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Title: saban retiring
Post by: rolltidefan on January 10, 2024, 05:31:29 PM
https://twitter.com/clowespn/status/1745205496099766573?t=BSE5BwaVHJxKdthA8a5nLA
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 10, 2024, 05:48:55 PM
Miss Terry told him it was time, eh?
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Mdot21 on January 10, 2024, 06:02:39 PM
will be very interesting to see who they hire to replace an irreplaceable icon. 
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 10, 2024, 06:04:22 PM
the college football gods have finally answered the prayers of the fan-masses, the sport thankfully sheds a violent dictator today
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MrNubbz on January 10, 2024, 06:07:05 PM
https://twitter.com/clowespn/status/1745205496099766573?t=BSE5BwaVHJxKdthA8a5nLA
did you see the one tweet
There is one man for the job

(https://i.imgur.com/g1Xv9CT.png)
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: utee94 on January 10, 2024, 06:31:09 PM
the college football gods have finally answered the prayers of the fan-masses, the sport thankfully sheds a violent dictator today

Ha!  Probably the reaction of much of the college football fandom.

I say, "Congrats and good luck to the GOAT.  He certainly earned his time off."

Definitely going to be interesting to see who they get to replace him.  A lot of coaches and agents are about to make a lot of money on salary increases/extensions.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MikeDeTiger on January 10, 2024, 06:45:17 PM
Wish this would've happened when I still cared a lot more.  
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 10, 2024, 07:05:38 PM
the college football gods have finally answered the prayers of the fan-masses, the sport thankfully sheds a violent dictator today
Belichick might be available. Go straight from Vader to Palpatine...
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Mdot21 on January 10, 2024, 07:08:26 PM
getting serious for a second....I think if I'm Bama the first dude I'm calling is Dan Lanning at Oregon. 
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MaximumSam on January 10, 2024, 07:22:14 PM
getting serious for a second....I think if I'm Bama the first dude I'm calling is Dan Lanning at Oregon.
I would agree, though if I'm Lanning I'm thinking long and hard before going to a meat grinder to try and replace Saban when he could get paid the same where he is
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: utee94 on January 10, 2024, 07:27:15 PM
Everyone knows you can't replace a legend.  The next coach at Alabama is pretty much doomed.  
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MrNubbz on January 10, 2024, 07:30:18 PM
I would agree, though if I'm Lanning I'm thinking long and hard before going to a meat grinder to try and replace Saban when he could get paid the same where he is
With NIKE money for NIL that prolly was the straw that broke the backin St Nick's case - as it might for fanhood
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on January 10, 2024, 08:28:09 PM
Everyone knows you can't replace a legend.  The next coach at Alabama is pretty much doomed. 
Yeah, you could be an extremely good coach and still not come close to matching that legacy
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: SuperMario on January 10, 2024, 08:31:29 PM
With NIKE money for NIL that prolly was the straw that broke the backin St Nick's case - as it might for fanhood
Yep. Money has been destroying relatable players for a while now. Growing up there were two Browns players that lived in the condo complex in Brook Park that my cousin lived in. Great guys. One had a warehouse job in the off-season. Was just like our family. Nowadays, an average athlete will make $ in a year that most take a lifetime to make.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: ELA on January 10, 2024, 08:50:26 PM
https://twitter.com/PregameEmpire/status/1745214636822020296?t=ftAYltuW3zb6obQ-UwmjfA&s=19
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: ELA on January 10, 2024, 09:10:42 PM
I said a decade ago that any college coach who turned down NFL options was an idiot.  And that was before NIL and the portal.  Now, you would have to be totally brain dead.  Supporting a college team is on par with supporting a highschool team.  It actually might be worse
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: bayareabadger on January 10, 2024, 09:21:25 PM
Everyone knows you can't replace a legend.  The next coach at Alabama is pretty much doomed. 
Hello, Lane
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: FearlessF on January 10, 2024, 09:21:41 PM
see ya Nick!
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MrNubbz on January 10, 2024, 10:47:47 PM
Yep. Money has been destroying relatable players for a while now. Nowadays, an average athlete will make $ in a year that most take a lifetime to make.
Recruiting duties have always somewhat favored coaching in the NFL over CFB as an a additional irksome task. Now with the portal and NIL the absolute ass kissing & hiney shining has to be revolting to contemplate and practice.This bag of snakes belongs in Roger Goodells lap and shouldn't rest with the Universities - the League benefits from it
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 10, 2024, 10:53:28 PM
Saban retires with the same career win% as Nebraska's Bob Devaney......but with twice the volume and 3x the NCs.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MarqHusker on January 10, 2024, 11:28:16 PM
Saban retires with the same career win% as Nebraska's Bob Devaney......but with twice the volume and 3x the NCs.
...and both coached at Michigan State, though Bob was an Asst. Coach.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Entropy on January 10, 2024, 11:29:02 PM
Saban just realized his bag money men no longer were an advantage... 
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Kris60 on January 10, 2024, 11:44:08 PM
Saban retires with the same career win% as Nebraska's Bob Devaney......but with twice the volume and 3x the NCs.
A friend sent forwarded me a tweet from someone that showed Saban had more first round draft picks at Bama than losses.  I mean, that’s dumb.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 10, 2024, 11:49:00 PM
Dabo makes the most sense. 
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 11, 2024, 01:06:47 AM
Yep. Money has been destroying relatable players for a while now. Growing up there were two Browns players that lived in the condo complex in Brook Park that my cousin lived in. Great guys. One had a warehouse job in the off-season. Was just like our family. Nowadays, an average athlete will make $ in a year that most take a lifetime to make.
If you don't like it...

