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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: OrangeAfroMan on July 05, 2018, 06:23:52 PM

Title: #38
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 05, 2018, 06:23:52 PM
If you know of others that belong on this list, please say so.  Kinda thin here, but maybe the best shot for a kicker, lol.
Title: Re: #38
Post by: SFBadger96 on July 05, 2018, 06:49:44 PM
Janikowski was legit. And the only two-time collegiate winner of best at his position.
Title: Re: #38
Post by: ELA on July 05, 2018, 08:16:30 PM
Janikowski was legit. And the only two-time collegiate winner of best at his position.
That's my vote too.  I need to practice what I preach re: not defaulting to QB/RB
Title: Re: #38
Post by: FearlessF on July 06, 2018, 12:12:12 AM
I gotta go homer here..........

Sam Francis was a shot putter who was NCAA champion in 1937 for the University of Nebraska and placed fourth in the shot put at the 1936 Summer Olympics, but he was better known as a football player. He was a running back for the Cornhuskers and in 1936 was runner-up in voting for the Heisman Trophy. Francis was a first round draft choice of the Philadelphia Eagles and played for four years in the NFL, but never for the Eagles, as they quickly traded him to the Chicago Bears. Francis later played for the Pittsburgh Steelers and Brooklyn Dodgers. His career was interrupted by World War II, and he then served in the Army until 1966, retiring with the rank of colonel. He also spent one year as head football coach at Kansas State in 1947.
Title: Re: #38
Post by: FearlessF on July 06, 2018, 12:14:04 AM
If you know of others that belong on this list, please say so.  Kinda thin here, but maybe the best shot for a kicker, lol.
well, if the kicker was also an NCAA track champion and Olympic competitor
Title: Re: #38
Post by: ELA on July 06, 2018, 12:15:13 AM
well, if the kicker was also an NCAA track champion and Olympic competitor
If the vote was for best all around athlete.
Title: Re: #38
Post by: FearlessF on July 06, 2018, 12:36:26 AM
or football player
Title: Re: #38
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 06, 2018, 12:56:22 AM
I do believe Janikowski was a fat prick alcoholic.  But he could really boot 'em!  
Title: Re: #38
Post by: Hawkinole on July 06, 2018, 01:26:18 AM
In my opinion Janikowski was not the best FSU kicker; Robert Aguayo hit on 88.5% of his field goals whereas Janikowski hit on 79.5%, and Aguayo had 3 more made for his career. Aguayo didn't wear #38. I didn't go homer here.
George Rogers took my vote for #38.
Janikowski would get my vote for largest FSU kicker.
Title: Re: #38
Post by: ELA on July 06, 2018, 10:42:33 AM
Hell, if SI cover boy Scott Bentley can't get any love...
Title: Re: #38
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 06, 2018, 11:22:01 AM
In my opinion Janikowski was not the best FSU kicker; Robert Aguayo hit on 88.5% of his field goals whereas Janikowski hit on 79.5%, and Aguayo had 3 more made for his career. Aguayo didn't wear #38. I didn't go homer here.
George Rogers took my vote for #38.
Janikowski would get my vote for largest FSU kicker.
Janikowski’s notoriety was his distance, not exactly his accuracy.  He was the first guy whose 50+ yard kicks weren’t scraping over the crossbar.
Title: Re: #38
Post by: FearlessF on July 06, 2018, 12:56:44 PM
Janikowski’s notoriety was his use of the date rape drug GHB
Title: Re: #38
Post by: Entropy on July 06, 2018, 01:08:44 PM
Roy Williams was one of the top 5 safeties I've seen play.... at least at the college level
Title: Re: #38
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 06, 2018, 02:55:04 PM
Hell, if SI cover boy Scott Bentley can't get any love...
Who could have predicted a kicker from Colorado wouldn't be as advertised in the state of FL?!???
Title: Re: #38
Post by: ELA on July 06, 2018, 03:25:39 PM
Who could have predicted a kicker from Colorado wouldn't be as advertised in the state of FL?!???
It was beyond that though.  Didn't he miss like 8 extra points in his first 6 games?  Don't need thin air the reach the posts from there.
Title: Re: #38
Post by: FearlessF on July 06, 2018, 03:38:31 PM
Husker fans don't care much for Bentley...........

Scoring summary from the 1994 Orange Bowl:

FS - Bentley 34 field goal, 7:54
NU - Baul 34 pass from Frazier (Bennett kick) 5:59 
FS - Bentley 25 field goal, 0:29
FS - Floyd 1 run (pass failed) 12:50
FS - Bentley 39 field goal, 3:06
NU - Phillips 12 run (run failed) 14:55
NU - Bennett 27 field goal, 1:16
FS - Bentley 22 field goal, 0:21


12 of the 18 points and many think Floyd didn't score
Title: Re: #38
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 06, 2018, 09:48:36 PM
He missed 9 XP in '93 and 16 in his career.  Yeesh.  

