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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: MarqHusker on September 05, 2018, 11:29:32 PM
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It would be a mistake to bury the chatter for this one in the (Off)(On)Season Thread.
I'll just rip and read FF's post.
NEBRASKA vs. COLORADO
SEPT. 8, 2018 | MEMORIAL STADIUM
LINCOLN, NEB. | 2:30 P.M. (CT)
BROADCAST INFO
TV - ABC (Bob Wischusen, Brock Huard, Allison Williams)
BUFFALOES
Last Game: def. Colorado State, 45-13
Coach: Mike MacIntyre
Career/Colorado Record: 42-59 (9th Year)/26-38 (6th Year) vs. Nebraska: 3-5
Nebraska-Colorado Series
Nebraska and Colorado are familiar foes with Saturday's meeting the 70th all-time between the schools, but the first since 2010. Nebraska holds a 49-18-2 all-time edge in the series, including a 26-8 mark in Lincoln.
• Nebraska and Colorado met each season from 1948 to 2010, as members of the Big Seven, Big Eight and Big 12 Conferences.
• From 1996 to 2010, the Huskers and Buffs concluded the regular season against each other on Black Friday. Nebraska held an 11-4 edge in the series during that time period.
• Nebraska and Colorado combined to win the final eight Big Eight championships from 1988 to 1995.
• Nebraska and Colorado will play in Boulder in 2019 (Sept. 7) and the teams will also have a home-and-home in 2023 (Boulder) and 2024 (Lincoln).
Nebraska has Long History of Battling Pac-12 Foes
Nebraska’s meeting with Colorado continues a tradition of playing marquee non-conference games against Pac-12 opponents. Since 1983, Nebraska has played 32 regular-season non-conference games against teams that were in the Pac-12 at game time.
• Nebraska is 23-9 against the Pac-12 in regular season games since 1983. In that stretch, NU is 6-1 vs. Arizona State, 5-3 vs. UCLA, 3-1 vs. Oregon, 2-0 vs. California, 4-2 vs. Washington, 2-0 vs. Oregon State, 1-0 vs. Washington State and 0-2 vs. USC. The record against Pac-12 foes does not include conference games against Colorado in that time frame.
• Nebraska has also played five bowl games against Pac-12 teams in that time period, going 2-3 in those games.
• Nebraska played at least one non-conference game against a Pac-12 foe for 17 straight seasons from 1983 to 1999.
Youth Dominates NU Roster
Nebraska's 135-player roster features 50 newcomers who were not on last year's roster, including 38 true freshmen and 12 transfers (6 junior college transfers, 4 FBS transfers and 2 FCS transfers).
• Nearly two-thirds of the squad is comprised of underclassmen, as 89 of the Huskers’ 135 players are either freshmen or sophomores.
• Of the 25 players on the offensive depth chart, 16 are underclassmen and seven are newcomers.
• Of the 27 players on the defensive depth chart, 11 are underclassmen and six are newcomers.
COACHING CONNECTIONS: Both Colorado and Nebraska have an assistant coach on their current staffs who once worked at the other school.
CU outside linebackers coach and special teams coordinator Ross Els worked at NU from 2011-14 under Bo Pelini. Meanwhile, current Nebraska offensive coordinator Troy Walters worked at Colorado as MacIntyre's receivers coach from 2013-15.
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It's the kind of matchup that reminds me of the first time Nebraska played Penn St. as a member of the B1G. Despite the home/home series in 02/03 or whatever, it's like 'Where have you been, old foe?'
Are there any Buff fans lurking on the Pac board?
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Boy they really shellacked the Rams.
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This was a top-5 rivalry game when I was growing up in the early 90s - great to see them playing again.
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I heard that CU's passing game looked pretty sharp against CSU...but CSU is going to be terrible this year, so IDK what that's worth. Its game experience though.
I really have no feel for this game, at all. I think NU has to survive CO's edge in experience for the first half, and stay close enough to make a go of it in the 4th.
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It would be a mistake to bury the chatter for this one in the (Off)(On)Season Thread.
I'll just rip and read FF's post.
I've made a few mistakes.
But, it wasn't a mistake to stay home last Saturday.