...turn off the TV. 
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MrNubbz on January 11, 2024, 01:41:04 AM
Just as easy for you to ignore his comment also - one can enjoy football but not like what it's morphing in to. Last I checked this a comment section,with some lamenting if we all ignored each others bitching wouldn't be much of a website
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 11, 2024, 05:13:14 AM
https://twitter.com/CFB_Memezone/status/1745264103856185831?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1745264103856185831%7Ctwgr%5Efeff92b38d55b41c8fbf81ccaf40df1e9b55b83b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.elevenwarriors.com%2Fforum%2Fcollege-sports%2F2024%2F01%2F144773%2Falabama-s-next-head-coach
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 11, 2024, 05:13:54 AM
https://twitter.com/dmarcoveli/status/1745268017087369432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1745268017087369432%7Ctwgr%5Efeff92b38d55b41c8fbf81ccaf40df1e9b55b83b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.elevenwarriors.com%2Fforum%2Fcollege-sports%2F2024%2F01%2F144773%2Falabama-s-next-head-coach
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MrNubbz on January 11, 2024, 07:03:49 AM
I dunno,2 seasons with the Ducks and an assistant to Kirby Smart doesn't spell Whiz Kid.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Temp430 on January 11, 2024, 07:18:24 AM
Saban just realized his bag money men no longer were an advantage...
Exactly.  NIL is starting to cut into Alabama's advantage.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MrNubbz on January 11, 2024, 07:20:57 AM
Prove it,he just won more NCs in 17 yrs than UM did in 75,LOL
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Temp430 on January 11, 2024, 07:25:46 AM
It's been 10 years since Ohio State won a National Championship.  Are they still relevant?
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 11, 2024, 07:36:28 AM
https://twitter.com/dmarcoveli/status/1745268017087369432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1745268017087369432%7Ctwgr%5Efeff92b38d55b41c8fbf81ccaf40df1e9b55b83b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.elevenwarriors.com%2Fforum%2Fcollege-sports%2F2024%2F01%2F144773%2Falabama-s-next-head-coach
I wonder if he'll use a fake southern accent.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MrNubbz on January 11, 2024, 07:49:16 AM
It's been 10 years since Ohio State won a National Championship.  Are they still relevant?
it's been barely 10 weeks since the cheating story got out,clutch your pearls.Oh and that's 9 yrs if you're counting
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: SuperMario on January 11, 2024, 07:50:13 AM
If you don't like it...

...turn off the TV.
Honestly, I have. I watch less baseball and go to less games than I ever have. Same with the NBA. I turn on the Browns when it fits in the schedule, but I prioritize family time and events over the games.

I just dislike the transition it’s been since I was a kid. Growing up, these events were wrapped in as part of life. For my kids, it will be something that’s brought in a couple times a year.

