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Title: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 06:27:49 AM
It was a cold wakeup call when I fed the dogs this morning. 39 degrees made me wanting to find some firewood.  Regardless, heck of a day in college football today.  I'll be around all day - my wife is going to Bowling Green for homecoming or something, and I'm left to battle my girls into doing things that don't distract me from football.

Not sure if that will lead to some food or not.  It's a good day to make some chili, but I'm all out of beans and don't know if I'll get to the store.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 06:37:08 AM
Noon
Minny at OSU, FS1
Rutgers at Maryland, BTN
Iowa at Indiana, ESPN2
Nebraska at Northwestern, ABC
3:30
MSU at PSU, BTN
Purdue at Illinois, FS1
7:30
Wisconsin at Michiga, ABC

Others
Pitt at ND, 2:30, NBC
Georgia at LSU, 3:30, CBS
Washington at Oregon, 3:30, ABC/ESPN2
UCF at Memphis, 3:30, ABC/ESPN2
TA&M at South Carolina, 3:30, SECN
Mizzou at Alabama, 3:30, ESPN
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: utee94 on October 13, 2018, 08:28:56 AM
Well the great news is, there are no beans in chili, so you're all good!

Horns play Baylor today at 2:30 Central.  (Kick out Baylor obviously).  Major opportunity for a let-down after beating the hated Sooners at  the Cotton Bowl last week.



Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 13, 2018, 08:35:12 AM
This is the last weekend in the harbor, it appears. Everyone is pulling out except me, so no reason to come back up. Definitely not a cooking day, since all the grills are put away. Probably gonna go out for some grub and watch a little football after my chores around here are done and after a final boat ride for the season.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 13, 2018, 08:47:39 AM
It has been unusually warm down here until yesterday when a touch of chill hit the air, but I see the high Ts are back in the 80s next week.

This is the wife's first time in ATL so she is not really aware of how it can be around these parts.  She claims to like the heat anyway, so we're good on that front.  I think the winters are about like they are in Paris, but with more blue sky.  When it gets coldish here, it's usually with blue skies.

Blue sky, oh my, you're my sunny day

Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 13, 2018, 08:48:07 AM
And I don't know what to make of UGA yet, but I suspect we'll find out today.

Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 13, 2018, 08:55:37 AM
Friggin' docks are frosted over. C'mon sun! I need to go for a walk!!
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:03:33 AM
Just ground the beans and French pressed my morning into action!
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 13, 2018, 09:13:17 AM
The wife bought me a French press a while back so I feel compelled to use it.  I can't tell any difference versus the old coffee maker.  I'd use a percolator if we had one.  The wife has a Nespresso machine.  We were looking at new ones in the mall the other day.  She likes the sleek lines of the new ones.  I guess they are ornaments now, like a painting on the wall or a sculpture or something, a piece of art.

It's an easy Christmas buy I guess.

It's coffee for crying out loud.  I'm not a conniseur which is a word I can't spell.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:14:34 AM
Trying to decide what to throw in the oven later today. Not sure but it's going to be something heavy. The options are meatloaf, stuffed flank steak rolls, asparagus- and muenster-stuffed chicken breast, cordon bleu. I'm overzealous and sometimes short on time, so - today, tomorrow or Monday - they are all prepped for the (?) oven. (Maybe the steak rolls belong on the grill or frying pan. Undecided. Will accept advice.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 13, 2018, 09:14:41 AM
Just ground the beans and French pressed my morning into action!
Just blew water through a K-Cup to accomplish same.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 09:15:18 AM
I have a crusty Mr. Coffee and Costco coffee and I love them both
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 13, 2018, 09:16:08 AM
Trying to decide what to throw in the oven later today. Not sure but it's going to be something heavy. The options are meatloaf, stuffed flank steak rolls, asparagus- and muenster-stuffed chicken breast, cordon bleu. I'm overzealous and sometimes short on time, so - today, tomorrow or Monday - they are all prepped for the (?) oven. (Maybe the steak rolls belong on the grill or frying pan. Undecided. Will accept advice.
Ever do a meat loaf in cast iron on the grill (indirect heat)?
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 13, 2018, 09:20:32 AM
I have a flatiron steak in the fridge.

We picked up some cut tenderloin beef steaks from Costco on Wednesday and there is one left, enough for dinner, so we'll probably finish that after the LSU game.  We can't have gas or charcoal grills here, bummer.  I'm using a GFG now, which is not as bad as it could be.

I might try the hot cast iron approach.  The wife likes her steaks blu rare and it's hard to get without a thick piece of beef.

The wife wants an inductive cooktop (again).  We're in the initial stages of a kitchen redo.  The Miele induction stoves are pricey.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:21:20 AM
The wife bought me a French press a while back so I feel compelled to use it.  I can't tell any difference versus the old coffee maker.  I'd use a percolator if we had one.  The wife has a Nespresso machine.  We were looking at new ones in the mall the other day.  She likes the sleek lines of the new ones.  I guess they are ornaments now, like a painting on the wall or a sculpture or something, a piece of art.

It's an easy Christmas buy I guess.

It's coffee for crying out loud.  I'm not a conniseur which is a word I can't spell.
I like the techniques that avoid filters, especially paper filters. The best tasting coffee constituents are the oils. And though some will inevitably escape a filter, their loss is primarily a function of surface area contact and a paper filter provides too much of that. When French Pressing pure beans (never adding cream or frothed milk), I get a cm or two of "head" (for the first two mug fills) like you see with a draft beer. That's a lot of tasty surfactant. And a drip brew never comes close (the foamy oils are never even visible).
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: utee94 on October 13, 2018, 09:24:50 AM
My i s c & a aggie wife loves to buy small appliances.  It's a strange obsession for her.  I'm lucky, ultimately they're cheaper than shoes and clothes and women's accessories and she doesn't spend much at all on those things.  

But appliances, wow.

Consequently we have 4 coffee makers-- our "main" Cusinart drip that's stylish, one new Kuerig that she bought for the new RV but now resides in the house, a Nespresso that I love for making espresso, and a cheap Mr. Coffee espresso/cappucino maker that's more trouble to use and I don't make frothed milk drinks anyway so the Nespresso is perfect for me.  All four of those sit on our countertop in our "coffee bar" area.  None of that even counts the old Mr. Coffee drip that came with the Airstream, so that's really 5 coffee makers. OH, and a French press that I lake to take when I go tent/back country camping.

We also have 4 blenders. We have one of those bullet things that she insisted on buying, I think because it was cute. Not sure she's ever used it.  We have my old college/bachelor blender that works fine for pretty much anything.  We have a new(er) Osterizer with the chrome beehive base that was a wedding present, and then we have the new Vitamix she bought a couple of years ago and I nearly choked on my food when she told me how much it cost.  It does make perfectly smooth enchilada gravy with no need for straining, though, so I guess I shouldn't complain.

We also have 3 toasters.  I have no idea why.  

Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:26:06 AM
Ever do a meat loaf in cast iron on the grill (indirect heat)?
Never have. And unfortunately my grill (a Cobb) won't accommodate the cast iron I have. I like the idea though. Of the remaining options (in oven or on cast iron over stove), which do you suggest? Something else?
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: utee94 on October 13, 2018, 09:28:49 AM
No cooking today, 11yo girl has a soccer double-header at 12 and 1, and the 9yo boy has a football game at 3.  I'll have to record the Texas-Baylor game and watch it later.  Maybe I'll cook something tonight, but it's more likely we'll go out for wings.

Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: longhorn320 on October 13, 2018, 09:34:18 AM
No cooking today, 11yo girl has a soccer double-header at 12 and 1, and the 9yo boy has a football game at 3.  I'll have to record the Texas-Baylor game and watch it later.  Maybe I'll cook something tonight, but it's more likely we'll go out for wings.


amazing how having kids changes everything
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: utee94 on October 13, 2018, 09:35:35 AM
Yup.  That was at least 50% of the reason why we killed the tailgate. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: iahawk15 on October 13, 2018, 09:39:18 AM
My i s c & a aggie wife loves to buy small appliances.  It's a strange obsession for her.  I'm lucky, ultimately they're cheaper than shoes and clothes and women's accessories and she doesn't spend much at all on those things.  

But appliances, wow.

Consequently we have 4 coffee makers-- our "main" Cusinart drip that's stylish, one new Kuerig that she bought for the new RV but now resides in the house, a Nespresso that I love for making espresso, and a cheap Mr. Coffee espresso/cappucino maker that's more trouble to use and I don't make frothed milk drinks anyway so the Nespresso is perfect for me.  All four of those sit on our countertop in our "coffee bar" area.  None of that even counts the old Mr. Coffee drip that came with the Airstream, so that's really 5 coffee makers. OH, and a French press that I lake to take when I go tent/back country camping.

We also have 4 blenders. We have one of those bullet things that she insisted on buying, I think because it was cute. Not sure she's ever used it.  We have my old college/bachelor blender that works fine for pretty much anything.  We have a new(er) Osterizer with the chrome beehive base that was a wedding present, and then we have the new Vitamix she bought a couple of years ago and I nearly choked on my food when she told me how much it cost.  It does make perfectly smooth enchilada gravy with no need for straining, though, so I guess I shouldn't complain.

We also have 3 toasters.  I have no idea why.  


Sounds like she just needs to add an instant pot and an air fryer. And yeah, while expensive, the Vitamix is worth it. Juicing a basket full of tomatoes without peeling the skins is life changing.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 09:40:12 AM
 :coffee2: :coffee2: :coffee2:
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 09:45:13 AM
The wife wants an inductive cooktop (again).  We're in the initial stages of a kitchen redo.  The Miele induction stoves are pricey.
Wives are pricey
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 09:47:09 AM
  It's a good day to make some chili, but I'm all out of beans and don't know if I'll get to the store.
My pantry is spilling over with them - send over a drone
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: utee94 on October 13, 2018, 09:48:10 AM
Sounds like she just needs to add an instant pot and an air fryer. And yeah, while expensive, the Vitamix is worth it. Juicing a basket full of tomatoes without peeling the skins is life changing.
We already have two different pressure cookers.  I have strictly forbidden the instant pot.  But, eventually she's bound to be influenced my pinterest or facebook and I have no doubt we'll have an instant pot at that point.  Especially if there's a flashy one in stainless steel accents.  She loves that stuff.
I've come around on the Vitamix.  Like I said, it's perfect for enchilada gravy, and that's pretty much enough to get my vote.  It also makes great frozen margaritas. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: utee94 on October 13, 2018, 09:48:33 AM
Wives are pricey
word
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 09:48:38 AM
Well the great news is, there are no beans in chili, so you're all good!
Don't listen to that man behind the curtain
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 13, 2018, 09:52:57 AM
That man knows his stuff. Do listen.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 09:53:34 AM
I like the techniques that avoid filters, especially paper filters. The best tasting coffee constituents are the oils. And though some will inevitably escape a filter, their loss is primarily a function of surface area contact and a paper filter provides too much of that. 
We had a coffee discussion on the old board a few years back.For some reason if you do use paper filters - it blocks the cholesterol properties in the coffee,so there's that
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 13, 2018, 09:53:56 AM
My wife is quite reasonable and rational about nearly everything.  She dragged me into Cartier at the mall, but we just looked.  Holy cow there is some pricey trinkets in there.  I told her she could have the bracelet or the kitchen.

She also is fine with most of my extravagances, so we're balanced.  And so far liquid.

She's nice to have around.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 13, 2018, 09:54:48 AM
What are "cholesterol properties"?  I can answer that chemically, like melting point and molecular weight, but I don't see how those properties can be blocked by a filter.

Cholesterol has 256 stereoisomers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereoisomer) that arise from its 8 stereocenters, although only two of the stereoisomers are of biochemical significance (nat-cholesterol and ent-cholesterol, for natural and enantiomer, respectively),[100] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholesterol#cite_note-Westover_2003-101)[101] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholesterol#cite_note-Kristiana_2012-102) and only one occurs naturally (nat-cholesterol).

Cut and pasted from wiki because I thought it fascinating.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 13, 2018, 09:55:23 AM
Just blew water through a K-Cup to accomplish same.
same, seems good enough
plans are fluid here
going to a Hawkeye bar this morning at 10:30, if they won't put the Husker game on at the same time as the Hawl game I'll run home and watch the game at home and put chicken wings in the oven and finish them on the Weber grill
If the Hawk owner will allow the Skers and Cats on one of the screens I'll eat and drink there.  Charlie Boys and frosted schooners.
High of 58 here today with some wind, might get a round of golf after the early game.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:57:12 AM
We had a coffee discussion on the old board a few years back.For some reason if you do use paper filters - it blocks the cholesterol properties in the coffee,so there's that
That makes sense and is a good thing to know. But much like sodium intake isn't established to matter much unless a person has high BP or heart/kidney disease, I probably will keep seeking out delicious cholesterol so long as my HDL ("good cholesterol") blood level stays this high.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:59:05 AM
What are "cholesterol properties"?  I can answer that chemically, like melting point and molecular weight, but I don't see how those properties can be blocked by a filter.
Since coffee oils adsorb in a manner dependent on the surface area they contact (and are so thoroughly removed by a paper filter that the surfactant "head" is lost), I find it plausible that cholesterol will be likewise reduced by that method.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: bayareabadger on October 13, 2018, 09:59:21 AM
Hot weather finally broke in my neck of the woods. Morning run, first in a damn week, was abbreviated and kinda slow, but refreshing all the same. 

I have a work thing in the afternoon, but hoping to catch the back end of UW-Michigan. Happy to live in a time where I’ll be able to get a condensed version for study tomorrow AM. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MarqHusker on October 13, 2018, 10:00:20 AM
We just ordered our appliances for the kitchen.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 13, 2018, 10:00:31 AM
Not sure if that will lead to some food or not.  It's a good day to make some chili, but I'm all out of beans and don't know if I'll get to the store.
you could knock on the door of an attractive neighbor lady and ask to borrow a can of beans
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 10:02:22 AM
(Maybe the steak rolls belong on the grill or frying pan. Undecided. Will accept advice.
https://www.americastestkitchen.com/episode/525-cast-iron-staples
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 10:03:06 AM
you could knock on the door of an attractive neighbor lady and ask to borrow a can of beans
The same one who stomps on grapes
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 13, 2018, 10:04:23 AM
We just ordered our appliances for the kitchen.
What did ya get?
We're keeping most of ours, except maybe the stove.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 10:05:06 AM
Still not used to fall season in Florida versus living in Michigan. Probably never will be.  I guess you can take the boy out of the Midwest but you can’t take the Midwest out of the boy.

