, 2018, 12:45:07 PM
home or not, Purdue and the Big Ten west would seem to be a better place to further your coaching career than Louisville
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on November 13, 2018, 01:19:04 PM
I suspect none of us know what his long range goals may be.  Perhaps he wants to build a program at Purdue to see high how us may be, a la Spurrier at South Carolina.  Maybe he wants to wait for a spot at a major program somewhere.  Maybe he wants to try the NFL.

Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: FearlessF on November 13, 2018, 02:42:19 PM
maybe he wants to be the next Bobby Petrino and follow the volleyball team
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: WhiskeyM on November 13, 2018, 04:51:54 PM
I think Louisville made the decision to dump Petrino right now in order to go all in on Brohm. That's the only reason they made the move right now imo.
Brohm is certainly Louisville's #1 target, however that is not why they fired Petrino during the season.
The Louisville AD even said he did not expect to have to make the decision so early.  The reason he was fired is because he had clearly lost the team.  It would have done more damage in the long run to let Petrino finish out the season.  Louisville peviously had 2 players put in for transfers out this year.  A few weeks ago 20 current players requested transfer paperwork.  The writing was on the wall.  Petrino had to go, no matter what.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Mdot21 on November 13, 2018, 05:00:50 PM
Brohm is certainly Louisville's #1 target, however that is not why they fired Petrino during the season.
The Louisville AD even said he did not expect to have to make the decision so early.  The reason he was fired is because he had clearly lost the team.  It would have done more damage in the long run to let Petrino find ish out the season.  Louisville peviously had 2 payers put in for transfer out thus year.  Af fw weeks ago 20 current players requested transfer paperwork.  The writing was on the wall.  Petrino had to go, no matter what.
Wow didn't know that about all the transfers.
I still think it doesn't make a lot of sense to fire him right now. Usually what happens is the AD gets fired first, the coach gets to finish the season, then a new AD gets hired and fires the coach and then a new coach gets hired. Even Brady Hoke and RichRod got to finish the season their last year at Michigan.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 13, 2018, 05:39:28 PM
Wow didn't know that about all the transfers.
I still think it doesn't make a lot of sense to fire him right now. Usually what happens is the AD gets fired first, the coach gets to finish the season, then a new AD gets hired and fires the coach and then a new coach gets hired. Even Brady Hoke and RichRod got to finish the season their last year at Michigan.
Didn't they already fire Jurich [AD]? 
It's not unheard of to fire a coach before the end of a season. Heck, Purdue did so with Hazell after 6 weeks, then had an interim for the final 6 weeks of the season.
But that was a case [similar to L'Ville IMHO] where it was the new AD that did the firing... I thought Jurich had already been replaced, so this would be the same deal. 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Anonymous Coward on November 13, 2018, 06:28:20 PM
I am only rumormongering here, just trying to make sense of a pattern and apply an explanation to make sense of it. There is AT LEAST a 50% chance I'm wrong, but I do wonder if Louisville and Brohm spoke last week. If they were set to fire Petrino no matter what and came to general agreement with Brohm, then that could explain both the blowout to Minnesota and the Petrino firing (with a "he lost the team" red herring inserted instead of the truth).
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: WhiskeyM on November 13, 2018, 06:42:09 PM
Brohm does not do business during the season.  He will not negotiate until after the regular season is over.  It was that way when he was hired at Purdue, and I highly doubt he changed his ethics.  He has integrity, and he will put his current job first.  If Louisville wants him, they will have to wait until after the IU game on 11/24/18 to talk with him.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Anonymous Coward on November 13, 2018, 06:44:24 PM
I hope you're right and it's not a testable theory anyway. No matter what, we'll never know for sure.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: WhiskeyM on November 13, 2018, 06:46:02 PM
Although, I did initially have the same exact thought after the Minnesota loss.  And it was a strange coincidence Petrino was fired the day after.  However, there is no way that 85 young men + a coaching staff keep a secret that long.  Something definitely would have leaked by now.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Anonymous Coward on November 13, 2018, 06:46:37 PM
Having said that only the "came to a general agreement with Brohm" line would constitute "doing business." Brohm could have picked up the phone, or voicemail, and heard things without compromising his coaching ethics.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Anonymous Coward on November 13, 2018, 06:49:44 PM
Although, I did initially have the same exact thought after the Minnesota loss.  And it was a strange coincidence Petrino was fired the day after.  However, there is no way that 85 young men + a coaching staff keep a secret that long.  Something definitely would have leaked by now.
That's fair. Even then, this baseless rumor doesn't assume anyone but Brohm knows. It only requires that "Brohm's head being in it" through the week and game matters **that much** that a Minnesota beat down or Purdue blowout are the outcomes in the balance.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: boilerbanger on November 13, 2018, 10:24:01 PM
FWIW … I don't think Brohm leaves, I think he is a good situation and I think he doesn't want to let down recruits that have been for max of 1-2 years with him.  I am hopeful he stays and maybe the hope has me seeing through the wrong lens, his recruits don't seemed concerned.  It will be interesting as it will be a few weeks before we know anymore info.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on November 14, 2018, 07:18:41 AM
It's a good thing that everyone here appears to think very highly of Brohm (including me, but I don't know that much about him), both as a coach and a person.

