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Title: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 29, 2024, 07:37:45 AM
Since some of us old dudes make some effort to "work out" and "lose weight", maybe we could share some ideas that work for us.

My idea is to go vegan, swear off alcohol, swim a mile a day, run 5 miles a day, and go to the gym every day.
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: LittlePig on February 29, 2024, 08:31:20 AM
Since some of us old dudes make some effort to "work out" and "lose weight", maybe we could share some ideas that work for us.

My idea is to go vegan, swear off alcohol, swim a mile a day, run 5 miles a day, and go to the gym every day.
I only have 4 to go on that list.  I like the idea of swimming but I could never run 5 miles a day.  My knees and shins and hips just won't let me.  I did not consciously give up drinking,  I just sort of stopped late in life.  It would have been much better for my health and weight if I gave up drinking 20 years ago.

I could try the vegan thing.  I  have friends tell me they have lost weight switching to a Vegan diet.  I grew up on a farm,  so I have stubbornly refused to give up meat to support an old way of thinking.  Now I am finally conceding it might be good for my health to switch to a more plant based diet.  But I really like meat.
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: FearlessF on February 29, 2024, 08:38:19 AM
My idea isn't nearly that aggressive. 

Fewer carbs, more salads.

Swear off full blown drunken episodes. 
Just get moderately drunk 

10,000 steps a day and some stretching. 

Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: MrNubbz on February 29, 2024, 09:32:56 AM
Too much work opening up this thread - i'm winded


FF "10,000 steps a day and some stretching"

Reaching for Havanas,Clubs & Bud Fats no doubt


Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 29, 2024, 09:35:34 AM
Speaking of stretching, folks might try pilates (or reformer).  It includes mostly stretching a bit differently than I ever knew to do.

I still do some of the exercises she showed me.  
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 29, 2024, 12:28:55 PM
I couldn't make it to my stretch class this morning due to a Teams meeting.

I'll go do my own thing later this afternoon, when the gym is less crowded.
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 29, 2024, 01:14:32 PM
My idea is to go vegan, swear off alcohol, swim a mile a day, run 5 miles a day, and go to the gym every day.
I know you're not serious...

...but I wonder. How long do you think you could keep that up?
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: LetsGoPeay on February 29, 2024, 01:21:59 PM
I try to do cardio twice a day on weekdays and once on Saturdays. I'll either do a four-mile run or a half hour on the treadmill at 3.5mph with a 15.0 incline. If I'm not feeling the run on a given day, I'll do the treadmill twice. I also lift six days a week. I walk a lot with my job. I usually like to get outside as much as possible and go for walks, go golfing, or do some yardwork. In terms of diet: I try to stay away from absolute crap food most of the time and do more high protein food with limited complex carbs. We usually do pizza night once a week. I stick to light beer or wine most nights. 
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 29, 2024, 01:26:25 PM
I know you're not serious...

...but I wonder. How long do you think you could keep that up?
Maybe a day or two, I just said it was my idea .... not that I do it.

Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 29, 2024, 01:59:55 PM
Related to CD's post, I think one of the key mistakes a lot of people make is doing too many things at once. Things that they can't sustain. 

Whereas I think when you're bullding habits, the most important thing the first month is to do more than nothing. In the second month, do more than that. In the third month, do even more. You'll find by the sixth month you're doing WAY more than you thought, but if you try to jump the line to that sixth-month level of activity, you'll burn out. 

We got the Peloton bike in June 2022. For the first 8 months, I basically only did cycling and stretching. I was certainly ramping up the length/difficulty/frequency of rides during that time, but all I was doing was riding. 

Last Feb I added strength. Some times I'd do a set program which is 30 minutes a day, 5 days, over a 7 day span. Other times I'd just do 20-minute weights classes two days in a row (alternating muscle groups) with several days in between doing those sets. And I'd do core, but intermittently. I counted the stats and from Feb-Dec 2023 I did a total of 130 weights classes and 48 core, so out of ~330 days I did 178 workouts, or averaging one every other day. I kept riding and adding in longer duration rides. I averaged one ride of 75 minutes or longer per month (Peloton offers 75/90/120), with an average ride duration of just over 40 minutes. That got me to >15K annual minutes tracked. 

