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Title: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: MarqHusker on September 11, 2018, 01:27:06 PM
Not that Stupid Upset Picks should be this board's top concern, but be mindful that Hurricane Florence is going to alter some of this weekend's Saturday's slate.

I see Wake v BC will now kick at 4:30 pm Thursday.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: MarqHusker on September 11, 2018, 01:33:15 PM
WVU v NCST cancelled.
UCF at UNC cancelled (teams looking for alt dates)
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: mcwterps1 on September 11, 2018, 01:42:05 PM
Here in Columbia, a lot of evacuees are inbound.

USC game is in doubt.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: ELA on September 11, 2018, 01:45:34 PM
WVU v NCST cancelled.
UCF at UNC cancelled (teams looking for alt dates)
WVU offered Morgantown, I don't blame NC State for not taking that one.  I think a neutral site game would be too hard to work out at this point.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: ELA on September 11, 2018, 01:46:46 PM
Not that Stupid Upset Picks should be this board's top concern, but be mindful that Hurricane Florence is going to alter some of this weekend's Saturday's slate.

I see Wake v BC will now kick at 4:30 pm Thursday.
That was the lone Thursday night game this week I believe.  Wonder if it will still be on ESPN, or if they won't bother.  It might be a pain to rush to break the broadcast down afterwards and get out before the storm.
That's a shame, I was really looking forward to that one, two teams I had on the rise in my preseason rankings.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: ELA on September 11, 2018, 02:04:15 PM
That was the lone Thursday night game this week I believe.  Wonder if it will still be on ESPN, or if they won't bother.  It might be a pain to rush to break the broadcast down afterwards and get out before the storm.
That's a shame, I was really looking forward to that one, two teams I had on the rise in my preseason rankings.
ESPN still televising
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 11, 2018, 02:07:18 PM
Disappointing that Doeren wouldn't bring his boys up to Morgantown for the game.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 11, 2018, 05:39:10 PM
 I know a couple of you are in the path of this thing, and I know for certain Drew is in a direct path. He's getting out of there and won't be live here for a while. Going to his place in the UP. He will be safe there.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 11, 2018, 07:12:52 PM
Climate change is a hoax, guys.  These cancellations due to radical weather increasing in recent years is just a blip.  I swear.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 11, 2018, 09:51:01 PM
Great point. 

Not having hurricanes would have been the best part about living on the Earth before the climate started changing. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 11, 2018, 09:54:08 PM
Sounds like something a _____ voter would say.  
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: MarqHusker on September 11, 2018, 09:56:27 PM
If there were only such data to show us Hurricanes making landfall in the Atlantic/Gulf so we can once and for all see the huge spike of relentless Hurricanes over the past several years compared to the times when we rarely saw Hurricanes.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 11, 2018, 10:00:43 PM
Maybe change from an elephant to an ostrich?  Head in the sand and all.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: FearlessF on September 11, 2018, 10:23:20 PM
an ostrich invented paper?
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 11, 2018, 10:29:32 PM

I gotta hand it too you Fro. You never pass up an opportunity to whip out the mangina. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 12, 2018, 01:01:25 AM
Yes, the use of one's brain always comes at the expense of one's manhood.  Very good.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 12, 2018, 01:09:55 AM
Submitting fully to an ideology that other people came up with is the exact opposite of using one's brain. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: MarqHusker on September 12, 2018, 01:44:17 AM
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/E23.html