I did make plenty of time for Michigan football this year lol.. was a good time for a final run before the entire college football product falls apart at the seams.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: FearlessF on January 11, 2024, 09:41:10 AM
fine with me if Bama and Oregon take a step down
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Badger1969 on January 11, 2024, 10:35:00 AM
I wonder how many Bama players will enter the transfer portal?  I think this might give the Badgers a 50/50 chance of winng the Alabama vs Wisconsin game this year.  Lol
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Mdot21 on January 11, 2024, 10:46:54 AM
Yeah, you could be an extremely good coach and still not come close to matching that legacy
Yup. As Ryan Day is finding out right now in trying to replace Urbz. 

Urbz won a Natty and never lost to Michigan. Ryan Day can’t beat Michigan and Michigan just won the Natty. Homie is coaching for his job in 2024. Better win THE GAME or he’s probably finito.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Mdot21 on January 11, 2024, 11:03:33 AM
https://twitter.com/PregameEmpire/status/1745214636822020296?t=ftAYltuW3zb6obQ-UwmjfA&s=19
there isn’t a more sh*t highly paid “elite” coach in the game than Franklin nor a bigger assclown “journalist” in sports tabloid media than Pete Thamel. Both of those donkeys suck at their jobs.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: FearlessF on January 11, 2024, 11:13:59 AM
Saban retires with the same career win% as Nebraska's Bob Devaney......but with twice the volume and 3x the NCs.
(https://i.imgur.com/8kgzk6l.png)
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 11, 2024, 11:30:18 AM
Just as easy for you to ignore his comment also - one can enjoy football but not like what it's morphing in to. Last I checked this a comment section,with some lamenting if we all ignored each others bitching wouldn't be much of a website
Honestly, I have. I watch less baseball and go to less games than I ever have. Same with the NBA. I turn on the Browns when it fits in the schedule, but I prioritize family time and events over the games.

I just dislike the transition it’s been since I was a kid. Growing up, these events were wrapped in as part of life. For my kids, it will be something that’s brought in a couple times a year.

I did make plenty of time for Michigan football this year lol.. was a good time for a final run before the entire college football product falls apart at the seams.

Sorry, my comment came across differently than I intended. It wasn't meant to be an "if you don't like it, don't watch" statement. And it certainly wasn't personally directed at @SuperMario (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1596) with that sort of connotation in mind. However I can see how it came across that way. 

What I was trying to get across is that it's easy to lament the massive amount of money in sports but you have to also recognize that the money is there because there's massive fan interest in sports. And that the way to get money out of sports is to have less/no fan interest. I.e. fans "turning off the TV", not going to games, not buying merch, etc. 

We can all think it's crazy how much money is going on, but when run of the mill NFL regular-season games get 17M viewers to justify high-dollar advertisement sales on the broadcast, well, that's why there's all that money... 
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: HailHailMSP on January 11, 2024, 11:34:09 AM
it's been barely 10 weeks since the cheating story got out,clutch your pearls.Oh and that's 9 yrs if you're counting
You seem quite bitter and angry around the clock. Maybe some yoga or JJ McCarthy meditation would help...Just an idea.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: utee94 on January 11, 2024, 11:35:43 AM
Darrel K Royal had 3 NCs but only 187 wins.  Idiot Texas boosters ran him off before his time, he was only 52 years old when he retired.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: HailHailMSP on January 11, 2024, 11:37:37 AM
As ELA predicted Franklin's name was leaked as frontrunner by Thamel. Same for Marcus Freeman too.

Lanning is a logical frontrunner, but $20million buyout. And Phil Knight has some Tiger Woods savings now that he can front to Lanning to match the offer. And who really wants to follow the king. Destined for failure. Dabo would probably race to the job if called upon. Norvell? That would be another Bama blow to FSU.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Temp430 on January 11, 2024, 11:38:52 AM
Oregon's Lanning is one of those rumored to replace Saban.    One wonders how many of Oregon's blue chip players would follow him to the deep South.  Big culture change.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MrNubbz on January 11, 2024, 11:49:19 AM
You seem quite bitter and angry around the clock. Maybe some yoga or JJ McCarthy meditation would help...Just an idea.
Bitter,No but when you're Michigan and win an outright National Championship about every time Haley's Comet comes around I understand your skewed views.Ring me up when the posse arrives and JJ's busy making sure pops isn't playing grab ass with his squeeze so no time for that
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: bayareabadger on January 11, 2024, 01:30:30 PM
https://twitter.com/CFB_Memezone/status/1745264103856185831?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1745264103856185831%7Ctwgr%5Efeff92b38d55b41c8fbf81ccaf40df1e9b55b83b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.elevenwarriors.com%2Fforum%2Fcollege-sports%2F2024%2F01%2F144773%2Falabama-s-next-head-coach
So fake. 
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: utee94 on January 11, 2024, 01:48:22 PM
Oregon's Lanning is one of those rumored to replace Saban.    One wonders how many of Oregon's blue chip players would follow him to the deep South.  Big culture change.
Current rumors are that Lanning has turned them down.  They've most likely moved on to DeBoer.

