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Title: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: ELA on April 23, 2024, 03:08:38 PM
Starting with my mock draft.  Once again, what I would do, not what I think they will do.  No inside sources here...

FIRST ROUND




Jets trade Pick #10 to Bengals for Pick #18 and 2nd Round (Pick #49)




Eagles trade Pick #22 to 49ers for Pick #31 and 3rd Round (Pick #94) and 4th Round (Pick #124)




Packers trade Pick #25 to Ravens for Pick #30 and 3rd Round (Pick #93)




Buccaneers trade Pick #26 to Panthers for 2nd Round (Pick #33) and 4th Round (Pick #101)




Chiefs trade Pick #32 and 3rd Round (Pick #95) to Raiders for 2nd Round (Pick #44) and 3rd Round (Pick #77) 


Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 23, 2024, 03:28:14 PM
I would have kept Justin Fields and traded down to get Harrison. But I'm not stupid.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: ELA on April 23, 2024, 05:55:25 PM
SECOND ROUND




Commanders trade Pick #40 to Saints for Pick #45 and two 5th Round (#150 and #175) 




Packers trade Pick #41 to Steelers for Pick #51 and 3rd Round (#98)




Texans trade Pick #42 and 4th Round (#127) to Giants for Pick #47 and 4th Round (#107)




Packers trade Pick #58 to Patriots for 3rd Round (#68) and 4th Round (#103)




Bills trade Pick #60 to Bengals for two 3rd Round picks (#80 and #97)




Lions trade Pick #61 and 5th Round (#164) to Chargers for 3rd Round (#69) and 4th Round (#110)


Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: Cincydawg on April 24, 2024, 07:41:22 AM
I think Sedrick van Pran at Center is a very good NFL prospect.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 24, 2024, 08:38:54 AM
Probably a 3rd rounder. UW's highest chance, I think.

(https://i.imgur.com/klTU9u4.png)
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: ELA on April 24, 2024, 10:28:15 AM
THIRD ROUND



Commanders trade Pick #67 to Bears for Pick #75 and 4th Round (#142)




Commanders trade Pick #75 to Chiefs for Pick #77 and 7th Round (#222)




Seahawks trade Pick #81 to Buccaneers for Pick #92 and 4th Round (#125)




Eagles trade Pick #94 to Jaguars for Pick #96 and 6th Round (#212)




Packers trade Pick #98 to Ravens for two 4th Round (#113 and #130)


Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: ELA on April 24, 2024, 12:20:08 PM
FOURTH ROUND



Packers trade Pick #103 to Broncos for Pick #121 and 5th Round (#145)




Eagles trade Pick #120 to Titans for 5th Round (#146) and 6th Round (#182)




Commanders trade Pick #122 and 5th Round (#175) to Giants for Pick #127 and 5th Round (#166)




Seahawks trade Pick #125 and 6th Round (#192) to Chargers for two 5th Round (#140 and #164)


Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: ELA on April 24, 2024, 02:05:39 PM
Lions makes Amon-Ra St. Brown the highest paid WR in the NFL
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: ELA on April 24, 2024, 03:34:35 PM
FIFTH ROUND
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: ELA on April 24, 2024, 04:33:51 PM
Quote from: ELA on April 24, 2024, 02:05:39 PM
Lions makes Amon-Ra St. Brown the highest paid WR in the NFL
But also extended Penei Sewell for under expected
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 24, 2024, 05:50:02 PM
Bortolini cannot play center. That experiment failed last year. He can't long snap at all. He's a guard at the next level and will be a good one.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: ELA on April 24, 2024, 09:27:36 PM
SIXTH ROUND





Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 25, 2024, 08:55:08 AM
Chicago Bears reveal plans for $4.6 billion domed stadium on city's lakefront - Bear Digest (athlonsports.com) (https://athlonsports.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-digest/news/chicago-bears-reveal-plans-for-new-domed-stadium-on-citys-lakefront)

They are asking taxpayers to fund half of it. F them.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: Cincydawg on April 25, 2024, 08:56:54 AM
The stadium here was partially funded with a tax on hotels, the rest was paid by the Falcons, I think, which would be OK with me.

Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: FearlessF on April 25, 2024, 09:26:09 AM
if an owner wants help building a stadium or anything else

ask the other owners for help, have the NFL pitch in

or their own fans that support the team and enjoy the stadium

having a little old lady that has no interest in football living in Chicago or Illinois help fund it doesn't make sense
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: Cincydawg on April 25, 2024, 10:00:05 AM
An idea some mayors have is it will spur development and "pay for itself" etc. etc.  And of course a team may threaten to leave (Cincinnati).

