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Title: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 06, 2018, 06:56:45 AM
Summer refuses to die, and this weekend gives us a highs in the upper 80's.  It's going to be hot and humid this weekend before hopefully giving out and letting fall get properly started.  The pumpkins looks out of place when everyone is sweating.

I'll probably be sparse again this today.  I'm going down to my parents' and to my uncle's, who has a festival on his farm every year.  But he's getting on in age and I'm not sure how long he can do it, but he's stubborn as a mule so we shall see.  In any event, I'll get to hear some good fiddle music.
Title: Re: Last Breathes of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 06, 2018, 07:02:42 AM
Noon
Maryland at Michigan, ABC
NW at MSU, FS1
Illinois at Rutgers, BTN
3:30
Iowa at Minny, BTN
4 pm, Indiana at OSU, FOX
7:30, Nebraska ay Wiscy, BTN

Others
Noon, Texas v. Oklahoma, FOX
3:30, LSU at Florida, CBS
8 pm, ND at Va Tech, ABC
Title: Re: Last Breathes of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 06, 2018, 07:47:35 AM
Speak for yourself with the weather. It sucks here.
Title: Re: Last Breathes of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MarqHusker on October 06, 2018, 08:43:27 AM
Overcast and warm here in Big D this morning.  Leaving for the Fair in a bit here.  Gonna be an expensive ticket.   Just hoping no lightning delay today .
Title: Re: Last Breathes of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 06, 2018, 08:45:34 AM
Tonight will be smoked garlicky crab legs with a warm corn relish, mussels and homemade Belgian fries.



What's on everyone else's menu for today?



The better part of the day for me will be prepping the new place for the move. We are painting and changing out light fixtures to match our taste in decorating. Also a couple of things I want to tackle on the patio, like building a deck box and outdoor table, provided we don't get rained on all day as is forecast. We'll see how that goes.
Title: Re: Last Breathes of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 08:52:38 AM
Is the RRR still played in the Cotton Bowl?Or did they move that over to Jerry World......Jerry World - what a douche nozzle.Made a huge pot of Ham & Bean Soup,problem is it's going to in the 80's for the next 4-5 days.Gonna have to freeze at least half of it
Title: Re: Last Breathes of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MarqHusker on October 06, 2018, 08:55:00 AM
Locked up for the Cotton Bowl through 2025.  Corny Dogs on my menu. 
Title: Re: Last Breathes of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 09:00:34 AM
Listening to Barry Alverez on the BTN,I agree exactly with his take.He said if they have to expand the CFB Playoffs go just to 6 games with the top 2 getting a bye.This saves on the wear/tear of the players - Ed Zachary
Title: Re: Last Breathes of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 06, 2018, 09:16:45 AM
It has been hotter here than it was in July, and that is continuing apparently.  The sky is clear and deep blue though.

High of 88°F today and tomorrow.  Normal high is 10°F cooler.

Game in Athens is a night game with Vandy.

Title: Re: Last Breathes of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 06, 2018, 09:19:05 AM
Tonight will be smoked garlicky crab legs with a warm corn relish, mussels and homemade Belgian fries.



What's on everyone else's menu for today?



The better part of the day for me will be prepping the new place for the move. We are painting and changing out light fixtures to match our taste in decorating. Also a couple of things I want to tackle on the patio, like building a deck box and outdoor table, provided we don't get rained on all day as is forecast. We'll see how that goes.
Belgian Fries!
Title: Re: Last Breathes of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 06, 2018, 09:27:17 AM
I was thinking of heating up some pork and beans from a can with chopped up hotdog mixed in it.

I might add some onion.
Title: Re: Last Breathes of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 06, 2018, 09:33:51 AM
good call on the onion
Title: Re: Last Breathes of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 06, 2018, 09:41:36 AM
weather could be better here

best thing about 6:30 kicks is an afternoon round of golf pre-game

high of maybe 50 with little sunshine

not much cooking planned

a Charlie Boy sammich and a schooner for brunch at the bar


(https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/siouxcityjournal.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/f/e6/fe6c5035-aaca-5c33-91b7-658a09d1736e/4e36f454394c4.image.jpg)
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: utee94 on October 06, 2018, 10:14:18 AM
Locked up for the Cotton Bowl through 2025.  Corny Dogs on my menu.
Yup.  And the next contract to extend it another 7-10 years will likely be signed in the next year or two.  They don't ever let it get within 5 years.

It won't ever go to JerryWorld.  It would move to home-and-home before that happened.  But right now both sides remain firmly committed to the Cotton Bowl.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: utee94 on October 06, 2018, 10:18:35 AM
Weather here will be mid to upper 80s with a chance of thunderstorms.  My kids have soccer and football games at noon so we're going to have to DVR the TX-OU game which starts at 11 Central.  

We're not up in Dallas for the game this year, because of the kids' sports.  So we're going to reproduce the State Fair here at our house-- got the deep fryers out and we're doing corndogs, deep fried bacon-wrapped jalapenos, funnel cake, fried twinkies, fried oreos, etc.  

Hook 'em Horns and ou still sucks!
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 10:37:40 AM
I guess I'll go with pizza and wings today.  


In Phoenix, the weather has been a lot like Florida lately, which everyone hates, but I love.  Rain everyday, sauna feeling around 90.  Women are silly when it comes to humidity and their hair....hey ladies, we ain't looking at your hair.

Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 10:40:52 AM
 So we're going to reproduce the State Fair here at our house-- got the deep fryers out and we're doing corndogs, deep fried bacon-wrapped jalapenos, funnel cake, fried twinkies, fried oreos, etc.  
Damn 94 when ya go on the wagon in the winter I'm not sure the Beer is the weight culprit.You're not deep frying bacon & butter are you
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 06, 2018, 10:46:03 AM
Pizza and shrimp cocktail tonight for game food

heading to the bar!
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: utee94 on October 06, 2018, 11:06:21 AM
Damn 94 when ya go on the wagon in the winter I'm not sure the Beer is the weight culprit.You're not deep frying bacon & butter are you
We'll probably deep fry some bacon.
Never tried butter.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 06, 2018, 11:10:08 AM
Sounds like Michihan-Maryland delayed due to weather.  Now looking like a 1 pm kick.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 11:16:37 AM
We'll probably deep fry some bacon.
Never tried butter.
Hardly ever Deep Fry but I gotta try that at least once,maybe with peanut butter & toasted rye sammich
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: GopherRock on October 06, 2018, 11:23:28 AM
Brisk morning here on the East River Flats. 45 and windy. 

There's a rowing regatta going on the Mississippi this morning, and the Flats are full of cars that aren't tailgating. Makes it hard for the tailgaters to do anything. 

As for grub, we've got 3 pounds of bacon and two ham steaks from the U of M Meat Science department to cook. Considering a 98-pound bronze pig is at stake, fitting. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: TyphonInc on October 06, 2018, 12:10:33 PM
LET'S GO BUCKS!
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: TyphonInc on October 06, 2018, 12:11:28 PM
Watching Red River.

Wide receiver dropped TD pass, because of targeting, but no targeting called. boo
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: DevilFroggy on October 06, 2018, 12:12:04 PM
Currently 72 in Phoenix with a forecasted high of 82, so in other words not bad at all.

Just finished some pancakes I made for myself for breakfast, not sure what I'll do for lunch before I head out for work at 2pm.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: DevilFroggy on October 06, 2018, 12:13:09 PM
I know its only one drive but good God that Sooner offense is scary good. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: TyphonInc on October 06, 2018, 12:22:13 PM
Just saw the Timmy Tebow play! Love this game.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 06, 2018, 12:31:47 PM
Watching Red River.

Wide receiver dropped TD pass, because of targeting, but no targeting called. boo
Yes, and the Sooners came right back and scored On the EXACT play we were debating last week from Penn State.  Same formation even, just pu a guy in motion. Zone read with RPO.
Looks so familiar because Mayfield torched the Buckeyes on last season.

https://www.foxsports.com/college-football/video/1338350147553 (https://www.foxsports.com/college-football/video/1338350147553)
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 06, 2018, 12:40:34 PM
Wow. Huge coverage breakdown there for the Spartans.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: TyphonInc on October 06, 2018, 12:41:45 PM
Rutgers with a 4 yard punt.....
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: TyphonInc on October 06, 2018, 12:43:50 PM
Illinois with a negative 44 yard pass play?!?!?

I'm thinking my Game Cast is showing bad info.

But the funny thing is, both teams are so bad, that I could believe a 4 yard punt, and a negative 44 yard pass.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 12:46:34 PM
MSU has a late-Hoke era offense this year
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 06, 2018, 12:50:11 PM
Hardly ever Deep Fry but I gotta try that at least once,maybe with peanut butter & toasted rye sammich
Dude!
you are missing out on life!
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 06, 2018, 12:51:04 PM
Weather is a high of 72 today, low of 59, mostly sunny. In other words, absolute perfection.

Should be a pretty lazy day. Going to catch some games and run some errands...

Might do In n Out for lunch. Been a while since we've had it. Got a plan to go hit a brewery with the in-laws in the afternoon.

Decided I wanted to cook Chinese for dinner tonight. So we'll start with egg drop soup [wife has never had it because she has a poultry allergy; eggs are okay but chicken stock isn't so it'll be made with vegetable]. Follow that up with beef lo mein. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 06, 2018, 12:53:22 PM
I'm watching the red river war as well.

Brinch at the bar was called off.  Daughter's dog was a problem and caused me to tweak my lower back.

Tito's and an ice bag are helping

plenty of stoopid plays by individual players on both sides of this game

just seems to me that players are more disciplined these days than back in the good old days of the 70s and 80s 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 06, 2018, 01:04:43 PM
Weather is a high of 72 today, low of 59, mostly sunny. In other words, absolute perfection.

Should be a pretty lazy day. Going to catch some games and run some errands...

Might do In n Out for lunch. Been a while since we've had it. Got a plan to go hit a brewery with the in-laws in the afternoon.

Decided I wanted to cook Chinese for dinner tonight. So we'll start with egg drop soup [wife has never had it because she has a poultry allergy; eggs are okay but chicken stock isn't so it'll be made with vegetable]. Follow that up with beef lo mein.
Man I wish there was In and Out here...
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 06, 2018, 01:48:27 PM
Sean McKeon sucks. Why the hell do they keep playing him? Can’t take it anymore. Makes me want to scream every time they throw him the ball. It’s a wasted play and a wasted down.

That 4th and 1 was awful. Even I knew Ben Mason was getting that. That doesn’t work on 4th and a full yard. 4th and inches? Sure. A full yard plus? No way. Would’ve been great if they faked it to Mason and let Patterson bootleg it out of there. That just might work. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 01:48:35 PM
Ooof. That was bad. Yeah, let's give the team with 18 total yards a TD and the lead. For funsies.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 06, 2018, 01:49:49 PM
Ooof. That was bad. Yeah, let's give the team with 18 total yards a TD and the lead. For funsies.
For real. Wtf was that? The defense was owning their offense even without Gary in the line up and they do that? 
Ty Johnson is explosive. WHY even kick it to him?
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: SuperMario on October 06, 2018, 01:52:00 PM
Yes, please keep telling me how great Patterson is. Terrible
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 01:55:33 PM
Yes, please keep telling me how great Patterson is. Terrible
Was that a good example for this argument? Shea threw it up to his sequoia TE, the ball hit him in the hands and then deflected up and into the hands of a second DB. Not the kind of play a QB is normally blamed for.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: SuperMario on October 06, 2018, 01:56:49 PM
Absolutely the kind of play a QB is blamed for. Broken play and he fires it into heavy traffic. Terrible decision and led to an INT. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 06, 2018, 01:57:08 PM
After watching the replay in slow mo....Gentry should’ve had that. He’s pushing 6’8 and the ball hit him right in both hands. He has to make that catch. 

You get two hands on it, you catch it. No excuse. Not like he had to readjust or twist his body. It was a straight up jump ball that he had two hands on. Just go up and snatch it. You want to play in the NFL? That’s the type of catch you have to prove you can make.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 01:59:09 PM
I will admit though that Patterson struggles a lot more with sitting in the pocket and being asked to execute normal timing passes. But still, that's a relative thing. I think we should in general be very comfortable with his comp%.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 06, 2018, 02:00:26 PM
Absolutely the kind of play a QB is blamed for. Broken play and he fires it into heavy traffic. Terrible decision and led to an INT.
Please. 
Ball hit Gentry in BOTH hands. Right in the hands. Accurately. He didn’t have to readjust or controt his body in a crazy position to try and make an impossible catch. 
Gentry is 6’8. And all he had to do was jump a little bit straight up for a ball that hit him in both hands. AND he dropped it. Let it slip right through his fingers into the hands of a defender. 
That’s 100% on Gentry. Unbelievably nice play by Patterson to escape pressure run to his left and throw an accurate ball. 
Unbelievably bad play by Gentry to get both hands on it and not catch it. PERIOD.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: SuperMario on October 06, 2018, 02:01:34 PM
This isn’t the nfl, this is college football and you don’t throw into the middle of traffic. Excuses abound when the messiah makes a poor decision.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 02:11:01 PM
This isn’t the nfl, this is college football and you don’t throw into the middle of traffic. Excuses abound when the messiah makes a poor decision.
The second DB needed the deflection to have enough time to get to the ball. So calling it traffic is a bit misleading. Patterson had his largest receiver 1-on-1 and hit him right in the hands. It was a good idea and pass. Didn't work out for other reasons. In other news our ~70% comp% QB is at 8/13 and ~10YPA today. Now that the tackles are developing and functional, the passing game's issues aren't personnel. The pieces to be prolific are there. But this isn't that kind of playbook. It's all play action and roll outs. So we're both frustrated about the pass O but whereas you're after Shea, I'm after the structure that Harbaugh prefers. It feels so self-limiting.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 02:13:47 PM
Yardage:

Michigan - 227
Maryland - 23

Points:

Michigan - 10
Maryland -7

Feelings: GUH - ffffffffffff
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 06, 2018, 02:13:57 PM
This isn’t the nfl, this is college football and you don’t throw into the middle of traffic. Excuses abound when the messiah makes a poor decision.
You are ridiculous. 
It was not a poor decision or a throw into traffic. Go watch the replay.
Gentry beat his defender and came back to the ball. He got both hands on it and HE dropped it. Ball bounced off his hands and flew into the hands of a safety who was yards behind him. 
It wasn’t a bad throw. It wasn’t into traffic. It wasn’t tipped. It was a fluke play for that defense and a really bad play by Gentry. Period.
At this level- at Michigan- YOU HAVE to catch that ball. It was a routine catch that Gentry flubbed. PERIOD. That’s not an excuse that’s just a fact homie.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 06, 2018, 02:19:51 PM
Finally a hold call for the defense!

