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The Power Five => SEC => Topic started by: EastAthens on October 01, 2018, 12:31:20 AM
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I am really surprised the Gators are a 3 point favorite. I have LSU by 7 or so. The ol that wins, wins the game.
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I like LSU winning 6-4, in double overtime.
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LSU should be able to exploit the thin secondary of Florida. I don't see a way for the Gators to "normal offense" down the field enough to win the game.
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I am really surprised the Gators are a 3 point favorite. I have LSU by 7 or so. The ol that wins, wins the game.
LSU is favored by 3....
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LSU by double digits
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LSU by double digits
good to see you @25 4 Heisman (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1757) !!!!!
UF's DLine is legit- but LSU's OLine can hold them... I'd wager a game where both teams have bloody noses, and a fairly low scoring event.. LSU in the end by at least 7.
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Maybe LSU lets them play their goofy Tom Petty sond all the way through this time. Maybe not.
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Well, some still see LSU as "posers", so this should confirm or deny that status. They do have two very solid wins of course.
Florida looks to be an uneven team in terms of abilities here and not there, and LSU looks to be a more complete team of course.
CD(ELA) will need to ponder this game.
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Well, some still see LSU as "posers", so this should confirm or deny that status.
Anyone in the top 5 losing to a team outside of the top 10 would make them “pretenders”, but what would a win over lowly Florida prove that wins over Miami and Auburn didn’t?
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They avoided the upset by Ole Miss. Can't escape the odds forever.
Florida will definitely win this game.
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LSU is favored by 3....
Oops!
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oohgah and bama will beat LSU.... and in my opinion any other loss will be an upset. i'll caveat it by saying i think LSU is fortunate not to draw UK or Mizzou this season. UK is feisty as can possibly be and are rolling on a new found belief in themselves, and mizzou's style of play, not that much different than the newly founded UK's, is a style that LSU's construction would have issue's with imHo.
bama best hope to draw oohgah for the championship, as though they could likely beat up on oohgah some, the style of play from either mizzou or UK has the potential to beat them (if either of those teams were left to their own devices, aka not taken out of 'their game'). - again, just my humble opinion.
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"oohgah" to me is not looking as solid as they did last season.
Maybe I expect too much. I think Justin Fields is about to get quite a bit more playing time in significant situations, especially in the zone of redness.
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I'm thinking UGA stumbled with Mizzou, in part not taking them as serious as they should have, and other parts mizzou being a lot better than suspected/expected. I can't hold that against them. the UT game is a different thing, and one where i'm thinking they played extremely vanilla while maintaining a balanced game- too many times UT was in the precise D they needed to be in, and not because they are so good at reading O's, but because the O was playing extremely vanilla... they were almost like playing against the computer in a video game predictable.
UGA had everything to lose and zero to gain by taking it to UT- injuries or other wear and tear on important commodities, turn overs or statistical degradation which plays into minds of voters, and eye test by those that actually watch... casual observers will think UGA was 'off', but watching closer, it's pretty simple to spot that UGA was playing soft and safe- on purpose and strategically.
that.... and, standing by for fire: UT wasn't the same team that was taken to school by UF last week... they were better prepared and far less confused. of course they 'looked' better when Oogah didn't have the interest in blitzing or with some sort of axe to grind as UF did (seeking to be taken more seriously at that point this season) ..... i'm not thinking the last game was much of a measure of UGA, though the mizzou win MAY be some indication of the team being legitimately flat at times.
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They are just misfiring on opportunities, I think, mishandled passes, poor throws a few times, allowing too much pressure on Fromm, penalties at bad times ...
I didn't see much of this last season. The OL did lose one key player to the NFL and now another to injury, and I'm thinking it just isn't as good as it was. People are saying Swift is not running as well, but I don't see holes for him often.
Last year he saw massive holes, perhaps in part because he came in often later in the game.
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At least this game might be semi-watchable, unlike last year.