draw your own conclusions.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Kris60 on September 12, 2018, 06:34:49 AM
WVU offered Morgantown, I don't blame NC State for not taking that one.  I think a neutral site game would be too hard to work out at this point.
They didn’t.  There was some bogus report out of a tv station in Huntington that looked like it was written by a 6th grader that came out yesterday with off the wall claims like WVU offered NC St the entire gate to come to Morgantown and that WVU tried to move a road date with Iowa St to squeeze NC St in later in the year.  It was all crap.
AD Shane Lyons said in his press conference that moving the game to Morgantown wasn’t logistically feasible given the short amount of time to do it.  It’s like some people think planning a major college football game is like planning a neighborhood barbecue.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: NorthernOhioBuckeye on September 12, 2018, 07:21:47 AM
Climate change is a hoax, guys.  These cancellations due to radical weather increasing in recent years is just a blip.  I swear.
Yep, it's not like the climate has always been in a constant state of change or anything. Kind of like the mile thick ice sheet that covered the very spot in which I am now sitting some 10,000 years ago. I'm sure that having 80 degree temps every summer was still the norm then also. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 12, 2018, 07:24:39 AM
Climate change is a hoax, guys.  These cancellations due to radical weather increasing in recent years is just a blip.  I swear.
Let's not do this. 
I am glad the earth has warmed. These Great Lakes here provide a lot of liquid H2O. The frozen stuff that made them would be hard to swim, drink and boat on. Luckily I'll be dead when the next ice age hits.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 12, 2018, 07:25:41 AM
It’s like some people think planning a major college football game is like planning a neighborhood barbecue.
Yeah no kidding. I don't think people realize just how hard planning to BBQ really is.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 12, 2018, 07:26:25 AM
Yep, it's not like the climate has always been in a constant state of change or anything. Kind of like the mile thick ice sheet that covered the very spot in which I am now sitting some 10,000 years ago. I'm sure that having 80 degree temps every summer was still the norm then also.
Heh.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: bayareabadger on September 12, 2018, 08:50:58 AM
Submitting fully to an ideology that other people came up with is the exact opposite of using one's brain.
Ignoring the main frowned-upon-here thrust of this point, this seems like a bit illogical.
It implies using our brain is most highly is achieved by questioning everything. Wouldn't trusting expertise also be a good use of our brains? Like I submit to the fact that something Badge tells me about his field of engineering is very likely correct. We wouldn't argue me being skeptical of him on engineering topics is using my brain. 
Now I suppose we pick and chose. If Badge was being paid handsomely by a company being sued over a building falling down, and he came out and said the company didn't do anything wrong, I'm in a weird spot. I trust his expertise, but understand he has powerful motivations to do a certain thing. (To be clear, I believe Badge is very scrupulous and almost assuredly would not do such a thing)
Just a thought. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: FearlessF on September 12, 2018, 09:06:38 AM
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/E23.html

draw your own conclusions.
Oh, he will
he's using his brain to draw
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 12, 2018, 10:00:39 AM
Ignoring the main frowned-upon-here thrust of this point, this seems like a bit illogical.
It implies using our brain is most highly is achieved by questioning everything. Wouldn't trusting expertise also be a good use of our brains? Like I submit to the fact that something Badge tells me about his field of engineering is very likely correct. We wouldn't argue me being skeptical of him on engineering topics is using my brain.
Now I suppose we pick and chose. If Badge was being paid handsomely by a company being sued over a building falling down, and he came out and said the company didn't do anything wrong, I'm in a weird spot. I trust his expertise, but understand he has powerful motivations to do a certain thing. (To be clear, I believe Badge is very scrupulous and almost assuredly would not do such a thing)
Just a thought.
I see what you are getting at. But you ignore the possibility that badge could be some sorta secret evil mad scientist who puts up a front of being a generally a good and decent fellow in order to gain your trust, and then use you as a pawn in his various dastardly schemes. In that case you'd be a fool to just blindly trust everything he tells you regarding engineering as though it were gospel. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 12, 2018, 10:05:50 AM
You didn't bow down to Mario's expertise about Michigan football, and just take him at his word that every first and second down was a run up the middle. Instead you dug beneath the surface for the actual data, and exposed the fact that he was speaking directly out of his posterior.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 12, 2018, 11:10:24 AM
I see what you are getting at. But you ignore the possibility that badge could be some sorta secret evil mad scientist who puts up a front of being a generally a good and decent fellow in order to gain your trust, and then use you as a pawn in his various dastardly schemes. In that case you'd be a fool to just blindly trust everything he tells you regarding engineering as though it were gospel.
Nah. It's pretty hard to argue math and physics. Most of that is "gospel" and/or proven. My philosophy on certain things are mine, although there are many who share them. For example, If you don't want a house that would be suspect to flood damage, don't build in a spot that relies on man-made "protections". Those "protections" always end up losing out to Mother Nature. Always.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: FearlessF on September 12, 2018, 11:11:20 AM
well, you have experience as a bucknut