Dwumfour shaken up. Not good. Inside DL one spot they can’t afford injury at right now.

And Brian Griese sucks. He sucked in the NFL and he sucks as a commentator. So does that fat Sportscenter reject he’s with. At least he’s not Pam Ward though. Wish Tony Romo called college games too.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: SuperMario on October 06, 2018, 02:21:27 PM
I love when people post PERIOD. As if you add that it makes your statement irrefutable.

There were three defenders within 5 yards or the pass and a DB tightly covering the TE. In my book, that’s traffic. My opinion is my opinion and it’s ok to have one that’s different, homies. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 02:24:30 PM
It's better when the conversation is nice. We're all friends here. The opinions matter less.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 02:25:48 PM
Finally a hold call for the defense!
Warde must have sent that chart to Rosemont.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 02:26:59 PM
I'll beat Super to it. That throw? Definitely 100% on Shea.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: SuperMario on October 06, 2018, 02:28:32 PM
I'll beat Super to it. That throw? Definitely 100% on Shea.
And that one too ;)
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: SuperMario on October 06, 2018, 02:29:27 PM
Now that was a great pass!!
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 06, 2018, 02:33:57 PM
Ronnie Bell already looks better than DPJ as a route runner. 

The 2* with no other offers vs the 5* #1 WR in HS. 

I don’t know what’s going on with DPJ but he’s just not developing as a route runner. 

Starting to concern me.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 02:38:03 PM
Ronnie Bell already looks better than DPJ as a route runner.

The 2* with no other offers vs the 5* #1 WR in HS.

I don’t know what’s going on with DPJ but he’s just not developing as a route runner.

Starting to concern me.
Me too. TBH, I have been skeptical of his football instincts in general. He's a great blocker though, which conflicts with my opinion.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 02:41:36 PM
I think Lewerke's lateral went forward a yard.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: TyphonInc on October 06, 2018, 02:42:24 PM
Texas up 21 on the Sooners. Moving over to the MSU vs. Nerds game.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: TyphonInc on October 06, 2018, 02:43:01 PM
I think Lewerke's lateral went forward a yard.
I Agree. And so do the Refs.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: SuperMario on October 06, 2018, 02:43:13 PM
Not to beat a dead horse, but how do you pin this on the TE and say there’s no traffic here?<br />(https://thumb.ibb.co/fYNDuK/646874_CB_3_F4_E_49_D3_919_A_9_C105_FA5_C434.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fYNDuK)<br />
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 06, 2018, 02:43:59 PM
Me too. TBH, I have been skeptical of his football instincts in general. He's a great blocker though, which conflicts with my opinion.
He’s a great blocker because he’s a freak of nature. 
With his sort of size and strength and athletic ability he should be dominant. He’s not though. His hands are pretty good too. But it’s his route running, toe tapping, knowing how to use the sideline and give himself space to make plays instead of squeezing the sideline. Also his reading of coverages is concerning. The great WRs can read the coverages and find the openings. He can’t. 
He needs a crash course with a great route running receiver to teach him. He needs to get Cris Carter’s number and beg him to train him in the off season or seomthing. 
He is so physically gifted. He should be dominating. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 06, 2018, 02:45:45 PM
Not to beat a dead horse, but how do you pin this on the TE and say there’s no traffic here?<br />(https://thumb.ibb.co/fYNDuK/646874_CB_3_F4_E_49_D3_919_A_9_C105_FA5_C434.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fYNDuK)<br />
That’s an image from a weird angle. 
The defender in front is yards away and the defender behind the DB who is holding Gentry is yards away as well. 
If anything all this picture tells me is the refs should’ve called PI or defensive holding on Maryland.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 06, 2018, 02:46:02 PM
How's the penalty count going? 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 02:46:35 PM
Not to beat a dead horse, but how do you pin this on the TE and say there’s no traffic here?<br />(https://thumb.ibb.co/fYNDuK/646874_CB_3_F4_E_49_D3_919_A_9_C105_FA5_C434.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fYNDuK)<br />
Thanks for taking the time to capture/post that. I still feel the same. The ball hits the receiver high and in the hands. And at that moment only one DB can touch him. It isn't until the ball is deflected up that anyone else can get in the area. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 06, 2018, 02:48:46 PM
If not for the dumb mistake of kicking the ball to one of the most explosive players in the B1G this game is 17-0 at the half with the defense flat out dominating even with Gary out of the line up. 

Color me impressed. So far. But they have to keep it up for 60 minutes. Haven’t seen them do that all year yet.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: SuperMario on October 06, 2018, 02:49:11 PM
Thanks for taking the time to capture/post that. I still feel the same. The ball hits the receiver high and in the hands. And at that moment only one DB can touch him. It isn't until the ball is deflected up that anyone else can get in the area.
I watched it a dozen times when the half ended. If he makes throws like that the rest of the year, we’ll be unhappy fans. It was a well covered play and the defender made a great play on the ball. Defender deserves credit and my opinion is still the same about the decisions.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 02:52:36 PM
I was wondering why Thorson didn't look like this last week (because then NU could have won), but then I watched a couple snaps and was reminded of the difference: pass rush.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 06, 2018, 02:56:25 PM
Matt Canada's offensive genius on display again. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 02:56:36 PM
Now we know why NU goes for it on 4th so much
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 06, 2018, 02:58:48 PM
Northwestern gonnna Northwestern.

They had two big drops that drive that would’ve extended drives. Nicely thrown balls that hit the receivers in both hands. Have to catch it. 

Sparty gonna squeak out the W here after that missed FG. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 06, 2018, 02:59:41 PM
McShay forgot to mention that Harbaugh was happy because he sucked him off.

Between Harbaugh and Meyer, I don't know how McShay can talk and doesn't have lock jaw.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 06, 2018, 03:00:36 PM
Matt Canada's offensive genius on display again.
Well his OL isn’t holding up it’s getting destroyed by the Michigan front 7 and Maryland’s QBs aren’t exactly what I’d call good passers.
Canada is pretty damn good imo.
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Post by: mcwterps1 on October 06, 2018, 03:01:02 PM
How's that penalty count again ?
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: TyphonInc on October 06, 2018, 03:03:42 PM
Northwestern gonnna Northwestern.

They had two big drops that drive that would’ve extended drives. Nicely thrown balls that hit the receivers in both hands. Have to catch it.

Sparty gonna squeak out the W here after that missed FG.
still feeling good about this post?
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Post by: Mdot21 on October 06, 2018, 03:05:05 PM
still feeling good about this post?
Game isn’t over yet. Plenty of time for Fitzgerald to blow it and Dantonio to pull a rabbit out of his hat.
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 03:08:16 PM
I think they have to look at the guy who speared Gentry here.
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 03:10:44 PM
Quote
Hardly ever Deep Fry but I gotta try that at least once,maybe with peanut butter & toasted rye sammich
----------------------------------------------------------------
Dude!
you are missing out on life
I saute & pan fry but filling up a fryer  and wasting lots of oil just isn't worth it for me
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 06, 2018, 03:11:44 PM
Well his OL isn’t holding up it’s getting destroyed by the Michigan front 7 and Maryland’s QBs aren’t exactly what I’d call good passers.
Canada is pretty damn good imo.
Play calling has been shit.
You're not going to sit back and pick apart Michigan's defense.
If you put Don Brown against Matt Canada I pick Brown every time.
His strength is the RB stable, and he gets behind the sticks with slow developing passes on first down? 
The OL is stacked with studs, but Don always brings more than you can block by numbers.
Canada did the same vs Temple, and it costed him. 
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 03:14:29 PM
Sooners score again with 5:11 - 7 pt ball game
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 03:16:34 PM
Wildcats about to put a dagger in Sparty
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 03:21:19 PM
Damn that STs TD. The defense deserved a shutout for this effort. Maryland with only 42 total yards on the day.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 03:23:05 PM
Texas blows a 21 pt lead,Sooners just score their 3rd TD in about 6 minutes
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 03:24:06 PM
OU scores 3 TD in about 8 min of game time....Horns gave them the ball back after 3 straight plays which stopped the clock.  Just brutal stupidity.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 06, 2018, 03:24:57 PM
Fun watching this kind of game with Gus Johnson on the mic.   What a shootout....oops, is that word allowed?
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 03:25:39 PM
Pew pew!!!
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 06, 2018, 03:26:32 PM
Wow that Maryland Lb #33 just got away with a dirty ass hit on DPJ that was targeting too boot. Kid should be kicked out of the fricken game. But DPJ gets called for a block in the back. Lol.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 03:27:26 PM
Is that Tim Brando doing MSU-NU?  Never been a fan.  Too much cheese in his scoreboard shows.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 03:28:49 PM
OU's defense has been a sieve all day.  Like embarrassing.  
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Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 06, 2018, 03:29:36 PM
And MSU comes up short.  
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 03:30:08 PM
OU's defense has been a sieve all *season*.  Like embarrassing.  
FIFY
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Post by: mcwterps1 on October 06, 2018, 03:30:13 PM
BS. 

Tre is chasing and watching the ball carrier, and Jones was in the way.  

Pretty sure it was incidental and surprising for Tre when People's was in his path.

Doubt it was spiteful. 

Oh well.

Put in the backups and get home. 
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Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 03:31:53 PM
And MSU comes up short.  
At home. That offense is rough. And though the run D could be the nation's best, that pass rush and DB combo isn't up to standards.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 03:31:57 PM
Maryland has 4 first downs.  They can't complain about anything.

Twice as much penalty yardage as total offense.  Holy shit.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 03:32:39 PM
Doubt it was spiteful.

Oh well.

Put in the backups and get home.
I agree. But the rule is itself, and written without accounting for intent.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 06, 2018, 03:32:55 PM
Oh! The poor baby under concussion protocol who took such a vicious hit makes a catch and great run for a TD.


LOL! 

Maybe a great actor. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: TyphonInc on October 06, 2018, 03:33:05 PM
woo boy, good game on FOX. Tejas trying to get a field goal with less than a minute left.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 03:33:10 PM
Nice pitch & catch by M there
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 03:34:13 PM
Dayum what's Tejas do here 4th & short,does the kid have the leg?
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: SuperMario on October 06, 2018, 03:34:51 PM
Oh! The poor baby under concussion protocol who took such a vicious hit makes a catch and great run for a TD.


LOL!

Maybe a great actor.
Seriously?
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 03:35:47 PM
Horns make it from 40yds 48-45 texas
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: TyphonInc on October 06, 2018, 03:35:56 PM
Dayum what's Tejas do here 4th & short,does the kid have the leg?
YES HE DOES!
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 03:37:01 PM
OU's comeback got Dickered
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 06, 2018, 03:37:09 PM
Maryland has 4 first downs.  They can't complain about anything.

Twice as much penalty yardage as total offense.  Holy shit.
Knew that was going to happen  
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 03:38:22 PM
RRR - 93 points scored....just your average Big XII game.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 03:40:05 PM
LSU is favored, but the ESPN potato chip computer machine says Florida should win.  Hmmph.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 03:40:23 PM
Some redemption for Tom Herman,Horns win the RRR
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: TyphonInc on October 06, 2018, 03:40:54 PM
RRR - 93 points scored....just your average Big XII game.
Little low for most B12 games though?
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 06, 2018, 03:42:21 PM
YES HE DOES!
Hell of a game.   Love listening to Gus.  
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 06, 2018, 03:45:33 PM
And the fighting Joe Burrows drive down and score.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 03:47:06 PM
Meh, let's see how they do off-script.  
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Post by: mcwterps1 on October 06, 2018, 03:57:04 PM
Take down on 93,and a hold on 25, neither called.

Go figure  
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 03:57:39 PM
If Florida is going to lose, it's because LSU is smartly picking on our green CB.  We had 2 top-notch CBs to start the year, but one is out for the season (Wilson).  As long as they keep throwing at McWilliams, (12), they can move the ball all they want.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 03:59:32 PM
Gators get a much needed turn over there
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 06, 2018, 04:00:17 PM
Wish we had a coach.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 04:20:25 PM
I know it doesn't actually matter, but I hate it when the opponent almost doubles thewir yardage for the entire day with one play at the end. I see the benefit of M going into the depth chart to finish the game, but I really wanted those shiny stats, keeping Maryland under 80 total yards on the day.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: GopherRock on October 06, 2018, 04:36:33 PM
Awful start for the Gophers. Iowa is cutting the defensive backfield to pieces. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: ELA on October 06, 2018, 04:40:48 PM
We got some Pitt-Syracuse OT
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: rook119 on October 06, 2018, 04:42:01 PM
FG kicking clinic in Pittsburgh today

Longest FG (college or pro) was 54 yards. Pitt's kicker hit a 55, 54, (both in the rain) and a 45 at the end of regulation to boot. SU's kicker 3/3 with a 54 yarder as well. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: ELA on October 06, 2018, 04:43:19 PM
FG kicking clinic in Pittsburgh today

Longest FG (college or pro) was 54 yards. Pitt's kicker hit a 55, 54, (both in the rain) and a 45 at the end of regulation to boot. SU's kicker 3/3 with a 54 yarder as well.
Logest at Heinz Field?  With the shitty grass and open end, it's a tough place to kick in.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: GopherRock on October 06, 2018, 04:46:32 PM
And now an Iowa TD out of the swinging gates formation. 