One positive is to have the tv on inside as well as the one on the patio, where I have a outside kitchen and a nice inground pool. I can sit outside and enjoy my K-cup coffee, watch football cook, swim, let the dogs swim, use the grill- all year long.  Today is not humid thank god.

Grilling today, just not sure what.   Ribs, steaks, or chicken, with some homemade hash browns. 

Good games on all day and into the late night.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 10:05:13 AM
Since coffee oils adsorb in a manner dependent on the surface area they contact (and are so thoroughly removed by a paper filter that the surfactant "head" is lost), I find it plausible that cholesterol will be likewise reduced by that method.
Ya we''ll go with that sounds similar to explanation i got
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 13, 2018, 10:05:44 AM
The same one who stomps on grapes
not the guy behind the curtain
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 10:07:18 AM
Aaaaaaah, fall is here.  Feels great!
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 10:07:49 AM
I suppose the oils are also lost because they foam and visible bubbles cannot navigate paper pores (not the same as adsorption and, in fact, this could be the better explanation).
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 10:09:36 AM
https://twitter.com/recordsANDradio/status/1051101973821440000?s=19
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 13, 2018, 10:09:47 AM
We just ordered our appliances for the kitchen.
Do tell. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 10:11:38 AM
I have an instant pot. It is handy to make something without using the stove space. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 10:12:19 AM
https://twitter.com/recordsANDradio/status/1051101973821440000?s=19
I saw the aftermath. Assumed the Badger had been a dick and kicked it over. Nope! Back to the drawing board, engineers.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 10:13:11 AM
If the Hawk owner will allow the Skers and Cats on one of the screens I'll eat and drink there.  Charlie Boys and frosted schooners.

What are Charlie Boys?Got the frosted schooners all figured out
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 10:14:17 AM
not the guy behind the curtain
She sounds hideous
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 10:15:24 AM
I saw the aftermath. Assumed the Badger had been a dick and kicked it over. Nope! Back to the drawing board, engineers.
Doesn't matter, Boston Dynamics has already created our future overlords...or maybe just the future of football.
https://twitter.com/NorthmanTrader/status/1050484113264795649?s=19
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MarqHusker on October 13, 2018, 10:17:12 AM
This is a new build.  We're going with a Thermador cooktop, and double oven.   My same kitchen aid under counter ice maker and beverage fridge .  The main fridge is a paneled built in subzero.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MarqHusker on October 13, 2018, 10:18:32 AM
I don't remember the dishwasher.   We also picked the countertops finally.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 13, 2018, 10:20:07 AM
She sounds hideous
well, she's a guy, so.....
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 13, 2018, 10:20:39 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpZLaH1UYAgkAAb.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 10:22:09 AM
My wife is quite reasonable and rational about nearly everything.  She dragged me into Cartier at the mall, but we just looked.  Holy cow there is some pricey trinkets in there.  I told her she could have the bracelet or the kitchen.

She also is fine with most of my extravagances, so we're balanced.  And so far liquid.

She's nice to have around.
I dunno seems to me you should be getting a Kegerator or something out of the deal.If she starts playing hardball least a top of the line insulated Travel Mug to keep your saturday refreshments cold
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 13, 2018, 10:22:43 AM
What are Charlie Boys?Got the frosted schooners all figured out
loose ground beef sammich - black pepper a little spicy
(https://roadfood.com/wp-content/uploads/2002/06/Miles-tavern-2-1400x933_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 10:25:00 AM
A couple of those and you'll have to play 18.Look pretty damn good,excuse me why I have some fresh gala apples with my non-cholesterol coffee
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 10:25:24 AM
Doesn't matter, Boston Dynamics has already created our future overlords...or maybe just the future of football.
https://twitter.com/NorthmanTrader/status/1050484113264795649?s=19
Uh oh. I better stop being so abusive to my alarm clock.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 10:28:26 AM
Rock'em-Sock'em Robots - we were doing that shit years ago.I knew I was ahead of the curve
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 10:29:45 AM
Daughter’s softball tournament was canceled due to weather.   Cool and rainy here. I love it. Gives me an excuse to watch football all day. Basted some wings  last night and have them ready to go in the smoker around 3. Also gonna grill some burgers.

Seems like Iowa St beating my Mountaineers is a pretty popular upset pick today. We’ll see.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 13, 2018, 10:31:33 AM
A couple of those and you'll have to play 18.Look pretty damn good,excuse me why I have some fresh gala apples with my non-cholesterol coffee
I'll have a honey crisp apple on my way to the bar.  Swallering my cholesterol pill with my coffee.
2 of those is the usual, about a 1/4 pound each, with a bag of jalapeno chips
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: SuperMario on October 13, 2018, 10:31:50 AM
Fall is definitely here in NE Ohio and I for one hate it. The only good part about it is a great Michigan schedule over the next month. Definitely a weekend to cook Chili. With beans of course.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 10:32:27 AM
Of course,don't care for the rain but have always loved the cooler weather
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 13, 2018, 10:33:15 AM
Seems like Iowa St beating my Mountaineers is a pretty popular upset pick today. We’ll see.
the Clones seem to knock someone off at home each season, I'd pick the Mountaineers to win, but not cover
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 13, 2018, 10:35:00 AM
I saw the aftermath. Assumed the Badger had been a dick and kicked it over. Nope! Back to the drawing board, engineers.
Take another look. It looks like Bucky took a "swing" and then the robot fell over. I thought that was how it was supposed to work.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 13, 2018, 10:36:56 AM
The kitchen at our new joint has the panel Sub Zero. Not sure I like that very much. I liked the look of the stainless fridge. It has a panel d/w too. GE profile along with the Advantium micro/convection/broiler. Wolf stove. That seems really nice so far.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 10:41:36 AM
the Clones seem to knock someone off at home each season, I'd pick the Mountaineers to win, but not cover
I took them as my upset pick, but I was surprised how few points they were getting
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: SuperMario on October 13, 2018, 10:43:59 AM
Of course,don't care for the rain but have always loved the cooler weather
Good news, it’s coming. This weather is always a sign that we’re a blink of an eye away from lake effect snow.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 10:46:18 AM
Getting that standard kind of nervous about the big game tonight. Waiting to see the program permanently transition out of rebuild mode to maintenance mode and finally climb out of Harbaugh's 5-8 record versus Top 25 teams.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 10:56:14 AM
Good news, it’s coming. This weather is always a sign that we’re a blink of an eye away from lake effect snow.
Have 2 Oaks close to my house and I don't ever recall the barrage of acorns we've had this year. It doesn't necessarily mean a bad winter but the past two were relatively mild.But the two before that were ice-age cold.I have been filling at least one 5 gallon bucket a day from around the driveway with acorns.It seems to be subsiding but the last 3 weeks I thought I was next to a golf range
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 13, 2018, 10:58:26 AM
Harbaugh might someday have an all timer of a season like he did at Stanford. 

For the most part Harbaugh's gonna Harbaugh; soundly beating the teams that he should, which will get him in or around the ten win club annually, keeping his job secure. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 13, 2018, 11:06:33 AM
Harbaugh might someday have an all timer of a season like he did at Stanford.

For the most part Harbaugh's gonna Harbaugh; soundly beating the teams that he should, which will get him in or around the ten win club annually, keeping his job secure.
he needs to overhaul that offense and evolve. mainly his passing game. if he doesn't, he'll never live up to the promise.
Ed Warriner was a freaking great hire. He took a trash OL unit and through half a season he's made them a little bit better every single week. Still nowhere near they need to be, but I have been blown away but how much better he's made that OL. That dude is for real.

Don Brown is about as good as it gets for a DC, Mattison is about as good as it gets for a DL coach, and Mike Zordich has been impressive coaching up those CB's. Chris Partridge and Al Washington are young, energetic, great recruiters who have helped Michigan recruit at a high level on that defense. Washington has Michigan right in the thick of it for 5* all-everything DE recruit Zach Harrison. If they land Harrison- it'll be 100% because of Washington.

If they can't develop that passing game to get them over the hump, it'll be a real shame. Patterson is a big-time talent and with Black back not sure I've seen Michigan have WR's this talented in a long time.

Will be a waste of a pretty good special teams unit and an elite defense if they don't figure out that offense this year. Harbaugh wasted an elite defense in 2016 by having a lousy offense and losing to Iowa by 1 and blowing the game in Columbus.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 11:25:12 AM
Harbaugh wasted an elite defense in 2016 by having a lousy offense and losing to Iowa by 1 and blowing the game in Columbus.
The end to that season was perhaps entirely on Speight's injury. He was hobbled and newly erratic QB afterward and single-handedly gave OSU life, whereas before his two INTs, Don Brown had *completely* downloaded and paralyzed their offense.
Injuries happen. Great teams have answers and depth when they do. So of course it's bad that Michigan didn't have viable back-ups behind Speight. But in 2016, that one was mostly bad on Hoke for letting Al Borges - he who across more than a decade literally never recruited a QB who finished his college career as starter - pick the team's QBs.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 11:31:07 AM
 It's sounding like both Solomon and Black may be back for the game tonight. Those are two of Michigan's best players. I hope they have very low snap counts. Their sustained health is essential to finish the schedule on top.
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Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 11:35:52 AM
The end to that season was perhaps entirely on Speight's injury. He was hobbled and newly erratic QB afterward and single-handedly gave OSU life, whereas before his two INTs, Don Brown had *completely* downloaded and paralyzed their offense.
Injuries happen. Great teams have answers and depth when they do. So of course it's bad that Michigan didn't have viable back-ups behind Speight. But in 2016, that one was mostly bad on Hoke for letting Al Borges - he who across more than a decade literally never recruited a QB who finished his college career as starter - pick the team's QBs.

That 16 game was epic. But be honest, while UM neutered OSUs offense after their opening drive, they couldn’t stop them when it mattered.   OSU had 2 long drives in the last 5 minutes, one resulting in a missed field goal, the next successful.    Then in OT...
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 11:38:01 AM
And Speight gave OSU 14 points. But yes, Michigan's defense wasn't truly perfect, just mostly. If Speight were uninjured, it'd have been enough to win, perhaps (likely?) by multiple scores. But OSU capitalized and won it themselves. That's the tapestry. And you're right, it was epic. Much moreso than 2006, TBH.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 13, 2018, 11:48:30 AM
I wish UW would get some good news on the injury front. Need to have more DB's for today, and there is not much to be "heard" on anything right now.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: SuperMario on October 13, 2018, 11:48:58 AM
It's sounding like both Solomon and Black may be back for the game tonight. Those are two of Michigan's best players. I hope they have very low snap counts. Their sustained health is essential to finish the schedule on top.
Whoa!! Black? I thought we were talking late in the season for him.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 11:55:02 AM
Whoa!! Black? I thought we were talking late in the season for him.
Yeah, it showed up in the game thread last night. Black tweeted something cryptic and it was showing up soon after on the radio and, before any of this, the commentators in the USF-Tulsa game seemed to break the news. It's very weird but incrementing toward true. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 12:09:39 PM
Buckeyes give up a couple plays but then get a pick on a ill-advised throw from the Minny QB
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 12:13:43 PM
Another beautiful deep throw from Haskins :)
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 12:15:56 PM
Mack can't snag the touchdown pass, 3-0 Bucks
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 12:21:44 PM
BTW I am in pure football mode - in my easy chair, Oktoberfest to my side, laptop plugged in, phone on Yahoo sports.  After OSU I'll probably get the Switch out just to add to my ADHD
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 13, 2018, 12:21:56 PM
Wow, FS1 is still using an old outdated OSU logo that was revised well over five years ago. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 13, 2018, 12:29:15 PM
Late hit.....

BS
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 12:31:35 PM
I think Nebraska is ready to turn the corner.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 12:35:20 PM
Minnesota has a 400 pound freshman?  Zero chance that's good weight.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 12:35:32 PM
And Speight gave OSU 14 points. 
Stanley Jackson basically did the exact same thing vs Michigan the year they split the MNC with UNL.He cost us 10-14 pts in a game we lost by 6.It really hurt because Germaine had the highest QBR in the BIG at the time but ole Tennessee John thought it prudent to sit him.Then brought him in when it was obvious passing situations
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 12:35:40 PM
I think Nebraska is ready to turn the corner.
Delightful.  4-8, here we come.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 12:35:57 PM
Good looking drive for the Mother Fleckers from Minnesota.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 12:36:03 PM
Gophs able to run the ball on OSU, march down and score.  7-3 Gophers.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 12:41:11 PM
Minny has to check that spot.  Don’t think he got there.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 12:42:11 PM
That's how you take advantage of a terrible spot.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 12:42:44 PM
Oh man, how does Minnesota not check that spot?  Instead of a turnover on downs Ohio St scores the next play.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 12:43:18 PM
Iffy spot, but great throw.  10-7.  Let's see if the Buckeye defense wants to show up.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: RestingB!tchFace on October 13, 2018, 12:45:47 PM
Wow.  Like OSU need help from the refs.  Bull*hit spot gifts OSU a TD.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: SuperMario on October 13, 2018, 12:47:09 PM
Wow.  Like OSU need help from the refs.  Bull*hit spot gifts OSU a TD.
Lol. Great screen name.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 12:47:20 PM
Wow.  Like OSU need help from the refs.  Bull*hit spot gifts OSU a TD.
That is definitely overstating it, he definitely reached the ball over, but question was whether he was down before pulling it back.  Also, that was 45 yards from the end zone.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 12:47:37 PM
Minnesota has a 400 pound freshman?  Zero chance that's good weight.
He's 6'9 or 6'10. Seriously. I think our conceptions of good OL weight are not relevant to a guy that tall.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 12:50:48 PM
That is definitely overstating it, he definitely reached the ball over, but question was whether he was down before pulling it back.  Also, that was 45 yards from the end zone.
Looked like he reached it over after his elbow was clearly down short of the line to make.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 12:51:40 PM
Well, the refs give it back to Minny on a truly terrible PI call
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: The Loon on October 13, 2018, 12:53:42 PM
Are you talking about the 3rd down where the OSU runs into the Gopher WR before the ball arrived?
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 12:55:42 PM
Minny looking good on offense.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 12:55:43 PM
Are you talking about the 3rd down where the OSU runs into the Gopher WR before the ball arrived?
The one where the Minny quarterback zinged it into the back of the OSU defender.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 12:56:01 PM
OSU getting killed on those slants
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 12:57:12 PM
OSU's defense, especially up front, is very injured. So we should take this start with a grain of salt. Then again, play like this is a season-long trend.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 13, 2018, 12:59:34 PM
And another Late Hit. 