Michigan fans are not to be trusted
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: MrNubbz on September 12, 2018, 12:37:27 PM
I am glad the earth has warmed. These Great Lakes here provide a lot of liquid H2O. The frozen stuff that made them would be hard to swim, drink and boat on. Luckily I'll be dead when the next ice age hits.
Well you can fish on the frozen stuff,now catching fish in the frozen stuff is another story.You want an Ice Age I can send my ex-sister-in-law your way.She's been known to cool things down quite a bit
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: FearlessF on September 12, 2018, 12:41:55 PM
catching fish on the frozen stuff is just as likely as on open water

IMO

and ya don't need a cooler to keep the beer cold
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 12, 2018, 03:34:13 PM
It would take one hell of an auger to get through a mile of ice.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: FearlessF on September 12, 2018, 03:40:31 PM
We have The Channel Tunnel

known as the Chunnel
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 12, 2018, 10:39:33 PM
Yep, it's not like the climate has always been in a constant state of change or anything. Kind of like the mile thick ice sheet that covered the very spot in which I am now sitting some 10,000 years ago. I'm sure that having 80 degree temps every summer was still the norm then also.
This isn't an opposing view.  It doesn't negate the current truth.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: utee94 on September 12, 2018, 11:10:13 PM
WTF is a "neighborhood BBQ?"  How do you fit an entire neighborhood inside your smoker?

Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: FearlessF on September 12, 2018, 11:13:07 PM
no, but hopefully, your smoker can feed the entire neighborhood
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 12, 2018, 11:17:35 PM
WTF is a "neighborhood BBQ?"  How do you fit an entire neighborhood inside your smoker?


Easy. 
1. Buy a bigger smoker.
2. Move to a smaller neighborhood. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: FearlessF on September 12, 2018, 11:21:36 PM
I'm moving to his neighborhood soon

he needs a bigger smoker
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: MrNubbz on September 12, 2018, 11:26:00 PM
It would take one hell of an auger to get through a mile of ice.
After a batch of Sharkwater FF could prolly whiz a pretty big hole in it.Of course the fish would prolly leave.The hell with it I didn't want to take you guys Ice Fishing anyway
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 12, 2018, 11:29:53 PM
cool

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dm6O1FsW0AM0myL?format=jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dm5c77VXcAAx-KU?format=jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dm5cdhLX4AAN07G?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: utee94 on September 12, 2018, 11:30:57 PM
I'm moving to his neighborhood soon

he needs a bigger smoker
You're talking about badge and not me, right????
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 12, 2018, 11:35:45 PM
I'm moving to his neighborhood soon

he needs a bigger smoker
Oh come on now. 
You can't possibly be THAT big. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: MrNubbz on September 12, 2018, 11:42:29 PM
WTF is a "neighborhood BBQ?"  How do you fit an entire neighborhood inside your smoker?


Maybe it's an opium den
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: FearlessF on September 12, 2018, 11:42:51 PM
I didn't want to take you guys Ice Fishing anyway
now that's some BS
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: FearlessF on September 12, 2018, 11:43:56 PM
You're talking about badge and not me, right????

depends were Badge lands.
I could always go to the Keys after a few years in Austin
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Hawkinole on September 12, 2018, 11:59:07 PM
cool

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dm6O1FsW0AM0myL?format=jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dm5c77VXcAAx-KU?format=jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dm5cdhLX4AAN07G?format=jpg)

Today the folks on Jupiter are looking down on earth with their version of our Hubbell telescope, and discussing amongst themselves the "Great White Spot" on earth, and speculating, "What in Jupiter is that white spot?" Then in a few days it disappears. They are saying "It can't be a storm, they last thousands of years and are red."
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Hawkinole on September 13, 2018, 12:13:28 AM
I found it interesting the base camp commander of Camp Lejeune, North Carolina which is on the coast between Wilmington, NC and Moorehead City, NC decided to not evacuate troops. He may be right that the buildings are sturdy enough. I suppose if a big old live oak falls on a residence then he may be wrong. He ought to have the flood maps, and be able to rationally determine if people are in harms way. Interesting decision.