Cursing and swearing. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 06, 2018, 04:48:24 PM
I know it doesn't actually matter, but I hate it when the opponent almost doubles thewir yardage for the entire day with one play at the end. I see the benefit of M going into the depth chart to finish the game, but I really wanted those shiny stats, keeping Maryland under 80 total yards on the day.
Well, to be fair, piggy should have been the starter at quarterback from the beginning of the year. Matt seems to think he can make Hill and NFL pro-style quarterback.
This team was recruited and built to be a spread team with a running quarterback and get the ball into Playmakers hands and space.
Also to be fair, Canada might be a good offensive coordinator, but he can't be a head coach and offensive coordinator with a freshman quarterback.
He's trying to put a square peg in a round hole.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: ELA on October 06, 2018, 04:53:14 PM
Nice win for Pitt over a Syracuse team whose lone loss was a 4 point loss at Clemson.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: ELA on October 06, 2018, 05:01:30 PM
Indiana should wear these helmets every week.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 05:02:55 PM
Florida goes up 14-10.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: ELA on October 06, 2018, 05:03:27 PM
I also want to time travel back to 20 years ago to tell myself that FSU and Miami would be playing, and it would be about the 8th game on my radar
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 05:12:18 PM
I also want to time travel back to 20 years ago to tell myself that FSU and Miami would be playing, and it would be about the 8th game on my radar
Prolly just load up on Dell/Amazon stock - but that's just me
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 06, 2018, 05:13:07 PM
As expected, Buckeyes sleepwalking through the game today.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 06, 2018, 05:14:57 PM
Buckeye defense epically bad
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 06, 2018, 05:16:08 PM
Buckeye defense epically bad
No doubt.  No energy, crowd included.   Looks like they are literally half asleep.  
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: ELA on October 06, 2018, 05:18:02 PM
...checks closet for early 2000s IU gear
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: ELA on October 06, 2018, 05:18:39 PM
Prolly just load up on Dell/Amazon stock - but that's just me
Butterfly effect and all, can't do it
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MarqHusker on October 06, 2018, 05:21:16 PM
We had to pay $260 per ticket for RRS today.  It was steamy.  Great scene as usual.  Up and down emotions.   Any fan of the game should experience this matchup.   Love the State Fair scene.  Some of the dirt burglars left early around us.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 05:24:27 PM
Butterfly effect and all, can't do it
So i can't get lucky even with a time machine,Buckeyes score.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: rook119 on October 06, 2018, 05:24:58 PM
Nice win for Pitt over a Syracuse team whose lone loss was a 4 point loss at Clemson.
Pitt got screwed on a couple big calls but they really showed a lot of heart today. Kicker had the game of his life. Hall and Ollison fought for every inch. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 06, 2018, 05:26:11 PM
...checks closet for early 2000s IU gear
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: ELA on October 06, 2018, 05:35:03 PM
...checks closet for early 2000s IU gear
Back with the moth balls
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 05:35:21 PM
TD Buckeyes 28-17,Haskins 19-22 in the 1st Half.Ramsey's not having a bad day himself with 239 1st half yds
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 06:00:17 PM
How does the Buckeye "D" give up 26 pts too PSU at nite on the road and 20 at the half at home to the Hoosiers?Must miss Denzel Ward ,Kerry Coombs and Little Bosa.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: GopherRock on October 06, 2018, 06:02:47 PM
I think the Bama Banshee from Nashville has been reincarnated into the person sitting directly behind me. Eek.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 06, 2018, 06:04:56 PM
How does the Buckeye "D" give up 26 pts too PSU at nite on the road and 20 at the half at home to the Hoosiers?Must miss Denzel Ward ,Kerry Coombs and Little Bosa.
Same way they gave up 55 to Iowa last year
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 06:06:11 PM
Same way they gave up 55 to Iowa last year
Penn St hangover
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 06, 2018, 06:07:34 PM
(https://www.cfb51.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi142.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr89%2Fmcwups1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FScreenshot_20181006-175821_1_zpsnzhx6mck.jpg&hash=8af5ec50e3976a81687de51c2046f2d1) (http://s142.photobucket.com/user/mcwups1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_20181006-175821_1_zpsnzhx6mck.jpg.html)

I think we can all agree that something needs to be done on this targeting issue.

Only an idiot, someone who's never played, or a Homer like Griese, would think it was intentional.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 06:08:54 PM
71 yds Campbell TD
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 06, 2018, 06:11:25 PM
How is VT ranked again? 

Do they really have to rank every ACC team before they play Clemson to help their SOS? 

Surprised Wake wasn't ranked this week.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: ELA on October 06, 2018, 06:16:04 PM
Florida running about per usual on schedule by adopting Tom Petty after his death.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 06:32:27 PM
That series of downs Bucks O-Line looks like hot garbage.Dobbins couldn't even get a yard.Are they already winded or just looking at the scoreboard.Hoosier ball on the 42
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 06:34:54 PM
Sheffield turned around by Ramsey nice job of dropping it in there,nice pitch & grab.1st down on the 20 Indy
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 06, 2018, 06:38:48 PM
(https://www.cfb51.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi142.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr89%2Fmcwups1%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FScreenshot_20181006-175821_1_zpsnzhx6mck.jpg&hash=8af5ec50e3976a81687de51c2046f2d1) (http://s142.photobucket.com/user/mcwups1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_20181006-175821_1_zpsnzhx6mck.jpg.html)

I think we can all agree that something needs to be done on this targeting issue.

Only an idiot, someone who's never played, or a Homer like Griese, would think it was intentional.
Even accidental hits can by the rule book be targeting penalties. So intent isn't a big factor. "Intent" should a bigger factor if he's getting social media gruff, but that's separate.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 06, 2018, 06:40:22 PM
I think the Bama Banshee from Nashville has been reincarnated into the person sitting directly behind me. Eek.
Can hear the bitch on TV. I was thinking of the same exact f'ing thing. Hah!!



I know @MikeDeTiger (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1588) is wrapped up in Gator breath right now, but I just thought he'd like to see this reminder.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 06:40:35 PM
Get Sheffield out of there can't cover or tackle how was this guy a 5* 4 yrs ago
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 06:46:24 PM
Hoosiers TD and miss the 2 pt conversion.This defense is playing like spring ball.35-26 tOSU
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 06, 2018, 06:47:37 PM
No clue what the refs saw on that replay, but credit to Hoosiers
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 06, 2018, 06:54:13 PM
Screw Has****

So damn talented. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 06, 2018, 06:56:46 PM
Fooking pick Hoosiers.Fox blows they hardly show replays.The OSU O-Line is trying to out-under perform the DB's
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 06, 2018, 07:07:25 PM
Still trying to figure out the "celebration" rules.

Looks like, 

Signaling "safe" - penalty 
Rolling dice - perfectly fine
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 06, 2018, 07:09:18 PM
Happy for OAM on that win. Too bad Ol' Gator couldn't be here to post (and boast) about it. Looks like Florida is the best team in the state, as it should be. So it's been said, so it be done.




Cheers Gator. Can't say Go Bl... Can't.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 06, 2018, 07:17:19 PM
Also, is there a rule where some teams' Tackles can move almost 1 full second before the ball is actually snapped?? 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 07:18:58 PM
27 Florida
19 LSU
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 07:26:13 PM
That Minnesota trickeration was great.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: ELA on October 06, 2018, 07:35:42 PM
Also, is there a rule where some teams' Tackles can move almost 1 full second before the ball is actually snapped??
I've noticed in general they call flinches, but they don't call guys breaking early.  I don't get it.  I see it easily a dozen times in certain game.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 06, 2018, 08:01:22 PM
If Kentucky beats A&M how many teams have a better resume than they do at this point in the season?  
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 06, 2018, 08:02:46 PM
These cutesie little line shifts.....

:34:
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: utee94 on October 06, 2018, 08:03:09 PM
If Kentucky beats A&M how many teams have a better resume than they do at this point in the season?  
Texas.
Next?
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: utee94 on October 06, 2018, 08:06:55 PM
27 Florida
19 LSU
Wow LSU sucks. Good point.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 06, 2018, 08:11:23 PM
If Kentucky beats A&M how many teams have a better resume than they do at this point in the season?  
Not disputing it, but don’t they just have one top 25 win?   Hell, OSU has two top ten wins, both on the road.  How about Notre Dame?  Even after today, LSU has two top ten wins.  
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Gigem on October 06, 2018, 08:18:30 PM
If Kentucky beats A&M how many teams have a better resume than they do at this point in the season?  
I’ve got to admit I wasn’t sure how good Kentucky is but they sure are playing well. I was confident we were going to beat them but now it’s not looking too good. 
Their defense is much better than any other team we’ve faced too and that includes bama. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 06, 2018, 08:32:37 PM
Not disputing it, but don’t they just have one top 25 win?   Hell, OSU has two top ten wins, both on the road.  How about Notre Dame?  Even after today, LSU has two top ten wins.  
Yeah, Ohio St does but my point is it is a very short list.  Ohio St, ND, how many others?  Utee said Texas and it’s good but that lost to Maryland still sticks out.  Anyway, just thinking out loud.  They are far from winning this.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: utee94 on October 06, 2018, 08:37:55 PM
Yeah, Ohio St does but my point is it is a very short list.  Ohio St, ND, how many others?  Utee said Texas and it’s good but that lost to Maryland still sticks out.  Anyway, just thinking out loud.  They are far from winning this.
Look at the wins.
When the committee evaluates Alabama that's all they do. Ignore the losses and look at the wins.
And there you have it.
As for you Kris, we'll see you Nov 3rd in the ATX! ;)
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: GopherRock on October 06, 2018, 08:39:06 PM
Can hear the bitch on TV. I was thinking of the same exact f'ing thing. Hah!!



I know @MikeDeTiger (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1588) is wrapped up in Gator breath right now, but I just thought he'd like to see this reminder.
The last time I left the New Brickhouse with my ears hurting like this was for the Rolling Stones. 
Iowa fans who come here are terrible. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 08:51:56 PM
 
Their defense is much better than any other team we’ve faced too and that includes bama.
Dumbest thing I've read all day.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 06, 2018, 08:52:28 PM
Ugh. That illegal man downfield negated the VT TD.  Man, it was technically the right call but had zero to do with the play.  He was like 2 yards past where he should be on the other side of the field away from everyone. If I was a ref I may have just eaten my flag on that one.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 08:53:01 PM
Wow LSU sucks. Good point.
Be more efficient.  It's LSUCKS!
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 08:53:36 PM
Ugh. That illegal man downfield negated the VT TD.  Man, it was technically the right call but had zero to do with the play.  He was like 2 yards past where he should be on the other side of the field away from everyone. If I was a ref I may have just eaten my flag on that one.
Perhaps that's why you aren't a ref?  Rules are rules.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 06, 2018, 08:53:54 PM
Look at the wins.
When the committee evaluates Alabama that's all they do. Ignore the losses and look at the wins.
And there you have it.
As for you Kris, we'll see you Nov 3rd in the ATX! ;)
I hope we get there 7-0.  It’ll be fun.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 06, 2018, 09:02:19 PM
Perhaps that's why you aren't a ref?  Rules are rules.
Yeah, I know.  I get it.  And the thing is I really hate these RPO’s where linemen are downfield blocking.  But this kid really had no impact on the play.  He just kinda drifted a couple yards too far down the field with no one around him.
I don’t have a problem with the ref throwing the flag because it was the right call but if would have kept it in his pocket and afterwards told him to watch it I wouldn’t have had a problem with that either.  Refs warn guys all the time about stuff.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 06, 2018, 09:04:11 PM
What more can a CB do? 

Nebraska got hosed on the PI. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: rook119 on October 06, 2018, 09:06:12 PM
If Kentucky beats A&M how many teams have a better resume than they do at this point in the season?  
Assuming ND wins they'll have 3 top 25 victories. 
VT might be the last top 25 team that ND faces for the rest of the year though
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 06, 2018, 09:09:37 PM
I love these Dr Pepper commercials.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 06, 2018, 09:14:19 PM
Please tell me someone else saw that play with the Wisconsin RB busting through, getting popped by the safety, safety starts dancing- not realizing the RB just kept right on going past him, and then a Wisconsin lineman comes down and flattens the safety while he is celebrating?..

Priceless!
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 09:17:40 PM
Looks like UNL and UCLA will both be 0-5 after today.  That's a bummer, man.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 09:18:04 PM
Yup. :72:
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 06, 2018, 09:24:56 PM
Texas.
Next?
Maryland.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: utee94 on October 06, 2018, 09:35:13 PM
Maryland.
Sorry, they've only got one quality win.  Nice try.
Next?
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 06, 2018, 09:37:08 PM
1st and goal at the 1 and VT has to settle for a FG.  10-9 ND.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: utee94 on October 06, 2018, 09:37:25 PM
I love these Dr Pepper commercials.
I must admit, I'm a fan of fansville soccer mom...
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 09:47:29 PM
Elon beats James Madison.  -39.5 line on the game.  Oops.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 06, 2018, 09:56:26 PM
I must admit, I'm a fan of fansville soccer mom...

Well, yeah. Maybe. How'd all your fried stuff come out?
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 06, 2018, 10:05:52 PM
Texas A&M with an absolute abortion of a play coughs it up and UK scoops and scores with 4:17 left.  Extra point pending to tie it up.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 06, 2018, 10:10:20 PM
Honest to shit, every game I turn on anymore the head ref looks like he just stepped off the cover of Muscle and Fitness.  I miss the refs who had arms like my mom.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MarqHusker on October 06, 2018, 10:18:23 PM
Why does Camp Randall look like a dungeon on tv at night?
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MarqHusker on October 06, 2018, 10:18:51 PM
Bad targeting call.  That guy did his job 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 06, 2018, 10:21:27 PM
A&M will have a Hail Mary shot with 2 seconds left to keep it from going into OT.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Kris60 on October 06, 2018, 10:22:58 PM
OT in College Station.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MarqHusker on October 06, 2018, 10:34:35 PM
UK blew that in it.   Ready for hoops?
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 10:36:17 PM
Gig 'em!!!



Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 10:36:32 PM
Why does Camp Randall look like a dungeon on tv at night?
They're called "red rooms" now, didn't you know?
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: GopherRock on October 06, 2018, 10:40:08 PM
Va Tech has been dominating lately, but they have been shooting themselves in the foot with turnovers and mistakes
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2018, 10:46:13 PM
Wow, kicking them when they're down:

cutting in during the UNL beatdown @ Wisconsin in football to show that UNL's volleyball team lost to Minnesota.  
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 06, 2018, 10:54:33 PM
Auburn got drilled by Mississippi St
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 06, 2018, 11:19:17 PM
Bad targeting call.  That guy did his job
Yeah, not a good call at all, but I get it.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 06, 2018, 11:20:05 PM
Michigan is gonna stomp a mudhole in Wisconsin next week. Gonna be hard to watch.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 07, 2018, 12:44:34 AM
Michigan is gonna stomp a mudhole in Wisconsin next week. Gonna be hard to watch.
To me, that just looks like fancy wording for a NO WAY post.  
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 07, 2018, 07:33:32 AM
Yeah, not a good call at all, but I get it.
Wasn't intentional but was helmet-helmet unfortunately,where your shoulders & arms go your head's gonna follow.The very nature & speed of the game guarantee heads will butt
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 07, 2018, 07:34:50 AM
To me, that just looks like fancy wording for a NO WAY post.  
Badge paid attention at school....and in here
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 07, 2018, 08:41:46 AM
I guess UW Safety Scott Nelson is out the 1st half next week vs Mich.,that could hurt
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 07, 2018, 09:16:52 AM
Did anyone else watch the BTN post-game things last night?



WTF was PJ Barnum talking about?
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 07, 2018, 09:31:59 AM
Might do In n Out for lunch.
Really wish we had those here.
Best scene in Big Lewbowski (which @OrangeAfroMan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=58) ) referenced elsewhere in this thread is when they are eating In n Out in their trashed car.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 07, 2018, 09:58:18 AM
I don't get In n' Out. It's really not that great, and definitely not worth waiting so damn long for. 



I'll take a Culver's burger any time over that stuff, if I'm eating "fast" food.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 07, 2018, 10:08:44 AM
Please tell me someone else saw that play with the Wisconsin RB busting through, getting popped by the safety, safety starts dancing- not realizing the RB just kept right on going past him, and then a Wisconsin lineman comes down and flattens the safety while he is celebrating?..

Priceless!
I saw it multiple times with the replays
that is one of the problems with the defense
tackling too high
stiff arms by backs allow them to score instead of going to the ground
but, it seems defenses all across college football and the NFL tackle too high
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 07, 2018, 10:11:15 AM
The Wisconsin Butter Burger. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 07, 2018, 10:14:06 AM
Yeah, not a good call at all, but I get it.
helmet to helmet, everyone knows the deal, but players keep tackling high
bend your back and hit the offensive player in the rib cage or hip, no problem
stay below the shoulder pads and offensive players go to the ground quicker
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 07, 2018, 11:06:28 AM
In'n'Out is "OK".  I rarely do fast food, but I tried it when out that way for lunch.  Wendy's to me is about as good.

Five Guys is OK.  We have a local chain called Killer Burgers which is pretty good, but they sell $8 burgers and up.

Burgers are so quick and easy to fix at home I rarely eat them out unless traveling, and then I'd rather do a samwich.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: utee94 on October 07, 2018, 11:10:44 AM
I don't get In n' Out. It's really not that great, and definitely not worth waiting so damn long for.



I'll take a Culver's burger any time over that stuff, if I'm eating "fast" food.
In n Out is strangely overrated by California transplants, mostly.  I guess it reminds them of home or something?  Nostalgia clearly plays a part.  I'd put several fast food burger chains above them, including Culver's, and the Texas-based Whataburger.
Oh, and the fried food was delicious, thanks.  My dad did some deep fried mushrooms, too, so we got the health food covered.  My stomach this morning, on the other hand, could be doing a little better.  These days I eat a lot more salad, than I do fried foods, so it's gonna take some time for my digestion to catch up.  That's just the price I pay for a Longhorn victory over the hated Sooners. ;)
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: utee94 on October 07, 2018, 11:18:57 AM
In'n'Out is "OK".  I rarely do fast food, but I tried it when out that way for lunch.  Wendy's to me is about as good.

Five Guys is OK.  We have a local chain called Killer Burgers which is pretty good, but they sell $8 burgers and up.

Burgers are so quick and easy to fix at home I rarely eat them out unless traveling, and then I'd rather do a samwich.

I don't know which hit you're talking about, but my problem with targeting and helmet-to-helmet in general, occurs when the ballcarrier's body is moving.  I've seen perfect form tackles from defenders turn into helmet-to-helmet, when the ballcarrier dips or bends his body at the last minute.  In those instances, the helmet-to-helmet contact is inevitable and completely unintentional, yet time and time again we see the refs call it targeting.  It absolutely is NOT targeting and I hate that it's being called that way.
The other one I see is, again, a perfect form tackle from the defender, but then physics dictates that the defender's body slides up the ballcarrier as they collide, and then the defender's helmet inadvertently contacts the ballcarrier's helmet.  Again, physics demand that this happens in such a case, even if it's a perfect form tackle when the contact is initiated.  I don't think this is targeting, and it doesn't belong in the game either.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 07, 2018, 11:37:57 AM
This thread is about burgers, or mushrooms, or something.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 07, 2018, 11:41:43 AM
I've seen perfect form tackles from defenders turn into helmet-to-helmet, when the ballcarrier dips or bends his body at the last minute.  In those instances, the helmet-to-helmet contact is inevitable and completely unintentional, yet time and time again we see the refs call it targeting.  It absolutely is NOT targeting and I hate that it's being called that way.
The other one I see is, again, a perfect form tackle from the defender, but then physics dictates that the defender's body slides up the ballcarrier as they collide, and then the defender's helmet inadvertently contacts the ballcarrier's helmet.  Again, physics demand that this happens in such a case, even if it's a perfect form tackle when the contact is initiated.  I don't think this is targeting, and it doesn't belong in the game either.
Basically the same points I made when they 1st implemented this rule.Head to head contact is damn near unavoidable  different angles by different players moving in different directions with different intentions.But lets keep that under control
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 07, 2018, 11:49:16 AM
I agree with those points wholeheartedly, but...... the officials obviously do not

they only care about the helmets colliding and they will call  it and eject players

so, defenders need to be smart and avoid the somewhat unavoidable
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 07, 2018, 11:55:50 AM
Should have called the penalty but not the ejection
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 07, 2018, 11:59:27 AM
yup
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: ELA on October 07, 2018, 12:47:24 PM
Hurons can't catch a break

https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1048673822231154688?s=19
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Gigem on October 07, 2018, 12:50:16 PM
Dumbest thing I've read all day.
Dang that’s kinda rough ain’t it?  Maybe not much better but we had more points scored in regulation and more yards vs bama. Did you watch the game?  I think A&M was #7 in offense going in. They held us to 14 pts in regulation and scored on a scoop and score. 
You must still be sour about losing to them?  Still can’t believe y’all had a 31 game winning streak. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 07, 2018, 12:54:08 PM
Looking back at Eastern Michigan's 12 losses since November 2016:
• HALF were in OT
• 11/12 were by 7 points or less
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BRUTAL,would seriously make one not watch/attend/listen.Even ask the Board of Regents to take the high,merciful road and pull the plug
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 07, 2018, 01:03:50 PM
much better than bein blown out
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 07, 2018, 01:36:22 PM
Burger joints are all about nostalgia.  I covet a burger at Rally's (aka Checkers) here.  They're nothing special, but the taste takes me back to fond memories.

In 'n Out isn't special at all.  Plus their fries are THE worst.  

I've always been let down when told "you HAVE to try their burger!" - not because any of the burgers were bad, but none of them were special.  Happened with In 'n Out, happened with Culvers, happened with 5 Guys,...


Maybe burgers can't be special.  They can just take your mind back to a pleasant memory.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 07, 2018, 01:48:05 PM
Red Robin burgers are pretty good, but their not fast food

I rarely eat fast food
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 07, 2018, 01:51:19 PM
Does anyone like a burger more than the one they make at home?
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Gigem on October 07, 2018, 01:52:35 PM
Never heard of an In n Outs, never heard of a Rally’s or Checkers,or 5 guys. Have heard of Red Robbins. 

Life is pretty good here in the sticks!  
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 07, 2018, 01:52:49 PM
I liked Rally's quite a bit as a teenager, but think it's just disgusting today. 

Not sure if their quality just fell off of a cliff, or if my taste buds have changed substantially. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 07, 2018, 02:13:32 PM
Does anyone like a burger more than the one they make at home?
yes, I make a dern good burger in my kitchen and on my grill, but I don't usually have all the ingredients to put together something from the red robin menu.  
jalapeño relish, candied bacon, avocado, citrus-marinated tomatoes,  sautéed and blackened portobello mushrooms, Bleu cheese sauce, Bleu cheese crumbles, lettuce and Country Dijon Sauce, crispy onion straws, chipotle mayo, Fried jalapeño coins, jalapeño-cornmeal kaiser roll,  House-made guac, 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 07, 2018, 04:06:19 PM
If’n the burger is that good, what’d you need all that stuff for?!?
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: bayareabadger on October 07, 2018, 04:42:26 PM
If’n the burger is that good, what’d you need all that stuff for?!?
Flavor complexity 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: bayareabadger on October 07, 2018, 04:46:43 PM
So I was playing catchup on this thread, and two things stand out.

1. There's something fascinating about Michigan fans trying to get their hands around Patterson. The guy is this unstable isotope, big crazy plays and boneheaded ones. And Michigan fans strike me as wanting the world a little more orderly (at least Navarre had the decency to toss picks from the pocket). 

As for the throw to the big TE thing, I'm kinda split. The window wasn't super open or clean, but in a lot of offenses, you trust a guy to make non-clean plays. I lean toward throw it, but I can see where some discomfort comes from, though if you don't trust someone to make a play, you limit the offense a lot.

2. A lot of Matt Canada talk, play-calling breakdown. When I pulled it up, looked a lot like a Matt Canada game. Creative and quirky, sometimes less effective than you'd think (his NC State offenses felt that way). But, you have a bad QB and a sizable talent disadvantage, not much way to make all that up. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: GopherRock on October 07, 2018, 06:44:20 PM
The burger at Five Guys is decent enough. The trouble is that they charge New York prices in Rochester, Minnesota, and that ain't gonna fly. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 07, 2018, 06:48:14 PM
They also don't offer anything other than American Cheese. 

If I'm paying 8 bucks for a burger, it better have some chedda. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 07, 2018, 08:02:47 PM
Hurons can't catch a break

https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1048673822231154688?s=19
Next thing you know the PC police will make them change their name from Hurons to Warriors.. err. Golden Eagles or some other bullshit.
Then Lake Huron can be changed too, to Lake Michigan (it's technically the same Lake) ... err.... Lake Illinois… err..
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 07, 2018, 08:03:40 PM
So I was playing catchup on this thread, and two things stand out. 
Just don't put catchup on a friggin' hot dog dammit.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 07, 2018, 08:06:21 PM
Does anyone like a burger more than the one they make at home?
On occasion, yes. I often go to supper clubs in Wisconsin and they make burgers (chopped steak) from the trimmings they don't use for their steaks. Those are some fantastic burgers.
I do grind my own meat for burgers. Brisket, ribeye and skirt. That is hard to beat.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: bayareabadger on October 07, 2018, 08:50:46 PM
Just don't put catchup on a friggin' hot dog dammit.
I put ketchup on nothing, as it is an inferior condiment 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: bayareabadger on October 07, 2018, 08:51:49 PM
Looking back at Eastern Michigan's 12 losses since November 2016:
• HALF were in OT
• 11/12 were by 7 points or less
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BRUTAL,would seriously make one not watch/attend/listen.Even ask the Board of Regents to take the high,merciful road and pull the plug
And that’s an improvement!
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 07, 2018, 09:13:16 PM
They also don't offer anything other than American Cheese.

If I'm paying 8 bucks for a burger, it better have some chedda.
Maybe one of you midwestern types can explain American cheese to me.  IMO, it's bland filler crap that adds nothing to anything.
How is American cheese even a thing?!?
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 07, 2018, 09:15:13 PM
I just said I don't like it. Why are you asking me? 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 07, 2018, 09:15:50 PM
Why is there a demand for American cheese? Why is there ever a demand for any dirt cheap food? Wealth is not evenly distributed. The end.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MaximumSam on October 07, 2018, 09:57:36 PM
Maybe one of you midwestern types can explain American cheese to me.  IMO, it's bland filler crap that adds nothing to anything.
How is American cheese even a thing?!?
It is gooier than any other cheese.  No other cheese comes close for things like grilled cheese and mac and cheese.  Too bad you guys out on the coasts have inferior product to choose from.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 07, 2018, 09:58:37 PM
That'll get me going on a rant about products having an invented hierarchy of quality.  Let's just say making the most possible money doesn't require unethical greed, but basically everyone thinks it does and is wiling to go down that route.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 07, 2018, 09:59:50 PM
It is gooier than any other cheese.  No other cheese comes close for things like grilled cheese and mac and cheese.  Too bad you guys out on the coasts have inferior product to choose from.
So the argument for it is that it becomes tasteless goo??
Umm, I'll take a grilled cheese of literally ANY other cheese over American, thank you very much.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 07, 2018, 10:02:54 PM
Maybe one of you midwestern types can explain American cheese to me.  IMO, it's bland filler crap that adds nothing to anything.
How is American cheese even a thing?!?
I didn't know American Cheese was a staple for Mid-western types.I'm fairly certain Burger King/McDonalds puts it on their burgers in Florida and Arizona - so why don't you tell us
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 07, 2018, 10:06:52 PM
Midwestern cheese is usually pretty solid. Not quite as good as New England and Upstate NY, imo, but a helluva lot better than anything from the Southeast or out west. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 07, 2018, 10:09:56 PM
I put ketchup on nothing, as it is an inferior condiment
So you've never dipped French (Belgium really) Fries in some Hunts or Heinz?Ever
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 07, 2018, 10:12:40 PM
I didn't know American Cheese was a staple for Mid-western types.I'm fairly certain Burger King/McDonalds puts it on their burgers in Florida and Arizona - so why don't you tell us
Aren't you guys the cheese experts??