This year I've decided to do core every day, so I've got 59 core classes (I took yesterday off due to my streak) and in a short while I'll have hit my 21st weights class, or roughly the same 1-in-3 days that I was doing for weights in 2023. I've increased my goal to 2 rides of 75 minutes or longer per month, which I'm already on track with three 90s and one 120. 

So when I got the bike, I was mostly doing 20- or 30-minute rides, several days a week, and basically nothing else except stretching. Whereas today I already did 20 minutes of core, will do 20 minutes upper body, will do a 45- or 60-minute ride (haven't decided what ride yet), and if I don't get too lazy, take a stretch class (probably 10 min). 

Admittedly that (85 to potentially 110 minutes in total) is a "heavy" day for me, but not really all that uncommon. I balance that with days that will only be 10- or 20-minute days, with the commitment of getting above ~41 average per day (to hit a 15K annual minute challenge) and a stretch goal of getting up to ~55 average (to hit a 20K annual minute challenge). 

If I had started out at this level, I'd have burned out in a month. But by gradually increasing, the increased activity just seems normal. 
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: LetsGoPeay on February 29, 2024, 02:12:10 PM
My flexibility is awful. I'm trying to make a point to do yoga and/or stretching every Sunday. As I get better with it I want to replace one midweek day of lifting with another yoga/stretching session. 
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 29, 2024, 02:21:12 PM
Whereas I think when you're bullding habits, the most important thing the first month is to do more than nothing. In the second month, do more than that. In the third month, do even more. You'll find by the sixth month you're doing WAY more than you thought, but if you try to jump the line to that sixth-month level of activity, you'll burn out.
Great advice I think, I bet most of us have started out with good intentions and "over done it" and been unable to sustain, or even had an injury as a result.
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: ELA on February 29, 2024, 03:39:29 PM
My problem is when I try to eat less meat, I end up overcompensating with pasta.

I've tried this year to switch to just lean cuts of chicken and pork, and limit red meat.

Every time I try to cut down on alcohol, one of my kids does something that makes me realize that ain't happening til they are out
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: ELA on February 29, 2024, 03:41:37 PM
My flexibility is awful. I'm trying to make a point to do yoga and/or stretching every Sunday. As I get better with it I want to replace one midweek day of lifting with another yoga/stretching session.
My cholesterol raised a yellow flag for the first time this year, and the doctor said stretching is the one underrated thing to reduce it, that nobody seems to do.
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 29, 2024, 03:56:35 PM
Interesting.  Did not know that. I’m on a statin though my number was 201. 
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 29, 2024, 05:24:35 PM
Yeah, I'm on a statin for the first time, since about a month ago. I think it was 160??

It's weird, because I eat better now than I ever have.
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: ELA on February 29, 2024, 05:30:29 PM
Yeah, I'm on a statin for the first time, since about a month ago. I think it was 160??

It's weird, because I eat better now than I ever have.
They put me on one when my LDL was in the 150s, because I'm only 40, and it spiked out of nowhere.  They said, either your diet drastically changed, or you have a genetics issue, that we might as well get in front of.  My dad has it, so not a surprise.

I've never exercized more.  Since we went back post COVID shutdown, I work from home 3 days a week.  I jog 3 miles a day on those 3 days, plus weekends.  Then I spend another 20 minutes or so at night doing stretching and calisthenics.  Only real diet change in that time, is that being at home, with 3 young kids, there are a lot of tempting snacks around.  I never kept Cheez Its in my office.  So I definitely snack more during the day.  But my meals and alcohol intake have been roughly the same, and exercize has increased.
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 29, 2024, 05:43:22 PM
I need to go see a doctor. Haven't had a checkup nor had my labs drawn since, I think, pre-COVID. And I turned 45 last year so I understand I might have some additional things that need to get checked out. 

That said I should be good cholesterol-wise. My dad never had any issue in his life. He's morbidly obese and ate badly, and he said the only time his was over 200 he ate a couple Big Macs on his way to the Dr (on what should have been a fasting draw I believe). Mine has always tested low as well. 