Title: Re: #38
Post by: FearlessF on July 06, 2018, 10:15:53 PM
Bobby didn't allow him to try an XP in that bowl game
Title: Re: #38
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 06, 2018, 10:22:34 PM
'93 FSU kind of underperformed.  Funny to say that about a national champ, but they lost to ND and nearly lost to Nebraska.  They were first in scoring O and D.  Heisman winner at QB.  2 first-team AA on defense.  RBs averaged like 6 ypc.  4 WR had 40+ catches.  

All that and they needed a knuckleball FG from Boston College to go through vs the Irish and Nebraska to miss a FG at the end.  
Title: Re: #38
Post by: FearlessF on July 06, 2018, 10:42:03 PM
Bobby and Bentley

and that Husker team was solid
Title: Re: #38
Post by: bayareabadger on July 06, 2018, 10:55:58 PM
Williams. 
Title: Re: #38
Post by: FearlessF on July 06, 2018, 11:14:05 PM
Roy Williams Superman dive @ Chris Simms causing game clinching interception *(from Oct. 6, 2001) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffJusl-xITY)
Title: Re: #38
Post by: ELA on July 07, 2018, 12:30:19 AM
He missed 9 XP in '93 and 16 in his career.  Yeesh.  


And I think it was like 8 in the first half of the season, and then he evened out.
Title: Re: #38
Post by: SFBadger96 on July 09, 2018, 12:32:47 PM
'93 FSU kind of underperformed.  Funny to say that about a national champ, but they lost to ND and nearly lost to Nebraska.  They were first in scoring O and D.  Heisman winner at QB.  2 first-team AA on defense.  RBs averaged like 6 ypc.  4 WR had 40+ catches.  

All that and they needed a knuckleball FG from Boston College to go through vs the Irish and Nebraska to miss a FG at the end.  
SFIrish, and all of her classmates, are still ticked off about this.
Title: Re: #38
Post by: FearlessF on July 09, 2018, 12:54:10 PM
Lou might not have agreed, but I felt the Noles and the Huskers were better than the Irish in 93
Title: Re: #38
Post by: SFBadger96 on July 09, 2018, 01:13:24 PM
Maybe so, but the Irish don't care. They know they beat FSU (at home, by a thread), and that FSU went and played for the MNC as a one-loss team, but they didn't--also a one-loss team. Of course, FSU's loss was to the Irish, whereas the Irish lost a week later--at home--to a team ranked in the teens (BC).

In the system as it was conceived at the time, FSU and Nebraska were the right choices for the Orange Bowl, but that don't matter to the Irish. They refer to it as Seminolegate. SFIrish was studying abroad that year, so that tempers some of the pain for her, but they are all still sore over it.

Fun fact: first on-campus College Gameday was the FSU/ND game.
Title: Re: #38
Post by: ELA on July 09, 2018, 02:50:57 PM
Lou might not have agreed, but I felt the Noles and the Huskers were better than the Irish in 93
Like hell he wouldn't have.  Lou felt the Noles, Huskers, and the South Bend Pop Warner team were better than his Irish, who were just lucky to be in any games that year
Title: Re: #38
Post by: ELA on July 09, 2018, 02:54:29 PM
Fun fact: first on-campus College Gameday was the FSU/ND game.
Some Most All of the Rudy stuff gets old, but you can't watch this and not get goosebumps.  Cheesy, sure.  But you can pump this nostalgia straight into my veins every fall Saturday morning

#1 FSU vs. #2 Notre Dame Intro - 1993 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cipJq3ZHuuQ)
Title: Re: #38
Post by: FearlessF on July 09, 2018, 03:28:53 PM
Like hell he wouldn't have.  Lou felt the Noles, Huskers, and the South Bend Pop Warner team were better than his Irish, who were just lucky to be in any games that year
after Boo Hoo Lou's crying for a share of the title that season, 
I remember Bobby Bowden being very gracious and admitting that Nebraska was probably the best team.  Probably just to get at Lou.  Bobby wasn't giving the hardware back.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR9JuD91ooLQD6yWJMZMmzuLEVfuqnqdTVG-a2QIaJ_Izec78plNg)
Title: Re: #38
Post by: ELA on July 09, 2018, 03:47:44 PM
Not quite sure how he could claim getting screwed in 1990.  Getting screwed in the Orange Bowl?  Perhaps.  Even with a win there, they weren't jumping an undefeated Georgia Tech, or probably even a 2 loss Miami (who ND did beat) the way those teams manhandled Nebraska and Texas in the Citrus and Cotton Bowls.
Title: Re: #38
Post by: SFBadger96 on July 09, 2018, 04:20:29 PM
Lou Holtz did a great job at ND. Really, he did. But for all the post hoc ND fandom I've acquiesced to in my married years, I've never really come around on him. I'll sing their praises, and I'll say he was good, but I won't sing his praises.

Screwed those years? Nope. Win the games you need to win--including BC at home.
Title: Re: #38
Post by: FearlessF on July 09, 2018, 04:55:33 PM
yup, Lou was a good coach and probably a better man

but, I don't need to blow his horn, he and others did that well enough