If you slow it down enough, it looks legit. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: The Loon on October 13, 2018, 12:59:50 PM
The one where the Minny quarterback zinged it into the back of the OSU defender.
That's PI in college football. Guessing that 4th down spot was right on?
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 01:00:12 PM
That's PI in college football. Guessing that 4th down spot was right on?
No it isn't
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 01:01:16 PM
See ya, 16.  He’s made a couple nice plays already too.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 01:02:30 PM
I vaguely recall that changed that rule recently to protect sliding quarterbacks.  But there is no reason to protect sliding quarterbacks, because there is no reason to slide.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: The Loon on October 13, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
Will they reverse the targeting call, like they did last time Minnesota was in Columbus? When OSU hit Leidner under the chin, made the call, then reversed it. Oh, that's because it was a pick 6.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 01:04:13 PM
I just don’t agree with that targeting call.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: The Loon on October 13, 2018, 01:06:36 PM
No it isn't
Amazing that TWO refs threw flags on that call. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 01:07:10 PM
Amazing that TWO refs threw flags on that call.
Yep, both quite wrong
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 01:07:17 PM
I just don’t agree with that targeting call.  
I don’t think there was any malicious intent to it but that was pretty textbook.  Crown of the head into the face mask.  That’s pretty cut and dried.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: SuperMario on October 13, 2018, 01:07:42 PM
I just don’t agree with that targeting call.  
I thought it was questionable. It was definitely a personal foul. That’s not where I want to see targeting called as a fan of the game.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: RestingB!tchFace on October 13, 2018, 01:07:57 PM
Lol. Great screen name.
Thanks!
I'm glad that this board sprung up after the scout (?) board went bye bye.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 01:08:04 PM
I just don’t agree with that targeting call.  
That's the classic example of it being the right call but the rule being terribly drawn. Either foot-first QB slides need to be outlawed (which is ludicrous) or those slides need to be ineligible for targeting once the player's head arrives lower than the height of their waist when standing.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 01:08:41 PM
Amazing that TWO refs threw flags on that call.
Absolutely. They have to call that, DB didn’t turn and look for the ball.
I know it’s frustrating from OSU standpoint, since they had the drive stopped
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 01:08:43 PM
I don’t think there was any malicious intent to it but that was pretty textbook.  Crown of the head into the face mask.  That’s pretty cut and dried.
I think it was the correct call per the rule, but I don't like the rule that makes a runner a "defenseless player" because he starts sliding.  It is too hard for defensive players to pull up.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 01:09:45 PM
That's the classic example of it being the right call but the rule being terribly drawn. Either foot-first QB slides need to be outlawed (which is ludicrous) or those slides need to be ineligible for targeting once the player's head arrives lower than the height of their waist when standing.
Right on.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: RestingB!tchFace on October 13, 2018, 01:10:05 PM
That is definitely overstating it, he definitely reached the ball over, but question was whether he was down before pulling it back.  Also, that was 45 yards from the end zone.
What?  He was pretty clearly down prior to getting the first down.  I don't see how you could say any differently.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 01:10:21 PM
Good luck getting an offensive face mask called, Klatt.  That is one of my pet peeves.  Ball carriers routinely jam their hands into the facemask of a defender with nothing called.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 01:10:41 PM
Absolutely. They have to call that, DB didn’t turn and look for the ball.
I know it’s frustrating from OSU standpoint, since they had the drive stopped
Pass interference is intentional contact to prevent a completion.  This call was made because he didn't turn around and look at the ball, even though that isn't part of pass interference in college football.  It is was brutal call, because the ball has no chance of ever being completed, there was no intentional contact, and because the QB was bailed out for throwing a bad pass into tight coverage.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 01:11:05 PM
What?  He was pretty clearly down prior to getting the first down.  I don't see how you could say any differently.
Watch it again
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: RestingB!tchFace on October 13, 2018, 01:12:52 PM
Well, the refs give it back to Minny on a truly terrible PI call
Nonsense.  That was absolutely the definition of PI.  And after the horrible spot on that 4th down?
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 01:14:24 PM
Pass interference is intentional contact to prevent a completion.  This call was made because he didn't turn around and look at the ball, even though that isn't part of pass interference in college football. It is was brutal call, because the ball has no chance of ever being completed, there was no intentional contact, and because the QB was bailed out for throwing a bad pass into tight coverage.
That exact language ("be sure to turn around") may not be written into the book, but it's been abundantly clear for at least 5 years, that this is a firm convention now. Watch Michigan DBs. If they turn their heads, they can get away with almost anything. That's the modern college game. Rejecting it does a coach or fan zero good.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 13, 2018, 01:15:16 PM
Meanwhile, Florida's entire team is honest-to-god throwing the game vs Vandy.  On purpose.  I wish I was joking.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 01:16:09 PM
He's 6'9 or 6'10. Seriously. I think our conceptions of good OL weight are not relevant to a guy that tall.
If he were 5 years older, maybe.  To be there at 18 is the concern
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 01:16:16 PM
That exact language ("be sure to turn around") may not be written into the book, but it's been abundantly clear for at least 5 years, that this is a firm convention now. Watch Michigan DBs. If they turn their heads, they can get away with almost anything. That's the modern college game. Rejecting it does an offense or fan zero good.
I know.  But "convention" and the rule are two different things.  That's why we get awful calls, when we look at convention instead of following the rules.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 01:16:44 PM
Man, without that bad call, Minnesota would be running away with this.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 01:16:55 PM
Minnesota is gashing Ohio St
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 01:17:45 PM
OSU defense looks totally lost.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 01:18:46 PM
Eh, that looks like a catch and fumble to me.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 01:19:04 PM
I know.  But "convention" and the rule are two different things.  That's why we get awful calls, when we look at convention instead of following the rules.
That's fair. But be patient. Changes in convention often precede changes of law.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 01:20:52 PM
Eh, that looks like a catch and fumble to me.
Yeah. The fact that he tucks the ball in his antecubital fossa (
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 01:21:16 PM
That's fair. But be patient. Changes in convention often precede changes of law.
I'm pretty patient.  It's always been a pet peeve when refs throw PI flags when a QB throw a hopeless pass into coverage.  It happens fairly frequently and I don't expect it to change.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 01:22:14 PM
I'm pretty patient.  It's always been a pet peeve when refs throw PI flags when a QB throw a hopeless pass into coverage.  It happens fairly frequently and I don't expect it to change.  
I missed the play in question and was just commenting generally. When the balls are overthrown by 10 yards (or out of bounds) and still get the flag, that's a pet peeve of mine, too.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 13, 2018, 01:22:22 PM
I've never seen a worse double-reverse pass than Auburn's vs Tennessee.  
Each step of the process was under pressure, then the QB ends up throwing the ball into the DE's chest.  Yeesh.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 01:23:49 PM
UNL "tied" against NU at 2 TDs each ... except didn't. Failed PAT. 13-14 now.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 01:24:38 PM
Now that was a pretty catch
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 01:25:05 PM
LOL.  Great catch and great celebration.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 01:27:12 PM
I know Ash's tenure at Rutger has been trash, but am I crazy to think they should ABSOLUTELY keep him? I really doubt anyone would be to a bowl eligibility with that program right now. They need stability, not to fish for "the right coach." There's no panacea for Rutger. Only a commitment to a decade-plus of rebuilding with a coach who's up for it. And since Ash seems "meh probably good enough if he were elsewhere," I think you just need to roll with him forever.
/notkidding /srsly
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: SuperMario on October 13, 2018, 01:27:22 PM
IAre announcers regional? Meaning does Minnesota have the same announcers that Ohio has? If so, it would be tough to be a Gopher fan listening to this.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 01:27:30 PM
Jeez, what a bad decision to bring that kick out.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: RestingB!tchFace on October 13, 2018, 01:27:31 PM
Watch it again
That's not a first down in any sense of the term.
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1051151208264675329
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 01:28:11 PM
  • Quote from: SuperMario (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?topic=6008.msg75002#msg75002) on Sat Oct 13 2018 13:27:22 GMT-0400 (EDT)

IAre announcers regional? Meaning does Minnesota have the same announcers that Ohio has? If so, it would be tough to be a Gopher fan listening to this.
This is a national broadcast.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 01:28:25 PM
I know Ash's tenure at Rutger has been trash, but am I crazy to think they should ABSOLUTELY keep him? I really doubt anyone would be to a bowl eligibility with that program right now. They need stability, not to fish for "the right coach." There's no panacea for Rutger. Only a commitment to a decade-plus of rebuilding with a coach who's up for it. And since Ash seems "meh probably good enough if he were elsewhere," I think you just need to roll with him forever.
/notkidding /srsly
Maybe?  I'm generally a fan of stability, but dag, they seem worse than when he started.  I mean, hire Schiano again.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: DevilFroggy on October 13, 2018, 01:31:19 PM
A dreary, rainy day here in Phoenix believe it or not. Currently 68 degrees, not supposed to get much warmer. 

ASU has a bye and TCU already lost, but still happy to watch some college football. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 01:32:05 PM
IAre announcers regional? Meaning does Minnesota have the same announcers that Ohio has? If so, it would be tough to be a Gopher fan listening to this.
Announcers are rarely regional. Often not even when the game is on plural channels (excepting rare games like the NCG).
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 01:32:16 PM
Minnesota really needs a stop right here before halftime.  If Ohio St can score here it will really be deflating.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 13, 2018, 01:40:05 PM
A dreary, rainy day here in Phoenix believe it or not. Currently 68 degrees, not supposed to get much warmer.

ASU has a bye and TCU already lost, but still happy to watch some college football.
Yeah, I go to run out to my car in a t-shirt and shorts, and I have to do a u-turn to put on a hoodie.  Cold and wet!
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 01:41:45 PM
Wow, Vandy screwed the pooch there.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 13, 2018, 01:42:46 PM
Thank christ
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: The Loon on October 13, 2018, 01:43:37 PM
IAre announcers regional? Meaning does Minnesota have the same announcers that Ohio has? If so, it would be tough to be a Gopher fan listening to this.
It's an OSU infomercial. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 01:49:01 PM
It's an OSU infomercial.

Par for the course when helmets play non helmets.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 01:49:33 PM
Where was this Thorson last week?  Missing wide open TDs, throwing picks into double coverage.
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 13, 2018, 01:50:16 PM
It's "Pride Week" in the park today.  The weather is spectacular.  I went running this AM and then the wife and I walked around.  Got some free paper towels from KMB.

I'm glad folks are proud of being proud.

It's a bit noisy at the moment though, like rather.
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 01:54:57 PM
Lewerke absolutely has the skill set to run the Nebraska offense.  This is more akin to what we should be doing next year.
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Post by: SuperMario on October 13, 2018, 01:55:21 PM
It's an OSU infomercial.
That’s why I asked. It’s noticeably slanted in a way I thought maybe I was watching the local broadcast version. Here in Cleveland we have a channel that always has local Indians or cavs broadcasters even when the game is on a tnt or fox.
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 01:55:54 PM
Northwestern's tackling is abysmal
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 02:00:14 PM
Hurons up 28-3 on Toledo.  I'll be surprised if they hang onto their coach much longer.
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 02:08:07 PM
Gophs playing it safe on 3rd and long.  Let's see if Bucks can actually get them into 3rd and long.
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 02:21:39 PM
Feels like Gophs were getting a little wild in their effort to pressure Haskins.  Let's see if the Bucks can make them pay for that.
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 02:25:40 PM
OSU still at 2.9 y/rush. That should change as the half evolves. /youdthink
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 02:27:32 PM
Minnesota not shy about running the ball on 3rd and long situations today.
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 02:28:26 PM
OSU still at 2.9 y/rush. That should change as the half evolves. /youdthink
They haven't been very good running the ball for a few weeks now.  Their yards are more due to the quantity of carries, not the quality.
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 02:32:38 PM
Ugh.  A really good drive ends in Minny gacking a 32 yard FG.  Might want to mark that play down.
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 02:32:44 PM
OSU pretty lucky in this game, and only up by 6
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 02:32:48 PM
One would expect that UMinn gaffe to end the game. Normally, at least.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 13, 2018, 02:34:12 PM
"Cold" [high of 69] and rainy day here in SoCal. We have the kids this weekend and we were going to take them out to the apple orchard with some friends, but the weather killed that. I'm not sad ;-) 

This UNL/NU game is keeping me interested while I wait for my wife to come home from the store with some bloody mary mix and watch the Purdue game. Her bloody mary skills are exquisite.

Tonight I'm going throw Black Diamond marinated flank steak on the grill, with roasted Brussels sprouts and garlic bread on the side. 

Good marinade by the way... I recommend it: https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2017/06/black-diamond-steak-marinade-recipe.html

Per the other thread, maybe we'll break into some of the "good" wine tonight with dinner... Hopefully to celebrate a Purdue victory. 
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 02:34:29 PM
UNL still almost doubling up NU in yardage (442-237) and precisely in points (28-14).
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 02:35:36 PM
"Cold" [high of 69] and rainy day here in SoCal. We have the kids this weekend and we were going to take them out to the apple orchard with some friends, but the weather killed that. I'm not sad ;-)

This UNL/NU game is keeping me interested while I wait for my wife to come home from the store with some bloody mary mix and watch the Purdue game. Her bloody mary skills are exquisite.

Tonight I'm going throw Black Diamond marinated flank steak on the grill, with roasted Brussels sprouts and garlic bread on the side.