If he is wrong he would likely be court martialed, wouldn't he?
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 13, 2018, 06:42:16 AM
Did he make that decision on his own?
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: bayareabadger on September 13, 2018, 07:44:49 AM
Did he make that decision on his own?
In social media, he’s claiming all the credit, which I suppose is his job, but might not be great if he has to explain later. 
I wonder if those soldiers will be part of doing something to help? 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: TyphonInc on September 13, 2018, 08:04:10 AM
Climate change is a hoax, guys.  These cancellations due to radical weather increasing in recent years is just a blip.  I swear.
"there is a small nominally positive upward trend in tropical storm occurrence from 1878-2006. But statistical tests reveal that this trend is so small, relative to the variability in the series, that it is not significantly distinguishable from zero (Figure 2). Thus the historical tropical storm count record does not provide compelling evidence for a greenhouse warming induced long-term increase."

(https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/wp-content/uploads/files/user_files/gav/historical_storms/vk09_fig9.png)

I'm not gonna claim increased green house gases hasn't caused an increase in temperature, nor will I claim that weather has more variability than previously seen. We have data that backs that up.

What I am gonna claim is that we live in a generation where everything has to the best or the worst in order to get people to click on it. And that makes it a lot harder to find the actual truth.

What I think the research shows is that ~1960-2000 America actually had substantially less hurricane strikes than has been recorded over the last 140 years. And as the article suggests the amount of hurricanes we have is a return to normalization. Couple that with our pandering media and this is the end of the world type catastrophe.

EDIT: Source - https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/historical-atlantic-hurricane-and-tropical-storm-records/
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: MrNubbz on September 13, 2018, 08:19:15 AM
depends were Badge lands.
I could always go to the Keys after a few years in Austin
Now that's some BS.Hey when the the Great Lakes freezes over you can join us in our Ice Shanty 4-5 miles off shore.It's a real treat when an Alberta Clipper comes thru and you can hear the ice groaning and cracking underneath you.Bring the Sharkwater
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: MrNubbz on September 13, 2018, 08:26:07 AM
"there is a small nominally positive upward trend in tropical storm occurrence from 1878-2006. But statistical tests reveal that this trend is so small, relative to the variability in the series, that it is not significantly distinguishable from zero (Figure 2). Thus the historical tropical storm count record does not provide compelling evidence for a greenhouse warming induced long-term increase."
I saw a segment news peeps were on some barrier islands off the Carolina Coast.The locals had some gauge there marking the water levels left from different Hurricanes.There was a storm from 1956 I believe that left a lot more water than anything in the last 20-30 years.There's more damage now because there is literally 5X as many folks residing there as back in the day
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 13, 2018, 09:25:53 AM
In social media, he’s claiming all the credit, which I suppose is his job, but might not be great if he has to explain later.
I wonder if those soldiers will be part of doing something to help?
Marines, and I'm sure they will.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: FearlessF on September 13, 2018, 10:49:03 AM
Now that's some BS.Hey when the the Great Lakes freezes over you can join us in our Ice Shanty 4-5 miles off shore.It's a real treat when an Alberta Clipper comes thru and you can hear the ice groaning and cracking underneath you.Bring the Sharkwater
I'm no mooch
I will bring refreshments and party favors!
I'm familiar with the noises made by large ice.  I bit eerie, but nothing I can't sleep through.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: NorthernOhioBuckeye on September 13, 2018, 12:42:18 PM
This isn't an opposing view.  It doesn't negate the current truth.
Until scientists can explain why climate change is occurring now differently than it has occurred since a climate existed, I am skeptical. I doubt that the ice age ended due to cave men driving SUV's.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Entropy on September 13, 2018, 12:56:30 PM
I saw a segment news peeps were on some barrier islands off the Carolina Coast.The locals had some gauge there marking the water levels left from different Hurricanes.There was a storm from 1956 I believe that left a lot more water than anything in the last 20-30 years.There's more damage now because there is literally 5X as many folks residing there as back in the day
this...   improvements in technology and gov't assistance to rebuild have drastically changed how people view living along the coast compared to 100 yrs ago. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: MrNubbz on September 13, 2018, 01:30:20 PM
I doubt that the ice age ended due to cave men driving SUV's.
Chevy Trucks - like a Rock
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: FearlessF on September 13, 2018, 02:51:49 PM
God bless Bob Seger
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: utee94 on September 13, 2018, 05:34:37 PM
Until scientists can explain why climate change is occurring now differently than it has occurred since a climate existed, I am skeptical. I doubt that the ice age ended due to cave men driving SUV's.
Interesting.