I'll be in Lincoln for this one against Ralphie. Probably in the Haymarket at Buzzard Billy's around 4-5 for Happy hour Friday afternoon.
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Ralphie is a COW!!!!
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It's the kind of matchup that reminds me of the first time Nebraska played Penn St. as a member of the B1G. Despite the home/home series in 02/03 or whatever, it's like 'Where have you been, old foe?'
Are there any Buff fans lurking on the Pac board?
The only Buffs fan I recall on "this" board was back in 2000-2003 or so. He was a good guy but I haven't seen him since about then. He and I went back and forth when UW and UC were set to play in the Alamo Bowl. It didn't quite turn out like he expected (Colorado running wild on the Badgers). :)
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I heard that CU's passing game looked pretty sharp against CSU...but CSU is going to be terrible this year, so IDK what that's worth. Its game experience though.
I really have no feel for this game, at all. I think NU has to survive CO's edge in experience for the first half, and stay close enough to make a go of it in the 4th.
I have no idea what to expect from UNL... while CU doesn't have film on the huskers this year, they do have a game under their belt. UNL has new systems/schemes which will be prone to mistakes (just natural) and guys will still be figuring things out 3-4 games into the season as new twist are thrown at them. The muscle memory or fundamental "this is what I do now" will take some time for both the individual and team. You need games to work it out.
Game experience>>lack of film. I'm leaning towards a CU win.
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Ralphie is a COW!!!!
Damn gender-benders,what kinda message does that send the opposing football team
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I have no idea what to expect from UNL... while CU doesn't have film on the huskers this year, they do have a game under their belt. UNL has new systems/schemes which will be prone to mistakes (just natural) and guys will still be figuring things out 3-4 games into the season as new twist are thrown at them. The muscle memory or fundamental "this is what I do now" will take some time for both the individual and team. You need games to work it out.
Game experience>>lack of film. I'm leaning towards a CU win.
Colorado has Ross Els coaching their LBs and STs.
Playing offense against Ross Els>>Game experience>>film
Run the Jet Sweep!
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I haven't looked at the box, but I know they were -3 on turnovers, gave up two 3rd and longer than 17s, and then the stupid penalty on 3rd and a mile. OL had some breakdowns, I know the Center went out early. Looked like a first game of the season, which certainly didn't help. CU made some nice adjustments against the run in the 2nd half.
On the upside, Martinez, hoping he's not a turnover machine, shows a lot of positives. More of a mustang instead of the crotch rocket that T. Martinez was. I like the running backs, though Bell was oblivious to some big holes in the first half. Martinez going down leaving walk on Bunch holding the bag in the final minutes wasn't helpful, but that's the hand Nebraska has to play.
CU WR #2 is a stud. That's not a bad team at all. I said Nebraska has 8 win talent, but 5 win experience. They are going to have some thin margins this season.
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This was a top-5 rivalry game when I was growing up in the early 90s - great to see them playing again.
really? maybe a top 5 rivalry in the Big 12. maybe.
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Martinez is dangerous. I hope he’s back in a couple weeks. Other than that the Huskers shot themselves in the ass. Frost will clean that up. Nebraska looks better than anticipated, especially the D.
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WAY too many mistakes
some very stupid mistakes
I was hoping for better, but it was the first game with many young inexperienced players
We will see. I'm a bit disappointed.
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I thought the defense, especially the line, performed (significantly?) above expectations.
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Yeah, they had seven sacks, I think, they had like 7 sacks all of last season.
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I thought the defense, especially the line, performed (significantly?) above expectations.
It's encouraging, but this was a PAC12 team, not Wisconsin or Iowa
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Ralphie should be a two way player in the trenches.
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Life is tough. Football is tough.
I think the Huskers win this one and by a decent margin if they had the benefit of a warmup game.
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Martinez is dangerous. I hope he’s back in a couple weeks. Other than that the Huskers shot themselves in the ass. Frost will clean that up. Nebraska looks better than anticipated, especially the D.
Outside the turnovers, there were a lot of first game mistakes. Unfortunately, CU had fewer because this was game 2.
based upon my expectations.... I thought the D was more aggressive and faster than I expected. I thought the OL was more physical than expected. WR's disappointed..... but Mo Barry is going to be good and the DL played like the DL's of the 90's.