If I had a kid who was a 3 star at football and had high academics, Purdue would be a great choice for him I think if he were into engineering.

NW would be another very good choice as well on both counts, but playing football AND excelling at academics is tough, especially when the academics is not part of the usual jock stream of courses.

Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Entropy on November 14, 2018, 10:48:05 AM
I'd insist that my child give Purdue and Brohm a serious look...   Good school and an inventive mind as a coach.   Certainly would be on my short list as a parent.  
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Mdot21 on November 14, 2018, 10:50:43 AM
both are pretty tough jobs imo. Purdue might be a tad easier just because the division they are in looks a lot easier to me on paper than the division that Louisville is in.

Louisville is probably easier to recruit to and it has less academic restrictions. But it's also in the same division as Clemson and although Florida State stinks right now, they aren't going to stink forever. 

Not sure Louisville is a better job and if it is, it's not by much. Like everyone has been saying it will come down to whether or not Brohm wants to go home. Sometimes the pull of going home is too strong for people to overcome. Is Brohm the sentimental type? If he is, might just be too hard for him to say no to Louisville.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MrNubbz on November 14, 2018, 11:01:25 AM
Brohm is making over $4M guaranteed on a 7-year deal (https://www.jconline.com/story/sports/college/purdue/football/2018/04/26/purdue-football-coach-jeff-brohm-receives-two-year-contract-extension/552018002/). It looks like it's backloaded somewhat, only $3.8M this year 
I really can't figure how these poor souls squeek by
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Mdot21 on November 14, 2018, 11:04:47 AM
I really can't figure how these poor souls squeek by
I can't figure out how Brohm is making so much.
The guy has only ever been a head coach at WKU before his stop at Purdue, and his first year was a really nice 7 win season, but does that really merit a $4 million a year salary?
If he had won the B1G last year or this year, then fine, give him a fat extension and pay him $4 million a year. But that seems like an awful lot to pay a guy who has only won 7 games last year and then maybe 6 this year.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MrNubbz on November 14, 2018, 11:10:39 AM
Ya it's nuts but appears to be a good move though.Of course fans will get pissed if a kid sits out a bowl/play off game preparing for Sundays.I prolly won't attend another College game unless it's the Div.III locals.Prices have gone thru stratosphere 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Mdot21 on November 14, 2018, 11:13:13 AM
Ya it's nuts but appears to be a good move though.Of course fans will get pissed if a kid sits out a bowl/play off game preparing for Sundays.I prolly won't attend another College game unless it's the Div.III locals.Prices have gone thru stratosphere
with all the different camera angles and replays and slow-mo and DVR's to rewind- you are better off watching the game at home. you get a better view of things at home on your couch and you save a shit ton of money and a headache parking and walking into crowded areas and jam packing into a stadium with 100,000 other people.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: WhiskeyM on November 14, 2018, 11:34:08 AM
I can't figure out how Brohm is making so much.
The guy has only ever been a head coach at WKU before his stop at Purdue, and his first year was a really nice 7 win season, but does that really merit a $4 million a year salary?
I think he is worth every penny.  He completey turned Purdue around within the first year.  This article is a really good read on Brohm:
https://sports.yahoo.com/purdues-jeff-brohm-became-hottest-name-college-football-coaching-041333035.html
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 14, 2018, 12:33:45 PM
Purdue has probably more than made up for the $4 Mil in tickets alone. They actually have fans in the seats now, instead of having fans dressed up to look like seats.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on November 14, 2018, 12:45:13 PM
Let's imagine he's like to coach at an Ohio State/USC/Bama kind of program someday.