Also, why is everyone being a dick?
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 07, 2018, 10:20:28 PM
cause we hang around with assholes I guess - answer the question Claire
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 07, 2018, 10:39:49 PM
Midwestern cheese is usually pretty solid. Not quite as good as New England and Upstate NY, imo, but a helluva lot better than anything from the Southeast or out west.
I think WI cheese stacks up to any other.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 07, 2018, 10:44:33 PM
I'd have to have Wisconsin cheese in Wisconsin in order to get a real feel for it. Most states keep their best product for themselves and export the rest. If you get a spud in Idaho it's like twice the size of the "Idaho potatoes" that you can get around here, for example.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 07, 2018, 11:16:23 PM
Man I love cheese. parmigiano reggiano is my favorite. Expensive but so worth it.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MarqHusker on October 08, 2018, 12:04:24 AM
It is true,  Cheese (distribution), much like other small batch products are not quite accessible.   I'm not that far from Wisconsin but there's zero chance I'll see fresh cheese curds, to say nothing of certain varieties such as a bacon gouda which is just sublime.   I'm sure there are tons of great VT/NY cheeses I'll never see for the same reasons.

Having said that, Reggiano is probably my favorite.   I buy a decent sized wedge just about monthly.  
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 08, 2018, 08:34:06 AM
Aren't you guys the cheese experts??


Also, why is everyone being a dick?
Happy Columbus Day!
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Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 08, 2018, 08:46:11 AM
My buddy in France often notes that no one can govern a country with more kinds of cheese than days in the year.

And it seems to be true.  Every small district seems to have 1,2,3 kinds of cheese.  Real Roquefort is rather entertaining.

Switzerland had a lot of cows and cheese but I don't know what kind.  Holy moley, they had cheese.

Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 08, 2018, 08:58:29 AM
There are lots of things called "American" cheese. The stuff that comes in a plastic wrapper and looks like rubber is not cheese. Not sure what it is, but it's not cheese. It has to, by law, be called "processed cheese" to be sold.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 08, 2018, 09:13:25 AM
 Most states keep their best product for themselves and export the rest. 
If we get bombed back to a tribal existance and there is a famine on then yes.Otherwise producers are shipping to who ever is ponying up
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: mcwterps1 on October 08, 2018, 09:41:46 AM
This is only a horse collar in the ACC, BTW.  I know, because we've been flagged for bringing guys down by the uniform.


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Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 08, 2018, 09:46:07 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Processed_cheese

Processed cheese (also known as prepared cheesecheese product, or cheese singles) is a food product made from cheese (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese) (and sometimes other, unfermented (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermentation_(food)), dairy by-product (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By-product) ingredients), plus emulsifiers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emulsifier), saturated vegetable oils, extra salt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edible_salt)food colorings (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_coloring)whey (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whey) or sugar. As a result, many flavors, colors, and textures of processed cheese exist. Its invention is credited to Walter Gerber of Thun (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thun)Switzerland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland), in 1911.


https://www.bonappetit.com/story/what-is-processed-cheese

Processed cheese is not 100% cheese. Most of the time it hovers around 50% cheese, sometimes more and sometimes less, but at a base level, processed cheese is real cheese cut with other, non-cheese ingredients. Those extra ingredients can include salt, food dyes, preservatives, extra dairy, emulsifiers, or other artificial ingredients. These ingredients are added to melted, pasteurized cheese, which is then converted to a sliced solid, a jarred sauce, a spread, a spray, or maybe even some little oil cartridge you put in a vape and inhale. (Probably not that last one, but we wouldn't be surprised). By the time the extra ingredients are added, the actual cheese in the mix has changed significantly in terms of both flavor and texture.

Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 08, 2018, 09:46:54 AM
There is an equivalent, somewhat, in butter, which is butter "cut" with canola oil (which is an interesting story in itself).

It's not bad and spreads easily when cold.

Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 08, 2018, 09:55:07 AM
Happy Columbus Day!
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I think you mean "Happy Indigenous People's Day!"
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 08, 2018, 09:58:41 AM
So the Swiss are to blame for "processed cheese food"?  Great.



This is what I'm talking about - creating as cheap a product as possible, while still being allowed to call it something better.  
The 54.5" TV gets to call itself 55".
The 51% cheese play-doh slices gets people to call it cheese.
The pink slime + facial muscle tissue play-doh gets to call itself beef.

This could all be curtailed and the BS eliminated, but no, not at the expense of some damned quarterly report.  God forbid!
Hell, who doesn't love beer commercials advertising being "the coldest" beer - WTF?!?  "The most crisp" - da fukk???


It's all broken.  
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 08, 2018, 10:03:22 AM
We have pretty good "truth in labeling laws" that for the most part work if you spend a tiny bit of time reading labels or whatever.

A problem at times happens when the labeling requirements become so intrusive that companies come out with massive long lists on "warnings" etc. that no one reads.  I just signed a loan agreement.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 08, 2018, 10:06:44 AM
I think you mean "Happy Indigenous People's Day!"

Happy Canadian Thanksgiving
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 08, 2018, 10:09:41 AM
I'm not a SJW, but the Indigenous People's Day is much better than Columbus Day.  How people take pride in tradition over facts is beyond me.
Referring to Native Americans as Indians for like 500 years is embarrassing.  Not because it was originally wrong, not because it might be offensive, but because we knew it was wrong for 499 of those years and were too lazy to fix it.

Celebrating a guy who "discovered" a place with millions of people already living there is also embarrassing.  Not because his "discovery" led to many of them being killed, not because it's offensive, but because Columbus didn't discover anything.  Embarrassing.

Meanwhile, we have the Indigenous peoples...who have, honestly, been victimized for 500 years.  They're basically gone, all their dialects and customs - all dying out.  Even the largest tribes' languages will basically be gone in another generation or two.  I mostly respect them for the same reason they "lost" in the grand scheme of things - they lived in balance with their surroundings.  Something our "modern" society simply cannot do.  Yes, given enough time, they would have "advanced" to dominating and polluting their lands, but were never really given the chance.  So they stand, idealized, as being wise enough to live in harmony with nature.

And I've got to say it, again, it's embarrassing that with what we know (not controversial BS as one side will suggest - what we KNOW), the fact that we're unwilling to advance further and live in harmony with nature once again.  Because of quarterly reports.  That's the reason.  We're signing bills to allow poisonous things into our own water supply.  In 2018.  Because we're so advanced.  

So while many bleeding hearts might want IPD over CD because of rape or pillage or diseased blankets, I prefer it because it sort of nixes an embarrassment of our culture.  Don't worry, there are plenty of others.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 08, 2018, 10:11:01 AM
We have pretty good "truth in labeling laws" that for the most part work if you spend a tiny bit of time reading labels or whatever.

A problem at times happens when the labeling requirements become so intrusive that companies come out with massive long lists on "warnings" etc. that no one reads.  I just signed a loan agreement.
Right, the fast-talking voice at the end of the commercial, the tiny label on the back of the bottle or can....it's crap.  The commercial with 29 seconds of colorful, misleading BS vs the 1 second of honest babble.  
It's broken.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 08, 2018, 10:15:48 AM
Human groups have been subjugating and mistreating other human groups for quite a long time.

The Mongols are an interesting case study.  Their influence on modern history is something we often overlook.  They actually had "rules", usually, but the rules were not very nice of course.  They had a major influence on the development of China, Korea, Japan, Russia, Iran, Poland, etc.

Charles Martel is another figure in history that had a major and unexpected influence on the course of history.  His grandson was also pretty great.

I'm fascinated today in how history is so fascinating to me, while back in school it was by far my least favorite subject when I had to take it.  It was painful.  



Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 08, 2018, 10:17:30 AM
I worked for a company that did quite a lot of advertising.  Basically you have a cadre of pretty smart folks figuring out how they can "bend the rules" and not get caught, versus some rather disinterested government folks who are charged with catching them.

It's an unequal contest, inherently.

My favorite claim was "whiter than white", which actually is technically accurate.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: fezzador on October 08, 2018, 10:25:10 AM
I'm in the camp that believes that American cheese is not real cheese.  It's just not.  I much prefer sharp cheddar and Muenster (when I'm in the mood for something milder).

I will say this though.  Big Macs would be closer to $7 if they used actual cheddar rather than the processed junk they currently put on their sandwiches.

Oh, and speaking of french fries.  I've never tried it, but I'd love to sometime:  can anyone confirm that vinegar on fries is really, really tasty?
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 08, 2018, 10:25:28 AM
And of course there is the "caveat emptor" concept, which can be tough to manage these days.

I'm always struck by the ads that imply that taking "X" will make "Y" better in your life, not the prescription drugs, but the "nutraceuticals".

There is one that basically claims it will keep your mind sharp derived from jellyfish.  I'm not sure how that one stays on the market.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 08, 2018, 10:26:19 AM
The processed cheese melts and doesn't separate when heated.  If you use "real cheese", you're going to get ugly goo.

Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 08, 2018, 10:46:07 AM
I'm in the camp that believes that American cheese is not real cheese.  It's just not.  I much prefer sharp cheddar and Muenster (when I'm in the mood for something milder).

I will say this though.  Big Macs would be closer to $7 if they used actual cheddar rather than the processed junk they currently put on their sandwiches.

Oh, and speaking of french fries.  I've never tried it, but I'd love to sometime:  can anyone confirm that vinegar on fries is really, really tasty?
I've taken that a little further. I par-boil cut potatoes in a vinegar, salt and water mixture prior to frying or baking. Vinegar is very good with potatoes.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 08, 2018, 11:01:24 AM
Vinegar is a great way to make your fries stink and taste bad. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 08, 2018, 11:08:27 AM
Human groups have been subjugating and mistreating other human groups for quite a long time.


I'm fascinated today in how history is so fascinating to me, while back in school it was by far my least favorite subject when I had to take it.  It was painful.  




1 - of course they have, and with that knowledge, we can either celebrate the innocent/victims or their incompetent/advanced/destroyers.  
2 - Same here.  Most especially the hominid evolution class I took and didn't open the book for during the class, but I couldn't put it down the very next semester.  That was dumb.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 08, 2018, 11:10:51 AM
And of course there is the "caveat emptor" concept, which can be tough to manage these days.

I'm always struck by the ads that imply that taking "X" will make "Y" better in your life, not the prescription drugs, but the "nutraceuticals".

There is one that basically claims it will keep your mind sharp derived from jellyfish.  I'm not sure how that one stays on the market.
Because some portion of the population simply believes anything they're told.  Again, embarrassing.  
This will make your pecker hard.
This will make your life better.
Tell your doctor this is the drug you want.
This will give you energy.
No one respects women more than me, that I can tell you.
I did not have sexual relations with that woman.
This is all-natural.
Ugh.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 08, 2018, 11:23:22 AM
Oh, and speaking of french fries.  I've never tried it, but I'd love to sometime:  can anyone confirm that vinegar on fries is really, really tasty?
Oh yeah.
When I eat fish & chips, I always keep that bottle of malt vinegar beyond just the fish... That stuff goes on the "chips" too. Delicious.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 08, 2018, 11:26:34 AM
I'm always struck by the ads that imply that taking "X" will make "Y" better in your life, not the prescription drugs, but the "nutraceuticals".

There is one that basically claims it will keep your mind sharp derived from jellyfish.  I'm not sure how that one stays on the market.
Drugs, i.e. medicines designed to cure or treat disease, are regulated by the FDA. "Dietary supplements" are not. 
As long as the dietary supplements don't make actual medical claims to cure or treat a medical condition, they are left alone. So again, the marketing folks need to figure out where that line is and make all sorts of speculative claims that fall short of actual medical claims, and they're left alone by the FDA. 

And that's just supplements... Bottles which actually contain the substance on the label. Don't get me started on homeopathy. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 08, 2018, 11:46:34 AM
So I was relaxing with my wife yesterday, watching the NFL, and didn't get to see all of you disparaging In n Out. For shame!

Time for the defense of In n Out that you haven't heard. Because people talk about how "great" In n Out is, and then people get unrealistic expectations, expectations that it assuredly could never live up to.

So let's talk first about what In n Out isn't. It's not gourmet. It's not a steakhouse-style burger. It's not Five Guys. It's not designed to wow you, or do anything special. It won't cure cancer or ED, it won't cause the clouds to part and the heavens to open amidst choruses of angels. It's just a burger.

So when you compare In n Out to other burgers, you need to set the parameters of comparison. It's not comparable to a steakhouse or Five Guys burgers in the same way that New York pizza isn't really comparable to Chicago deep dish even though they are both called pizza, or how a roast beef deli sandwich isn't comparable to a french dip even though they are both thin-sliced roast beef served between bread.

The proper comparisons to In n Out are the Big Mac, the Whopper, the Wendy's burger, etc. Fast food. The thing that we all love to hate, because most fast food is just purely a vessel for filling our faces with cheap and moderately satisfying calories. Fat, carbs, and salt.

