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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: Temp430 on August 04, 2018, 09:40:47 AM
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Dates televised:
8/6 Indiana
8/7 Ohio State
8/9 Rutgers
8/10 Maryland
8/11 Penn State
8/13 Michigan
8/14 Michigan State
8/15 Wisconsin
8/16 Minnesota
8/20 Nebraska
8/20 Iowa
8/21 Illinois
8/22 Purdue
8/23 Northwestern
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(1) given the split Mondays, I imagine these are the dates they'll televise the show, not the dates of each visit
(2) accidentally (?) dramatic that OSU comes so early
(3) four-fifths of the top meat of the conference is compressed between the 13th and 15th. I'm guessing that's more by geographical design than from a strategy to stretch out the show's interest.
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14 way tie for first again?
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Ha, you do repeat that each year. I disagree. No doubt they are positive at each stop, but the amplitude of their positivity couldn't be more obviously varied. And as the visits accumulate, they also give a "on this side of the ball, these 2-4 teams are obviously miles ahead" quote or two.
So sure it's fluff, but the fluff is in proportion to something real, so if you watch them all and subtract the noise, what's left is something worth gleaning during the final lean-info days of summer.
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Every team is going to be bigger, stronger, faster, smarter and better.
Absolutely no reason to watch these. I just gave it to ya.
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It's not quite that bad
I will watch
mostly because there won't be anything better in that time slot
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It's not quite that bad
I will watch
mostly because there won't be anything better in that time slot
Hear hear
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Ha, you do repeat that each year. I disagree. No doubt they are positive at each stop, but the amplitude of their positivity couldn't be more obviously varied. And as the visits accumulate, they also give a "on this side of the ball, these 2-4 teams are obviously miles ahead" quote or two.
So sure it's fluff, but the fluff is in proportion to something real, so if you watch them all and subtract the noise, what's left is something worth gleaning during the final lean-info days of summer.
I disagree, they pick different areas of each team to be most impressed by, so within a given team that tips you off to probably that team's strong suits, but how that rates against the strengths of conference rivals? They never tip their hand there. The best parts of Rutgers' roster draws just as rave reviews as the best parts of Ohio State's
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What are the chances they surface something ELA and others have not already divined?
Probably some details, like how the 3rd strong long snapper is looking?
Nah, some of us will watch because it's August and we're getting pumped.
I watched the tail end of the Rose Bowl last night for a few. I watched the beginning of the NC game and somehow changed channels after a bit.
Auburn will play three straight games in Atlanta. Georgia Tech does that on occasion I imagine.
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I disagree, they pick different areas of each team to be most impressed by, so within a given team that tips you off to probably that team's strong suits, but how that rates against the strengths of conference rivals? They never tip their hand there. The best parts of Rutgers' roster draws just as rave reviews as the best parts of Ohio State's
They ultimately rank the units and teams verbally based on what they've seen. That alone dispenses of the idea that everyone gets the same treatment.
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They ultimately rank the units and teams verbally based on what they've seen. That alone dispenses of the idea that everyone gets the same treatment.
If they've done a bus tour unit rankings before, I've never seen them.
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If they've done a bus tour unit rankings before, I've never seen them.
It's always informal, without a graphic, but definitely explicit. And they don't contradict that mile high view as they go (they don't say that each host that day is one of the top few; instead they look back and explicitly say who the top one or few they've seen are).
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Updated schedule now has the BTN bus in State College on Aug. 11th.
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I like the concept. It's akin to our discussing prospects around here in effect, just on TV, which otherwise would be showing .... what?
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I like the concept. It's akin to our discussing prospects around here in effect, just on TV, which otherwise would be showing .... what?
Classic games that are more than 2 years old? Like they did when the network first launched.
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This is the kind of thing I see as standard. It's not all roses. And informal rankings arise. The bus tour is not all fluff:
https://mobile.twitter.com/gerrydinardo/status/1028006366697402369
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This is the kind of thing I see as standard. It's not all roses. And informal rankings arise. The bus tour is not all fluff:
https://mobile.twitter.com/gerrydinardo/status/1028006366697402369
The full quote ended with "...but would obviously be 1st in any non Big Ten division though."
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Riveting stuff from Nards.
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Ha - Eye rolls. You guys claimed that nothing unpositive (or that smelled like a ranking) ever happened on the bus tour, which wasn't true and easy to disprove. I never promised that the bus tour was awesome, just that it isn't pure fluff, and so certain good info (even if sparse) can be gleaned about how the teams look relative to one another. That was never a big or risky claim ... one of the reasons I found it so strange that you were disagreeing so absolutely.
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Assuming they got to 5th by passing Indiana, when they were in Bloomington did they point out that they were concerned that the Hoosiers had dropped to 6th in talent within the division?
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I wasn't paying attention to know. And from recollection, I don't think you were either. Also unclear why it matters (well, this conversation doesn't matter period, but I meant that I don't understand why it's germane).
Someone was ranked mediocrely or poorly (depends on perspective) and that's a thing I said the bus tour does. Which was a silly thing for people who don't follow the tour to guarantee never happens.
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Obviously the 14 way tie for first is a joke. No, they don't pick them all to go undefeated. But they refuse to paint any of them in a negative light. I read that Tweet as, look, Maryland is up to 5th in the East! I'm fine with it, it's football talk, there's no harm in it. But when we criticize ESPN/SECN for glowing at all times about the SEC, I'm going to be willing to acknowledge that BTN does the exact same thing.
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All 14 teams have a chance to make some noise this year!!
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BTN will soften the negatives... in general. I don't think it is limited to the Bus tour