I think Cincinnati mangled about as badly as it could be, but it was widely believed the city council got "funded".  The same happened with their streetcar, which has been abysmal as well.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: Mdot21 on April 25, 2024, 12:18:29 PM
Quote from: ELA on April 24, 2024, 02:05:39 PM
Lions makes Amon-Ra St. Brown the highest paid WR in the NFL
he's a great young player and great team guy- but is he really worthy of being the highest paid WR in the NFL? I don't really think so. don't get me wrong, I love the kid and I'm happy he's a Lion and is staying put for the foreseeable future, but that's like Megatron/Julio Jones type money- and I don't think he's remotely in the same class as those types of receivers. 
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: Mdot21 on April 25, 2024, 12:24:05 PM
I think JJ to the Vikings would be the ideal situation for him. Sit for a year behind Darnold, learn the system and then be ready to rock in 2025 with weapons like Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, and TJ Hockenson to throw to and an elite LT blocking up front for him. 
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: ELA on April 25, 2024, 01:55:36 PM
SEVENTH ROUND
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: Cincydawg on April 25, 2024, 04:52:32 PM
I'm idly interested in the draft, I suppose, mostly because of the "projections", which never seem to be on spot.  That isn't a shock.

I liked the movie "Draft Day" a lot.

I suppose folks bet on this stuff.  To the extent I care about it, I'm find with just reading a bit tomorrow when we have the results, ELA puts a lot of effort into this and I do appreciate that.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: Mdot21 on April 25, 2024, 08:40:02 PM
Bears take Caleb Williams, Washington takes Jayden Daniels, and Patriots take Drake Maye. 

All those situations suck for a young QB, I think. Definitely will be interesting to see what they all do. I think Bears might actually be the best situation of that group and yet they’ll still find a way to blow it, because: they are Da Bears. 
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 25, 2024, 09:25:20 PM
Poor Caleb. I mean, he's rich. But it sucks that his career is already over.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: FearlessF on April 25, 2024, 10:34:14 PM
when is the last time a QB in Minnesooota succeeded ???

they even killed Farve
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: ELA on April 25, 2024, 10:50:54 PM
Quote from: FearlessF on April 25, 2024, 10:34:14 PM
when is the last time a QB in Minnesooota succeeded ???

they even killed Farve
What is your definition of suceeded?  Minnesota has had a lot of good QB play over the past 30 years.  They might have had more different QBs succeed than any other franchise.  They havent won a Super Bowl, but finding QBs hasnt been their problem
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: ELA on April 25, 2024, 10:51:37 PM
Also, what is Atlanta doing?
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: FearlessF on April 25, 2024, 11:28:20 PM
Quote from: ELA on April 25, 2024, 10:50:54 PM
What is your definition of suceeded?  Minnesota has had a lot of good QB play over the past 30 years.  They might have had more different QBs succeed than any other franchise.  They havent won a Super Bowl, but finding QBs hasnt been their problem
playoff victories
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: Cincydawg on April 26, 2024, 07:21:40 AM
Quote from: ELA on April 25, 2024, 10:51:37 PM
Also, what is Atlanta doing?
Weird stuff usually.

I think any Falcons fans out there have to be mystified and frustrated, generally.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: MrNubbz on April 26, 2024, 08:04:28 AM
Quote from: ELA on April 25, 2024, 10:51:37 PM
Also, what is Atlanta doing?
Didn't they rob the US treasurey to give Cousins a new contract? Again this forum could come up with consensus picks that would routinely out perform the MOST NFL Front Offices
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: Cincydawg on April 26, 2024, 08:08:07 AM
A weird thing is that the Falcons owner has "deep pockets" (Arthur Blank of Home Depot fame).  The soccer team here does well, but of course that's very different.  He's not involved with the Braves.  And yes, they signed Cousins to a "lucrative" deal.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: MrNubbz on April 26, 2024, 08:22:32 AM
So I looked up pre draft analysis and evidently Atl needs pass rushers and they gave Cousins coin.Belichick's done some dumb stuff but if Penix doesn't pan out this could end in the Half Wits Hall of Fame pix.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: FearlessF on April 26, 2024, 08:24:39 AM
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 26, 2024, 08:04:28 AM
Didn't they rob the US treasurey to give Cousins a new contract? Again this forum could come up with consensus picks that would routinely out perform the MOST NFL Front Offices
having a back up plan for Cousins is a good thing
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: MrNubbz on April 26, 2024, 08:28:49 AM
Backing up the brinks truck to get him? - crazy. IMO the quintessential average NFL career QB. These guys may make Jimmy Hasbeen look decent...naw just kidding
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: FearlessF on April 26, 2024, 08:30:33 AM
that was a bad thing
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: Cincydawg on April 26, 2024, 08:40:50 AM
I would guess most Falcons fans are critical of the choices.  I don't pay much attention to them, or the NFL.  I overhear folks laughing about them at times.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: MrNubbz on April 26, 2024, 08:42:55 AM
Well at least they have gotten to the Super Bowl in my life
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: ELA on April 26, 2024, 10:24:00 AM
My Top 10 available going into Day 2


Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: Mdot21 on April 26, 2024, 04:09:05 PM
Quote from: FearlessF on April 25, 2024, 10:34:14 PM
when is the last time a QB in Minnesooota succeeded ???

they even killed Farve
Favre was like 60 years old when he played for the Vikings, and he had a phenomenal first season and was off to a nice start the next year until his body started breaking down and he fell off the cliff.

Cousins was a good starting QB, can’t say otherwise. Cousins never had the elite athleticism or arm talent- he’s done about as well as he can with what he has. He’s been a successful starting QB in the NFL. He’s just never been the very elite. Which is OK. Few get to that level. 

Of all the QBs taken in the 1st round, JJ McCarthy is by far going to the best situation. And a lot of times in the NFL, it’s all about the situation a QB walks into. Kevin O’Connell is a QB friendly coach, they have an elite young LT to protect the blindside, the best WR in the NFL, a very good TE in Hockenson, a really nice #2 WR coming off a great rookie year in Jordan Addison, and they signed one of the better RBs in the NFL in Aaron Jones. 

If I was betting money on which QB would have the most success within the first 2-3 years, I’d bet on JJ purely because of the situation he’s walking into. 
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: MarqHusker on April 26, 2024, 06:02:58 PM
Didn't Cunningham do alright that one year?
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: FearlessF on April 26, 2024, 07:00:38 PM
yup, until Gary Andersen missed his one kick of the entire season and put the Falcons in the super bowl
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 27, 2024, 09:18:17 AM
Chicago Bears told to 'pay for their own damn stadium' after proposal has taxpayers footing $2 billion | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/media/chicago-bears-told-pay-damn-stadium-proposal-taxpayers-footing-2-billion)

Not that I care anymore about Illinois and their tax machine, but this is a good start.

No taxpayer money should be spent on a team worth multiple billion, anywhere.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 27, 2024, 09:32:06 AM
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 26, 2024, 08:42:55 AM
Well at least they have gotten to the Super Bowl in my life
Twice!
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: MrNubbz on April 27, 2024, 09:45:01 AM
Duly noted gotten doesn't imply times
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: Mdot21 on April 27, 2024, 02:45:07 PM
Vikings got a very talented, very young QB (he’s a true jr still only 20 I believe) without having to give up the deed to the house and the most physically gifted/talented edge rusher in the draft as well.

They won day one of the draft imo.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: Mdot21 on April 29, 2024, 12:43:35 AM
IMichigan had 13 players drafted. Couple short of Georgia’s record and 7 short of the 20 Jeem predicted before the season.

Thoughts: OL Karsen Barnhart probably should’ve been drafted in like the 5th or 6th round. He’s a really good player with position versatility and tough as nails. He’ll make an NFL roster as a UDFA and stick around as a guard with flexibility to kick out to RT in a pinch.

EDGE Braiden McGregor probably shouldn’t have left and neither should’ve OL Trente Jones. They both were in and out of the lineup and only ever part time starters. This would’ve been their year to fill into full-time starter roles and really level up and put an entire season on tape of starting and improve their draft stock. McGregor could’ve catapulted way up draft boards in 2025 with a big 2024 season. Physically he’s everything NFL teams look for at EDGE but he never had the college production to match like Hutchinson did.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: FearlessF on April 29, 2024, 11:50:25 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/xV84z8x.jpeg)
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 29, 2024, 11:56:13 AM
Quote from: FearlessF on April 29, 2024, 11:50:25 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/xV84z8x.jpeg)
This is why the B1G needs to get into Florida and Georgia.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: FearlessF on April 29, 2024, 12:05:42 PM
and Texas?
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 29, 2024, 12:13:10 PM
Quote from: FearlessF on April 29, 2024, 12:05:42 PM
and Texas?
Too late now. That should have happened in 1990 when UT wanted in.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: ELA on April 29, 2024, 01:20:01 PM
Also, is that a one year anomaly, or is PA really slipping that much in football talent?

