I'm surprised we have not gained more members, for better or worse. We used to see new members come in fairly often. Maybe folks are all over at 247 or wherever where they can scream and yell and pound their chest.I've been thinking about this a lot, as has @Drew4UTk (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1) . When he started this thing, we discussed having a layout similar to what we had at Scout. Even there, toward the later years, we didn't have a lot of members on those other sites.
New members of course can come at a price.
I'm not sure the SEC, ACC, and Pac Boards have enough traffic to really be needed. I don't have a good idea as to how to merge to get to more of a critical mass though.
I think it's a good idea to keep them there. No harm in having them, and it might look more welcoming to increased membership to see for fans of those teams that they have a home here.That's exactly why I haven't given too much more thought to making a change. Are there really fans of the ACC and PAC? If so, where the hell do they hang out?
I think it's a good idea to keep them there. No harm in having them, and it might look more welcoming to increased membership to see for fans of those teams that they have a home here.This also might be the most poorly worded sentence to say so little I've ever written.
Technical question. On my android, I can't see or click to other pages within a multipage thread. I have to go back out and find page 7 if I was on page 8.I'm on this- i did some work last weekend on the mobile version and inadvertently hid these things... they'll be back soon.
That's exactly why I haven't given too much more thought to making a change. Are there really fans of the ACC and PAC? If so, where the hell do they hang out?yup- have it and not need it rather than....... but it's also considered that a 'dead' board makes a visitor think the whole place is so... so there is that, too...
I wish we had more decent SEC posters (if that isn't an oxymoron!).something i'm torn on.........
Fortunately, the B1G Board is very good.
On the technical side sometimes my phone has a really skinny column for the text. Like one word per line, and if it's a long word it drifts off the side of the margin. Only certain threads though. Like the power ranking thread. So maybe it has to do with the way some of the lists get posted.I think that is because of the tables that I post in that one. Those screw up the formatting.
On the technical side sometimes my phone has a really skinny column for the text. Like one word per line, and if it's a long word it drifts off the side of the margin. Only certain threads though. Like the power ranking thread. So maybe it has to do with the way some of the lists get posted.that's ALL on me... i set to work on the mobile theme and, in my haste to get it launched, went willy-nilly w/o consistency while building the format... sizing, in cascading style sheets, can be accomplished using several units of measure... though many of them seem to do the same thing there are nuances between them, making one better to use than all the others... right now the mobile theme is a victim of my confusion, using %, using pixels, using em's, using pt's, and visible widths/heights (vw,vh) all in some sort of salad that makes sense in some instances but not others... it's all part of what i'm now seeking to fix.
You guys are doing great work... Nothing to add. I do agree that we've also got a great group of posters here, and it's really nice that we are able to avoid actually making you guys be moderators.That's a stupid opinion
However, I do just want to make a call to my fellow posters for a return to general civility. I've been seeing a lot more personal sniping here than I remember either last season or at the old board. Arguments--even mundane ones about whether a play is a designed run or an RPO--are getting ugly.
We can do better...
That's a stupid opinionTakes one to know one.
You guys are doing great work... Nothing to add. I do agree that we've also got a great group of posters here, and it's really nice that we are able to avoid actually making you guys be moderators.I like the civility comment, even though it is aimed inappropriately at me. Let’s not confuse uncivil it’s with a good debate. And what may be mundane for you.....
However, I do just want to make a call to my fellow posters for a return to general civility. I've been seeing a lot more personal sniping here than I remember either last season or at the old board. Arguments--even mundane ones about whether a play is a designed run or an RPO--are getting ugly.
We can do better...
I like the civility comment, even though it is aimed inappropriately at me. Let’s not confuse uncivil it’s with a good debate. And what may be mundane for you.....Not aimed at you. I didn't even recall who was in that thread. Just that it seemed to get nasty.
Alternatively: We could bring our brains together and find a way to advertise for free to attract the right kind of people. What might that look like?One potential thing is if any of you guys comment on SBNation blogs for your team... I think most allow you to have a "signature" line. I could just see putting something like "The most reasonable college football forum on the internet: https://www.cfb51.com/" in your signature and seeing if people click over. Or just the URL.
This also might be the most poorly worded sentence to say so little I've ever written.well, I clicked like on that post because I understood it and agreed
one of the things that kept me at Scout after I first discovered it was the 'conference' boards as opposed to 'team' boards. it makes a person present things and consider things more objectively than the confined 'group think' of team boards.Team Boards degenerate into polluted,slanderous views of reality and open,honest discourse.I'll stop by for program information but don't usually stick around for unsolicited opinions
Team Boards degenerate into polluted,slanderous views of reality and open,honest discourse.I'll stop by for program information but don't usually stick around for unsolicited opinionsAgreed. They turn into cesspools of anti-homer conspiracies and convincing each other that all of their rivals are cheating. The pre-Twitter days were a good source of some insider info, but now, they aren't even really good for that, at least the publicly accessible ones.
