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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: nuwildcat on August 31, 2017, 03:55:30 AM
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As far as the 'Cats are concerned, qualifying for the postseason is never guaranteed so 6 wins honestly make me happy every time
- I know many NU fans were pissed that we "only" ended up in the Pinstripe Bowl with a .500 record .... they kept looking at our horrific 1-3 start and thought, "What if ..."
- well, unless you're Marty McFly, u can't go back in time so it does little for one's sanity to dwell on old crap that'll never be undone
- along that line, I preferred to view last year's campaign as, "Hey, despite our horrific 1-3 start, we still made it to and even won a bowl game!"
That said, this year's team may be the best Fitz has ever had led by an experienced QB / RB tandem that's easily as good as any in the conference
Because of that and the fact that said tandem will be broken up once Justin Jackson graduates, I'll up the ante and say 'Winning the West' would constitute a successful 2017 season
Oh, also, we have to beat Illinois dammit
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PSU: An good/expected season would be a NY6 bowl berth. A great season would be a CFP berth.
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Well the goal going in is always an undefeated season, but any season that contains a win over That Team Up North is special.
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6-6
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Beat TTUN, win B1G, make playoff.
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At a minimum, a New Year's Six Bowl Game.
Expectations are very high this season, but it's all about the starting QB staying healthy. If he goes down, a Pinstripe Bowl would be fine. Depth is pretty good at all the other positions.
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For the Dawgs, it really comes down to beating Florida. This team has a lot of talent and experience (except in the OL, which is the huge?). Beating Florida probably means playing Alabama.
11-3 would be a pretty solid campaign, IFF they beat Florida.
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This is interesting. Not a bad showing from the B1G.
http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2017-08-23/whos-had-most-combined-college-football-and-basketball-success-last?utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=email&utm_source=8-28-newsletter&utm_content=link-1
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Nine regular season wins is successful, though a hint unsatisfying given the schedule.
Ten wins is good, 11 very good, 12 outstanding but semi-attainable.
I'm usually in the nine is successful and eight is fine camp, but the schedule means eight might be rough, pending QB health.
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Honestly 4-5 wins and being competitive in the games. Building on some recruiting momentum rather than losing it with poor play.
6-6 would be the absolute ceiling probably with all these freshman that will be playing
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Beating Ohio State.
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Nine regular season wins is successful, though a hint unsatisfying given the schedule.
Ten wins is good, 11 very good, 12 outstanding but semi-attainable.
I'm usually in the nine is successful and eight is fine camp, but the schedule means eight might be rough, pending QB health.
9 wins IMO would be fairly disastrous considering the schedule. I imagine Wisconsin will be favored in every game, and heavily favored in 11 of them.
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9 wins IMO would be fairly disastrous considering the schedule. I imagine Wisconsin will be favored in every game, and heavily favored in 11 of them.
I prefer to let the schedule play out. Last year looked very hard and later UW was criticized because "LSU wasn't all that" and "MSU was terrible" and all that garbage talk. Had LSU beat UW last year, they would have had 10 wins. But they didn't.
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Nine regular season wins is successful, though a hint unsatisfying given the schedule.
Ten wins is good, 11 very good, 12 outstanding but semi-attainable.
I'm usually in the nine is successful and eight is fine camp, but the schedule means eight might be rough, pending QB health.
Tough to find a loss on that Badger schedule.
One would be understandable, maybe.
Two or three would be somewhat alarming.
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Road games at Minnie and UNL are looming. Road games are hard - always - and those two teams in particular would give their first born to beat UW this year. Michigan will be very good by the end of the year too. Iowa is always a border blood bath. Always has been. NU is always a pain in the ass. Always has been.
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PSU: An good/expected season would be a NY6 bowl berth. A great season would be a CFP berth.
With a minimum 10 win regular season.
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Road games at Minnie and UNL are looming. Road games are hard - always - and those two teams in particular would give their first born to beat UW this year. Michigan will be very good by the end of the year too. Iowa is always a border blood bath. Always has been. NU is always a pain in the ass. Always has been.
Yeah, but there's a difference between what is conceivable and what is successful.
When you'll be favored in all 12, and heavily favored in 11, winning only 9 is possible, but I don't see any way to twist that into successful.
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Successful would be beating Iowa, Minnie and UNL so as to keep the trophy case full.
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Does the trophy case not have slots for Divisional, Conference, and Bowl Game trophies?
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For Purdue. 4 wins would be a success, and looking like the team actually has some life in them in the losses.
I know Vegas has the O/U as 2.5 wins for the Boilers, but IMHO the schedule is easier on the back end and if Brohm is as good as billed, hopefully the team will be coming together by then.
I think the Boilers have possible wins against Ohio, Minnesota, @Rutgers, Illinois, and Indiana. Having 4 of those 5 at home doesn't hurt.