Is he better off staying at Purdue or going for more money at LV?

He might crash and burn at LV while at Purdue he seems able to generate bowl level teams anyway.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: ELA on November 14, 2018, 01:13:45 PM
Let's imagine he's like to coach at an Ohio State/USC/Bama kind of program someday.

Is he better off staying at Purdue or going for more money at LV?

He might crash and burn at LV while at Purdue he seems able to generate bowl level teams anyway.
That's a good point, if Louisville or Purdue is an end game, then he stays/leaves based on that.  If neither is, then IMO it makes the most sense for him to just stay.  He's a hell of a lot closer to a helmet offer now than if he leaves.  And it's not like rebuilding Louisville would be more impressive to those type of offers than doing it at Purdue.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 14, 2018, 01:52:08 PM
I think he is worth every penny.  He completey turned Purdue around within the first year.  This article is a really good read on Brohm
Agreed.
His on the field results have been great. His recruiting wasn't looking as strong going into 2018, but the 2019 class is currently 25th in the country. He's taking Hazell players and getting the best out of them, and then adding a guy like Rondale Moore has shown us that his ceiling with more talented players could be to challenge regularly for the B1G West.
There's a part of me that wonders how any coach is worth that kind of money, but if that's the price for quality, then Purdue might as well play ball.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: boilerbanger on November 14, 2018, 10:46:59 PM
Purdue has probably more than made up for the $4 Mil in tickets alone. They actually have fans in the seats now, instead of having fans dressed up to look like seats.


Pretty good guess there badge
$4.0 million
The estimated increased annual ticket sales revenue from 2018 to 2016. This is based on an estimated $25 average ticket price estimate in 2018 versus a $18 average ticket price estimate in 2018.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on November 15, 2018, 09:44:23 AM
I think his decision will let us know his future ambitions.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 15, 2018, 10:11:18 AM
I think his decision will let us know his future ambitions.
Maybe, maybe not. If he decides to stay with Purdue, it could mean a few things. The first one could be that he loves Purdue and plans to be the King Barry of West Lafayette. The others could be he is holding out for an Alabama to open up or he wants to coach in the NFL (I'm highly doubtful on this one).
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on November 15, 2018, 10:32:22 AM
Maybe he likes CURRENT Purdue players and/or administration, but that can change.  I tend to doubt he likes Lay Flat particularly.

I would be almost shocked if he stays at Purdue ten years.  
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 15, 2018, 05:49:58 PM
Maybe, maybe not. If he decides to stay with Purdue, it could mean a few things. The first one could be that he loves Purdue and plans to be the King Barry of West Lafayette. The others could be he is holding out for an Alabama to open up or he wants to coach in the NFL (I'm highly doubtful on this one).
I don't think he's a lifer at Purdue. 
I think he's started the rebuild, and he wants to prove he can complete it. But once the program has achieved what he set out to achieve, I could easily see him wanting to do something else. 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: WhiskeyM on November 15, 2018, 06:09:27 PM
I agree with BWar on that.  IIthink he stays at Purdue for somewhere around 3 more years  I also think his next stop will be the NFL.  Just a hunch.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 15, 2018, 06:40:20 PM
Dakich tweeted today that Brohm will be announced as the coach of Louisville on Nov 26.

Brohm after practice when talking to reporters called that "completely false". 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 15, 2018, 07:10:46 PM
So Dakich is spreading a little fake news? 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 15, 2018, 07:11:06 PM
So Dakich is spreading a little fake news?
Wouldn't be the first time.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Mdot21 on November 15, 2018, 07:16:12 PM
Dakich tweeted today that Brohm will be announced as the coach of Louisville on Nov 26.

