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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: OrangeAfroMan on June 13, 2018, 10:36:07 PM

Title: Best #2
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 13, 2018, 10:36:07 PM: Results visible after you vote.
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 14, 2018, 10:35:45 AM: I despise the kid I voted for.
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: Kris61 on June 14, 2018, 10:56:29 AM: That is a hell of a list of players there. Three Heisman trophy winners, two number one overall picks, and two other guys who went in the top 5.
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: MarqHusker on June 14, 2018, 01:12:52 PM: Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 14, 2018, 10:35:45 AM
I despise the kid I voted for.
We want a real clue.
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: FearlessF on June 14, 2018, 04:09:36 PM: Johnny is my guess
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: MarqHusker on June 14, 2018, 04:39:28 PM: I went with JFF as well. I watched all these guys in college, Couch less so. Cam was amazing, but not enough where one season trumps the other guys. Deion and Woodson speak for themselves, and I feel the same way about Champ Bailey (on the #4 vote) who for reasons which escape me, got muted love for Heisman consideration, immediately following Woodson, despite arguably better play. QBs have inherent advantage of being in a position of greater influence, and JFF was non-stop entertainment and great moments.

Really hard to punish Deion and Woodson for that, as they are both all-timers.
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 14, 2018, 04:43:43 PM: I think the A&M Asshat could have played a lot of positions, other than QB. That's why I place him above the rest of these very excellent players. He was a great football player. And an Asshat.

(https://www.cfb51.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_CmzJPa9xZzg%2FSXARWaVm1UI%2FAAAAAAAAAGo%2Feuj-oKp69Hc%2Fs400%2Fasshat.jpg&hash=ffb78b244287a3e1e2da0942c59d88e3)
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: FearlessF on June 14, 2018, 04:55:38 PM: I guessed Johnny was the ass hat - bingo

I voted for Woodson - Charles could have probably been a pretty good option QB - much better athlete and football player than Johnny the asshat
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 14, 2018, 05:21:54 PM: This is a good'n.
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 14, 2018, 05:40:02 PM: Quote from: FearlessF on June 14, 2018, 04:55:38 PM
I guessed Johnny was the ass hat - bingo

I voted for Woodson - Charles could have probably been a pretty good option QB - much better athlete and football player than Johnny the asshat
If Charles could have been a QB, he would have been one. Remember all those people who wanted to put Vince Young at WR or something other than QB?
No. F'n. Way.
When your best football player can play QB.. You play him at QB.
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 14, 2018, 05:41:50 PM: Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 14, 2018, 05:21:54 PM
This is a good'n.
There's definitely lurkers here.
I wish more would start posing again. Drew didn't waste his time and his (and mine) money to have 4 people here talking to each other.
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on June 14, 2018, 05:53:25 PM: Best #22 was the Round Mound of Touchdown.
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 14, 2018, 08:20:33 PM: Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 14, 2018, 05:40:02 PM
If Charles could have been a QB, he would have been one. Remember all those people who wanted to put Vince Young at WR or something other than QB?
No. F'n. Way.
When your best football player can play QB.. You play him at QB.
Ehhh, a VAST majority of elite skill position players at helmet schools played a lot of QB at their HS, because they could just dominate the field. There's one starting QB spot on a college football team and 25 guys who could do well there.
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: bayareabadger on June 14, 2018, 10:21:19 PM: I went Cam. He has a good case for best QB season ever.

Wanted to vote Deon, maybe Woodson. But Cam was just bonkers.
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: NorthernOhioBuckeye on June 15, 2018, 09:01:48 AM: I had to go with Woodson on this, although he played for that team up north. However, he worthy of the vote.

A little side bar here, but I officiated a couple of his games his senior year in HS. He was definitely a man amongst boys.
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: FearlessF on June 15, 2018, 11:07:24 AM: Quote from: bayareabadger on June 14, 2018, 10:21:19 PM
I went Cam. He has a good case for best QB season ever.

Wanted to vote Deon, maybe Woodson. But Cam was just bonkers.
perhaps character flaws shouldn't be part of the equation in best ever voting, but I'm not rewarding guys like Johnny and Cam with my vote.
regardless of stats
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 15, 2018, 10:18:24 PM: Hasn't seemed to hinder Vick in the #7 voting...
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: FearlessF on June 15, 2018, 10:58:20 PM: was he a cheating dog murderer in College?
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 15, 2018, 11:01:25 PM: So it's when you're a dope? You know it's hard to get a good dog-fighting ring going before you sign a million-dollar contract.....

lol
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: FearlessF on June 15, 2018, 11:17:20 PM: well, yes, the timeline is important

there's a college career and college stats

NFL stats or success or lack thereof shouldn't be a factor

OJ Simpson wasn't a murderer at USC as far as we know

Lawrence Phillips obviously had issues with violence while at UNL, but didn't kill anyone until later. As far as we know...

Cam Newton and Reggie Bush were paid to play - didn't kill any dogs

Sooner option QB wizard Charles Thompson was dealing cocaine while on the team and dismissed - another great #6

as you know..... countless thugs on the Miami Hurricane teams over the years
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: MarqHusker on June 15, 2018, 11:25:06 PM: The irony is, Charles Thompson #6 turned his life around despite all those serious problems, and Jamelle Holieway #4 went into the tank, though it appears he's come out of his series of arrests in the 00s.
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: FearlessF on June 15, 2018, 11:31:08 PM: Jamelle Holieway was scary good

not as scary as Dupree, but....... wow
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: FearlessF on June 15, 2018, 11:46:01 PM: there's another question

since J. C. Watts went on to become a congressman, does he get xtra credit for his #1 jersey?

or was that a bad thing, since he converted to a Republican from growing up a democrat?
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 16, 2018, 01:03:17 AM: I assume everyone was on cocaine in the 80s....
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: FearlessF on June 16, 2018, 08:41:14 AM: fair assumption

not everyone was dealing
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: ALA2262 on June 29, 2018, 04:50:18 PM: No Derrick Henry?
Title: Re: Best #2
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 29, 2018, 05:16:26 PM: I totally whiffed on many recent players in the early going of this series. I don't believe any of the ones I forgot would have won, but certainly Henry should've been included on the list to begin with. My bad.