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Hopefully it won't come down to a missed XP.
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Hopefully it won't come down to a missed XP.
I don’t think you have to worry about that
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Drew, Missouri plays Alabama a week from Saturday. Bama will win by 30 to 40 points.der Maybe then you will end your Missouri obsession. I believe Kentucky plays A&M this weekend. A&M will wreck Kentucky. I wonder if you will still think Kentucky would beat Alabama?
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@bamajoe (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=29) i'm being sarcastic about any kitty team being capable of beating Bama... c'mon man..
but i do disagree that aTm is going to beat Mizzou.
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Hopefully it won't come down to a missed XP.
I think you have to score a TD to have a chance of a missed XP still.
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He said aTm would wreck UK, which is possible I think.
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I think you have to score a TD to have a chance of a missed XP still.
This isn't last year's offense, sorry.
Franks' TD:Int ratio
2017 - 9:8
2018 - 12:3
Someone seems pretty pissy they have to travel to Gville in consecutive years. Tough shit.
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Possible outcomes:
LSU wins decisively - LSU really looks good now in the polls and a threat to Bama, Florida looks more like a team with many issues.
Florida wins decisively - LSU looks like a poser and Florida becomes a significant threat to UGA in the East along with UK (if they win).
Close game either way - Not much change in perception, though the second conference loss obviously hurts UF's shot at the East.
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LSU could blast Florida 56-3 and it wouldn't mean anything about threatening Alabama.
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I think it would, in the sense it would reduce whatever the line might end up being from say 10 points to perhaps 7 points.
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If I'm not mistaken, the line moves to make the $ move where the bookies want it. There's what the nerds in the desert actually think will happen, and then there's the line they set to make sure the house always wins. If LSU beats Florida handily but loses to UGA and/or MSU--neither unthinkable--I don't think the Florida game will matter come time for Alabama.
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I think Aranda has gotten to the point where he's just gonna stick Greedy on Team X's #1 WR wherever he lines up, and I guess that means Jefferson or Swain. The OL hasn't been superb and Franks counts on those guys to bail him out some and occasionally has happy feet, so he may throw up some hero balls. Need to capitalize on that and turn it into points if so.
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Someone seems pretty pissy they have to travel to Gville in consecutive years. Tough shit.
Can't imagine why. Gator tears are so much better served locally.
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I think Aranda has gotten to the point where he's just gonna stick Greedy on Team X's #1 WR wherever he lines up, and I guess that means Jefferson or Swain.
That shouldn't hinder UF's offense too much, as it doesn't rely on any one WR very much.
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If I'm not mistaken, the line moves to make the $ move where the bookies want it. There's what the nerds in the desert actually think will happen, and then there's the line they set to make sure the house always wins. If LSU beats Florida handily but loses to UGA and/or MSU--neither unthinkable--I don't think the Florida game will matter come time for Alabama.
Yeah, with the Vig, it's a sure thing every week on nearly every game for the House. They just need to balance the bets. The line is adjusted to whatever gets the balanced betting in nearly every case. Why bet when you have a sure thing?
So, if betting comes in heavy on UF, the line shifts a bit to compensate.
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wonder if the house will become more impacting on coaches and programs in the future, now with gambling legalized for college sports in many (and more coming) states?
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Welp, that was fun!
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Nice win for Florida to keep them in the hunt if they can beat UGA and win out of course. Unless UK wins out of course.
UK looks to be "for real" now, even with that road loss.
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LSU by double digits
~:P
Thanks, Nostradamus
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Anyone in the top 5 losing to a team outside of the top 10 would make them “pretenders”, but what would a win over lowly Florida prove that wins over Miami and Auburn didn’t?
It's good to acknowledge LSU as pretenders, before the fact. That's big of you.
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I'm not surprised that Florida won the game as I believe they were two equally balanced teams and Florida was playing at home. I do want to admit that I underestimated Florida earlier this year. They are a good team despite my earlier criticism. They along with Kentucky are the most surprising teams in the league.