Overall, they seem ahead of my own mental schedule.
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Life is tough. Football is tough.
I think the Huskers win this one and by a decent margin if they had the benefit of a warmup game.
agree..
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Frost's Press Conference after the loss..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s0uyi8jUv8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s0uyi8jUv8)
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I have seen the first half, and the last 1:41. I felt very differently between the two, LOL.
The Good
Any time you roll out a brand-new scheme with a questionable OL and a brand-new backfield, let alone one with a true freshman QB, and put up 565 yards, you are doing some things right. That said, 565 yards should get you more than 28 points. (Turnovers)
The defensive front looks salty, and pretty sharp. A couple of those LBs (Barry and Ferg) are legit mofos, and I think we have the DL to play with the better teams in the league. No stars there (Maybe Ben Stille, someday) but a pretty solid six
Seven sacks. (We had 14 last year) 1.3 YPC allowed. The kids HIT.
The Bad
Not a great day for pass pro, the WRs or secondary. The wides can recover, but the DBs and OL need a rebuild. DB is so bad that while Bo Pelini is about to be fired from his next coaching gig, we still have one of his dudes starting (Coincidentally, the same guy who committed the fatal PF). Along with another that transferred for UCF in the spring. Complete failure by Riley here.
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That said, Shenault is a great receiver, and Montez was throwing strikes despite taking a beating. Colorado may be a pretty decent football team this year. Time will tell, but the much-panned Colorado State team they crushed last week defeated Arkansas on Saturday. That thunderstorm storm may have cost us 2 wins, and a bowl game.
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Colorado also has 2 very good LB's who will be all Pac before the season's over.
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I have seen the first half, and the last 1:41. I felt very differently between the two, LOL.
the 2nd half is what disappointed me
thought the Huskers would keep the momentum from the 2nd quarter and play better in the 2nd half
the quicker pace and all the conditioning didn't seem to wear down the Buffs in the 4th quarter
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Agree...tempo is not a concept exclusive to NU though.
Maybe the untold story of the game really is how Colorado owned the second half? And really, even a little bit before? Starting with their FG drive before half, they outscored us 20-7, and missed two other FGs (We missed one) while outgaining us in final two quarters.
Not so sure this game was one that NU just let slip away, as is the common narrative...its kind of looks like a Nebraska rally sandwiched between periods of Colorado control. But that's me not having watched the whole thing, and looking at the stat sheet.
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Maybe the untold story of the game really is how Colorado owned the second half? And really, even a little bit before? Starting with their FG drive before half, they outscored us 20-7, and missed two other FGs (We missed one) while outgaining us in final two quarters.
Not so sure this game was one that NU just let slip away, as is the common narrative...its kind of looks like a Nebraska rally sandwiched between periods of Colorado control. But that's me not having watched the whole thing, and looking at the stat sheet.
THIS is what disappoints me.
It seems Frost and others want to point to more than a few bad mistakes and insist the Huskers handed this game to the Buffs.
That is undeniably true to a certain extent. But, why not admit that the Buffs out played the Huskers on both sides of the ball for the 2nd half?
because we don't want to disappoint the fans, and we want to keep things very positive for the players? If those are the reasons, I'm fine with that. Gotta try to keep a wee bit of momentum.
Better dern well beat Troy this Saturday
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That thunderstorm storm may have cost us 2 wins, and a bowl game.
I think that's fair.
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I know it was a loss. Still, I look at it as a sign of Frost being ahead of schedule. It's just one game, so maybe there'll be contradictory signs later, but the improvements for the defensive front were stark.
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Bob Diaco's defensive front?
Coach Cosgrove's defensive front was a stark improvement from Diaco
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THIS is what disappoints me.
It seems Frost and others want to point to more than a few bad mistakes and insist the Huskers handed this game to the Buffs.
That is undeniably true to a certain extent. But, why not admit that the Buffs out played the Huskers on both sides of the ball for the 2nd half?
because we don't want to disappoint the fans, and we want to keep things very positive for the players? If those are the reasons, I'm fine with that. Gotta try to keep a wee bit of momentum.