Counterpoint: 

(https://thumb.ibb.co/cptUzp/cavemen.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cptUzp)

Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 13, 2018, 05:55:48 PM
Until scientists can explain why climate change is occurring now differently than it has occurred since a climate existed, I am skeptical. I doubt that the ice age ended due to cave men driving SUV's.
Not to mention that the Earth spent millions of years as a ball of molten lava before spending millions of years as a gigantic ice cube; all before there was any life at all, let alone humans. 
Or the variations regarding the Sun itself. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 13, 2018, 06:48:42 PM
Maybe look at Lejeune construction before questioning a Marine General's decision which is HELLA informed by..... Me.  :-)  

Now me? I'm not built like that (my house)... I'm sitting in a holler in Tennessee texting buddies who are braving the storm.  

If anyone is interested, I can share a link for the models the gov uses.  

Theyre expecting 30 inches of rain in the area.  Theyre already seeing 100mph gusts, and the storm is still 8 to 10 hours out.  The eye will make landfall right over my house... Lucky me... But, it is the price we pay to live where we live and anyone who bitches about it is a goon.  
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 13, 2018, 07:06:07 PM
https://cera.coastalrisk.live
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: MrNubbz on September 13, 2018, 07:22:23 PM
Interesting.

Counterpoint:

(https://thumb.ibb.co/cptUzp/cavemen.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cptUzp)


Well played 94
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: MrNubbz on September 13, 2018, 07:23:41 PM
Not to mention that the Earth spent millions of years as a ball of molten lava before spending millions of years as a gigantic ice cube; all before there was any life at all, let alone humans.
She sounds hideous
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: MrNubbz on September 13, 2018, 07:37:59 PM
Theyre expecting 30 inches of rain in the area.  Theyre already seeing 100mph gusts, and the storm is still 8 to 10 hours out.  The eye will make landfall right over my house... Lucky me... But, it is the price we pay to live where we live and anyone who bitches about it is a goon.  
Run Drew Run!My sister and 3 of her friends rented a beach front House in NC on some island last friday.They left late Monday morning.Booked the trip last January - hope they can retrieve some of the expenses
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 13, 2018, 07:41:33 PM
They usually sell policies with rentals like that, for like $10 up charge. If she didnt refuse it, then shes good.  

My kid graduates boot camp this week, and the wife is going... She wouldnt have been able to fly out of anywhere down east, so I conned her to fly out of east Tennessee which she will Sunday... Ill head back in Sunday and try to catch the window between fresh water runoff and the rivers backing up.  It usually lasts two or three days... As that window closes is when the real fun starts. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: MrNubbz on September 13, 2018, 08:14:51 PM
Regardless of what branch of the service is your son in - good on him.You do live in N.Car. presently correct?
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 13, 2018, 08:25:35 PM
Its actually my step daughter... National guard.  Her choice and you could have floored me... She said (after being accepted in a really expensive college) "I want to pay for it myself"... Makes me think we did something right. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 13, 2018, 08:36:55 PM
Oh... Yes .Coast of nc just a touch north of camp Lejeune. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 13, 2018, 09:13:34 PM
She sounds hideous
(https://i.imgur.com/vlzXHlv.gif)
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: MrNubbz on September 13, 2018, 09:29:07 PM
Its actually my step daughter... National guard.  Her choice and you could have floored me... She said (after being accepted in a really expensive college) "I want to pay for it myself"... Makes me think we did something right.
Well my mistake don't tell her I don't feel like having my crusty old self being woodshedded by a girl.Oh and you're on the NC coast well - Run Drew Run
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 13, 2018, 09:33:42 PM
depends were Badge lands.
I could always go to the Keys after a few years in Austin
That'd be like Jerry Jeff Walker, but in reverse.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 13, 2018, 09:37:24 PM
Until scientists can explain why climate change is occurring now differently than it has occurred since a climate existed, I am skeptical. I doubt that the ice age ended due to cave men driving SUV's.
The phrases you use make it seem like you're not at all wanting to be informed of the reality of this.  You're ignoring the 97%+ of climate scientists because you want to.  That's all you have to say.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 13, 2018, 09:37:47 PM
my neighbor just texted the transformers blew sending quite the light show into the dark, and the winds are now sustaining in the low nineties.  