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Florida is decent while the offense is still acting like it’s thriwing left-handed for the first time.
Yes, Florida beats UK with Reese and Jefferson playing, but that’s long gone now. Florida loses this game last year, because after LSU took the lead in the 2nd half, the 2017 Gators would have no answer.
So in 2018, if our offense was a bike, we still have a broken pedal, but at least the whole chain hasn’t fallen off anymore.
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I don't ever enjoy a loss, but I can handle losses like this one a lot better than ones where refs screw us on a call at a critical time or LSU shoots itself in the foot repeatedly. Plenty of things to adjust in retrospect, but LSU got flat whipped on the lines in this game, and it's tough to win a game like that. Amazing it was as close as it was and that LSU still had a chance to pull it out in the end after the carnage at the LOS all day. Don't know that I'll feel the same way after the whole season is said and done, but Florida was just better than LSU on Saturday.
6th different starting OL combination of the season due to injuries finally caught up with us. Unlike the Miami game, the skill players weren't able to overcome it. They are starting to get a little healthier though, and hopefully settle into a groove. We may see the same starting 5 against UGA, that'd be a novel idea for this season. LT Charles was finally back from injury, and you have to wonder if he's all there yet. Florida's DE Polite beat him like a red-headed stepchild all day. I've seen way better lateral movement from him, don't know if he's not 100% or he needs coaching up, but moving his feet the way he was won't get it done the rest of the way. Deculus at RT didn't fare much better, but I'm not convinced that he's anymore than a "nice SEC tackle" as far as talent goes. Line really felt Brumfeld's absence in the middle. D-line....I don't know what to say. They're decent at eating blocks against the run, but they have zero pass rush skills. Well, Lawrence kinda does, and he duly does his job by drawing double teams every play, but everybody else is not as good as their physical traits and practice reviews make them seem like they should be. They reeeeeeally missed Phillips in the run game (the other MLB not named Devin White)...he appeared injured at the end of the Ole Miss game and we didn't hear anymore about it during the week. He traveled to UF, I know, because he was dressed out on the sideline, but he never entered the game. His backup, Micah Baskerville, was out of position a LOT on Florida's run plays. Mullen's motion and tricks to get LBs off their keys worked on him just about every play. Even when Florida got stopped on a run between tackles for little gain, either White or one of the safeties was covering for him. That young guy just got a clinic in sticking to your keys and ignoring the smoke and mirrors. He's gonna want to burn the film, but hopefully it's experience not lost on him for the future. All the young guys on D need to tackle better.
If there's one thing I'd want to blame the staff for and say LSU shoulda/coulda/woulda instead of just giving Florida credit, it's wondering why LSU's offense looked completely surprised that a Todd Grantham defense is a pressure-happy blitz-fest. Even if you're completely unfamiliar with him, that shouldn't last past the 1st quarter. But in the second half Ensminger was still calling plays as if Florida wasn't bringing extra pressure in constantly. It's not like LSU doesn't have plays to mitigate that sort of thing. We saw some of them, successes at that. It's like he was up in the box thinking "Wow, they brought pressure AGAIN. I totally didn't think about that."
Ah well, on to UGA.
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Somebody is feeling chippy, lol.
Beating LSU is a rarity this decade, I suppose, so I can't hold it against you for reveling.
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That's 2 out of 3, if I'm reveling, it's because your bro-chacho was being a dick before the game. Now? Put an APB out for him. He's a ghost.
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I literally laughed out loud at the thought of you complaining about somebody being a dick.
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How have I been a dick?
25 4 Heisman was bitchy from the start. I always seem to get the blame.
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Yeah, it's totally him. Nobody's ever complained about you being a dick or anything.
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I know that "I don't know if it's true, but people are saying..." schtick.....I hope you're not like him.