Might be an admission that we got outcoached in 2H? The first time CU really got to digest our schemes was at halftime.
It really shouldn't be an issue for a staff coaching their first game, but who knows.
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I know it was a loss. Still, I look at it as a sign of Frost being ahead of schedule. It's just one game, so maybe there'll be contradictory signs later, but the improvements for the defensive front were stark.
The offense looked very polished as well. Typically at this point, the ball is skipping off empty patches of turf, linemen are pulling the wrong way, snaps are flying past the QB's turned head, and all manner of other miscues that were in short supply Saturday.
One area to keep an eye on is going to coverage. The last two DCs came in and forced in a defense they did not have the players to execute, and I am not confident we have the CBs to pull of Chin's scheme against good offenses. If not...will he adjust, or will we just hope to win shootouts?
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The offense looked very polished as well. Typically at this point, the ball is skipping off empty patches of turf, linemen are pulling the wrong way, snaps are flying past the QB's turned head, and all manner of other miscues that were in short supply Saturday.
One area to keep an eye on is going to coverage. The last two DCs came in and forced in a defense they did not have the players to execute, and I am not confident we have the CBs to pull of Chin's scheme against good offenses. If not...will he adjust, or will we just hope to win shootouts?
Adjust against the pass how - in the back half or up with more pressure up front? The second one seems like it fits the roster better/is more likely to work. In the Rich Rodriguez era, Michigan had neither a pass rush, CBs, nor safeties befitting a ... Top 100 team. And perhaps no adjustment could have fixed it. Dark dark times. UNL is far better off up front and that can somewhat hold the leaks back until reinforcement (recruiting) comes to the secondary.
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Husker's sack numbers and pressure was encouraging
how many of the 7 sacks were in the first half? How many in the 2nd?
7 sacks was very good, but 8 or 9 sacks might have won the game.
It's a tough call to blitz and leave the secondary exposed, but that QB was throwing strikes
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Adjust against the pass how - in the back half or up with more pressure up front? The second one seems like it fits the roster better/is more likely to work. In the Rich Rodriguez era, Michigan had neither a pass rush, CBs, nor safeties befitting a ... Top 100 team. And perhaps no adjustment could have fixed it. Dark dark times. UNL is far better off up front and that can somewhat hold the leaks back until reinforcement (recruiting) comes to the secondary.
I was thinking more along the lines of using zone, even though its not Chin' forte.
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Adrian Martinez did not practice again on Wednesday.
I'm guessing that means he won't play against Troy, unless the other two QBs go down
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https://www.huskermax.com/adrian-martinez-injury-nebraska-vs-colorado-football-2018/ (https://www.huskermax.com/adrian-martinez-injury-nebraska-vs-colorado-football-2018/)
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https://www.huskermax.com/adrian-martinez-injury-nebraska-vs-colorado-football-2018/ (https://www.huskermax.com/adrian-martinez-injury-nebraska-vs-colorado-football-2018/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=58&v=9yj3-Qf3SUU
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it's not as violent has many husker fans make it out to be, but there is definitely some extra effort put in there to bend/twist the leg. If I wasn't a Nebraska fan I'd understand why the PAC10 didn't suspend him, but I'd wonder why the BIG didn't support..
As a husker fan, he should be suspended by the PAC and the BIG should be more supportive (meaning, publically question it and suggest it needs to be addressed in the offseason with officials)
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Yeah, I'd heard it compared to a gator death roll on the radio. A tad hyperbolic, but certainly a little extracurricular.
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I'm ok with no suspension. it's not blatant and can't prove the intention.
Glad Frost sent it in to send a message that this should not be happening in the sport and you may be held accountable
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Chip the Buffalo, the University of Colorado's mascot, did not have a good weekend. During Colorado's easy victory over New Hampshire, Chip misfired a t-shirt cannon — directly at his own groin:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1042464408423657472/pu/img/cLfgCmvZjOw-GE6z?format=jpg&name=small)
http://digg.com/2018/mascot-t-shirt-cannon-groin (http://digg.com/2018/mascot-t-shirt-cannon-groin)
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Now THAT is a Darwin award.