What do you typically notice about all of those fast food joints [In n Out the exception]? When you see the commercials, and then you get the food at the restaurant, they don't look the same. The ones with lettuce have wilted, nasty lettuce, sliced so thin that you aren't sure of its provision. If they have tomatoes, they're usually nasty. Minced onion that came from a bag of frozen crap. Buns that don't really taste like bread. They're just white and flavorless. Slices of the cheapest "cheese" they can order. And the burger meat is just a gray mass of crap. It doesn't taste like anything. And on a big mac, that "special sauce" tastes like colored mayonnaise. There's no flavor to be had.

It's here that you recognize why In n Out is so loved. In n Out is merely a very well-executed burger, loaded with fresh ingredients that taste how they look.


And something about In n Out's quality control is so good that every time I eat there, it's ALWAYS done right. I've never pulled out of the drive through with a wrong order. Even when ordering off the "secret" menu, it's always right.

In n Out isn't some special life-changing experience. It's just a burger. A fast food burger, and priced as such. But it's the fast food burger that all others should aspire to be. It's just done right, and in a world where there's so much crap that looks like they're sacrificing quality to get an extra quarter-penny of margin, it's still just done right.

But yeah... The fries suck. I'm thinking of starting to order them "well done", i.e. double-fried, because they're not good. Usually if you eat AT the store, the fries are okay, but you have to eat them before you even pick up your burger because they go downhill fast. However, they are made with fresh potatoes, cut and fried on-demand, and don't come out of a frozen bag. So even though I don't particularly like them, it's not because they're skimping.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 08, 2018, 12:03:51 PM
My buddy in France often notes that no one can govern a country with more kinds of cheese than days in the year.

And it seems to be true.  Every small district seems to have 1,2,3 kinds of cheese.  Real Roquefort is rather entertaining.

Switzerland had a lot of cows and cheese but I don't know what kind.  Holy moley, they had cheese.
Italian cheese > French cheese.
Italian food > French food.
French wine > Italian wine.
That's how I see it.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 08, 2018, 12:22:40 PM
I like most all of Western European foods, as well as Greek.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 08, 2018, 12:27:00 PM
Italian cheese > French cheese.
Italian food > French food.
French wine > Italian wine.
That's how I see it.
When we were in Europe, my wife actually preferred the Italian wines to the ones we had in France. Of course, it's a small sample size [and the sample size in France was even smaller as we spent less time there], but her favorite wines were in the Cinque Terre. 
And our take on the difference in food between the two countries was that the Italians thought you should enjoy their food because it was amazing, while the French thought you should enjoy their food because it was French. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 08, 2018, 12:43:26 PM
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Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 08, 2018, 12:50:07 PM
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They actually don't do those any more... Now the biggest you can get is a 4x4.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 08, 2018, 01:18:01 PM
I like most all of Western European foods, as well as Greek.
I've only been there once but I thought the food in the U.K. was pretty bad man.
For the most part though, I agree. I was surprised by how much I liked the food in Germany. Same thing with Amsterdam really.
Italy, France, and Spain all honestly just have some great food. Really just some of the best.
I've never been to Greece, but I do love Greek food. Definitely in my top 5.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Mdot21 on October 08, 2018, 01:21:55 PM
When we were in Europe, my wife actually preferred the Italian wines to the ones we had in France. Of course, it's a small sample size [and the sample size in France was even smaller as we spent less time there], but her favorite wines were in the Cinque Terre.
And our take on the difference in food between the two countries was that the Italians thought you should enjoy their food because it was amazing, while the French thought you should enjoy their food because it was French.
Sounds about right. The French are definitely arrogant. The thing with France is you have to do your research and know where to go to get a good meal. The food can be great but you have to find it. If you just walk into any spot off the street, chances are it's not going to be any good. I've had some horrible meals in France and some really great ones as well.
I feel like with Italy, you can just walk into almost any place even a little hole in the wall and have a really good meal. Never had a bad bite of anything in Italy. Ever. And the people are way nicer. They drive like shit, but they are pretty nice.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 08, 2018, 01:23:18 PM
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This dipshit just spent $70 on fast food!
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 08, 2018, 01:50:35 PM
probably at least $100
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 08, 2018, 01:51:57 PM
They actually don't do those any more... Now the biggest you can get is a 4x4.
Damn you Jerry Brown!
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MarqHusker on October 08, 2018, 01:58:29 PM
Mediterranean food (not just Greek) is my favorite cuisine. 

I've never seen such a full throated defense of fast food before.  Well done, I don't disagree with the POV at all.    The problem with In-N-Out is really the 'fanboys' of it, not the food itself, which as you described, is what it is.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 08, 2018, 01:58:54 PM
The pink slime + facial muscle tissue play-doh gets to call itself beef.


that's you beef hot dog or wiener 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 08, 2018, 02:28:24 PM
Hot dogs are the one thing I go kosher on. No steer foreskins for me.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 08, 2018, 02:37:13 PM
I get dogs from the local butcher these days. No lips and a-holes in my hot dog, thank you.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 08, 2018, 02:58:36 PM
I have been to France probably 20 times total now, 2-3 times a year.  My take on eating food out is walk until you have not seen another American, and walk another few blocks, and you probably will find good places to eat.  Really good often as not.  And of course, there is no single type of French food or style.  What you will find in Bordeaux is different from Paris.  Lyon is generally considered the culinary mecca in France and based on my limited experience I would agree.  The primary wine there, not surprisingly, is Beaujolais, not the "nouveau" stuff we get here, but the real stuff from Gamay grapes.

They also treat you very well in my experience, and I've been on my own quite a few times now as well.  The "touristy" spots are just that, like being in Pigeon Forge, almost.  Sort of.  Well, not that bad.  Nowhere near that bad, but touristy nonetheless.

My wife oddly enough prefers American wines on the whole and I prefer French, though I really like American and Italian and Spanish and Germans wines as well.  There are general differences of course, but the differences are less that one is better than they are different and you may prefer A over B.  Or not.  All of my wine friends "in the business" prefer French wines over Italian mainly because of Champagne, they all really like Champagne a lot.  I do pretty well myself with the Cremant types which are far less expensive, or Cavas which are much much less expensive and often quite good.

I have not been to Italy or Spain nearly as much, just a few days in both cases, not enough to form a real opinion.

A few years back, I gave an invited talk at a French wine conference about the differences and similarities between American and French wines.  It was pretty entertaining I think, for me anyway.  And the food was good.  They don't know much about American viniculture of course.

Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 08, 2018, 03:26:25 PM
I liked that movie with the new Capt. Kirk about California wine vs French wine.  
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 08, 2018, 03:31:16 PM
I like Washington wines, although mainstream has been catching on to them for a while now. They used to be a bargain.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 08, 2018, 03:31:26 PM
I have been to France probably 20 times total now, 2-3 times a year.  My take on eating food out is walk until you have not seen another American, and walk another few blocks, and you probably will find good places to eat.  Really good often as not.  And of course, there is no single type of French food or style.  What you will find in Bordeaux is different from Paris.  Lyon is generally considered the culinary mecca in France and based on my limited experience I would agree.  The primary wine there, not surprisingly, is Beaujolais, not the "nouveau" stuff we get here, but the real stuff from Gamay grapes.

They also treat you very well in my experience, and I've been on my own quite a few times now as well.  The "touristy" spots are just that, like being in Pigeon Forge, almost.  Sort of.  Well, not that bad.  Nowhere near that bad, but touristy nonetheless.
Obviously I don't have much to say. I've been to downtown Paris for ~3 days this spring, and to Versailles for <48 hours for work in 2006. So I can't say I ventured beyond a tourist area. It was pretty much all tourist areas lol...
But as others brought up, basically everywhere we ate in Rome, Cinque Terre [touristy vacation spot] and Florence was amazing. The only bad things I can recall were the pizza at the Vatican cafeteria, and one sidewalk spot in Florence that was merely so-so. 
Whereas nothing we had in Paris was really very impressive.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 08, 2018, 03:41:14 PM
Absolutely love Florence. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 08, 2018, 03:47:15 PM
I tell folks Paris is my least favorite city in France, and they guffaw and gush about how they LOVED it.

I think my "sense of humor" is something a lot of folks miss.  Oddly enough.

The wife laughs, she grew up in Paris and knows what I mean.  Most Americans get to go to France once in their life, perhaps, and it will be Paris, and they miss out on the rest of the country.  It's akin to visiting the States and spending 3 days in NYC and one day in DC.

Almost.  France of course is smaller.

Bayeux was a nice place to visit I thought.

Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 08, 2018, 03:48:10 PM
My step daughter lives with her family in Rambouillet.  They moved recently from near Versailles.  That seems like a nice city, the former.
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Post by: fezzador on October 08, 2018, 03:52:23 PM
Mediterranean food (not just Greek) is my favorite cuisine.  

I've never seen such a full throated defense of fast food before.  Well done, I don't disagree with the POV at all.    The problem with In-N-Out is really the 'fanboys' of it, not the food itself, which as you described, is what it is.
Agreed, Mediterranean food is awesome.  Gyros, kebabs, falafel.... all awesome.
I also really enjoy Indian food.  Might be my favorite ethnic food.  Hell, I like most kinds of Asian food.  Thai especially.  That's some good eats right there.  I want to say that the clear noodles are actually Chinese in origin, but is more commonly associated with Thai cuisine.  And lots of peanuts.  Thai food might be the spiciest stuff I've ever had too.
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 08, 2018, 04:02:17 PM
I may have mentioned a Thai place near us that claims to have been the first Thai restaurant in Atlanta - in 1977.

It's hard to imagine a large city with no Thai restaurants, etc.  

I know my first "Mexican" food was after I had started college.  I had my first pizza when I was about 16.  My Dad didn't cotton to food of that ilk, we had a pretty banal diet growing up.  My mom was a good cook though.

I think my first Chinese food was years after all that.  I can't recall when it was.  

We're lucky to have adopted so many different kinds of food.  The wife and I were reading the menu of a new Vietnamese place near us today.  Had it not been so busy we would have tried it.  It looked fine.  Just 3 blocks from us is a restaurant row in effect and this is on it now.

Up the street is a Spanish restaurant, which is really good also.  There are a number of poke places around for whatever reason.  We had brunch yesterday at a place called Cafe Intermezzo that LOOKS like Paris, and the wife loved it. 

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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 08, 2018, 04:04:43 PM
I've never seen such a full throated defense of fast food before.  Well done, I don't disagree with the POV at all.    The problem with In-N-Out is really the 'fanboys' of it, not the food itself, which as you described, is what it is.
Yeah, and in some ways it's not even that they're "fanboys" at all. I gush about In n Out when I talk about it. 
The problem is that people hear how much we like it and get such insane expectations, and then they're let down. 
It's a burger. It's not a BJ from a supermodel. But people talk so insanely highly of In n Out that the expectations are the latter. 
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 08, 2018, 04:12:09 PM
I may have mentioned a Thai place near us that claims to have been the first Thai restaurant in Atlanta - in 1977.
I wonder how that goes. Do you think they make it "super-authentic" because they know they're going to be the place that gets the entire Thai population for miles around, or do they try to Americanize it to make it better for the locals?

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I know my first "Mexican" food was after I had started college.  I had my first pizza when I was about 16.  My Dad didn't cotton to food of that ilk, we had a pretty banal diet growing up.  My mom was a good cook though.

Yeah, and when I lived in Atlanta, if it wasn't on Buford Highway, it probably wasn't "real" Mexican food.
Can't imagine not having pizza, though... That's just weird! :a102:



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I think my first Chinese food was years after all that.  I can't recall when it was.

Most people in America haven't had Chinese food. They've had American Chinese food. 



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We're lucky to have adopted so many different kinds of food.  The wife and I were reading the menu of a new Vietnamese place near us today.  Had it not been so busy we would have tried it.  It looked fine.  Just 3 blocks from us is a restaurant row in effect and this is on it now.

For the life of me, I don't understand picky eaters. There are so many amazing cuisines from all over the globe. I can't imagine deliberately walling myself off to that because I'm not familiar with them. 
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 08, 2018, 04:13:09 PM
 I gush about In n Out when I talk about it.
The problem is that people hear how much we like it and get such insane expectations, and then they're let down.
It's a burger. It's not a BJ from a supermodel. But people talk so insanely highly of In n Out that the expectations are the latter.
Well ya know people hear in and out and it automatically raises the bar from a salivation stand point
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 08, 2018, 04:15:51 PM
Most people in America haven't had Chinese food. They've had American Chinese food.
Most probably wouldn't really want Chinese food. I've not been but I've heard stories from friends who have. Doesn't sound good at all.
Anyway, I do get a kick out of the fact that one of the busiest Chinese restaurant around my hood has a bunch of Mexicans working in the kitchen.
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 08, 2018, 04:24:00 PM
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 08, 2018, 04:24:44 PM
I've eaten in Chinese restaurants where we were the only nonAsians dining there.  They had two menus, one for "us" and one for the Chinese/Asians.  They had different selections.  My only complaint was that the shrimp were shell on, pepper shrimp.

I'm not too crazy about chitin in my diet.

My Dad would only eat "American food", so that's all we had, until I got out of the house.

We're very lucky to have such a profusion of styles.

It's interesting though that American French restaurants are almost always on the expensive side.  They needn't be, but are.  We associate French "cuisine" (which means kitchen) with pricey food.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 08, 2018, 04:29:36 PM
Most probably wouldn't really want Chinese food. I've not been but I've heard stories from friends who have. Doesn't sound good at all.
You're a foodie, Badge... I'll bet you'd be into it.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 08, 2018, 04:33:34 PM
You're a foodie, Badge... I'll bet you'd be into it.
I don't think so. My SIL is Chinese and even she can't stand it. She was just over there too. Plus, you can't breathe there, so... Nah.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 08, 2018, 04:35:24 PM
I've eaten in Chinese restaurants where we were the only nonAsians dining there.  They had two menus, one for "us" and one for the Chinese/Asians.  They had different selections.  My only complaint was that the shrimp were shell on, pepper shrimp.