Good marinade by the way... I recommend it: https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2017/06/black-diamond-steak-marinade-recipe.html

Per the other thread, maybe we'll break into some of the "good" wine tonight with dinner... Hopefully to celebrate a Purdue victory.
How common are SoCal orchards? I was surprised to read SoCal and apples. /ignorance
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 13, 2018, 02:35:43 PM
Ever do a meat loaf in cast iron on the grill (indirect heat)?
Even better with some smoking wood in there...
One of the things I love about a Kamado grill. With a heat deflector it becomes a big coal-fired oven, but with the ability to throw in some smoking wood for flavoring.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 13, 2018, 02:36:40 PM
Sounds like she just needs to add an instant pot and an air fryer. And yeah, while expensive, the Vitamix is worth it. Juicing a basket full of tomatoes without peeling the skins is life changing.
The Vitamix is great... If you're lucky like me, you've got in-laws who buy a lot of stuff they'll never use, and just give it to SWMBO.
That's how we got ours :)
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Post by: rook119 on October 13, 2018, 02:44:09 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpaKhyeV4AUTGeb.jpg)
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 02:44:47 PM
That missed FG is looming large right now for Minny.
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Post by: mcwterps1 on October 13, 2018, 02:45:04 PM
That's not a first down in any sense of the term.
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1051151208264675329
Not a first down, but it is, when you're the face of the B1G. 
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 02:46:28 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpaKhyeV4AUTGeb.jpg)
Oh my...
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 13, 2018, 02:48:22 PM
How common are SoCal orchards? I was surprised to read SoCal and apples. /ignorance
It's as you start to get a little into the mountains. Over 4000 ft elevation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Glen,_San_Bernardino_County,_California
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 13, 2018, 02:49:01 PM
Lets see if the purple kitties can tie it up here.
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 02:53:43 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpaKhyeV4AUTGeb.jpg)
Not sure the AAC would take them back
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 02:53:48 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpaKhyeV4AUTGeb.jpg)
Reminds me of that M-UNL game where Martinez had like 15 attempts, with one long of 32 yards ... but 22 yards total. Meaning that the other 14 attempts went for negative-10 yards.
Of course, this is Rutger and different.
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 02:54:02 PM
They were setting that up all game, so credit to the Bucks for still defending there
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 02:55:02 PM
Eh, I’m flipping to Pitt/ND.  This game feels like it’s slipping away from Minnesota.
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 02:56:17 PM
Had it on mute, didn't realizing they were reviewing spot, not catch.  Trying to figure out what could possibly be in question there.
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 02:59:06 PM
Prince has lost all confidence
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Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 02:59:31 PM
Had it on mute, didn't realizing they were reviewing spot, not catch.  Trying to figure out what could possibly be in question there.
Huge break for Minny with error on the spot after interception.
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Post by: mcwterps1 on October 13, 2018, 02:59:40 PM
I don't agree with putting in the backups before the 3rd quarter is over, but I guess with us, keeping everyone healthy is job 1.
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 03:00:16 PM
I shouldn’t say this as a WVU fan but I love the 80s uniforms of Pitt.
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Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 03:00:37 PM
Prince has lost all confidence
For sure..    sadly, he was having a GREAT season up to today.    
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 03:01:29 PM
Had it on mute, didn't realizing they were reviewing spot, not catch.  Trying to figure out what could possibly be in question there.
I knew there was zero chance this was a safety, but it did lead to a question from me:
Do you remember that "controversial" (except it was by the book) punt/kick return bobble by Jabrill Peppers versus Purdue from 2014 or 2015? He was near the endzone, made contact with the ball in the field, but the punt's momentum followed into the endzone, where Peppers sat on it for a touchback, whereas Purdue fans expected a safety?
The situation there was all about momentum. (Had Peppers caught it, made a move and fumbled it backward, the situation would have been wholly different.) Is that just for punts or for INTs like this too? Clearly Pryor caught it in-play and the momentum carried him into the endzone. Obviously not a safety. 
I'm just asking if the rule book spells this out similarly as for punts/kickoffs ... or if the language has the same result but is not a safety for another reason.
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 03:01:48 PM
Pitt goes straight down the field on ND. 7-0.
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 03:05:15 PM
Huge break for Minny with error on the spot after interception.
I thought it was debatable. It wasn't at the 2 for sure. I thought it was either possessed at the 1 or in the endzone. I did think he got it in the field of play (but don't mind being doubted here), in which case even though a 1-yard spot might have been more true, a 2-yard spot was more friendly for OSU.
Also: except for the point of possession, I wasn't paying close attention. So please let me know if there was another factor that trumps "point where the ball is finally possessed" to you. For me, all I thought I noticed was that the ball was INT'd at ~1 yard line and that the Minnesota receiver (now a defender) immediately put hands on Pryor (now an offenseman), which I wondered might lead to that spot as one of forward progress.
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Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 03:06:52 PM
I thought it was debatable. It wasn't at the 2 for sure. I thought it was either possessed at the 1 or in the endzone. I did think he got it in the field of play (but don't mind being doubted here), in which case even though a 1-yard spot might have been more true, a 2-yard spot was more friendly for OSU.
He had possession in the end zone.   Simple touchback. 
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 03:08:51 PM
Woof
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 03:10:48 PM
He had possession in the end zone.   Simple touchback.
I edited my post and just want to be clear about yours. Are you saying that he eventually possessed the ball in the endzone or that he *only* ever possessed the ball in the endzone.
My thought was that (1) Pryor bobbled then caught and possessed the ball in the field of play, (2) was touched by the Minnesota receiver, and then (3) fell into the endzone still possessing the ball.
I figured that mix of possession and contact at the 1-yard line was key to the spot.
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 03:14:11 PM
Such a weird game.  OSU about to win 30-14.  Fanbase about to set fire to the team.
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Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 03:15:32 PM
I edited my post and just want to be clear about yours. Are you saying that he eventually possessed the ball in the endzone or that he *only* ever possessed the ball in the endzone.
My thought was that (1) Pryor bobbled then caught and possessed the ball in the field of play, (2) was touched by the Minnesota receiver, and then (3) fell into the endzone still possessing the ball.
I figured that mix of possession and contact at the 1-yard line was key to the spot.
It is the same as if he was an offensive player catching the ball.  Would it have been a TD?   Of course .    His momentum carried him into the end zone.   Touchback.  
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Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 03:16:45 PM
Woof
 An you imagine if Haskins was as accurate as other QBs on those kind of throws?
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 03:17:26 PM
It is the same as if he was an offensive player catching the ball.  Would it have been a TD?   Of course .    His momentum carried him into the end zone.   Touchback.  
That was the thing I was getting at. Thanks. I think the ref treated it as a "stopped forward progress" situation the second the Minnesota player touched Pryor.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 13, 2018, 03:19:17 PM
Purple kitties need to go 99 yards in 2:02 to tie Nebraska.
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 13, 2018, 03:21:41 PM
Last time I saw the Fleckster he had a full head of hair. Now he's Mister Clean. 
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 03:22:49 PM
Kitties giving it their best effort
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 03:23:44 PM
Last time I saw the Fleckster he had a full head of hair. Now he's Mister Clean.
Must have hit the line of demarcation on his head
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Post by: LetsGoPeay on October 13, 2018, 03:24:58 PM
IU finishes 4-8. Book it. 
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 03:25:50 PM
Kitties!
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 13, 2018, 03:27:54 PM
Dammit, Northwestern! This game is exciting, but I'm not going to keep watching, even OT, when I can switch over to Purdue!
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 03:30:56 PM
IU finishes 4-8. Book it.
Right there with you.
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Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 03:32:48 PM
Last time I saw the Fleckster he had a full head of hair. Now he's Mister Clean.
I really admire Fleck.    Damn fine coach- I would send my kid to play for him any time.  
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 13, 2018, 03:39:20 PM
NU one FG away from a win...
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 03:39:23 PM
Kitty power!
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 13, 2018, 03:40:09 PM
Northwestern pulls it off!
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 13, 2018, 03:40:34 PM
(https://i.gifer.com/JQX8.gif)
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 03:42:01 PM
Poor damn Nebraska.
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 03:42:57 PM
RIght up the gut on first down.  Dave Warner is the worst.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 13, 2018, 03:45:01 PM
I hate this song that seems to get piped into all sorts of NFL and NCAA games. 

According to my 11 yo, it's from Fortnite.

Clearly I'm old and out of touch...

...and I'm okay with that.
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 03:47:21 PM
Why would PSU not be double teaming Davis?  I think every other WR might be a walk on
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Post by: Huskerfan_12 on October 13, 2018, 03:51:55 PM
Nebraska radio is LIT right now! Didn't get to watch the game due to work. Listen to it on the radio on the way home.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 13, 2018, 03:52:58 PM
Nebraska radio is LIT right now! Didn't get to watch the game due to work. Listen to it on the radio on the way home.
What's the takeaway? Are they thinking Frost was a mistake, or is it just the normal sort of vitriol where they have no idea what to do with themselves after an 0-6 start?
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 03:53:18 PM
LSU gets a drive and a field goal. 3-0 
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 13, 2018, 03:54:23 PM
Illinois and Purdue trade punts. Ball back to the Illini about 5 minutes into the 1st.
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 03:55:15 PM
1st and goal for ND and Pitt sacks them on 3 consecutive plays.
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 03:58:20 PM
This is why you need to go to a 100% challenge system.  Why are you wasting all of our time reviewing a clear catch with not one, but two feet inbounds?  No coach would have wasted his time challenging that.
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 03:58:26 PM
Pitt goes into the break up 7-6.
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 04:01:29 PM
Lewerke needs to at least be solid to have a shot, and he continues to suck.
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 13, 2018, 04:01:49 PM
Pitt needs to stick with the classic unis.




I can't believe UNL lost!  
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Post by: rook119 on October 13, 2018, 04:03:32 PM
Pitt goes into the break up 7-6.
they have to complete passes to win this. problem is the WR/TEs are terrible. Even when Pickett was 5-6 on that 1st drive they were blanketed. 
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 13, 2018, 04:04:42 PM
Purdue down 7-0.

Dare a QB to beat you through the air, and then he throws a 52-yard wheel route to the RB. 
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 04:07:16 PM
Sam Ehlinger out of the game with an apparent injury for Texas.
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 04:07:26 PM
Going to be another long season.  At least we get to see some freshmen with all the injuries.  So there's that.
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 13, 2018, 04:07:46 PM
What's the takeaway? Are they thinking Frost was a mistake, or is it just the normal sort of vitriol where they have no idea what to do with themselves after an 0-6 start?
Looks like a little from column A and a little from column B. 
Nebraska boards haven't been in meltdown mode like this for years, mostly apathetic. 
Today, they are having a meltdown that make Penn St and Michigan meltdowns appear tame, by comparison. 
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 04:08:17 PM
Lewerke needs to at least be solid to have a shot, and he continues to suck.
What channel is that game on?  I can’t seem to find it.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 13, 2018, 04:08:57 PM
Purdue with a quick response. 7-7. Coaches remembered that forward passes are legal.
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 04:11:37 PM
UGA tried a fake FG and LSU was all over it.  Still 3-0 Tigers.
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 04:14:07 PM
What channel is that game on?  I can’t seem to find it.
BTN
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 04:14:40 PM
Back to back drops on perfect passes, what an absolute mess
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 04:14:50 PM
LSU with a first and goal to start the 2nd quarter.
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 04:15:35 PM
BTN
Ah, my son is playing video games on the TV that gets BTN.  Oh well.
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Post by: Huskerfan_12 on October 13, 2018, 04:16:16 PM
What's the takeaway? Are they thinking Frost was a mistake, or is it just the normal sort of vitriol where they have no idea what to do with themselves after an 0-6 start?
Not that Frost was a mistake but that in this game mistakes were made. Most of of the disdain is about letting NW going 99 yards with no timeouts. More of a " The Buck stops here" kinda thing.
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 04:16:44 PM
Know what it's like to be Minnesota, on the wrong end of a BS call that negates a turnover
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 04:18:33 PM
Know what it's like to be Minnesota, on the wrong end of a BS call that negates a turnover
Still forced the punt, but lost about 40 yards.  Nice to have a white walk on forced into punt return duty.  Should end well.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 13, 2018, 04:20:46 PM
Purdue with the jet sweep, then reverse to WR Jared Sparks [former QB], who throws a TD pass to Blough.