Agreed. They turn into cesspools of anti-homer conspiracies and convincing each other that all of their rivals are cheating.Right out MP's Holy Grail "she's a witch"
I probably ran a lot of people off from the SEC board, and may be the reason some don’t return. But I found it to be a lazy-thinking good-ole-boys forum. I challenged their assumptions and brought analysis to the board while insisting they do as well. Maybe that wasn’t helpful.I don't know the eleventh word from the end, but I do like this post. It's a hard balancing act, though. Practicing good citizenship and braining at the same time.
I do enjoy the back-and-Forth some May view as untoward squabbling. But I find those to be productive (if not painful) steps in the right direction. I’m certainly guilty of having a thin skin here, but again, I consider the name-calling lazy - taking the place of real, valid opinion.
You’ve all been patient in accommodating me here as the SEC board has dissipated. I hope I’m viewed as someone, while at times rescalish, to be knowledgeable and always able to support my convictions.
One potential thing is if any of you guys comment on SBNation blogs for your team... I think most allow you to have a "signature" line. I could just see putting something like "The most reasonable college football forum on the internet: https://www.cfb51.com/" in your signature and seeing if people click over. Or just the URL.This is a good call, I'll do that on my GoldandBlack.com account, as I believe you can have custom sigs there. I would mention the old place several years ago on there and we'd gained a few new occasional posters.
you're the reason Crunch is not here?I hope so.
I don't know the eleventh word from the end, but I do like this post. It's a hard balancing act, though. Practicing good citizenship and braining at the same time.rascal-ish
I kinda like having you brainiacs aroundBack at ya :017:
Anyone been to the CFN Book Face page lately? I don't know how active that place is anymore.Haven't. Actually I never did except the day I first joined and, after that, when Marcel used to post there and I'd get an alert. Even if he did make the mistake of picking a lanky Buckeye as his second spirit mascot, this board really misses that guy.
It's kind of crazy how long we've been posting as a groupI'm happy @Drew4UTk (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1) saw this and had the foresight and wherewithal to hatch this idea of keeping us together.
I'm happy @Drew4UTk (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1) saw this and had the foresight and wherewithal to hatch this idea of keeping us together.Me too. I was skeptical it would work out, but it sure has
Haven't. Actually I never did except the day I first joined and, after that, when Marcel used to post there and I'd get an alert. Even if he did make the mistake of picking a lanky Buckeye as his second spirit mascot, this board really misses that guy.Losing Marcel and John has really stunk. Gator’s weekend travel write-ups are still the best internet content college football has ever seen. They’re both a reminder that wins and losses aren’t nearly the most important part of college football.
Me too. I was skeptical it would work out, but it sure hasYup a lot of work behind the scenes but from this side it appears to have come off w/o a glitch.Ya know except for the fact we couldn't seem to shake fearless.Thanks again
It looks like a bottle opener.I was actually just coming to post this! Pagination is missing within thread view. Link to last post is missing in thread list view. For me anyway, Galaxy S5 Chrome browser.
The main issue I've seen is not being able to see the page numbers within the thread on mobile.
It's A dildo. We can't say it's YOUR dildo.That's definitely a little more than a thumbs up...
That argument would be a lot more sound if these conferences were global instead of regional.Ha. I like the energy of the post more than the idea.
If you found a gal that gives left and rights instead of random land marks, hang onto that one like grim death my fried.Ha, I'll definitely keep her.
Ha, I'll definitely keep her.If you were traveling East and turned North, you'd be going down that road and turning LEFT.
But "travel east, turn north" is always better than "go down that road, turn right" because the second gets you lost and keeps you that way if you miss something.
If you found a gal that gives left and rights instead of random land marks, hang onto that one like grim death my fried.some women know their right hand from their left, but never met one that knew North, South, East, & West.
I'm one of those who studies maps before I go somewhere. No GPS. No directions. Just give me an address and I'll be there.I used to be one of those, up until a couple years ago, when Google finally figured out maps
If you were traveling East and turned North, you'd be going down that road and turning LEFT.Obviously, but if you get turned around, you don't know which general direction to go to get unstuck without finding outside help. If I know a destination is due north of right *here*, it doesn't matter how many times you spin me around, after the dizziness goes away, I can look at the sun/stars/compass and start going in the right direction within a second.
Just sayin'.
If you were traveling East and turned North, you'd be going down that road and turning LEFT.Just don't pull a U turn
Just sayin'.
I'm one of those who studies maps before I go somewhere. No GPS. No directions. Just give me an address and I'll be there.Me too,comes from years of driving thru Ohio,Pa,NY, up to fishing camps in Ontario/Quebec.About 2000 we had two SUV's trailering boats.One friend had his new fangled cell w/GPS.In our truck we had compass/maps.Other buddies didn't plan on tornado's taking out towers 750 miles above the border.We were able to get our provincial fishing licenses,Good Canadian beer and boat in the water when they showed up 10 hrs later
I'm a freakin' Land Surveyor. Get lost, my ass.Not everyone has that. And ALL of those people are best off if they master their cardinal directions.
