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Title: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: ELA on October 20, 2018, 10:19:44 AM
I think Warriors fatigue is killing interest, plus most of the teams in the Midwest aren't good right now.  Best I guess is Pacers, whose ceiling is a Conference Semifinal.  But whatever.

Saw Bridges and Jackson combined for 39 points in their NBA debuts last night.  But we can't get out of the first weekend because the 6th year senior Ben Carter, on two repaired ACLs was the perfect weapon against the Syracuse zone.
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: SuperMario on October 20, 2018, 10:49:34 AM
Maybe not warriors but superteams. As much as I hate the warriors, they have to have respect historically for their run, except for Durant. Biggest chump move in sports history.

The bigger issue for the nba is there’s typically 5-7 stacked teams and everyone else blows. As a fan of a team that experience the high end of that, it still isn’t great basketball when it’s set up that way. The really bad teams always rank for the #1 pick and the middle of the pack isn’t good enough to bat an eye at. There’s no parity.
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on October 20, 2018, 11:16:13 AM
I can barely stomach a whole NBA game, the 82 game schedule plus 7 game series equates to a lot of fluff that isn't worth watching.  I do like to follow games after the fact to see how new players are doing or how old players are doing on new teams.  
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: ELA on October 20, 2018, 12:25:05 PM
I can barely stomach a whole NBA game, the 82 game schedule plus 7 game series equates to a lot of fluff that isn't worth watching.  I do like to follow games after the fact to see how new players are doing or how old players are doing on new teams.  
League Pass has a cheaper option this year where you only get like the last two minutes of games or something.
I think NBA should drop to more like 64 games, and NHL should drop to like 48.
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on October 20, 2018, 12:54:26 PM
NBA has been pretty bad for awhile. Now, it's just god awful though.

They need a hard cap. F this luxury tax BS. They need to model the league and draft process more like the NFL.
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: ELA on October 20, 2018, 01:02:18 PM
NBA has been pretty bad for awhile. Now, it's just god awful though.

They need a hard cap. F this luxury tax BS. They need to model the league and draft process more like the NFL.
Disagree about the hard cap, I like being able to keep the players you draft.
The issue is max contracts.  That's why you can build superteams.  If teams could go as high as they wanted, within the existing cap structure, guys would have to leave a LOT of money on the table to join a superteam.
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on October 20, 2018, 01:07:22 PM
Disagree about the hard cap, I like being able to keep the players you draft.
The issue is max contracts.  That's why you can build superteams.  If teams could go as high as they wanted, within the existing cap structure, guys would have to leave a LOT of money on the table to join a superteam.
well they have to do something.
This Golden State super team crap is garbage.
Durant went to a 73-9 team.
That'd be like Julio Jones going to the Patriots the year after they won the Super Bowl or something.
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: ELA on October 20, 2018, 01:20:50 PM
That was the shame.  What made the Warriors likable was the fact they drafted their own chanpionship.  Curry, Thompson, Green, all drafted.  Who was the last NBA champion to draft their nucleus?
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 20, 2018, 06:00:55 PM
The Cavs stink again. Particularly on Defense. 
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: SuperMario on October 20, 2018, 06:52:57 PM
The Cavs stink again. Particularly on Defense.
They stunk on defense last year, most famously Lebron. I can’t believe it wasn’t talked about more, but his defense was awful in the playoffs.
Cavs won’t be good but they won’t be post Lebron part I. Osman is pretty good and there’s a decent young core mixed with a highly overpaid veteran group. 
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: MarqHusker on October 21, 2018, 12:09:03 AM
maybe its because I have kids and 'things' to do, but I'm not anti-NBA, it basically exists and I ignore it.  I've attended about 2 quarters of one Pacers game since moving here 10 years ago.   Its a great arena (I've attended State HS and B1G tourney), but I'd rather do anything else than spend dough on it.  side bar: I haven't seen one Colts game either.   