glad i ain't there, but not real happy i gotta go back Sunday.  Wife thinks she's gonna fly in next Sunday, and she'd be wrong.  the airports will be closed except for emergency traffic, and because of the federal dollars to be had.  what a world we live in... 

oh.. a guy i work with just texted and said water is from the ocean to the sound across the eastern section of emerald isle- which is a  barrier island and southern most outer bank.. it runs dead east and west with ocean facing south.  i don't think anyone expected that.  it's a little rougher out there right now than they anticipated this early in the event.  storm center is still a good ways out.  that eye wall is gonna be nasty. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 13, 2018, 09:38:46 PM
I was in the eye of a hurricane when I was a kid in FL.  I lived well inland, so it was probably just a tropic storm by then, but it was super-weird.  About 30 min of clear, blue sky - I went out side and played for a bit.

Then the other half hits hardcore.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 13, 2018, 09:43:59 PM
i stood in Atlantic Beach on the other side of the island the town of emerald isle is in, and did same @OrangeAfroMan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=58) , beer in hand and giggling... somewhere in the mid nineties... i had a picture of the eye wall all around us- absolutely gorgeous skies and seemingly nothing wrong- except literally all around us on the horizon was bruised and nasty.  surreal experience.... and before i had people i was responsible for.  if not for that i'd be like lieutenant dan from forrest gump right now- shaking my fist and screaming "is this all you got?"... but age and you know, maturity, kinda changes that.  
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: FearlessF on September 13, 2018, 09:46:22 PM
stay safe kids, us dirt farmers from the upper midwest plains have no idear
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 13, 2018, 09:55:16 PM

The phrases you use make it seem like you're not at all wanting to be informed of the reality of this.  You're ignoring the 97%+ of climate scientists because you want to.  That's all you have to say.
Jesus dude, take it to the Ms Nbc board. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 13, 2018, 09:56:32 PM
check these idiots out... north topsail beach- just south of MCB Camp Lejeune- and this was earlier this afternoon long before the storm... gotta love it.  i hope they made it off that island.  

https://www.facebook.com/chris.a.brinkley/posts/10213872709344551
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: TyphonInc on September 14, 2018, 08:26:21 AM
The calls for rescue are coming in. 150+ people have now realized they made a mistake by staying.
The one I'm most annoyed with is a single mom of a 0,3, 8 kids chose to stay cause she didn't have enough money to leave.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 14, 2018, 09:05:54 AM
She doesn't sound like the best decision-maker on the planet.


Glad you're safe Drew. Best of luck on the return. Hopefully that kitchen is still there.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Entropy on September 14, 2018, 10:59:53 AM
The calls for rescue are coming in. 150+ people have now realized they made a mistake by staying.
The one I'm most annoyed with is a single mom of a 0,3, 8 kids chose to stay cause she didn't have enough money to leave.
Everyone has a story on why they stayed.  My issue is this will become the governments problem to solve... either now, during the storm or after.  People will be critical of the response because others chose to stay despite the warnings.   IMO, it's not on the gov't.  It's on the individual.   AT SOME POINT, personal accountability counts.  
that doesn't mean I want to see young kids die... but culturally, we do expect others to solve problems because we failed to act... 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: bayareabadger on September 14, 2018, 11:47:27 AM
The calls for rescue are coming in. 150+ people have now realized they made a mistake by staying.
The one I'm most annoyed with is a single mom of a 0,3, 8 kids chose to stay cause she didn't have enough money to leave.
That situation sounds heartbreaking. Like I get that its easy to blame her, but imagine being in a position where you either felt you didn't have enough money to leave or in fact didn't have enough money to leave. 

That seems like a thing that could happen, and it would just be awful. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: ELA on September 14, 2018, 11:50:50 AM
Yeah, I'm a little confused.  The people who could, and don't, I have no sympathy for.  She's someone I have all the sympathy in the world for.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 14, 2018, 11:51:14 AM
That situation sounds heartbreaking. Like I get that its easy to blame her, but imagine being in a position where you either felt you didn't have enough money to leave or in fact didn't have enough money to leave.

