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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: OrangeAfroMan on July 11, 2018, 09:12:33 AM

Title: Best #48
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 11, 2018, 09:12:33 AM
Another shorty, but goodie.  
I'll post #46 later, as I've only found 2 guys I'd even think of listing.....I'm sure I'll find a few more.  I'm driving cross-country right now, and I've got 900 miles of Texas to cover today.
Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: SFBadger96 on July 11, 2018, 12:05:55 PM
Two-time All American at Kansas, best back in the Big 8 in his first season. Has to be Sayers.
Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: ELA on July 11, 2018, 12:16:35 PM
Graham's 2,132 career passing yards was a Big Ten record at the time he graduated.  No clue where that is on the list now, I can't find a list that goes down that far.  Jim Everett's 3,256 yards is now #25 in Big Ten history...for a single season.
Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 11, 2018, 12:44:08 PM
Sayers is the best running back/returner I've ever seen (film, of course) of any, anywhere.
Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: Hoss on July 11, 2018, 02:03:28 PM
There is a line of thought that losing him to KU was what ultimately doomed Bill Jennings at Nebraska, paving the way for the hire of Bob Devaney a few years later. 
Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: Hoss on July 11, 2018, 02:05:40 PM
Additionally, KU's all-time backfield would probably be:

QB: Nolan Cromwell
FB: John Riggins
RB: Gale Sayers

...not too shabby.
Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: Entropy on July 11, 2018, 02:12:45 PM
Todd Reesing would not be a bad choice for their best ever qb either..
Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: ELA on July 11, 2018, 02:15:12 PM
Wouldn't matter.  Why would they ever put the ball in the air?
Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: FearlessF on July 11, 2018, 02:55:40 PM
3 huge names in history

gotta go with the kid from Omaha
Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: FearlessF on July 11, 2018, 02:56:51 PM
Wouldn't matter.  Why would they ever put the ball in the air?
exactly why you go with Cromwell, if one of the backs fumble Nolan can pick it up and run or make the tackle
Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 12, 2018, 06:57:05 PM
Some things:
We have 2 contemporaries, which is rare for this series.  Bertelli won the '43 Heisman, Graham finished 3rd.  
Bertelli had three top-6 Heisman finishes, but he didn't pass a ton, didn't run much...I'm wondering why he was so highly thought-of (besides being ND's QB).
KU's coach must've been a moron....his first year, he averaged 7.1 ypc.  He never had as many carries in a season as he did that first year.  WTF?
Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: ELA on July 12, 2018, 07:05:19 PM
He must have figured if he reduced his carries his ypc would be even better.

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Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 12, 2018, 07:07:05 PM
He must have figured if he reduced his carries his ypc would be even better.

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Damn, ELA, why'd you beat me to it? 
Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 12, 2018, 07:14:45 PM
Ah, except his backups didn't average higher ypc.....
Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: FearlessF on July 12, 2018, 09:27:53 PM
that wasn't the goal

the goal was the Kansas comet having the highest YPC
Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 12, 2018, 10:52:37 PM
You didn't understand a word I said, apparently.  
The goal, in this case, would be to give Sayers the ball so often that his YPC decreased until it equaled the backups'.
Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: FearlessF on July 12, 2018, 11:16:43 PM
your moneyball goal

not the goal of the Coach in charge
Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 12, 2018, 11:22:49 PM
Giving the most effective RB the ball more isn't going to help you win?  Since when???
Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: Hawkinole on July 15, 2018, 10:17:39 PM
There is a line of thought that losing him to KU was what ultimately doomed Bill Jennings at Nebraska, paving the way for the hire of Bob Devaney a few years later.
If that is the case, Nebraska was very fortunate to not recruit Gale Sayers.
Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: MarqHusker on July 15, 2018, 11:16:31 PM
My Dad got to play against Sayers in high school.  He did not tackle him.  Zig zag, TD.
Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 15, 2018, 11:36:12 PM
I played against the 'other' Adrian Peterson (Ga Southern/Chicago Bears), Ian Scott (Florida/Bears), and Thad Bullard (Florida/WWE "Titus O'Neil").
Title: Re: Best #48
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 19, 2018, 09:05:38 PM
I completely forgot about Terrell Suggs, DE, Arizona St.  

I specifically had him in mind, but evidently not when I posted the poll.  I'm confident Sayers wins anyway, but I bet Suggs would've finished 2nd.  My bad.