Boilers up 14-7. 
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 04:21:20 PM
Pitt returns the second half KO to the house.  14-6.
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 04:21:57 PM
Still forced the punt, but lost about 40 yards.  Nice to have a white walk on forced into punt return duty.  Should end well.
Ah, he's also our go to on 3rd down.  Three straight drops now.  Chambers and Towards shouldn't be playing at all
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 04:23:20 PM
OSU fans longing for the quarterback sneak watching Joe Burrow
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 04:25:14 PM
LSU up 9-0 on the Dawgs,Burrow can run pretty good actually
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 04:26:29 PM
Book throws his second INT of the game to kill a ND drive.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 04:29:11 PM
Wash-Ore tied at 10
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 04:29:19 PM
Glad we have a true freshman converted QB taking goal line carries
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 04:30:36 PM
Stand by my call that this is the worst MSU OL since I've cheered for them, which dates back to JLS.
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 04:32:56 PM
Ehlinger still out and Texas having trouble moving the ball.  7-6 Baylor.  Meanwhile, Memphis is up on UCF.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 04:35:05 PM
Purdue up 20-7 on the Illini
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 04:36:03 PM
LSU tacks on a FG.  13-0
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 04:40:07 PM
Trying to watch four games
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Post by: mcwterps1 on October 13, 2018, 04:41:59 PM
Where are the page numbers for posts? 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 04:43:53 PM
Chambers to the locker room, make it 4 of top 5 WRs out.  I literally think Felton David may be our only scholarship WR in the game.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 04:44:12 PM
Trying to watch four games
I’m flipping like crazy.  LOL.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 04:45:09 PM
TD for ND. 2 pt conversion no good.  Pitt up 14-12.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 04:46:12 PM
Aside from that one broken 75 yard run, MSUs defense has performed above expectations
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 04:50:29 PM
Sowards isn't even good by walk on standards
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 04:51:08 PM
Baylor up10-6 on the Horns
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 04:53:51 PM
Pitt goes into the 4th up 14-12.  1st and 10 inside the ND 40.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 04:55:38 PM
Also just learned 2 of the 3 freshmen we are redshirting are hurt, so it's not like we could even throw one in there with the new redshirt rule.  6 of 8 scholarship WRs unavailable.  I've never seen anything like that.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 04:56:42 PM
Wrap up, you idiots.  Don't body check them
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 04:56:48 PM
Gotta wrap up
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 04:57:24 PM
LSU tacks on another FG.  16-0.  UGA is officially on upset alert.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 04:58:33 PM
Wrap up, you idiots.  Don't body check them
I could have run for a TD on that.  I'd bench every single guy who "attempted" a tackle there for the next series, including Bachie
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 04:59:50 PM
MSU won't score another point
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 05:01:51 PM
I could have run for a TD on that.  I'd bench every single guy who "attempted" a tackle there for the next series, including Bachie
My post was 4 seconds later saying the same thing.Gonna be tough on Lewerke missing the fleet
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 05:03:21 PM
Jeebis when is PSU gonna deep 6 that weak cat growl.Alright Sparty gets a break
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 05:04:06 PM
Trick plays and PSU penalties are our only offense.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 05:05:09 PM
Jeebis when is PSU gonna deep 6 that weak cat growl
It's very small time, I'm shocked it's still a thing.  The Lions at least used to use it, not sure if they still do.  That is worthy of that franchise, not PSU
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 05:05:53 PM
You have to get Sowards out of there. I'd rather use a reserve DB, he already has 4 drops
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 05:06:19 PM
Nice scramble Lew
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 05:09:01 PM
Stand by my call that this is the worst MSU OL since I've cheered for them, which dates back to JLS.
Maybe. But the run game is far better today, despite the competition ramping up. What's your thought on that?
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 05:09:50 PM
Wash. up 17-10 on Ore
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 05:10:39 PM
Keep it up Sparty
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 05:10:44 PM
Maybe. But the run game is far better today, despite the competition ramping up. What's your thought on that?
Did you see them need 4 plays to score from the 1?  It's been slightly better I guess., But still horrible.  Particularly considering PSU could probably cover the one scholarship WR we are playing, and commit everyone else to pressuring the backfield.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 05:11:33 PM
Where are the page numbers for posts?
Temporarily invisible (on mobile only). Drew acknowledged he was doing work on code and accidentally hid them. Says they'll be back within the week (I think).
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 05:12:28 PM
Considering I'm not confident the offensive personnel we are running out there right now would even be a good spring game split squad offense, I'm not overly convinced we should have called a timeout there.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 05:14:39 PM
Considering I'm not confident the offensive personnel we are running out there right now would even be a good spring game split squad offense, I'm not overly convinced we should have called a timeout there.
PSU could take knees the rest of the game and win.  MSU isn't winning absent a special teams or defensive score.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 05:15:22 PM
Jeebis when is PSU gonna deep 6 that weak cat growl.Alright Sparty gets a break
Probably ... never. They are full in on piped hype. They honestly shouldn't even have a band anymore. Just put 100 speakers on 100 radio flyer red wagons and have volunteers drag them across the field pregame and at halftime. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 05:16:27 PM
Apparently they are scared to give PSU 60 yards with 8 seconds?
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 05:16:36 PM
Damn I'd have tried it PSU wouldn't have been much better off
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 05:17:09 PM
Probably ... never. They are full in on piped hype. They honestly shouldn't even have a band anymore. Just put 100 speakers on 100 radio flyer red wagons and have volunteers drag them across the field pregame and at halftime.
No question, it's an embarrassment.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 05:17:27 PM
Did you see them need 4 plays to score from the 1?  It's been slightly better I guess., But still horrible.  Particularly considering PSU could probably cover the one scholarship WR we are playing, and commit everyone else to pressuring the backfield.
I did. The last series was bad, too. Still, when I posted, they were above 4.2 or so per rush. Which ... is average. And against a good D.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 05:18:14 PM
Adam we've had the same takes at the same moments - Great Minds.But ya what the hell were the thinking with a TO left
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 05:19:25 PM
ND forces a punt.  Takes over it at its own 20 with 7:26 left, down 14-12.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 13, 2018, 05:20:29 PM
Purdue with 404 yards total offense.

Crap. That's like a good Hazell day.

[Checks stats again...]

Oh, that was just the first half? Carry on :)
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 13, 2018, 05:21:17 PM
Purdue up 29-7 at the half. Purdue to receive the 2nd half kickoff.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 05:25:25 PM
TD for ND.  19-14 with 5:43 to go.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 05:25:58 PM
ND finally gets a lead. Now needs a stop
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 05:29:43 PM
I did. The last series was bad, too. Still, when I posted, they were above 4.2 or so per rush. Which ... is average. And against a good D.
Also counts like 50 yards on a fake punt run.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 05:32:21 PM
Also counts like 50 yards on a fake punt run.
Missed that while flipping. I did hear there were some trick plays on one drive. Classic MD
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 05:33:21 PM
Pitt tries a fake punt that ND was simply waiting on.  19-14 with roughly 3:30 to play.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 05:33:32 PM
That tug on the ND defender they ignored was more aggregious than the phantom PI they called on Pitt last drive
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 05:34:21 PM
Missed that while flipping. I did hear there were some trick plays on one drive. Classic MD
Fake punt run for like 45-50, halfback pass for 30.  That's our offense at this point with mostly walk on on the field.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 05:34:52 PM
Ore and Texas both take leads
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 05:36:48 PM
Big mistake by Book to slide rather than dive there.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 05:37:02 PM
ND with a 4th and 1 at the Pitt 36 with 2:28 left.  Pitt just took its last timeout.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 05:37:27 PM
The extent to which some of these favorites (ND, OSU, PSU) are failing expectations is making me very nervous about 7:30.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 05:38:15 PM
Wow, Brian Kelly goes full stupid
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 05:38:59 PM
Panthers stop them.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 05:39:46 PM
Big mistake by Book to slide rather than dive there.
Enormously.
Not sure what to root for here. I suppose if Michigan takes care of business, it doesn't matter what ND does. In that case, go Fighting Narduzzis! That guy looks good in blue, btw. The whole team looks great, actually. Really crisp uniforms today.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 05:42:44 PM
Ore and Texas both take leads
CBS is goofy 5 minutes ago they had ore up 23-22 now it 17-17 SMDH
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 05:43:24 PM
Chambers playing through an apparent broken finger, probably still better than Sowards.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 05:44:26 PM
Alright Sparty for 16 nice
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 05:44:59 PM
Fuck you Pitt.  We don’t need your help.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 05:45:59 PM
Nice snag by Davis there
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 05:46:36 PM
I like Heywards ability, but his vision is not that of a running back.  Probably wouldn't be there if not a need.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 05:48:09 PM
Chambers playing through an apparent broken finger, probably still better than Sowards.
And the first pass to him deflects off his wrapped hand for a pick.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 05:48:16 PM
Well Sparty has a long rowe to hoe
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 05:49:15 PM
I'm settled into this one for good. Just noticed that Chewins tackle on the INT. Tough deflection there, but the effort by Chewins was good. He looked limber. Is he 100% back? Or doing well?
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 05:50:47 PM
Wow defense stands tall again.  Two horrible big plays surrendered and that has literally been it.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 05:50:55 PM
MSU slips back in
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 05:51:56 PM
The extent to which some of these favorites (ND, OSU, PSU) are failing expectations is making me very nervous about 7:30.
So, your worried that your team will win, but not cover the spread?
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 05:52:17 PM
I'm settled into this one for good. Just noticed that Chewins tackle on the INT. Tough deflection there, but the effort by Chewins was good. He looked limber. Is he 100% back? Or doing well?
He says he is, he sure doesnt look it protecting the pocket.  But when they've rolled Lewerke out, they've rolled him left, and he's looked better.  If it's a back injury, I wonder if he has his mobility back, but going straight up still hurts.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 05:53:55 PM
Crap Domers get it done
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 05:57:12 PM
TD nice drive Sparty
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 05:58:32 PM
So, your worried that your team will win, but not cover the spread?
Ha. If only. Our opponent is tougher than PSU's, ND's, and OSU's, so a Wisconsinward shift of 10ish in the spread is the difference between win and loss. Of course, these things are half-superstitious. But the other half is that, clearly, predicting football games is very very hard. That's the part that's sticking with me.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 05:58:41 PM
Well announcers and Mike Pierera think it shouldn't just be upheld, but confirmed, so surely the booth will overturn it.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 06:01:12 PM
Don't call them Shirley
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 06:07:10 PM
I have a hard time getting a handle on PSU.
I have an equally hard time getting a handle on 2018-McSorley.

Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 06:07:19 PM
Sparty defense standing up today.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 06:09:20 PM
I have a hard time getting a handle on PSU.
I have an equally hard time getting a handle on 2018-McSorley.


His OL isn't doing him a ton of favors.  Getting more pressure with 4 than I've seen all year.  He's throwing into 7 man coverages with a guy in his face most of the time.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 06:10:21 PM
Lewerke seems to have no grasp of the fact that the field has width and length.  He throws short passes all the way across the field like they are dump offs
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 06:11:24 PM
Who the hell is Welch?
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 06:12:21 PM
Who the hell is Welch?
Apparently yet another walk on
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 06:15:38 PM
How is that not reviewed?  Second turnover the refs have stolen.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 06:18:36 PM
Holding on PSU
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 06:19:05 PM
Texas misses a short FG.  Still up 23-17 over Baylor.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 06:19:16 PM
How is that not reviewed?  Second turnover the refs have stolen.
It's maddening how often that particular error happens. I'm not an insider; don't actually know how it is, but I am guessing that whereas the review room needs to be militarily regimented (alert, rigorous, fast), it generally feels like they're lounging ("oh, what?, should I call down, let me look, hmm ... oops they snapped").
I hear that job goes to retirees. Maybe they are great and I am undervaluing. But the symptoms and that fact does not inspire confidence.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 06:19:32 PM
Beefed it
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 06:19:48 PM
Ball don't lie
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 06:22:33 PM
It's maddening how often that particular error happens. I'm not an insider; don't actually know how it is, but I am guessing that whereas the review room needs to be militarily regimented (alert, rigorous, fast), it generally feels like they're lounging ("oh, what?, should I call down, let me look, hmm ... oops they snapped").
I hear that job goes to retirees. Maybe they are great and I am undervaluing. But the symptoms and that fact does not inspire confidence.
It at least used to.  Dick Hoenig, who was a ref for a while, then retired and opened his own reffing goods store in Ann Arbor, was one of the initial one.  I believe he's the one who beefed the Brandon Minor call in 2008, where the pilon was laying out of bounds and Minor landed on it well out of bounds, and he overturned the call in perhaps the worst replay overturn of all time
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 06:26:51 PM
Way to seize momentum
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: rook119 on October 13, 2018, 06:27:04 PM
its 2018 and the FG cam that B1GN uses displays everything in 240p. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 06:27:54 PM
Seems like their TE is open every time they look at him
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 06:31:04 PM
Xavier Henderson is not ready for this moment.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 06:32:45 PM
its 2018 and the FG cam that B1GN uses displays everything in 240p.
It's that an joke-estimate or precisely the case? I know the real answer is bad but am not sure if it's also pitiful.
#thepeopleinchargeofthingsareinchargeforbadreasons
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 06:33:04 PM
Good non call
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 06:33:39 PM
Lions get 3 c'mon Sparty
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 06:33:46 PM
After the replay of the previous play showed a straight up tackle on the defender, might not want to boo a no PI
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: CatsbyAZ on October 13, 2018, 06:35:09 PM
Enjoying this Penn State Michigan State game
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 06:35:47 PM
Great job limiting PSU to 3.

Meanwhile the LSU Burrows are putting away Georgia.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 06:35:51 PM
LSU up 26-9.  Just about ready to put this one to bed.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 06:38:57 PM
Georgia in deep trouble
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 06:39:55 PM
Can't believe he caught that
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 06:41:46 PM
How has PSUs DC not yet figured out MSU has one healthy scholarship WR?
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 06:44:33 PM
PSU got away with an unnecessary roughing call after that run.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 06:45:05 PM
Saw earlier today LSU has won something like six straight at home against top 10 teams...


...not named Alabama.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 06:45:17 PM
Jefferson nice run
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 06:45:38 PM
Baylor down 6 with the ball and a little over 5 minutes to play
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: rook119 on October 13, 2018, 06:47:25 PM
It's that an joke-estimate or precisely the case? I know the real answer is bad but am not sure if it's also pitiful.
#thepeopleinchargeofthingsareinchargeforbadreasons
the image is blurry and not stablized if they'd use it more I'd probably get sick
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 06:48:34 PM
BTW Washington Oregon also a heck of a game
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 06:50:33 PM
Dantonio ain't trying to tie
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 06:51:28 PM
I don't get it,why not go for it at the end of the 1st half?.Credit for the gutsy call but ya might not have had to
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 06:51:44 PM
I don't mind playing for the lead there, but not like that.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 06:52:07 PM
Live by the sword; die by it, too. I think MD would call it exactly the same if he could retry, though. It hurts to come away without points, but that itch to try is in his bones.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 06:55:51 PM
MSU has all 3x outs,make it work MD
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 06:56:07 PM
I love that about MD.  Balls!
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 06:56:10 PM
What the hell PSU - I flip to LSU and flip back to see them punting, after like a minute has run, and MSU still has all their timeouts.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 06:56:37 PM
Burrow just ripped off a 60 yard run to seal it.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 13, 2018, 06:58:32 PM
Gary was a game time decision. Sounds like he’s out. 

That’s HUGE for Wisconsin. Gary is probably the best run defending DE in the entire sport. What does Wisconsin wanna do? Run, run, run and run some more.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 06:58:53 PM
I love that about MD.  Balls!
Not at the end of the 1st half.Virtually the same scenario with a TO and 8 seconds and he punts.Literally there was no harm taking a chance there
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 07:00:19 PM
Burrow just ripped off a 60 yard run to seal it.
Ya know had Urban played him & Haskins last season with the beef on those lines.What could have been .....
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: rook119 on October 13, 2018, 07:00:55 PM
oregon has a top 10 pick at QB and they saved their timeouts to ice the Washington kicker
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 07:01:01 PM
The PSU OL has consistently lost the battle today. Often overwhelmingly. Their lead is 100% about the PSU>>>MSU skill position margin.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 13, 2018, 07:02:47 PM
The PSU OL has consistently lost the battle today. Often overwhelmingly. Their lead is 100% about the PSU>>>MSU skill position margin.
Agree. MSU has won this game at the LoS and they still might lose. That’s rare.
Usually you win that match up front you win the game.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 07:03:03 PM
Be nice if Badgers/Wolves is as close as this
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: rook119 on October 13, 2018, 07:03:34 PM
oregon has a top 10 pick at QB and they saved their timeouts to ice the Washington kicker
Hey it worked! 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 07:04:51 PM
The amount of hate thrown at Meyer and Harbaugh vs. Franklin is quite curious.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 07:05:33 PM
Got it right thankfully 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 07:05:44 PM
Baylor inside the Texas 20 with under 20 seconds left.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 07:06:14 PM
Gary was a game time decision. Sounds like he’s out.