That seems like a thing that could happen, and it would just be awful.
Most of the time things like this don't just happen. It's brought on by a series of poor choices and decisions. I hate those "shit happens" bumper stickers.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 14, 2018, 11:52:24 AM
Yeah, I'm a little confused.  The people who could, and don't, I have no sympathy for.  She's someone I have all the sympathy in the world for.
Me too, possibly. Depends on the back story of how she got herself in the position she is in. Now the kids? I absolutely feel horrible for them. They had no choice in anything.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Entropy on September 14, 2018, 11:59:27 AM
That situation sounds heartbreaking. Like I get that its easy to blame her, but imagine being in a position where you either felt you didn't have enough money to leave or in fact didn't have enough money to leave.

That seems like a thing that could happen, and it would just be awful.
I just have a hard time imagining help wouldn't be available.   Call the news and when that story is run, you'd have the help.  Maybe she did and I'm being ignorant.  But I also believe we have a culture of differing responsibility.  


I do feel for her kids.  That has to be scary for them.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 14, 2018, 12:00:59 PM
there is a middle ground in this sentiment... 

first off, complacency is a bitch.  every person to a man i spoke with talked of bertha, fran, matthew, floyd, ophelia, ect... it's what they have to compare conditions to, and they 'weren't worried'.  those old enough to recall hazel packed up and left.  hazel is the benchmark.  it was nearing 70 years ago.  

this is just the way people think...  akin to young crowds ushering socialism- they've zero idea what they're asking for as they ignore the practice's outcome and just stare at the theory.  academic types do this too much and have too much impact of decisions made, in my opinion... theory and practice are far despair.  akin to people wanting war or armed conflict- 99.9% of them have never seen combat or anything approximating it- and those that have that want it are lunatics.  

"history is doomed to repeat itself as the NATURE OF MAN DOESN'T CHANGE"... most important take-away in caps... 

people in this storm really WANTED the storm to not be that big a deal- and selectively listened to those downplaying it comparing it unfairly to lessor examples.  they should have listened to those familiar with Hazel. they scoffed at those urging caution selectively, as they just didn't want to weigh that in their decisions.  

people ought maybe have compassion for those who made bad decisions, and understand it could have been them in a similar situation...  
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 14, 2018, 12:08:49 PM
part of my job is emergency management, training and exercises.  i'm decently familiar with these things. 

the only reason i left was because my wife wouldn't be able to fly out of there- otherwise, i'd be sitting tight.   understand i have provisions and supplies- generators (propane not gas), and everything required to be okay.  if it was just me, there i'd be.  my wife and kid changes that hugely.  

a reason why:  last night when winds were gusting over 115 and sustained over 90, rain falling in literal sheets, a uhaul comes driving down the road.... why?  guess... they stopped in front of my house and as soon as they did my neighbor and his neighbor, both friends, painted him with laser sights- as soon as he was painted he hauled some ass out of there with a quickness, his truck swaying this way and that... bastard.  they're good people and defused the situation... i'd have waited for him to get out and start looting... it would have ended differently for him.  

it's reasons like this i want to be there, and will be as soon as i can.  
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: bayareabadger on September 14, 2018, 12:09:50 PM
Most of the time things like this don't just happen. It's brought on by a series of poor choices and decisions. I hate those "shit happens" bumper stickers.
I agree with this too some degree. I think your understating how fast someone can fall into a hole and how hard it can be to dig out of it. Like if a steady job disappears and a family member suddenly gets sick, things can go sideways if you're living on the edge like a lot of folks. I'm sure some bad choices factor in, but I think it can go well beyond that. 
There's a good book about Milwaukee that takes you inside some lives and you see how pricy it is to not have much money. The cycle can really suck people in, especially ones with kids. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: bayareabadger on September 14, 2018, 12:13:14 PM

people in this storm really WANTED the storm to not be that big a deal- and selectively listened to those downplaying it comparing it unfairly to lessor examples.  they should have listened to those familiar with Hazel. they scoffed at those urging caution selectively, as they just didn't want to weigh that in their decisions.  

This is one of the most insightful things I've seen on the board (and it goes beyond storms).
 