Brohm after practice when talking to reporters called that "completely false".
Not sure how Dakich would even know that. Doesn't strike me as a guy who would get the scoop on that. He's a loud mouth blowhard. Not a college football reporter.
And if it were somehow true, what is Brohm going to say besides it's completely false? 
I'd bet Brohm is going to Louisville, but if he is it won't be until Purdue's season is finished. Purdue still has to get past Wisconsin and then Indiana to make a bowl. With the way they played vs Minnesota, neither of those games will be gimmes for Purdue.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 15, 2018, 07:45:35 PM
On the other hand if he was distracted by some back channel Cardinal courtship, it might explain why the Gophers were able to take his team behind the woodshed that week. 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MrNubbz on November 16, 2018, 07:49:15 AM
Or maybe they were playing Ohio St and Minny was playing Purdue
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on November 16, 2018, 08:22:31 AM
Well, it's interesting, at least for an off season topic .... oh, wait.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: ELA on November 16, 2018, 08:30:11 AM
Not sure how Dakich would even know that. Doesn't strike me as a guy who would get the scoop on that. He's a loud mouth blowhard. Not a college football reporter.
And if it were somehow true, what is Brohm going to say besides it's completely false?
I'd bet Brohm is going to Louisville, but if he is it won't be until Purdue's season is finished. Purdue still has to get past Wisconsin and then Indiana to make a bowl. With the way they played vs Minnesota, neither of those games will be gimmes for Purdue.
He's definitely a dipshit, but I always thought he was somewhat dialed into Purdue and Indiana.
It certainly seems odd he'd come out so strong, that if he's not basing it on something, doing that would seemingly burn any bridges left in that athletic department.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on November 16, 2018, 08:43:25 AM
A report specifying the exact date on which a coaching change is to be announced is not vague, obviously, and either is a fabrication soon to be shown to be such or is based on inside information.  

My GUESS would be that some very preliminary discussions took place, perhaps with an agent, and LV folks said they wanted to fish or cut bait by that date else it's off.

I hope he stays obviously, but I would not criticize him for "going home".

LV strikes me as a kind of marginal P5 program with little history that the ACC picked up out of desperation, but they do have some money, though perhaps not so much from pizza any more.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: ELA on November 16, 2018, 09:01:14 AM
LV strikes me as a kind of marginal P5 program with little history that the ACC picked up out of desperation, but they do have some money, though perhaps not so much from pizza any more.
Oh, no question.  Rutgers was a terrible addition, for terrible reasons, but at least there were reasons.
Louisville was a 100% desperation add.  The WVU fans I know are still pissed that they were passed over when the ACC added Pitt and Syracuse, because their academics weren't good enough.  Then the Big Ten stole Maryland, they panicked, and went and got Louisville, with worse athletics and academics.  If WVU had waited it out, they'd be in the ACC, which makes way more sense in terms of geography and rivalries, but I also don't blame them for jumping to the Big XII when it seemed like if they didn't, they'd be stuck in the American.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: bayareabadger on November 16, 2018, 09:12:23 AM
Dakich tweeted today that Brohm will be announced as the coach of Louisville on Nov 26.

Brohm after practice when talking to reporters called that "completely false".
This is an interesting moment because it means news reporting could essentially shift news. 
It might well have been true (who knows?), but now it damn sure won't be because the subjects control that one detail. 
It does remind me of something a scoops guy for CBS said. He explained his scoops don't include too much extraneous detail, like exact dates, locations because that's where someone is likely to jump you. 
If Purdue wants to lose to UW in hopes of keeping him, I'll take that bullet. 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Anonymous Coward on November 28, 2018, 01:19:59 PM
Unfortunately it seems to be happening (Louisville recruits are being told so, at least):

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/louisville/2018/11/28/jeff-brohm-louisville-football-recruits-hear-hes-new-coach/2134524002/
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MrNubbz on November 28, 2018, 01:28:25 PM
I was hoping not but I understand Brohm wanting to straighten the program out.Kind of a punch in the gut to Boiler Backers really hope they find the right guy
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on November 28, 2018, 01:48:05 PM
I won't blame him for "going home" and getting paid, but I won't be sad at all if Laville continues to struggle.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Entropy on November 28, 2018, 01:54:08 PM
I'd rather have him in the BIG.   Kind of feel sorry for Purdue's stud Freshman WR.   He went to Brohm's hs and followed him to Purdue. 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 28, 2018, 02:29:14 PM
I was hoping not but I understand Brohm wanting to straighten the program out.Kind of a punch in the gut to Boiler Backers really hope they find the right guy
He's in Buffalo.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 28, 2018, 02:41:30 PM
Nothing's a done deal yet... 