That’s HUGE for Wisconsin. Gary is probably the best run defending DE in the entire sport. What does Wisconsin wanna do? Run, run, run and run some more.
Where are you seeing that? I can't find it elsewhere yet.
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Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 07:06:34 PM
Agree. MSU has won this game at the LoS and they still might lose. That’s rare.
Usually you win that match up front you win the game.
Happened to the Gophers today.   
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 07:07:39 PM
Texas survives.
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 07:07:44 PM
The amount of hate thrown at Meyer and Harbaugh vs. Franklin is quite curious.
From their own fans? Completely agree. His in-game decision making has always been suspect. 
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 13, 2018, 07:08:28 PM
UW kicker pooped the bed. 
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 07:08:43 PM
Huge mistake by McSorley
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 13, 2018, 07:09:53 PM
On PSU's weak growl:
USCe has a very strong rooster crow they play incessantly
Miss State pipes in fake crowd noise
Auburn alternates between eagle cries and strong tiger growls


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Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 07:11:13 PM
Nelson c'mon sparty
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Post by: Mdot21 on October 13, 2018, 07:13:29 PM
How many INTs is Lewerke going to throw right to the other team and they drop? 

I’ve seen at least 3. 

He sure gets away with a lot of stupid throws. 
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 07:13:51 PM
Damn Nelson down back-back injuries
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 13, 2018, 07:14:20 PM
How does MSU have 10 more 1st downs than PSU, yet PSU is averaging 6.4 ypc?  
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 07:15:16 PM
25 seconds one TO left
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 07:15:41 PM
They do it,what a fookin' contest.Top that Bucky & Weasels - WOW
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Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 07:16:34 PM
Yessss!
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 07:17:36 PM
How does MSU have 10 more 1st downs than PSU, yet PSU is averaging 6.4 ypc?  
Only one stat that counts - just win baby
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 07:18:28 PM
13 seconds left,white knuckler
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 07:19:17 PM
PSU fans getting some long ride home lately
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Post by: Mdot21 on October 13, 2018, 07:19:42 PM
Wanted MSU to win. Thought it’d bode better for Michigan next week. 

Having said that, I have been thoroughly unimpressed with Lewerke. Penn State blew that game. Lewerke threw INTs right to their dbs that should’ve ended that game many times over.
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 07:21:51 PM
Congrats MSU/PSU The Lions have gotten their hearts ripped out at home the last 2 games there
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 13, 2018, 07:22:16 PM
I really thought it would be an overtime forcing FG instead of a TD. 

Nice win, Sparty. 
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 07:23:03 PM
Wanted MSU to win. Thought it’d bode better for Michigan next week.

Having said that, I have been thoroughly unimpressed with Lewerke. Penn State blew that game. Lewerke threw INTs right to their dbs that should’ve ended that game many times over.

Good teams capitalize 
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 13, 2018, 07:24:02 PM
Took 2 plays for Bama to score a TD.  Took 2 plays to get the ball back from Mizzou.  10-0 in the blink of an eye.  Sheesh.
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 07:25:10 PM
Yup, sounds like Black is still out. And Gary is in street clothes. Woof.

Solomon and Dwumfour are dressed. And we're really going to need them. 

Kwity Paye. Step into the spotlight. It's your time.
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Post by: GopherRock on October 13, 2018, 07:26:08 PM
It at least used to.  Dick Hoenig, who was a ref for a while, then retired and opened his own reffing goods store in Ann Arbor, was one of the initial one.  I believe he's the one who beefed the Brandon Minor call in 2008, where the pilon was laying out of bounds and Minor landed on it well out of bounds, and he overturned the call in perhaps the worst replay overturn of all time
Hoenig's Referee Supplies was a thing when I started reffing in 2003.
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Post by: Mdot21 on October 13, 2018, 07:27:14 PM
Good teams capitalize
100%.
Penn State DBs had way too many chances to end that game. Blew them all. 
You want to be a great db? You gotta make those plays. Period. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 13, 2018, 07:31:05 PM
Yup, sounds like Black is still out. And Gary is in street clothes. Woof.

Solomon and Dwumfour are dressed. And we're really going to need them.

Kwity Paye. Step into the spotlight. It's your time.
Gary should’ve had off season shoulder surgery. 
Or at least sat out every game post ND. 
They really mishandled him. It’s a freaking joke.
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 07:33:23 PM
Gary should’ve had off season shoulder surgery.
Or at least sat out every game post ND.
They really mishandled him. It’s a freaking joke.
That's conjecture. We don't have enough of his personal medical details to know.
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Post by: Mdot21 on October 13, 2018, 07:35:23 PM
That's conjecture. We don't have enough of his personal medical details to know.
Maybe. 
At the very least should’ve sat him vs WMU, SMU, Nebraska, and Northwestern. He wasn’t needed. Let him rest. Why risk it??
He aggravated things worse and is now out vs Wisc.
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 07:36:35 PM
I think ELA has left us for the next little while. Off running. Through the quad.
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 13, 2018, 07:38:27 PM
Bring your green hat!
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 07:40:43 PM
One of my PSUCOM buds is at some major Nittany bar in DFW. Sounds like that special cocktail of apoplexy and being generally inconsolable. Michigan fans know that one.
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 07:41:19 PM
Alright Whisky & Weasels have at it
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 07:43:13 PM
One of my PSUCOM buds is at some major Nittany bar in DFW. Sounds like that special cocktail of apoplexy and being generally inconsolable. Michigan fans know that one.
Stop using that language around here
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Post by: FearlessF on October 13, 2018, 07:44:22 PM
Dodgers win
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 07:45:53 PM
Dodgers win
Who are these Dodgers you speak of?Please report to MDoT
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 07:47:12 PM
Literally had the ribs timed on the grill for the end of the game, figured no way MSU with a second team offense was winning in Happy Valley.
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 07:51:40 PM
WVU trails for the first time this season.  13-7 ISU.  Just missed the XP.  We’ll see if that comes back to bite them.
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Post by: rook119 on October 13, 2018, 07:53:02 PM
I'm no defensive mastermind but WVU's stragety should be to tackle that Montgomery guy
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 07:55:57 PM
Hell of a snag by Higedon there
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 13, 2018, 07:56:21 PM
M moving the sticks
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 07:58:20 PM
Patterson seems too eager to ditch the pocket
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 07:58:36 PM
Welp
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:00:00 PM
Eff. Fine drive to start. Could have really used that Milton snap we set on fire (there's something there [I defer to coaches as better at this than I] but I didn't "get it"). But no points hurts. That drive deserved points. Come on Nordin. This style of game, you're needed so bad.
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:00:53 PM
Patterson seems too eager to ditch the pocket
He has been eager, but I don't think too eager. It's not because of pressure. It's because these are short routes and covered. It's the smart move.
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 08:03:08 PM
Taylor not easy to tackle
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:05:20 PM
Hornibrook with and without pressure is ENTIRELY different.
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:09:19 PM
We'll keep missing Gary, and the DL depth isn't like in 2016 (may be next year), but with Winovich/Kemp/Mone/Paye being spelled by Uche/Dwumfour/Solomon/Hutchinson ... we can do this.
I'm wondering if maybe between having only Gary or Dwumfour+Solomon (a senseless-means-nothing "choice" but stay with me), that this is the beter scenario. 
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:12:08 PM
Commercial-Punt-Commercial? 
Woof. Telecasters have too much power over our game.
i ADORE the fact that Michigan Stadium is one of two spots nationwide without in-stadium advertising. But, honestly, let's go the FIFA route and paste the field and jerseys with subliminals if it means we can have zero commercials during each quarter.
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 08:15:10 PM
Now that's how you take advantage of an inexperienced secondary.  Wiscy's safety still trying to figure out what happened
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:15:14 PM
Time for BENCH Mason
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 08:16:08 PM
Was that a double touchdown?
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:17:38 PM
This moment will be relived poorly for me if Michigan loses, but that was shades of ... Steven Threat v. Wisconsin. Except of course about everything else about Michigan being entirely the opposite.
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 08:18:13 PM
Man ball TD Wolvies
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:18:30 PM
Was that a double touchdown?
Unusual, right? Higdon never fumbles. Maybe we just learned why. Vice grip. Caught Shea's arm and stole his body for the ride.
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Post by: rook119 on October 13, 2018, 08:19:04 PM
WVU rarely plays a complete game. You tune into them at the right time and you'll think they are surefire favs to win the B12. However just about every single week they usually go through long stretches where they look more like say Illinois than a playoff team. They are in one of those stretches right now. 

They'll probably play a lot better during this game but they better get out of this funk before its 27-7
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 08:19:32 PM
Unusual, right? Higdon never fumbles. Maybe we just learned why. Vice grip. Caught Shea's arm and stole his body for the ride.
Tempting the football gods tonight are we?
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:19:40 PM
This game is *flying* by.
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:20:23 PM
Tempting the football gods tonight are we?
Superstition is for ... not me. Also: apparently yes.
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 08:23:11 PM
Some ridiculous blocking on that drive
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:23:51 PM
That was a failure at multiple levels. Woof. And to finish it off, Watson bit hard and removed himself from the play. Wierdest.
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:24:50 PM
Some ridiculous blocking on that drive
That drive made me regret my comment about Solomon/Dwumfour over Gary.
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:26:23 PM
Need a halftime Don Brown adjustment already. Also need every offensive drive to score this half (just one? two tops).
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 08:26:29 PM
That drive made me regret my comment about Solomon/Dwumfour over Gary.
Yeah, they could use their freak of nature to tackle Wiscy's freak of nature.
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:29:22 PM
eff. 60y punt, plz
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:29:51 PM
eff. 60y punt, plz
Universe listens not.
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 08:32:01 PM
Looks like the Big Ten football gods are going to deliver a hell of a triple header today.
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:32:10 PM
I don't understand that Ambry end-around. Setting up a ... fake end-around?
Stop trying to be that variety of creative. Work the slot, TE, deep and out routes passing and the creative FB/HB blocking on the ground. That's your system.
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Post by: rook119 on October 13, 2018, 08:35:07 PM
wow totally dominated and have to chance to only go down by 6 at the half.
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 08:35:31 PM
Not sure what kind of blocking set up that was supposed to be
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:36:58 PM
Please pass every down, UW. Not because Hornibrook isn't great but because Michigan without Gary operates at a FAR higher level versus that. Taylor meanwhile is a morcellator. He's ruining us. Gary's job is to force that edge in by yards on the run. Woof do we miss him.
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:43:27 PM
My goodness! 
/1880s.
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:44:22 PM
I am really nervous about Nordin tonight. Normally I love him. But that miss. And then Rece mentioned how erratic he was pregame. Effie eff.
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 08:45:28 PM
I wonder what PFF rates that pass
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:46:22 PM
I wonder what PFF rates that pass
Haha. You guys.
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Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 08:47:45 PM
ISU completely outplaying WVU but still just a 20-14 game due to a blocked FG returned for a TD by WVU.
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 08:47:54 PM
Well Wiscy making them earn it nearer the end zone
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:48:50 PM
Mgoblog mentioned this week that Wildgoose decommitted twice late in the last recruiting cycle and that teams, including Wisconsin, had to go on "an eponymous chase" to get him. I thought that was hilarious.
/loveswordplay
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:52:25 PM
Kwity is a future favorite of mine.
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 08:52:46 PM
I can't recall ever seeing the UW line this overmatched 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 13, 2018, 08:53:53 PM
WVU rarely plays a complete game. You tune into them at the right time and you'll think they are surefire favs to win the B12. However just about every single week they usually go through long stretches where they look more like say Illinois than a playoff team. They are in one of those stretches right now.