I'd also be curious as to how that is determined.  If you are a kid from Indiana, who plays his last 2 years at IMG, are you counted for Florida?
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 29, 2024, 01:50:32 PM
That's a good question.

JC Latham was from Wisconsin and then went to IMG for his last two years and blew up. Ended up at Bama. #7 overall pick.

JC Latham, IMG Academy, Offensive Tackle (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/player/jc-latham-46049894/high-school-208863/)

This says he's from Florida, but he's really not. Never showed any interest in going to Wisconsin. Never took a visit. Kinda weird.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: FearlessF on April 29, 2024, 01:51:04 PM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 29, 2024, 12:13:10 PM
Too late now. That should have happened in 1990 when UT wanted in.
agreed, but if you're looking at Georgia Tech to step into Georgia

SMU, Baylor and others are available to get a footprint into the lone star state
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 29, 2024, 02:01:34 PM
Hard pass on the remaining Texas schools.

GT would be a great addition to the academic consortium too. Their stadium would always be full. People like to go to Atlanta - especially that area. CDawg is right there too, as an attraction.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: ELA on April 29, 2024, 02:13:29 PM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 29, 2024, 02:01:34 PM
Hard pass on the remaining Texas schools.
How big of a check does the ghost of Ann Richards need to write?
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: MrNubbz on April 29, 2024, 02:48:57 PM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 29, 2024, 12:13:10 PM
Too late now. That should have happened in 1990 when UT wanted in.
I don't remember that like they were actaully considering it?That was before the interwebz and star trek flip phones so I don't recall
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: MrNubbz on April 29, 2024, 02:52:55 PM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 29, 2024, 02:01:34 PM
People like to go to Atlanta - especially that area. CDawg is right there too, as an attraction.
Who wants to visit Phil Niekro's washed up son throw knucklers like they're shot puts. Got arthritis in both elbows from bumping around the minors and resting them on wet bar tops. Moonlighting as some sort of chemist
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 29, 2024, 03:16:41 PM
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 29, 2024, 02:48:57 PM
I don't remember that like they were actaully considering it?That was before the interwebz and star trek flip phones so I don't recall
After they took PSU and whiffed on ND, Delany and the Presidents put a moratorium on further expansion. That ruled out UT's interest/application being considered. Then they whiffed on ND again in 1999.

Big mistake not taking Texas when they were available.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: ELA on May 16, 2024, 10:53:07 AM
https://twitter.com/JoePompliano/status/1791081717555482648?t=r5UeoNpht2YHWGklWALA6A&s=19
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: ELA on May 16, 2024, 03:25:35 PM
https://twitter.com/PFTCommenter/status/1790738900413034699?t=ExXN6AWrUwIgLOK-TFpx7g&s=19
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: Mdot21 on May 16, 2024, 06:03:25 PM
can't remember the last time I was this excited about a Lions season starting. Loved that they were able to get Carlton Davis who is still only 27 years old and draft Terrion Arnold in the 1st round and then Ennis Rakestraw in the 2nd round to address the most obvious glaring weakness they had last year on defense- which was their CB's.

This seems like a make or break year for Jameson Williams. He needs to really level up and really take off and unleash that speed this year- and if he does that- the Lions are going to be fun as hell to watch.
Title: Re: 2024 NFL Season
Post by: ELA on May 17, 2024, 12:36:45 AM
Quote from: Mdot21 on May 16, 2024, 06:03:25 PM
can't remember the last time I was this excited about a Lions season starting. Loved that they were able to get Carlton Davis who is still only 27 years old and draft Terrion Arnold in the 1st round and then Ennis Rakestraw in the 2nd round to address the most obvious glaring weakness they had last year on defense- which was their CB's.

This seems like a make or break year for Jameson Williams. He needs to really level up and really take off and unleash that speed this year- and if he does that- the Lions are going to be fun as hell to watch.
14 of 17 games indoors too.  Considering you have to play at Chicago and at Green Bay every year, thats about as good as it gets one youve paid Goff