Obviously I'm watching this CLOSELY, divining tea leaves, twitter updates, rumors and innuendo, and so far nothing points clearly either way... The longer it goes on, the more I think he's staying, so the waiting game IMHO favors Purdue.

I'm not predicting either way, mind you. I'm not saying he's staying. I'm just saying that there are a LOT of rumors, and don't believe anything until it's announced either way.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: FearlessF on November 28, 2018, 02:50:19 PM
Unfortunately it seems to be happening (Louisville recruits are being told so, at least):

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/louisville/2018/11/28/jeff-brohm-louisville-football-recruits-hear-hes-new-coach/2134524002/
double darn!
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MrNubbz on November 28, 2018, 02:50:44 PM
Perhaps the University funds down there are lean after ponying up for FB/BB coaches and legal fees pertaining to
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: FearlessF on November 28, 2018, 02:55:07 PM
funds are usually "found" in the pockets of boosters of substance

I don't remember the last coaching change being stalled because of lack of funds

at any program
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MrNubbz on November 28, 2018, 03:00:36 PM
Well they should be the way they empty the coffers for these clowns
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: ELA on November 28, 2018, 04:19:48 PM
funds are usually "found" in the pockets of boosters of substance

I don't remember the last coaching change being stalled because of lack of funds

at any program
Their biggest booster hasn't had the best of years
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 28, 2018, 04:21:32 PM
Their biggest booster hasn't had the best of years
Yeah, and they took his name off the University too. No pizza for you!
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: MaximumSam on November 28, 2018, 06:31:54 PM
Pat Forde reporting that Brohm is STAYING
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on November 29, 2018, 11:40:56 AM
Maybe Laville with have a "Volunteer-like" coaching search.

I'm available.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: JerseyTerrapin on November 29, 2018, 08:35:49 PM
Good news for Purdue and the B1G!
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 29, 2018, 08:55:35 PM
There's gonna be some serious Spoilermakers going on over the next few seasons. 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: JerseyTerrapin on November 29, 2018, 09:16:11 PM
Oh, no question.  Rutgers was a terrible addition, for terrible reasons, but at least there were reasons.
Louisville was a 100% desperation add.  The WVU fans I know are still pissed that they were passed over when the ACC added Pitt and Syracuse, because their academics weren't good enough.  Then the Big Ten stole Maryland, they panicked, and went and got Louisville, with worse athletics and academics.  If WVU had waited it out, they'd be in the ACC, which makes way more sense in terms of geography and rivalries, but I also don't blame them for jumping to the Big XII when it seemed like if they didn't, they'd be stuck in the American.
I can't lie; I feel an embarrassing schadenfreudeish joy about how Louisville has fallen on their face in all sports since learning about the grind of competing in a major league conference.  We got jeered and ragged on after the announcement that we were leaving the ACC (actually, we got that treatment for years before that announcement for a variety of reasons); that included a lot of jabs about how our replacement was "better in every way!"
Yeah, I'm petty...
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 29, 2018, 09:19:51 PM
If WV had Louisville's spot in the ACC, who'd have WV's spot in the XII? Louisville? 
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: JerseyTerrapin on November 29, 2018, 10:17:56 PM
If WV had Louisville's spot in the ACC, who'd have WV's spot in the XII? Louisville?
Cincinnati, perhaps?  I have a lot of WV connections too, and many thought Cincinnati might be eventually added as an Eastern partner for them (although I think that turned out not to have ever been considered).
Many Louisville folks distance themselves from this now, but from what I've heard, when they withdrew from the AAC it was with anticipation that a Big 12 invitation for them was imminent.
Title: Re: Petrino out at Louisville
Post by: Cincydawg on November 30, 2018, 08:10:37 AM
I knew a Cincinnati Big Donor who told me 2 years ago the B12 offer was imminent.

They might get a bit more attention after this season with Fickell (unless Fickell gets attention).

Their stadium is a drawback and there isn't a lot of room around to expand.