They'll probably play a lot better during this game but they better get out of this funk before its 27-7
I want to see a simple 6 yard hitch right out of the gate in the second half.  Grier is holding the damn ball way too long.  ISU is playing soft on the outside.
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 08:55:12 PM
The concerns about Patterson's fumbling were no joke
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 13, 2018, 08:56:47 PM
What origin is a name like "Dwunfour"???  
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 08:56:59 PM
Why is Wisconsin not calling timeout?  Just to at least give Michigan consequences for a failed hail Mary.  Now they can do it risk free.
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:57:33 PM
Wisconsin should have called TO there. At ~30. Not to guarantee they'd drive, but to make M uncomfy about kicking.
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 08:58:52 PM
I can't recall ever seeing the UW line this overmatched
You mean their DL, right? Because their OL has been fantastic. It evened out a bit there at the end, but still. They're doing work.
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Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 09:00:37 PM
I can't recall ever seeing the UW line this overmatched
They don’t look overmatched on running plays at all.  Hell, even on pass plays, they seem to be doing great man v man, they just can’t figure out where the extra guy(s) are coming from on Browns blitz schemes.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:00:44 PM
In order to make the end of that half count, Michigan needs to score first. **Usually**, these twenty nonregulation minutes is when Don Brown does his best work, so maybe it doesn't have to be that first drive. But, no, points on this next drive. Need them for the score to be proportional to the game so far.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:13:27 PM
Why is Wisconsin not calling timeout?  Just to at least give Michigan consequences for a failed hail Mary.  Now they can do it risk free.
I felt the same way. We're not the only ones:
https://twitter.com/BPredict/status/1051277337059356672
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 09:24:29 PM
Never tempt the football gods
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:24:33 PM
YOU HAVE BENCH MASON. /usehim
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:26:43 PM
That's a worst case scenario for UW. Not only the penalty. But they had to disrespect Cheeseman to get it.
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 09:27:35 PM
You mean their DL, right? Because their OL has been fantastic. It evened out a bit there at the end, but still. They're doing work.
Eh, they've been ok on run plays, pass plays, ick.
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 09:31:03 PM
Why does a random hot chick follow Rece Davis to the buffet line for small talk in that ad?  Is that his wife?  Does he just make girls thirsty?
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:34:08 PM
[Exhale ... still exhaling]
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Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 09:34:50 PM
That's a worst case scenario for UW. Not only the penalty. But they had to disrespect Cheeseman to get it.
Game changing call.   Feel bad for badgers there, kind of borderline. 
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 13, 2018, 09:36:16 PM
Ole Miss is losing the SEC's Toilet Bowl by 10.  Yes, the same team that beat Texas Tech, who beat Okie St and TCU.  
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Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 09:36:54 PM
Sad to see Anthony Carter these days
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:41:01 PM
Badge said we'd stack the box. I said that wasn't DB's style. Lookie who wasn't correct (me)
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 09:42:10 PM
Hornibrook finally made a tough throw and his WR drops it.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:43:46 PM
Sad to see Anthony Carter these days
I feel the same. I wish Michigan were more driven to compensate him in proportion to his legend. That's not capitalism, I get it. But it's family.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 09:44:09 PM
Is Gerard Butler even trying anymore?  He was a borderline A star like a decade ago.  Nownits like if a shitty action movie is even too shitty for Liam Neeson or Jason Stadham, call Butler.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:44:57 PM
Hornibrook finally made a tough throw and his WR drops it.
Finally? I thought 2 of his first three throws (all completions) were to tiny windows. Of course, then he nerfed 4 or 5 in a row. So I guess I'm not outright objecting to your comment, just clarifying that it's his first in a while, not first overall.
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 13, 2018, 09:45:06 PM
Ole Hornibrook isn't going to have too many completions that go over 20 yards down the field in the air tonight. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 09:45:22 PM
I feel the same. I wish Michigan were more driven to compensate him in proportion to his legend. That's not capitalism, I get it. But it's family.
I met him and John Wangler, god maybe 20 years ago, and even then, my 12ish year old self could tell something was off.  Wangler was sharp as a tack
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:48:27 PM
Ha, the hell, Harbaugh. Who's mind are you trying to mess with?
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:49:21 PM
I met him and John Wangler, god maybe 20 years ago, and even then, my 12ish year old self could tell something was off.  Wangler was sharp as a tack
They were both on the GameDay set before noon. Same. Gotdammit.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:51:48 PM
Agree with Herbs and Fowler. Don Brown tries to make teams one dimensional and then takes them over. This is the plan.
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:53:13 PM
SOLOMON SIGHTING! /lookedgood
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:54:40 PM
If this isn't a fake, Chryst is an archaic punter.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 09:54:58 PM
Honestly not sure why Wiscy is throwing at all
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:55:03 PM
If this isn't a fake, Chryst is an archaic punter.
Noted.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 09:55:39 PM
Wow, pass/punt on 3rd and 3 down 14 in UM territory?  Not a fan of UWs management of much tonight
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 09:56:03 PM
I get being conservative, but man, throwing on third down and short and then punting from there is some Strom Thurmond levels of conservative
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 09:56:11 PM
Honestly not sure why Wiscy is throwing at all
Because now that it's predictable, assuming it stays predictable, it's over. They can still gash, but the box is stacked against them. That's not how Michigan usually plays. Usually they read. Right now, they're crashing. That's a schematic disadvantage for UW.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 09:57:02 PM
Wow, pass/punt on 3rd and 3 down 14 in UM territory?  Not a fan of UWs management of much tonight
Weird when Michigan isn’t stopping runs.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 09:58:08 PM
Because now that it's predictable, assuming it stays predictable, it's over. They can still gash, but the box is stacked against them. That's not how Michigan usually plays. Usually they read. Right now, they're crashing. That's a schematic disadvantage for UW.
Sure, but they are running the ball well, even against the loaded box.  Hell of a lot better than they are throwing it.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 10:00:57 PM
Sure, but they are running the ball well, even against the loaded box.  Hell of a lot better than they are throwing it.
I agree. But they need a huge chunk. It's unrealistic to move down the field in 2-7 yard chunks against this defense. 5-7 is great. That realistic potential isn't the problem. It's the variance against a newly stacked box that is the issue. All it takes is two out of three snaps on the low end to force a punt. That's ... not improbable. UW has this incredible strength but is stuck not able to fully deploy it like they want.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: rook119 on October 13, 2018, 10:02:34 PM
I know they'll just be 3-3 but the schedule has been crazy hard and ISU deserves to be ranked after this. 

This is a straight up beatdown, and really it should be like 44-7 right now. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 13, 2018, 10:06:52 PM
So now the B1G West title runs through Penn State? 

That's kind of funny. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 10:13:37 PM
So now the B1G West title runs through Penn State?

That's kind of funny.
It's 11-minutes from finished. But yes that's one potential implication. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 10:14:14 PM
I agree. But they need a huge chunk. It's unrealistic to move down the field in 2-7 yard chunks against this defense. 5-7 is great. That realistic potential isn't the problem. It's the variance against a newly stacked box that is the issue. All it takes is two out of three snaps on the low end to force a punt. That's ... not improbable. UW has this incredible strength but is stuck not able to fully deploy it like they want.
Sure, but the problem is they aren't going down the field, so even if they complete these passes they wouldn't get much yardage.  Also all their chunks have come in the run game. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: TyphonInc on October 13, 2018, 10:15:35 PM
Ole Hornibrook isn't going to have too many completions that go over 20 yards down the field in the air tonight.
pick 6 on Horny-book.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 13, 2018, 10:16:46 PM
Wisconsin eerily resembles Maryland this year.

This looks very similar to our game last week at Michigan.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 13, 2018, 10:19:20 PM
Wisconsin is awful. But they will probably still win the West. 

The schedule sets up okay for Iowa I suppose, getting Penn St at home while Wisconsin has to play them on the road. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MarqHusker on October 13, 2018, 10:20:32 PM
Good to see the shaky camera at Jack Trice Stadium remains a staple.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 10:22:43 PM
Sure, but the problem is they aren't going down the field, so even if they complete these passes they wouldn't get much yardage.  Also all their chunks have come in the run game.
I'm not vehemently disagreeing. Just pointing out how stuck. Like on this drive. Variance is what's forcing the 4th. And the runs are killing the clock. Double whammy.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 10:23:50 PM
pick 6 on Horny-book.
Went more than 20 yards!
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 10:24:31 PM
Miami takes a pair of personal would to lose the game at Virginia.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 10:25:09 PM
Wisconsin is awful. But they will probably still win the West.

The schedule sets up okay for Iowa I suppose, getting Penn St at home while Wisconsin has to play them on the road.
I don’t think Wisconsin is awful at all.  Give credit to the Wolverines. They have played extremely well on offense and defense, using both muscle and speed. They choked the life out of the Badgers over time.  
Plus, road games in conference are HARD, and against a really good team even HARDER, plus at night—exceedingly HARD.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 13, 2018, 10:27:07 PM
awful is my usual hyperbole. Rutgers is awful. 

Wisconsin is good by B1G West standards, but would not fare very well in the B1G East, imo. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 10:27:41 PM
Wisconsin eerily resembles Maryland this year.

This looks very similar to our game last week at Michigan.
There are some similarities. And though it's hard to say whether UW deserves a ranking this high, and though their competition has been mediocre, I do think they are on a different level than UMds.
Similarity: Both have explosive run games. Difference: forgive me, but UW's is far more durable/reliable (impossible to put under Michigan's thumb).
They are also very similar on defense.
The QBs are very different, though. Hornibrook is actually great - one of the Big Ten's best. But Michigan is by far the best pass defense in america. They're ruining Alex in a major way. By design.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 13, 2018, 10:27:59 PM
Ah, I could have beat Michigan.

RPO with Piggy and WR screens are Don Brown's nightmare. I know this.  He was OUR DC at one time.

The offense only moved when Piggy got in the game. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 10:29:26 PM
Down goes WVU
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 10:29:47 PM
:- )
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: rook119 on October 13, 2018, 10:30:07 PM
Really ISU would have just about beaten anyone tonight. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 10:31:00 PM
When it's his time, McCaffery will be fun.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 10:31:45 PM
There are some similarities. And though it's hard to say whether UW deserves a ranking this high, and though their competition has been mediocre, I do think they are on a different level than UMds.
Similarity: Both have explosive run games. Difference: forgive me, but UW's is far more durable/reliable (impossible to put under Michigan's thumb).
They are also very similar on defense.
The QBs are very different, though. Hornibrook is actually great - one of the Big Ten's best. But Michigan is by far the best pass defense in america. They're ruining Alex in a major way. By design.
I can agree with you all the up to talking about how good Hornibrook is..  I just don’t see that.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 10:33:31 PM
I can agree with you all the up to talking about how good Hornibrook is..  I just don’t see that.  
Going into this he had been arguably (but not necessarily: bc Haskins) the most efficient QB in the conference. He's low usage but had maximally capitalized on those few tries. What he did against Iowa, for example. That was cold-blooded and had been his whole year ... until tonight. This was a mismatch. 

Whether Michigan wins out until OSU or loses in between, the best remaining question is how Michigan's pass D will match versus Haskins. It could potentially be #1 nationally v. #1 nationally.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: rook119 on October 13, 2018, 10:34:25 PM
While you weren't watching, Miami went full Miami today.

2 min left. UVA 17 Miami 14. Miami stops UVA on 3rd down. Then out of nowhere about 2 sec after the whistle a player from Miami steamrolls a UVA player from behind. PI 1st down.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 13, 2018, 10:37:17 PM
This is a big win for Michigan. I didn't think that they would win this one before the season started. 

I still think the Sparty game will trip them up next week. They'll be high off of their press clippings, and MSU will play like it's their Super Bowl. 

Penn St might be in trouble, heading into the Big House. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: TyphonInc on October 13, 2018, 10:37:43 PM
20 yard pass completed
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 10:38:00 PM
Going into this he had been arguably (but not necessarily: bc Haskins) the most efficient QB in the conference. He's low usage but had capitalized on those numbers. What he did against Iowa, for example. That was cold-blooded and had been his year. But this was a mismatch.
Efficient- hell yes.   When your offensive line and RB run over everyone, especially the lessor teams.
One of the best in the big?  I wouldn’t even tank him in the top 5,if I were putting together a team together my own team. 
Give me Haskins, or McSorley, or Lewerke, or Ramsey, or Thorson, or Patterson or maybe even Nate Stanley.
He is perfect for Wisconsin, at least until tonight,  where yes Michigan effected him, but he stunk even when they didn’t.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 10:38:45 PM
It's greedy, I know, but this drive is bumming me out. I wanted stats that showed more destruction than this.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: TyphonInc on October 13, 2018, 10:39:04 PM
20 yard pass completed
+1
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 13, 2018, 10:40:22 PM
Yeah, Hornibroom really struggles to get the ball down the field. The best way to attack Michigan is going down the field.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 10:41:50 PM
Going into this he had been arguably (but not necessarily: bc Haskins) the most efficient QB in the conference. He's low usage but had maximally capitalized on those few tries. What he did against Iowa, for example. That was cold-blooded and had been his whole year ... until tonight. This was a mismatch.

Whether Michigan wins out until OSU or loses in between, the best remaining question is how Michigan's pass D will match versus Haskins. It could potentially be #1 nationally v. #1 nationally.
As far as OSU passing game, UM already has one huge advantage; Buckeyes are already one dimensional.  
Michigan is very balanced, especially now with adding a true threa at QB on the read option. I don’t see them losing anytime soon, unless they just lay an egg somewhere.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 10:41:58 PM
Efficient- hell yes.   When your offensive line and RB run over everyone, especially the lessor teams.
One of the best in the big?  I wouldn’t even tank him in the top 5,if I were putting together a team together my own team.
Give me Haskins, or McSorley, or Lewerke, or Ramsey, or Thorson, or Patterson or maybe even Nate Stanley.
He is perfect for Wisconsin, at least until tonight,  where yes Michigan effected him, but he stunk even when they didn’t.  
I'd prrrrobably take Hornibrook over Lewerke, Ramsey and Stanley. Lewerke in particular is having a rough year. You'll point out the surrounding pieces though (OL especially) and of course that's correct. But because consistent pressure can get into a guy's head and ruin him, that isn't really a factor we should peel away. Lewerke has often showed signs of fear and regression this season (both relative to last year and as this one has progressed). It's been cumulative.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 10:42:53 PM
It's greedy, I know, but this drive is bumming me out. I wanted stats that showed more destruction than this.
I have always felt you were too enamored by shiny things like stats.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 13, 2018, 10:43:02 PM
Yeah, Hornibroom really struggles to get the ball down the field. The best way to attack Michigan is going down the field.
I don't know about that. 
You can't just sit back there all day waiting for WR's to get open against Don's defense.
You have to go sideline to sideline with RPO IMO. 
Option football works well at times. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 10:43:23 PM
Yeah, Hornibroom really struggles to get the ball down the field. The best way to attack Michigan is going down the field.
I will admit that. His arm is not strong. His efficiency is not as transferable to, say, the NFL. But it's amazing (in other games) within Chryst's system.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 10:44:25 PM
I have always felt you were too enamored by shiny things like stats.  
I am and know it. Which is why it's healthier to say it out loud than keep it to myself. Go on. Make fun. I enjoy deserving it.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 13, 2018, 10:45:44 PM
I am and know it. Which is why it's healthier to say it out loud than keep it to myself. Go on. Make fun. I enjoy deserving it.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 10:46:03 PM
Wow. That settles it. Joe Milton *actually* passed Brandon Peters on the depth chart. That's ... seismic. Expect a transfer.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 13, 2018, 10:47:35 PM
Wisconsin hasn't been very competitive against the big three in the B1G East lately. 

Two years ago they lost to Michigan and OSU, then lost to Penn St in the Ccg. 

Last year they didn't have to play anyone and went undefeated, but then lost to OSU in the Ccg. 

Now they are getting creamed by Michigan, and will probably lose pretty bad at Penn St. I don't like their chances if they get to the Ccg. 