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win 9-10 games. Beat Ohio State at home. Show development and improvement over the course of the season in the young secondary, WR corps, and OL. Wilton Speight taking a step up and becoming a better QB and leader, and a RB on the roster emerging from the pack- preferably Chris Evans. Anything else is gravy.
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Does the trophy case not have slots for Divisional, Conference, and Bowl Game trophies?
Of course, but not in the same case.
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Yeah, but there's a difference between what is conceivable and what is successful.
When you'll be favored in all 12, and heavily favored in 11, winning only 9 is possible, but I don't see any way to twist that into successful.
The thing is, I don't know they'll be favored in all those games. And I don't know how favored and such.
When I was in school, UW had back to back seasons with high expectations and neither team was all that. What I don't know simply outweighs what I do.
I look at 2015. UW lost in dumb fashion twice to two teams whose wins outpaces their play. In a way that's not successful, but it was still 10-3 with a good bowl win. Maybe nine wins isn't a success this year, but I won't judge a nine-win season as unsuccessful until I have all the info (plus UW's status is more about brand and other teams than what I know about the QB, running backs, new DC)
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What is your team's conference road versus home record over the past say ten years or so?
How tough is it to win on the road versus at home?
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Beating Ohio State.
So 1-11?
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I can articulate the gradients by which measurements are scored, considering Iowa's schedule:
9-3 Over achieving.
8-4 Success.
7-5 Satisfactory.
6-6 Disappointing; audible grumblings, but within expectations.
5-7 Grumblings are growing loud (but the coach will hang-on until tomorrow).
4-8 There will be some pissed-off Iowans; the QBs coach will "retire," other coaches will hold-on 'til next year.
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6-6
FWIW, BTN's Tom Dienhart has u guys getting there:
"The Big Ten will have nine bowl teams. Who do I see in the postseason? Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State and Maryland in the East. Wisconsin, Northwestern, Nebraska and Iowa in the West."
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No rowboats in the West??
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FWIW, BTN's Tom Dienhart has u guys getting there:
"The Big Ten will have nine bowl teams. Who do I see in the postseason? Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State and Maryland in the East. Wisconsin, Northwestern, Nebraska and Iowa in the West."
Pretty much every projection other than my own has said 6-6 or 7-5, but I just don't see it right now.
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Counting bowl game / potential BigTen Championship Game:
Overachieving: 0-1 loss
Success: 2 losses
Expectation: 3 losses
Disappointment: 4 losses
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For Purdue. 4 wins would be a success, and looking like the team actually has some life in them in the losses.
I know Vegas has the O/U as 2.5 wins for the Boilers, but IMHO the schedule is easier on the back end and if Brohm is as good as billed, hopefully the team will be coming together by then.
I think the Boilers have possible wins against Ohio, Minnesota, @Rutgers, Illinois, and Indiana. Having 4 of those 5 at home doesn't hurt.
I see it the same.
I'm hoping the injury to Blough doesn't derail any of this. I'd hate to have QB questions half way into the season.
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at this point, anything less than sec champs and a playoff birth is disappointing.
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I've noted before, if you are a K State fan, you can have a ton of fun with football and be happy you made some bowl game.
Fans for Alabama and Ohio State and a few others can get so wound up in "having to win" they can forget to have fun. Anything less than a conference championship and playoff spot is a disappointment.
Dawg fans are in that awful middle where you expect to be good enough to maybe somehow be good but you have that feeling you're going to lose "to Vandy" and blow it.
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I can articulate the gradients by which measurements are scored, considering Iowa's schedule:
9-3 Over achieving.
8-4 Success.
7-5 Satisfactory.
6-6 Disappointing; audible grumblings, but within expectations.
5-7 Grumblings are growing loud (but the coach will hang-on until tomorrow).
4-8 There will be some pissed-off Iowans; the QBs coach will "retire," other coaches will hold-on 'til next year.
I'm pretty much in agreement with this.
Last year, 8 wins was a minor disappointment considering the schedule, but wasn't all that bad considering the letdowns against ND St and Northwestern. I fully expected a loss against Penn State and Wisconsin, but 10-2 was not out of the question last year. And the bowl game performance was the most pitiful in recent memory.
8 wins this year, considering the schedule, I'd be more than fine with. I'd actually be a little disappointed with a 6-6/7-5 season, mainly because I really think Brian F. can breathe a spark of life into the Iowa offense (it might not be apparent right away, but when the meat of the B1G schedule hits, who knows). Iowa tends to do better against Wisconsin in Madison than in Iowa City, so I wouldn't hand the Badgers the Bronze Bull just yet. If Iowa has any luck with the passing game this year, that game will determine the West.
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I'd say that the Indiana/OSU game scared me WAY more about facing Indiana than I was yesterday afternoon. I thought losing Kevin Wilson was going to slow their offense down. It almost looks like it's gotten better.