The predictable nature of the NBA season outcome makes it impossible to introduce even faint interest.   It's like yard work.   Do you rake the leaves the moment they start falling?   Those acorns or black walnuts?    Hell no,  you wait to the end.  
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: SuperMario on October 21, 2018, 10:04:35 AM

The predictable nature of the NBA season outcome makes it impossible to introduce even faint interest.   It's like yard work.   Do you rake the leaves the moment they start falling?   Those acorns or black walnuts?    Hell no,  you wait to the end.  
Lol. That’s a great comparison and quite funny.
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: DevilFroggy on October 21, 2018, 01:33:02 PM
While this is almost assuredly Nowitzki's last season I am excited as a Mavs fun to see how they develop their promising young nucleus of Dennis Smith Jr, Luka Doncic, and Dorian Finney-Smith.
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on October 21, 2018, 05:30:08 PM

well they have to do something.
This Golden State super team crap is garbage.
Durant went to a 73-9 team.
That'd be like Julio Jones going to the Patriots the year after they won the Super Bowl or something.
well they have to do something.
This Golden State super team crap is garbage.
Durant went to a 73-9 team.
That'd be like Julio Jones going to the Patriots the year after they won the Super Bowl or something.
You mean after they lost the Super Bowl?
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on October 21, 2018, 05:42:24 PM
So there’s something interesting about the anti-NBA sentiment. We all like a sport that for the most part is terrifically static. Only 12 of 60 or 130 teams has a chance at a title. The good teams are the good teams even with roster turnover. 

But there’s a sort of fatalism here. 

When talking about transfers, ELA pointed out, no one imagines someone might get hurt. Players and fans have settled into this spot where we assume someone establishes early and they’re just set. We’re not into the journey, or the ups and downs, we’re just obsessed with a team’s ability to be there right at the end. Like the Cletics should be fun and interesting, but we say they won’t beat the Warriors, so why bother?

I think the way of consuming the NBA has in some ways shifted, at least to me. If you like the NBA you like the broader picture and seek out what might be interesting. What was lost was the thing where you saw a team that was ok to good and projected potential greatness. It seems like the world is smaller (it’s mostly been a league with little parity, but now we seem hyper aware of it. Like if in the 90s we were just more skeptical of the Knick and Western Conference)

Chances are, the Warriors break up after this year. KD might leave. Green and Klay will get deals. They’ll fall back, and if it’s just about them, the three-year blip will end. But my gut is, that fatalism will remain, and just move to another team.
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: ELA on October 21, 2018, 08:23:58 PM
The other issue is the predictability of the playoffs.  We can live with the Patriots, or the Dodgers, or the Penguins, because being the best in the other leagues guarantees far less postseason success than in the NBA.
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: ELA on April 16, 2019, 09:21:40 AM
Went to bed and missed a choke of epic proportions
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: Kris60 on April 16, 2019, 11:22:48 AM
Went to bed and missed a choke of epic proportions
That is as surprising an outcome as you can hope for in the NBA.
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: ELA on May 02, 2019, 01:35:10 PM
Some interesting, if unrealistic options here

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26633540/the-nba-obsessed-3s-let-fix-thing
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: rook119 on May 10, 2019, 10:07:46 PM
4 min left in Q2 game 6 GSW-HOU. 

Curry has 0 points, GSW leading by 8

Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 10, 2019, 11:25:23 PM
League Pass has a cheaper option this year where you only get like the last two minutes of games or something.
I think NBA should drop to more like 64 games, and NHL should drop to like 48.
It would be awfully tough to break a single season record if you are playing about 20 fewer games. Unless of course it was the record for fewest turnovers, or some such. 
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on May 11, 2019, 10:14:46 AM
In basketball, most records are by per game anyway, so that might matter less. Plus the tempo factor has warped a lot of those records. 
Title: Re: 2018-19 NBA Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 11, 2019, 10:36:19 AM
Career records would also be problematic, as a ten year career would result in about 200 fewer regular season games.