0-fer the last three seasons. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 10:48:57 PM
Wow. That settles it. Joe Milton *actually* passed Brandon Peters on the depth chart. That's ... seismic. Expect a transfer.
It was already happening.  Might be a chicken/egg scenario.  Why give game reps to a guy who isn't part of your future?
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 10:49:30 PM
Ole Miss not quitting yet
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 10:50:25 PM
Chase Winovich is such a[n elitely talented football] puppy
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: bayareabadger on October 13, 2018, 10:52:29 PM
Ole Hornibrook isn't going to have too many completions that go over 20 yards down the field in the air tonight.
Needs better receivers. Only a little more than 30 percent of his yards are after the catch. He’d be better off around 61 like that OSU fella.

(To be clear, I think Haskins is a better QB. But the level of salty defensiveness is oddly, not quite amusing, but interesting to me)
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 10:53:09 PM
It was already happening.  Might be a chicken/egg scenario.  Why give game reps to a guy who isn't part of your future?
I never went further than wondering. Tonight I learned. Did you have insider info or maybe just a better sleuthing skill than me?
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: bayareabadger on October 13, 2018, 10:54:26 PM
If this isn't a fake, Chryst is an archaic punter.
He is most archaic
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 10:57:21 PM
I never went further than wondering. Tonight I learned. Did you have insider info or maybe just a better sleuthing skill than me?
No, just speculation.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: bayareabadger on October 13, 2018, 11:00:15 PM
Wisconsin hasn't been very competitive against the big three in the B1G East lately.

Two years ago they lost to Michigan and OSU, then lost to Penn St in the Ccg.

Last year they didn't have to play anyone and went undefeated, but then lost to OSU in the Ccg.

Now they are getting creamed by Michigan, and will probably lose pretty bad at Penn St. I don't like their chances if they get to the Ccg.

0-fer the last three seasons.
Hasn’t beaten you mean. 
They’ve been competitive before last night, those four games you mentioned were all by 7 or 6 points. 
This isn’t ideal, but they played right with more talented teams. The 2016 title game really stings. Badgers were up 21 at one point I think. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 11:01:36 PM
Good Lord Arkansas.  Ole Miss may actually score too fast here
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: bayareabadger on October 13, 2018, 11:04:49 PM
Usually UW manges to stay close enough. Felt like it could go that way up til it was 21-7. UW kinda went into meltdown mode. Haven’t seen that for a while. 

I wrote this somewhere, maybe here. UW had five years in a row where the most disappointing team won 11 games despite brutal QB play. We were due a disappointment. I’m annoyed it came with Michigan getting them points, but UM’s offense is top-30 good, UW’s defense is bad and when you get bad Hornibrook (that Michigan forces), it’ll go that way. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 13, 2018, 11:06:55 PM
Man, Ole Miss and Arkansas are two crappy, poorly coached, horribly disciplined teams 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 13, 2018, 11:07:03 PM
Hasn’t beaten you mean.
They’ve been competitive before last night, those four games you mentioned were all by 7 or 6 points.
This isn’t ideal, but they played right with more talented teams. The 2016 title game really stings. Badgers were up 21 at one point I think.
Key distinction. I know as a Michigan fan. Whose team hasn't been as consistent as yours but has had at least one CFB-type team, except the dice hit an edge and it didn't show up in the win column.
Competing won't impress everyone (and Alabama, Clemson, UGa and OSU fans have had the luxury to sometimes only be happy with more), but realistically the only way to break through to their level is to first sit in that zone where you're in the race and a tremendous chore to defeat.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 13, 2018, 11:13:06 PM
Hasn’t beaten you mean.
They’ve been competitive before last night, those four games you mentioned were all by 7 or 6 points.
This isn’t ideal, but they played right with more talented teams. The 2016 title game really stings. Badgers were up 21 at one point I think.
That's probably more accurate. 
They may be a cut above MSU, but MSU fares better against those teams, probably due to the familiarity of playing them every year. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: bayareabadger on October 13, 2018, 11:43:41 PM
That's probably more accurate.
They may be a cut above MSU, but MSU fares better against those teams, probably due to the familiarity of playing them every year.
I think it might be something else, but something super interesting.
So MSU has this fascinating ability to turn big games into weird rock fights and small ones into surprise shootouts. And it means the Spartans have oddly high variance. This year they beat PSU and lost to NW. Or beat OSU in 2015 and lose to 6-7 Nebraska. 
UW on the other hand is mostly consistent. They usually stay close to good/very good teams but win around 25-30 percent of those games and for the most part handle equal or lesser teams. They're actually a good test case for recruiting rankings because their record against better recruiting teams trends toward average, but they're really above average against teams that recruit at the same level or worse. 
And if you look at the team from 2010 onward, this is the second-worst loss (behind 59-0), and the next closest is 18 to National champ Bama, then by 10, twice, in that stretch of 21 total losses.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Hawkinole on October 13, 2018, 11:43:52 PM
Today was in my opinion a good day for Iowa. 

First, the 42-16 win over Indiana. 

Second, Iowa State wins 28-14, which now gives Iowa a win over a quality team that defeated two consecutive top 25 teams.

Third, Michigan over Wisconsin gives Iowa an outside shot at the Big Ten West championship. Wisconsin still has games @Penn St, @Northwestern, and @Purdue. (Iowa would have to win-out, and Wisc. lose once. Iowa has @Penn St, too).
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: GopherRock on October 14, 2018, 09:46:36 AM
'Ol Crimson is going home. Game Day going to Pullman for the first time ever next week.  

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/10/13/17969236/washington-state-college-gameday-flag
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Gigem on October 14, 2018, 09:58:43 AM
Utee I’d like to hear more about your air stream.  I skipped about 17 pages on this thread so apologies if I missed something. I love those things!
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 14, 2018, 10:43:45 AM
'Ol Crimson is going home. Game Day going to Pullman for the first time ever next week.  

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/10/13/17969236/washington-state-college-gameday-flag
sweet!
Obviously, they didn't think about the game in Lincoln NE
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 14, 2018, 11:35:30 AM
Ty Johnson hits 4,000 All-purpose yards, being the 4th Maryland player to do so, alongside Torrey Smith, Lamont Jordan, and Stephon Diggs.

Can't break ALL-BIG TEAM on this board! 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 14, 2018, 12:06:03 PM
Ty Johnson hits 4,000 All-purpose yards, being the 4th Maryland player to do so, alongside Torrey Smith, Lamont Jordan, and Stephon Diggs.

Can't break ALL-BIG TEAM on this board!
Has he been All-Big Ten with the AP or Coaches? I honestly don't know.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: utee94 on October 14, 2018, 01:07:06 PM
Utee I’d like to hear more about your air stream.  I skipped about 17 pages on this thread so apologies if I missed something. I love those things!
Heh, that's a blast from the past! (17 pages ago). :)
In 2008 I bought a vintage 1963 Airstream in "survivor" condition.  It was campable, mostly original, but had all of the issues that an almost 50-year-old trailer should have.  The plywood flooring was rotting away in the places you'd expect (under the bathtub, under the windows that eventually leak, etc.).  The steel frame underneath was also rusting away in some of those some same areas.  I knew when I bought it, that it required a complete frame up restoration.  That's ok, I paid accordingly.
We used it for a season as-is, which was a lot of fun.  But then I demo'd it, took out all the furniture, pulled up the rotten flooring, had a steel frame shop cut out the old rusted our framing, and weld in brand new replacement pieces.  Then I put in new marine-grade plywood flooring, rebuilt most of the furniture, rehabbed more of it, installed a new freshwater tank and a new gray tank.  Also put in a new A/C.  I stripped about 2/3 of the interior paint and polished what I could, put in new aluminum to cover what still didn't look good.  I put in a new water heater, and the old (but not original) 3-way refrigerator still worked, as did the old (but not original) 3-burner range with oven.  I didn't mess with the electrical much, other than installing a new inverter and power center.  
After the actual build was completed, I did a lot of cosmetic work, rebullding the bathroom vanity and beds from scratch, and repaneling the closets with African ribbon-striped mahogany veneers.  Then I polished the exterior to a near-mirror finish.  
That was all within the first year, but what I didn't do was attack the front salon portion of the trailer, which originally would have had basically a built-in futon type thing.  I left it all open and the kids slept on air mattresses up there.  My plan was to build and install a u-shaped dinette that would convert into a queen-sized bed.
But then, the kids grew up a bit, life got more complicated, and I never finished the reno.  I love that trailer and Airstreams in general, but the layout wasn't working for us.  Having to make up beds at night, and take them down every morning, is tolerable for a couple days, but doesn't work at all for week+ trips.  Not enough counter space, no place to have breakfast or dinner when it's raining outside, etc.
So sadly, I sold it about 2 months ago.  Got a very decent price for it, basically made back what I paid for it plus what I put into it.  I bought a brand new, modern trailer with a large slide-out and a full warranty. 
It doesn't look unique like an Airstream, it doesn't have the vintage-chic factor, but man it's new, it's nice, it's big, and did I mention the full warranty?  Gotta say, I love the new trailer.
One day when the kids are grown up and moved out though, I'll probably buy another vintage Airstream, and do it all again.  :)
anyway, thanks for asking.  It was an incredibly fun trailer to own, to use, and to work on, for the decade I had it.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: bayareabadger on October 14, 2018, 01:30:51 PM
Ty Johnson hits 4,000 All-purpose yards, being the 4th Maryland player to do so, alongside Torrey Smith, Lamont Jordan, and Stephon Diggs.

Can't break ALL-BIG TEAM on this board!
He has never ranked higher than 9th in the conference in rushing. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 14, 2018, 02:18:46 PM
He has never ranked higher than 9th in the conference in rushing.
Lots of RB's on the roster. 
We feed them all. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: iahawk15 on October 14, 2018, 03:05:02 PM
Ty Johnson hits 4,000 All-purpose yards, being the 4th Maryland player to do so, alongside Torrey Smith, Lamont Jordan, and Stephon Diggs.

Can't break ALL-BIG TEAM on this board!
Can't break All-B1G with the coaches or media, either. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: Gigem on October 14, 2018, 04:05:43 PM
Heh, that's a blast from the past! (17 pages ago). :)
In 2008 I bought a vintage 1963 Airstream in "survivor" condition.  It was campable, mostly original, but had all of the issues that an almost 50-year-old trailer should have.  The plywood flooring was rotting away in the places you'd expect (under the bathtub, under the windows that eventually leak, etc.).  The steel frame underneath was also rusting away in some of those some same areas.  I knew when I bought it, that it required a complete frame up restoration.  That's ok, I paid accordingly.
We used it for a season as-is, which was a lot of fun.  But then I demo'd it, took out all the furniture, pulled up the rotten flooring, had a steel frame shop cut out the old rusted our framing, and weld in brand new replacement pieces.  Then I put in new marine-grade plywood flooring, rebuilt most of the furniture, rehabbed more of it, installed a new freshwater tank and a new gray tank.  Also put in a new A/C.  I stripped about 2/3 of the interior paint and polished what I could, put in new aluminum to cover what still didn't look good.  I put in a new water heater, and the old (but not original) 3-way refrigerator still worked, as did the old (but not original) 3-burner range with oven.  I didn't mess with the electrical much, other than installing a new inverter and power center.  
After the actual build was completed, I did a lot of cosmetic work, rebullding the bathroom vanity and beds from scratch, and repaneling the closets with African ribbon-striped mahogany veneers.  Then I polished the exterior to a near-mirror finish.  
That was all within the first year, but what I didn't do was attack the front salon portion of the trailer, which originally would have had basically a built-in futon type thing.  I left it all open and the kids slept on air mattresses up there.  My plan was to build and install a u-shaped dinette that would convert into a queen-sized bed.
But then, the kids grew up a bit, life got more complicated, and I never finished the reno.  I love that trailer and Airstreams in general, but the layout wasn't working for us.  Having to make up beds at night, and take them down every morning, is tolerable for a couple days, but doesn't work at all for week+ trips.  Not enough counter space, no place to have breakfast or dinner when it's raining outside, etc.
So sadly, I sold it about 2 months ago.  Got a very decent price for it, basically made back what I paid for it plus what I put into it.  I bought a brand new, modern trailer with a large slide-out and a full warranty.
It doesn't look unique like an Airstream, it doesn't have the vintage-chic factor, but man it's new, it's nice, it's big, and did I mention the full warranty?  Gotta say, I love the new trailer.
One day when the kids are grown up and moved out though, I'll probably buy another vintage Airstream, and do it all again.  :)
anyway, thanks for asking.  It was an incredibly fun trailer to own, to use, and to work on, for the decade I had it.
Very nice. After tent camping several times through the years I’ve kind of got the itch for about a 26-28 footer. Not really wanting a slide as I want to keep the price and weight down so I won’t have to upgrade my tow vehicle which is a 1500 ram with the 3 liter eco diesel. I was actually planning on going camping last weekend but half way through loading all my stuff up in 95* heat I decided not to go. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 14, 2018, 06:14:41 PM
Can't break All-B1G with the coaches or media, either.
That's because they're lazy too. 
All anyone cares about is total yards.
When you have multiple backs capable of breaking a big gain and want to keep them fresh, this is what happens. 
Pretty good company to be in with those guys.
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 15, 2018, 08:27:47 AM
Week 7 PS3 sim Bracketology

APPALACHIAN STATE
3CLEMSON
NOON - espn2
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NORTH TEXAS
2OHIO STATE
1:30 - ESPN
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11FLORIDA
6MICHIGAN
3:00 - ABC
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FRESNO STATE
4NOTRE DAME
4:30 - espn2
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BUFFALO
1ALABAMA
6:00 - ESPN
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9OKLAHOMA
8GEORGIA
7:30 - ABC
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10CENTRAL FLORIDA
7TEXAS
9:00 - espn2
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12OREGON
5LSU
10:30 - ESPN

No top 8 team in the Mountain or Pacific time zones kind of messes things up
Title: Re: Battle of the Varmints SOC 10/13/18
Post by: ELA on October 15, 2018, 12:21:50 PM
Stumbled upon this bit of preseason hilarity.  Including one guy who thought after beating a Terps team "in turmoil" Rutgers would move to 6-1, at this point in the season.

https://www.app.com/story/sports/college/rutgers/2018/08/31/rutgers-rutgers-football-college-football-big-ten/1133383002/