I don't want to know what they'll say about my liver tho...
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 29, 2024, 08:51:28 PM
I don't health or exercise.
I'm 43, fat, and I've seen a medical professional 3 times in my adult life (all urgent care), for
1 - high ankle sprain
2 - ear infection
3 - plantar fasciitis 

I keep meaning to acquire a personal physician.  
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: FearlessF on February 29, 2024, 08:58:03 PM
blonde or brunette ?
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: ELA on February 29, 2024, 11:08:21 PM
Interesting.  Did not know that. I’m on a statin though my number was 201.
If you put your beer and the remote slightly out of reach, that's also stretching
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: Cincydawg on March 01, 2024, 07:21:17 AM
I happened across a doctor here I like a lot, he's very down to earth.  The office is three blocks away.  My wife nags me about the annual, so I do it, I might anyway really, it's no big deal to me.

I asked him about the RSV vaccine and he said he was a vaccine advocate, but not in this case for me.  I went to him when I was always out of breath and he spotted the heart arrythmia (not that it was hard to spot) and got me into the ER.  He showed me his "pocket EKG" item and suggested I get one, which I did.  It displays your heart beat on your phone like an EKG, it's pretty neat really, so if I ever have some hint of something I can check it in seconds.

That was the first time I ever spent a night in the hospital (for observation, in a bed built for folks who are 5'9").  I think going to a dentist is also important for your overall health, or so I read.  
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 01, 2024, 09:16:01 AM
Being adopted, I have no family history of anything. When I have to fill out those family history things at the doctor's office, it's easy. Just have to write one word.
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: MaximumSam on March 01, 2024, 09:18:07 AM
My cholesterol raised a yellow flag for the first time this year, and the doctor said stretching is the one underrated thing to reduce it, that nobody seems to do.
Never heard that at all, but it makes a certain amount of sense
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: Cincydawg on March 01, 2024, 09:20:22 AM
Are You Stretching Enough? (physioplushealth.com) (https://physioplushealth.com/are-you-stretching-enough/#:~:text=Stretching regularly helps reduce cholesterol,to high levels of cholesterol.)

Lowering Your High Cholesterol: 6 Exercises That Will Pay Off (healthline.com) (https://www.healthline.com/health/high-cholesterol/treating-with-statins/best-exercises#Best-exercises-for-lowering-cholesterol)

Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 02, 2024, 12:22:56 AM
Yes, stretch!

Stretchhh (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edd17-U-5Zo)
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: FearlessF on March 02, 2024, 08:03:05 AM
I'll be doing some stretching at the golf course this afternoon

and getting some steps

and some 12 oz curls
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 02, 2024, 08:06:48 AM
Today is leg day. I hate leg days.
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: FearlessF on March 02, 2024, 08:09:51 AM
I enjoy glancing at the legs of some of the young women at the gym

but, not enuff to actually go there regularly
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 02, 2024, 08:15:51 AM
I enjoy glancing at the legs of some of the young women at the gym

but, not enuff to actually go there regularly
I don't know what that is.
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: FearlessF on March 02, 2024, 08:21:05 AM
might be going to the wrong place
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: Cincydawg on March 02, 2024, 08:26:16 AM
I see folks from the Atlanta Track Club about once a week over on the "track", about half are ladies about 20 or so.  They are in good shape.

I will be slogging alone and hear the group of 5 or so guys coming up behind me and get out of their way.  I sort of remember being able to run like that, or close to it.  They are fast.

I saw some dude recently broke the 400 m indoor record, 44 seconds and change.  Obviously that's four 11 second hundreds, which is pretty fast, back to back to back to back.
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 02, 2024, 08:27:35 AM
might be going to the wrong place
We bring the average age down quite a bit around here...
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: Cincydawg on March 02, 2024, 08:52:13 AM
That is a thing I don't care for in Florida, obviously there are a lot of old folks.  It made me feel old when we were out and about.  My wife made the same comment.
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: Riffraft on March 02, 2024, 09:27:42 AM
I have lost 45lb over the last 8 months. Slow and steady to hope to ultimately maintain after losing another 15lbs.