I'm not too crazy about chitin in my diet.
Yeah, over there there are a lot of dishes that are shell-on, head-on. Fried at high heat in the wok so the shell is ultra-crispy, and then doused in salt and white pepper... Delicious!
Oddly enough, I had gone to China and was telling one of my good friends [who is half-Filipino and eats his grandmother's traditional Filipino fare] about eating the shrimp with the head/shell on. He looked at me like I was crazy.
Fast forward a year to when I was in Taiwan at a restaurant with coworkers, and a similar dish came out. I was eating it head-on with the native Taiwanese, and there was one guy in our group who was peeling and eating his shrimp. He was Filipino...
Just different customs... 
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 08, 2018, 04:42:10 PM
I'll pass on the chitin.

Roach carapaces are also made of chitin.  It's a fascinating material, similar to cellulose, but very different in properties of course.

Not good fer eatin, just good fer lookin' through.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 08, 2018, 04:45:38 PM
Their taste in mammals is also much different than ours.
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Post by: Mdot21 on October 08, 2018, 04:54:06 PM
Absolutely love Florence.
Have yet to go. I've been to Italy twice and Sicily once. Went to Rome, Venice, Naples, and Milan in the mainland. And when I went to Sicily I went for 10 days and rented a car and drove around a lot of the island. Absolutely unreal. Nothing quite like Sicily. Probably the best food I've ever had in my life. Only regret I have is I didn't go to Mt Etna.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 08, 2018, 04:57:07 PM
We're going to do Sicily as part of a cruise, but stay there for a week too. I need to find my grandpa's house, near Palermo.
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Post by: Mdot21 on October 08, 2018, 04:58:36 PM
Obviously I don't have much to say. I've been to downtown Paris for ~3 days this spring, and to Versailles for <48 hours for work in 2006. So I can't say I ventured beyond a tourist area. It was pretty much all tourist areas lol...
But as others brought up, basically everywhere we ate in Rome, Cinque Terre [touristy vacation spot] and Florence was amazing. The only bad things I can recall were the pizza at the Vatican cafeteria, and one sidewalk spot in Florence that was merely so-so.
Whereas nothing we had in Paris was really very impressive.
I've been to France 6 times and Paris 5 times and the first two times I was in Paris I kept being disappointed in the food. I hadn't done any research online or in travel mags for restaurants. I did the last 3 times I went back, and I had some amazing food. You have to know where to go in Paris to eat a great meal. It's just such a big city and such a big tourist trap that unfortunately the terrible restaurants outweigh the good ones.
Next time you go back, use TripAdvisor or Google reviews and you'll be OK.
Italy though- like everyone said- you can walk in just about any spot and have a really good meal. And usually for a lot less money than you can in France.
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 08, 2018, 05:01:32 PM
The more legit the Chinese joint, the less I like it.  
My tongue is 'Muricanized in that regard.  
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Post by: Mdot21 on October 08, 2018, 05:09:11 PM
We're going to do Sicily as part of a cruise, but stay there for a week too. I need to find my grandpa's house, near Palermo.
if you're there for a week you should definitely rent a car.
Such a small island that you can travel to almost any city within 4 hrs. Flew into Catania, rented a car and was basically on the go non-stop for 10 days and flew back from Palermo.
Went to Catania, Taormina & Castelmola, Syracuse, Agrigento, Porto Palo, and Palermo. The fish market in Syracuse is insane. All kinds of fish everywhere that were just caught that morning. Raw fish everyone and not a hint of that nasty fish smell.
There's this little hotel/restaurant right on the beach in Porto Palo called Da Vittorio. Probably the best seafood pasta dish I've ever had in my life. And the lobster was amazing.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 08, 2018, 05:10:20 PM
I've been to France 6 times and Paris 5 times and the first two times I was in Paris I kept being disappointed in the food. I hadn't done any research online or in travel mags for restaurants. I did the last 3 times I went back, and I had some amazing food. You have to know where to go in Paris to eat a great meal. It's just such a big city and such a big tourist trap that unfortunately the terrible restaurants outweigh the good ones.
Next time you go back, use TripAdvisor or Google reviews and you'll be OK.
Italy though- like everyone said- you can walk in just about any spot and have a really good meal. And usually for a lot less money than you can in France.

I couldn't believe the food you could get for so little money there. Hell, even if you sit down at an outdoor joint for a glass of wine they GIVE you half of a meal with cheese, olives, breads, sausage, etc. It's amazing.
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Post by: Mdot21 on October 08, 2018, 05:12:06 PM
I tell folks Paris is my least favorite city in France, and they guffaw and gush about how they LOVED it.

I think my "sense of humor" is something a lot of folks miss.  Oddly enough.

The wife laughs, she grew up in Paris and knows what I mean.  Most Americans get to go to France once in their life, perhaps, and it will be Paris, and they miss out on the rest of the country.  It's akin to visiting the States and spending 3 days in NYC and one day in DC.

Almost.  France of course is smaller.

Bayeux was a nice place to visit I thought.
Paris is my favorite city, period. Nothing quite like it anywhere. I could actually live there. I think.
Have you ever been to Annecy in the French Alps? Probably the most beautiful, picturesque place I've ever witnessed in person. We rented a boat and went all over the lake for basically the entire day. Unbelievably gorgeous.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 08, 2018, 05:17:16 PM
if you're there for a week you should definitely rent a car.
Such a small island that you can travel to almost any city within 4 hrs. Flew into Catania, rented a car and was basically on the go non-stop for 10 days and flew back from Palermo.
Went to Catania, Taormina & Castelmola, Syracuse, Agrigento, Porto Palo, and Palermo. The fish market in Syracuse is insane. All kinds of fish everywhere that were just caught that morning. Raw fish everyone and not a hint of that nasty fish smell.
There's this little hotel/restaurant right on the beach in Porto Palo called Da Vittorio. Probably the best seafood pasta dish I've ever had in my life. And the lobster was amazing.
Interestingly enough, my former favorite restaurant here in town was Vittorio. Unfortunately Vittorio got divorced and the wife took it from him. She ran it down. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 08, 2018, 05:20:36 PM
Stayed in Evian once, drove around the Alps, and Chamonix.
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 08, 2018, 05:22:38 PM
Their taste in mammals is also much different than ours.
And I behaved and kept my mouth shut
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 08, 2018, 05:22:45 PM
The wife and I are going to Rome and Paris sans kids in March, so y'all let me know
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Post by: Mdot21 on October 08, 2018, 05:26:30 PM
The wife and I are going to Rome and Paris sans kids in March, so y'all let me know
I'll definitely PM you some recs for both spots. Rome is awesome. Paris is too. You guys will have a blast.
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Post by: MarqHusker on October 08, 2018, 05:29:54 PM
The more legit the Chinese joint, the less I like it.  
My tongue is 'Muricanized in that regard.  
I also frequent  (Cantonese, Sichuan and Huan styles, as well as Mandarin, which always confuses me, I don't what it means, other than 'not-Cantonese)) Chinese restaurant with a 'yellow' menu for natives, and then the 'white' menu for everybody else.  
There are some items on the 'yellow' menu that I like but its very much flavor, spice and texture profiles which are the biggest differences.   
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 08, 2018, 05:31:05 PM
I like Florence a lot more than Rome. Rome was very busy and had lots of bustle. Florence was relaxed, extremely friendly and just loaded with stuff to do. We used it as a base from which to explore Tuscany. I could live in Tuscany. No doubt.
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Post by: Mdot21 on October 08, 2018, 05:32:19 PM
Stayed in Evian once, drove around the Alps, and Chamonix.
well you go to France quite a lot it sounds like. If you get the chance to go back to the French Alps in late spring or summer check out Annecy and rent a boat on the lake.
It's only like 25 miles from the Geneva Airport.
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Post by: Mdot21 on October 08, 2018, 05:37:35 PM
I like Florence a lot more than Rome. Rome was very busy and had lots of bustle. Florence was relaxed, extremely friendly and just loaded with stuff to do. We used it as a base from which to explore Tuscany. I could live in Tuscany. No doubt.
that's what a lot of people I know who have been to both say. I've yet to go to Florence unfortunately.
I'm a huge history buff, so Rome was pretty much candy for me.
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Post by: MaximumSam on October 08, 2018, 06:06:19 PM
I'll definitely PM you some recs for both spots. Rome is awesome. Paris is too. You guys will have a blast.
Heck yes! Thanks. I know we are staying by the colosseum in Rome. A little more fuzzy on Paris. Looks like about a ten minute walk north of the Louvre
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 08, 2018, 06:33:49 PM
l'oie restaurant paris 17

This is our place in Paris.  There are of course many other good ones.
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 08, 2018, 07:06:41 PM
My place in Paris is Phat Phil's BBQ.  
Paris, TX
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Post by: FearlessF on October 08, 2018, 07:25:22 PM
Phat Phil Fulmer?
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Post by: Mdot21 on October 08, 2018, 08:56:00 PM
Heck yes! Thanks. I know we are staying by the colosseum in Rome. A little more fuzzy on Paris. Looks like about a ten minute walk north of the Louvre
if you haven't already booked the place in Paris yet or can change, you might want to think about staying in Montmartre. Montmartre is the highest point in the city and the views you'll get of the city are unbelievable. The neighborhood is just gorgeous. The place I stayed at last time I was there was right next to the Sacred Heart basilica.
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Post by: bayareabadger on October 08, 2018, 09:06:24 PM
So you've never dipped French (Belgium really) Fries in some Hunts or Heinz?Ever
I have, don’t like it. Give me mustard or something else. Man good mustard is great.
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 08, 2018, 09:12:51 PM
 Only regret I have is I didn't go to Mt Etna.
Well if you do ever go don't watch a Michigan game on it.You might twist off and trigger something that'd make Pompeii look like a sparkler
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 08, 2018, 09:32:59 PM
I get dogs from the local butcher these days. 
we're not discussing Chinese right now
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Post by: FearlessF on October 08, 2018, 11:42:48 PM
I have, don’t like it. Give me mustard or something else. Man good mustard is great.
don't think I've dumped ketchup on anything since I was in high school
late 70s
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 08, 2018, 11:48:21 PM
What about Mayochup?  Or Tartarchup?  Great with fried catfish!
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 09, 2018, 05:21:30 AM
Some advice for visiting Paris (or any European city really):

1.  Try not to look like an obvious American - no white socks, no T-shirt with whatever printed on it, no short pants, no big honking camera around your neck (if possible), no tennis shoes, no ball cap (they call it a casket).  You still will, but will be less obvious.
2.  Carry a thin wallet with minimal money and one credit card in your front pocket, and if you want a fake wallet in your back.  Have a few euros in your other front pocket loose for "incidentals".  Don't pull your wallet out and leave it on a table at a restaurant.  Don't let anyone take your credit card back somewhere, they will bring the charge gadget to your table.
3.  If anyone stops you in the street, keep walking, they are distracting you while someone else steals your wallet.  This will happen often, sometimes young girls asking if you speak English or lost this ring, whatever, keep walking.  Parisians do not talk to strangers.
4.  The Montmarte area is touristy and also pretty rife with crime and begging.  Don't give money to beggars.  
5.  The buses work pretty well, you can buy tickets at any Tabac store.  The subway works but is a bit dirty.
6.  CDG airport is a mess.  Allow a lot of time in summer to get through it.  We almost missed a flight once and were 3 hours ahead of departure.  In July and August, it is a sea of people and no lines you can find, just a mess.  It can take a while to find which carousel has your luggage also.  Ugh, it's a mess, I've never seen a worse airport layout.
7.  If you rent a car, don't rent from Hertz.  They will ding you for tiny dings.  I've stood and waited on the wife several times and seen this play out with Americans.  I rent from Enterprise now and they are fine.  She rented from Hertz for her work, and always had insurance, and often needed it.  They still hassled her about whatever.  And be prepared in Paris for not being able to park anywhere.
8.  Air France runs a bus from CDG into town which I recommend.  It's called "Le Car" oddly enough.  It used to be about 16 euros.  It has 3-4 stops, one of which is near L'Etoile, which is near where we were staying at the time.

The Musee d'Orsay is a really nice art museum in my opinion.  The Louvre is simply too large and everyone flocks to the famous paintings and ignores the rest.  I guess the reason I'm disenchanted with Paris is that I've seen all I want to see there, and more, and prefer seeing somewhere new.  And I hate the airport, but that's about the only way to get there unless you fly to London and take the train, which is rather interesting.

CDG is a mess, aptly named I think.

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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 09, 2018, 07:03:42 AM
1-4 seem to apply in any large-ish European city. It is what it is.




Definitely no shorts, and if you have to wear "gym" shoes (my feet beg for it when walking long distances), get something like the Rockport variety - more to the "dressy" side.




We did not do rental cars. Public transit is the way to do it, in my opinion. We also hired a few drivers - remarkably cheap for remarkable tours. Those guys know where to go and how to get there. One guy was fantastic. Found him at a cab stand in Siena and asked how much for a tour of the area - not IN Siena but around it. The guy took us around the Tuscan hillsides and stopped at various wineries for tours/tastings. By the time we were done, after about 3 hours, he charged us 50 Euro. Dropped us off at the train in Siena so we could get back to Florence. It was fantastic.



Not sure this kind of thing would happen in France though. The Italians like us and they want us there. They love practicing English too, and also love helping us speak Italian. It was pretty cool.
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 09, 2018, 07:33:34 AM
I've seen ads in Paris for a day rental of a driver in a Mercedes for circa 350 Euros.  Never done it.  We usually have a car because we're staying outside Paris but are visiting cousins and whatnot.  I don't recommend a rental car unless you're leaving Paris.

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Post by: utee94 on October 09, 2018, 08:31:12 AM
I love Florence.

Paris is fine, I prefer to get out to the provinces.  Aix en Provence might be my favorite place on Earth.