Since Earth is a globe, there's no "right" way to represent it in two dimensions. The western convention is to put north at top and the Americas at left (these are Mercator maps). Other equally legitimate maps put (a) north at top and Eurasia/Oceania at left or (b) north at bottom.However, given that the distance traveled between the schools is SO much shorter in one direction than the other, which is nearly a full circumnavigation of the globe, it makes sense to view their locations relatively in the shorter direction.
Having said that, I do tend to fall in line with many conventions and applaud your anal retentiveness here.
What the hell would the purpose be for the map/globe in the bottom left hand corner.Did Picasso paint that,make it red and put it on the badgers helmetIt is far better than the standard Mercator projections (the rectangular map we all know and love or "love") at representing the size of things near the poles. Because its longitude lines converge.
However, given that the distance traveled between the schools is SO much shorter in one direction than the other, which is nearly a full circumnavigation of the globe, it makes sense to view their locations relatively in the shorter direction.I was moreso acknowledging that an entirely legitimate map with south marked at top and north at bottom would have the west at right and east at left. As one way of pointing out how arbitrary it is to say "west = left; east = right."
I.e. we could either group the helmets by the West division, and the East division. And then within each division, present them by how far longitudinally far they are from the middle.
Of course, Leaders and Legends never had this problem.
I was moreso acknowledging that an entirely legitimate map with south marked at top and north at bottom would have the west at right and east at left. As one way of pointing out how arbitrary it is to say "west = left; east = right."How high are you, bro?
Why do the Big Ten and Sec Conference boards have the "East" helmets on the left and the "West" helmets on the right?Upon closer inspection the Acc board helmets aren't even in alphabetical order like the Pac 12.
Shouldn't it be the other way around? Like on a map?
Why aren't the helmets on the Pac 12 and ACC board divvied up by divisions like the Big Ten and Sec? Instead they are divided up asymmetrically in alphabetical order.
On the Pac board Stanford, Utah, UDub and Wazzou are on the right with the other 8 teams on the left.
On the Acc board BC, Clemson, FSU, Louisville and NC State are on the left with the other 9 teams plus ND on the right.
Not a big deal of course, just something I've noticed.
What the hell would the purpose be for the map/globe in the bottom left hand corner.Did Picasso paint that,make it red and put it on the badgers helmetSeems to me it would be useful to look at if you were planning a sea route. It covers all the main ones in one shot.
Well you prolly hear that when they get the billThat's why I don't do residential work. For what some dickweeds charge for those surveys.. I can't even send my guys out to start the truck.
Upon closer inspection the Acc board helmets aren't even in alphabetical order like the Pac 12.I did all of those by hand using MS Paint, and while on an airplane... it was a PITA, but something that occupied my time and insomnia (i CANNOT sleep on an airplane- weird, huh? and it doesn't if I'm flying up South or Down North, Left East or Left West)... IIRC I stuck them where they fit best, with original intent to make the little conference banner look like a tab... I kinda fell flat on that it would appear.
It has Boston College, Clemson, Florida State, Louisville and then NC State to the left of the ACC logo.
To the right is Notre Dame, Syracuse, Wake Forest, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, North Carolina, Pitt, Virginia and then Virginia Tech.
What Dude?
Oh I see. It would be divided into divisions if the Acc logo were between Wake Forest and Duke instead of NC State and Notre Dame.
Weird.
How many visitors regularly view posts, who do not post, as compared to #s of posters?I'm thinking about half or so. It would be good to get them all active here. I recognize some of the names and they are good ones.
OldLardBelly is still poking around on the 247 sites.Ya over on Bucknuts - so is Buckeye Rob,don't know if you were around when he was here - over on the CFN Board rather.I think Cincidawg posts over there occasionally.Amazing the different boards that either merged or disappeared and not for the better IMO.Hineygate is/was a weird one they booted me after one post.i think they threw me out because I responded to a troll/flamer.Moderator prolly fat thumbed me while going after him
OldLardBelly is still poking around on the 247 sites.Go get him!
Please do!!I posted this to my Facebook Account, tonight:
Where are the numbers within a thread that show pages ?I thought I was the only one. I unfortuantely dropped my phone face down on my driveway two weeks ago, so I had to get a fancy new one, which was unneeded. The new fancy one doesn’t show page numbers.
sent a good Husker fan a link to the board a few minutes agoI posted the link on my Facebook page a while back. I had one buddy "like" it. Hopefully, actions like this will spur a few some new posters to come on-board. I am very satisfied with those we have. It would be nice to develop a few more members.
hopefully he will check in
I think the mods should ban anyone who diverts a thread from its original topic.heheheheheheeeee- you're a mod bro!!! have at it!!!!! heheheheheeeeeee!!!!!
I think the mods should ban anyone who diverts a thread from its original topic.That would be Hari Kari
All that aside, my monitor is a flat rectangle. Not a sphere.My monitor is a beautiful 34" curved high tech art piece. :)
Did you pony up 850.00 for it?Nah, it was free for me. But that's because I know a guy. ;)