In a lot of cases, we WANT something to be, and we make it so. Earlier we were arguing climate change, who to believe, et al. And I can away thinking, people on both sides really WANT to believe one or the other, likely for reasons that aren't all that clear. Fans everywhere WANT to believe their team's issues can be solved by either benching someone or scheme changes. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Entropy on September 14, 2018, 12:23:13 PM
part of my job is emergency management, training and exercises.  i'm decently familiar with these things.

the only reason i left was because my wife wouldn't be able to fly out of there- otherwise, i'd be sitting tight.   understand i have provisions and supplies- generators (propane not gas), and everything required to be okay.  if it was just me, there i'd be.  my wife and kid changes that hugely.  

a reason why:  last night when winds were gusting over 115 and sustained over 90, rain falling in literal sheets, a uhaul comes driving down the road.... why?  guess... they stopped in front of my house and as soon as they did my neighbor and his neighbor, both friends, painted him with laser sights- as soon as he was painted he hauled some ass out of there with a quickness, his truck swaying this way and that... bastard.  they're good people and defused the situation... i'd have waited for him to get out and start looting... it would have ended differently for him.  

it's reasons like this i want to be there, and will be as soon as i can.  
This is a perspective I get and understand.   Still not worth risking your families life (as you noted), but I get elements of our society look to these storms as opportunities.  You'd have to predetermine.. do you find ways to keep people out or stay home to protect.  
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Entropy on September 14, 2018, 12:27:55 PM
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/Insurance/story?id=94181 (https://abcnews.go.com/Business/Insurance/story?id=94181)

This is also part of the problem we have today.   We actually help people live in high risk areas. 
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: MarqHusker on September 14, 2018, 01:32:13 PM
This is one of the most insightful things I've seen on the board (and it goes beyond storms).
  
In a lot of cases, we WANT something to be, and we make it so. Earlier we were arguing climate change, who to believe, et al. And I can away thinking, people on both sides really WANT to believe one or the other, likely for reasons that aren't all that clear. Fans everywhere WANT to believe their team's issues can be solved by either benching someone or scheme changes.
Indeed.  This is why Theranos happened (was able to keep BSing people for so long).
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 14, 2018, 01:36:59 PM
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/Insurance/story?id=94181 (https://abcnews.go.com/Business/Insurance/story?id=94181)

This is also part of the problem we have today.   We actually help people live in high risk areas.  
Now you've done it!! You're going to get me started!!
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: ELA on September 14, 2018, 02:00:58 PM
So they should build a dam?
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: MrNubbz on September 14, 2018, 02:48:02 PM
a reason why:  last night when winds were gusting over 115 and sustained over 90, rain falling in literal sheets, a uhaul comes driving down the road.... why?  guess... they stopped in front of my house and as soon as they did my neighbor and his neighbor, both friends, painted him with laser sights- as soon as he was painted he hauled some ass out of there with a quickness, his truck swaying this way and that... bastard.  they're good people and defused the situation... i'd have waited for him to get out and start looting... it would have ended differently for him.  
It's situations like this that IMO vigilante justice is well justified.And in a circumstance like this with no cameras and the weather washing away any evidence it could be pulled off with no problem.Pretty much no eye witnesses around or none that would testify anyway.Society could get lucky and the storm might wash these A-Holes out to sea.That's just me - I'm a nice guy
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 14, 2018, 03:04:57 PM
Yeah, if anyone asks why you would ever need an AR-15 for home protection, it is to fend off looters during a natural disaster.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 14, 2018, 03:41:58 PM
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Well... Hell... 

On hwy 24 between swansboro and cedar point is a tiny stretch of land between two bridges... On this lives a place called the yacht club.  It sounds upitty but it is not... This was coolest place in area where richest of rich in area rubbed elbows with the poorest of the poor, and where nobody gave anyone a moments grief.  The bar was always open and the guys would cook on the back deck giving fantastic food away for free... Usually what somebody caught that day... It was a locals place but never seen them mistreat tourists.  Live bands on storm deck were common, and always a great place to relax and enjoy community.  

Its gone... Dang it.  I hope they rebuild .
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: utee94 on September 14, 2018, 04:01:04 PM
That sucks drew.  Sounds like they gave a lot to the community, I'd imagine the community would be willing to give back.  Just need some help organizing it, I'd guess.
Title: Re: Hurricane Florence related news involving games
Post by: bayareabadger on September 14, 2018, 04:03:05 PM
So they should build a dam?
A big one, and levees too. Somethig that holds off nature, but only nature in its most docile form.