Except for Tuscany and the Italian Riviera, I love those places too.  

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Post by: MrNubbz on October 09, 2018, 09:21:55 AM
Some advice for visiting Paris (or any European city really):

1.  Try not to look like an obvious American - no white socks, no T-shirt with whatever printed on it, no short pants, no big honking camera around your neck (if possible), no tennis shoes, no ball cap (they call it a casket).  You still will, but will be less obvious.
Wuss proclaim your yanquism,ball cap on backward,over the calf white sox,bermuda shorts,gold necklace,black wingtips or air jordans - your choice,2-3 day beard stubble,flip up sun glasses.I'll be back later for more fashion tips.And what ever you do hitch hike rides where ever you go
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 09, 2018, 10:30:44 AM
Paris sounds like rubbish to me.  No shorts?  Why?  I only wear pants as part of my work costume.  
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Post by: Cincydawg on October 09, 2018, 10:57:19 AM
Paris sounds like rubbish to me.  No shorts?  Why?  I only wear pants as part of my work costume.  
Of course, you can wear whatever you want.  But if you prefer to "blend in" I suggest long pants, slacks, not jeans.
I find it better in Paris to blend in.  Others may choose differently.
They will have those 16 year old gypsy girls coming up to them and asking if they speak English a lot.
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Post by: FearlessF on October 09, 2018, 12:13:27 PM
I have no desire or reason to visit Paris or other cities like it that are unfriendly to me.

I understand the "when in Rome" idea of blending in, but if I'm going to be harassed and in danger of being robbed I will pick another destination to spend my time and money
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 09, 2018, 01:04:18 PM
My wife spent weeks stressing herself about the shoes needed to "fit in" in Europe. They say that women don't wear sneakers. But we knew we were going to be doing a lot of walking, so she needed something. 

Turns out it's really not as big of a deal as they make it out to be. The big thing was that you shouldn't look like you're wearing "workout shoes", but nice sneakers is just fine. We saw local women wearing them all over the place...
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Post by: FearlessF on October 09, 2018, 01:24:49 PM
friggin shoe snobs
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 09, 2018, 01:27:09 PM
I wore these for long walks and they were fine.



https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NB9BNZL/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Post by: Mdot21 on October 09, 2018, 01:50:54 PM
CDG is a mess but it's not that bad imo. I've seen worse airports. Have you ever flown out of Miami? That is probably the worst airport of all-time.

I just take uber now from the airports. Pretty much anywhere. Some cities in Europe like Barcelona don't have uber, but majority of them do I've found. I think the uber to the apartment we rented in Montmartre from CDG was maybe 40-50 euros. In an E class Benz. Not bad.

My advice to anyone going is just take uber from the airport. And once you're in the city the subway is the way to go. You can get anywhere in the city very easily and very cheaply. And as for the beggars and gypsys- yeah, just ignore them, keep walking or be a complete a-hole and scream at them like a maniac and keep it moving. They are looking for stupid tourists to distract and pick pocket. This applies to any major city over there. Oh and when you take the elevator up to the top of the Eiffel Tower they cram you in there like sardines- so you really have to watch your pockets there.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 09, 2018, 02:37:44 PM
I remember my dad making a big deal of pickpockets when I went to the Bahamas at 18.  I wasn't worried, because I had this weird dollar-sized billfold thing that would only fit in my front pockets.  No problem.


Do the 16 year old French girls look like Margot Robbie?  I'd probably just hand over my wallet if they did (she was in that con artist movie with Will Smith).
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MrNubbz on October 09, 2018, 02:42:49 PM
 Oh and when you take the elevator up to the top of the Eiffel Tower they cram you in there like sardines- so you really have to watch your pockets there.
Put a lfe like dido in each pocket and wear a body cam.The expressions alone might make plays of the day
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 09, 2018, 03:51:45 PM
Do the 16 year old French girls look like Margot Robbie?  I'd probably just hand over my wallet if they did (she was in that con artist movie with Will Smith).
I doubt it since Margot was born in Australia
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 09, 2018, 05:05:32 PM
I have no desire or reason to visit Paris or other cities like it that are unfriendly to me.

I understand the "when in Rome" idea of blending in, but if I'm going to be harassed and in danger of being robbed I will pick another destination to spend my time and money
General alertness will keep you from getting robbed, and blending in a bit makes you less obvious as a tourist who is clueless.  The 16 year old girls are Gypsies, literally, the French call them "Rums".  One will come up to you and distract you.  It is very effective if you are not aware of what is happening.  I'd guess it's happened to me 5-6 times.  I just keep walking, but my first trip over it distracted me, and the wife jerked me away and explained, which is what I'm trying to do here.
I think understanding such things makes a visit nicer, and mostly avoids bad things happening.  You aren't in any physical danger, but you can lose a wallet.  Oh yeah, don't buy those things that hang around your neck and let them dangle outside your shirt.
The other cities like Lyon and Strasbourg and Bordeaux are very different in that they have MANY fewer folks trying to rob you so visibly, I can't even remember any.  I'm sure they have some pickpocket types.  Paris is the tourist mecca so it attracts those who prey on tourists, and the police do not care at all about property crime.  That is why every domicile in cities in France have serious security.
Our French friends and cousins who visit were amazed at our house in Cincy which had no fence or wall around it.  They asked me how we could be secure in our house given we had a large green belt behind the house and anyone could sneak up on us.
I just said "Americans tend to have guns." 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 09, 2018, 05:12:45 PM
Didn't see much, if any, of that "distraction stuff" in London or Barcelona to be honest. Very little in Florence but a TON in Rome. I fended off a dude who was trying it with a long umbrella I was carrying. This was the end of our time in Rome and I'd had enough. I wanted to whack the guy. Mrs. pulled me away and we kept going. She was afraid I'd go to jail the day before we were to come home. Heh.



I'll let you all know how Amsterdam is in a few weeks. It will be my first time there, and then we go back to Barcelona for a few days.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 09, 2018, 05:19:32 PM
CDG is a mess but it's not that bad imo. I've seen worse airports. Have you ever flown out of Miami? That is probably the worst airport of all-time.


We just flew in and out of MIA.  I didn't notice any issues with it.
We were not going through customs though.
I've never seen anything remotely like CDG in July and August.  I've been through the larger EU airports and it stands out.
Of course, I hear folks complain about ATL which to me is very logically arranged.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 09, 2018, 05:22:04 PM
Barcelona was "clean", no scam artists that I saw.  I did see some naked gay men on the beach, but they were facing outbound fortunately.

We walked all over Barcelona, did 13.5 miles one day walking.  We plan to go back.

I stupidly had only a one hour and a bit layover in CDG on the return flight from Barcelona.  Don't do that.  We made it, barely, running.  Customs was jammed as usual with 2 booths out of 20 open.  It was as bad as Walmart.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 09, 2018, 05:33:14 PM
Walmart? OK, then never. I'll go through London and use rail. Ain't that far.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: FearlessF on October 09, 2018, 05:35:36 PM
my worst experience in an airport was Mexico City - wasn't THAT terrible

Orlando annoys me because of all the wailing kids
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: utee94 on October 09, 2018, 05:36:11 PM
CDG is only bad when the French workers are on strike.

(Which is just about weekly ;) )

Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 09, 2018, 05:37:18 PM
Walmart? OK, then never. I'll go through London and use rail. Ain't that far.
Well, you deplane tired and smelly and get in a long long line at customs, OK whatever, and then notice they have 40 gates and 3 of them are manned.  Then another "official" shows up and you think you are about to get to go there and he chit chats and looks at his phone and rearranges his desk and stands up and looks out the door and sits down and picks his nose and maybe 5 minutes later he motions you to come up.
If you don't get into the Sky Priority line you are well and truly.
And the plane lands someone near Rouen apparently and then taxis for hours and hours and hours.  They you deplane and get on a bus which takes you to a concourse where you talk for an hour and then get on a moving sidewalk and FINALLY get on a train which takes you somewhere else where you get on a moving sidewalk and then walk down 4 flights of stairs to the luggage carousels only to figure out eventually that your bags are not on 35-41 but 42-49, which is in another building.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: utee94 on October 09, 2018, 05:37:30 PM
I didn't see any shady stuff in Barcelona either.

Definitely saw some shady in Amsterdam.  No need to freak out, just be alert, as you should be anyway.  It's   cool town, I spent a week there one night.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 09, 2018, 05:43:00 PM
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/10/08/654066794/how-a-19th-century-chemist-took-on-the-food-industry-with-a-grisly-experiment
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: GopherRock on October 09, 2018, 07:12:02 PM
I've found the closest thing to a geographic backwater that I've ever flown through was LaGuardia. The north terminals of LAX aren't far behind. 

Then again, I've never flown through CDG. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 09, 2018, 08:12:58 PM
I doubt it since Margot was born in Australia
I know.  Has nothing to do with the question.  I'll get off your lawn now.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: MarqHusker on October 09, 2018, 08:49:55 PM
LaGuardia and JFK are 3rd world airports.   Such an abysmal impression if that's your first experience in NYC.   Newark stinks too.  Logan isn't much better.   Parts of LAX and Miami are horrible too.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 09, 2018, 09:21:28 PM
I like the very end of the int'l terminal in Miami....you go down a half-flight of stairs, and there you are - the Caribbean!
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 10, 2018, 08:06:59 AM
The NYC airports are "dumps" in the sense they are dark and dirty in a relative sense, but their layout is not all that bizarre.  

Anytime you add on multiple times to a thing you end up with a disorganized mess, like hospitals.  Airports are the same.  I think CDG has been enlarged multiple times and the pieces don't fit.  LAX is like that also where you can have to leave security and take a bus and then go back through security for some connections.  I think they are working on a solution (bridge) to fix that.

ATL was built all at once except the new international terminal which was well integrated into the core.

Apparently they are looking at adding more gates at ATL somehow.  It's nice for us that MARTA goes there, no parking for us.  It takes about 30 minutes by rail to get there.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 10, 2018, 08:15:48 AM
And the main problem with CDG is July and August when it is simply jammed with people.  I walked in that day to checkin and just saw this mass of people, no lines anywhere.  The wife grabbed me and took me to the Air France checkin area, which was somewhat less mobbed and went to the first class line and sweet talked her way through.  Then we went to another area that had no lines to get through security and she grabbed me and broke into another quais-line.  Being tall, I was spotted by some airport security person who yelled at me to get in back, but the wife didn't let go and the security person went away.  We got through security after about an hour or so, it seemed longer, looking at our watches, and now had to go through immigration, which was mobbed.  

We arrived over 3 hours ahead of our flight and got to the gate as they were boarding.  Had the wife not known the angles, we would have missed the flight by hours.  I have never seen the like before or after.  It was August I think.  We don't travel there in August or July any more.

And nobody was on strike as I recall.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: utee94 on October 10, 2018, 09:01:49 AM
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And nobody was on strike as I recall.
Ah, lucky you.  You caught them on their one "good day." ;)
Mostly kidding about the French air strikes.  Well, sort of.  I've actually been caught in two of them over the years.  Fortunately it's when I was working, not traveling for pleasure, so delaying my trip by a day or two only meant one or two more days out of the office.
Italian rail strikes, on the other hand-- look out! :)
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: ELA on October 10, 2018, 09:06:18 AM
Week 6 Sim Tourney Bracketology

APPALACHIAN STATE
3OHIO STATE
NOON - espn2
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12MICHIGAN
6WEST VIRGINIA
1:30 - ESPN
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9TEXAS
8PENN STATE
3:00 - ABC
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NORTH TEXAS
2GEORGIA
4:30 - espn2
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FRESNO STATE
4CLEMSON
6:00 - ESPN
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11OKLAHOMA
5NOTRE DAME
7:30 - ABC
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BUFFALO
1ALABAMA
9:00 - espn2
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10CENTRAL FLORIDA
7WASHINGTON
10:30 - ESPN
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 10, 2018, 10:07:43 AM

I stupidly had only a one hour and a bit layover in CDG on the return flight from Barcelona.  Don't do that.  We made it, barely, running.  Customs was jammed as usual with 2 booths out of 20 open.  It was as bad as Walmart.
The customs agents were probably on strike.
Seems in France someone is always on strike lol. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Riffraft on October 10, 2018, 10:36:35 AM
The customs agents were probably on strike.
Seems in France someone is always on strike lol.
Best thing I ever did for international travel is to get a Global entry card, nothing like bypassing the custom lines when returning to the USA, also get TSA pre-check on every domestic flight with it. 
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 10, 2018, 02:08:06 PM
The French don't care about any Global Entry Card.  We got in the Sky Priority lane fortunately.  The workers were not on strike.  

Unlike the US, you have to pass immigration when leaving the Schengen Zone.

Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 11, 2018, 12:53:20 PM
Rather than continuously bump the M-UMd thread for officiating improprieties, I figure this should go here. And though equanimity is always the way to go if you can pull it off, seriously, how is the whole damn football world not losing its mind over this one:

https://twitter.com/mgoblog/status/1050250528075202560

It's probably, um, not good for the game if guys with executive offices can call up and say "No, change it now. That's not the call you're going to make."

Also, how on Earth did this guy make the phone call in time?
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 11, 2018, 01:26:56 PM
Saw that on ESPN too.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 11, 2018, 01:29:08 PM

Unlike the US, you have to pass immigration when leaving the Schengen Zone.


Please explain to me how this works. When we flew from Rome to Brussels, we had to go through intense security at the Brussels airport even though we had already gone through it in Rome. We were only doing a connection in Brussels, to come home.
Title: Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
Post by: Cincydawg on October 11, 2018, 03:19:04 PM
Security, or immigration?

My guess is the latter.  We can only remain in the Schengen Zone for 6 months without a visa.  So, they check coming in, and exiting.  If you over stayed on exit, you get fined.  I doubt you had a security inspection on your transfer.

In the US, we don't inspect folks leaving the country.  The airlines make sure you have passport and visa if needed, but that's it.