I intermittent fast 18-6 and generally restrict carbs but not religiously.  I am losing with a lifestyle I can live with and not a diet where I feel deprived.
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: FearlessF on March 02, 2024, 09:36:40 AM
well done

keep it up
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 02, 2024, 10:59:30 AM
I have lost 45lb over the last 8 months. Slow and steady to hope to ultimately maintain after losing another 15lbs.

I intermittent fast 18-6 and generally restrict carbs but not religiously.  I am losing with a lifestyle I am live with and not a diet where I fill deprived.
I'm about the same - 41 pounds now. Shooting for another 30-40. I was WAY too heavy for my height. 5'-8". Did not look good at all.
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: Cincydawg on March 04, 2024, 07:35:48 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/jHMeLJ0.png)
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: Kris60 on March 04, 2024, 12:53:05 PM
I’ve lost about 17 pounds in the last month or so.  Not doing anything earth shattering. Really trying to cut out sweets and reduce my carb intake.  Just eat more protein and green vegetables.  My diet had nowhere to go but up though.  It was as poor as you can imagine.

I exercise regularly, usually about 6 days a week.  One day  I lift, the next is strictly cardio.  My cardio go to is stairmaster.  But even when I lift there is cardio element to it.  I do a total body workout where I jump from one exercise to another.  I don’t take 3-5 minutes between sets.
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 04, 2024, 01:02:27 PM
I’ve lost about 17 pounds in the last month or so.  Not doing anything earth shattering. Really trying to cut out sweets and reduce my carb intake.  Just eat more protein and green vegetables.  My diet had nowhere to go but up though.  It was as poor as you can imagine.

I exercise regularly, usually about 6 days a week.  One day  I lift, the next is strictly cardio.  My cardio go to is stairmaster.  But even when I lift there is cardio element to it.  I do a total body workout where I jump from one exercise to another.  I don’t take 3-5 minutes between sets.
Congrats! Sounds like a pretty big overhaul. 

Only thing I'd say is that 17 pounds in a month or so is likely WAY too fast. If you end up in too much of a calorie deficit it can totally eff up your metabolism. There have been studies on The Biggest Loser contestants that show that they've ended up with persistent metabolism slowdowns years after the competition. You should target no more than a 1-2 pound per week rate, based on everything I've seen. 

Now... One thing might mean that 17 pounds in the first month isn't a problem... I've always noticed transitioning from a diet with carbs to one without, that there is an immediate weight loss of 5-10 lbs in the first week because carbs cause your body to retain more water.

So if the bulk of that weight loss happened the first week--that's just water and nothing to worry about. But if you're seeing weight continue to come off that quickly, you need to eat more and slow that rate down. 
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: FearlessF on March 04, 2024, 04:40:31 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/8C1ZQAk.png)
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 12, 2024, 05:25:29 PM
As I've said, I'm not really focusing on weight loss with my current fitness journey. 

That said, I just saw 249.4 on the scale today. That's the first time I've been below 250 since 2016. 

So that's nice. 
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: LetsGoPeay on March 13, 2024, 09:01:16 AM
Congratulations!
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 13, 2024, 03:30:13 PM
I hit a milestone today. Peloton workout #1000!

I've had the bike since June 2022, and in that time I've racked up 380 rides, 337 strength workouts, 241 stretches, and a smattering of other modalities to round it out for the cool thou.

I think I'm pretty much the most fit that I've ever been since the age of 18. I'm even starting to have abs... Ones you can actually see, not just hidden behind the blubber!
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: MrNubbz on April 13, 2024, 04:10:33 PM
There's a lot of doctors tell me
That I'd better start slowing it down
But there's more old drunks than there are old doctors
So I guess we better have another round
-Willie Nelson
Title: Re: OT - The health and exercise thread
Post by: MrNubbz on April 13, 2024, 04:14:07 PM
I don't health or exercise.
I'm 43, fat, and I've seen a medical professional 3 times in my adult life (all urgent care), for
1 - high ankle sprain
2 - ear infection
3 - plantar fasciitis

I keep meaning to acquire a personal physician. 
What about the hallucinations?  ;D for some strange odd reason this thread doesn't interest me much either