Also rumors that the first call they made, was to Sarkisian, who politely told them "no thanks" while at the same time telling Texas "bring me the Brinks Truck."
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MikeDeTiger on January 11, 2024, 02:07:35 PM
Oregon/Lanning has already released a pretty emphatic video package that he isn't going anywhere.  Major balls on his part if he's still really in play.  I suspect he's not, though I suspect Alabama's interest was real.  He probably used them for a raise. 

Kiffin is the obvious choice, I think, but I hear there are some big money guys at Bama that Lane pissed off so badly back in the day that they'll never get past his Joey Freshwater days.  Don't know if it's true. 

Taking a run at Deboer and Norvell couldn't hurt anything.  I get the Sark rumors, and I'm sure Alabama contacted him through back channels just to kick the tires and get a better sense of their options, but really, I can't imagine Sark leaving, and I can't imagine Bama believing he would.  Like I said, it's one of those things you do to say you covered your bases.  
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: utee94 on January 11, 2024, 02:17:44 PM
 I get the Sark rumors, and I'm sure Alabama contacted him through back channels just to kick the tires and get a better sense of their options, but really, I can't imagine Sark leaving, and I can't imagine Bama believing he would.  Like I said, it's one of those things you do to say you covered your bases. 
Oh yeah, they'd be silly to NOT give Sark a call and see if there's any interest.  No harm done there.  I don't think anyone ever expected he'd be a legitimate candidate.

And Sark was already going to receive an extension and raise, after this past successful season and seeing the general trend of the program.  But I have no doubt that his agent let Texas know about a phone call from Tuscaloosa, and that both Sark and his agent will be getting a little more than they otherwise would have, were Saban not retiring.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 11, 2024, 02:31:20 PM
I dunno,2 seasons with the Ducks and an assistant to Kirby Smart doesn't spell Whiz Kid.

To quote myself from two months ago re: Lanning - IMO, I don't think he's as good as coaching at Oregon makes him appear:

"No matter how good Lanning is appearing at Oregon, I DON’T believe Lanning will be much of a step up from Mark Stoops at Kentucky or Shane Beamer at South Carolina.

One reason to point out is how Oregon conversely makes coaches look better than they turn out elsewhere. I say ‘conversely’ because a resource-rich program like Texas A&M can be held back by a plateaued coach like Jimbo Fisher. But rarely is this dynamic reversed where it’s the program that uplifts and gets the most out of the coach, not the other way around.

We’re witnessing a decade of coaches moving on from Oregon and never finding the success at higher profile opportunities that they had as Ducks – Chip Kelly at UCLA/Eagles, Mark Helfrich (never mind), Willie Taggart at Florida State, Mario Cristobal at Miami.

Meanwhile, Oregon remains a consistently fine program."


A little surprised Lanning turned down Bama if that's the case. Also surprised Kiffin wasn't/isn't solicited more for Texas A&M/Bama.

Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: SuperMario on January 11, 2024, 03:42:53 PM
Sorry, my comment came across differently than I intended. It wasn't meant to be an "if you don't like it, don't watch" statement. And it certainly wasn't personally directed at @SuperMario (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1596) with that sort of connotation in mind. However I can see how it came across that way.

I actually didn't take it that was and then once our buddy Nubbz chimed in like that I figured I'd respond and just add a personal take to it. I didn't take it personally so to respond similar to your need to respond, I hope my response didn't come across as being offended lol. I was more just adding context of saying I actually do watch it less because of the money inflow and I'm ok with it but also annoyed how money can truly ruin a lot of good things when it drives peoples decisions. 
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Mdot21 on January 11, 2024, 04:12:28 PM
https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1745251043061993503?s=20
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Mdot21 on January 11, 2024, 04:15:29 PM
https://twitter.com/JacksackPhD/status/1745232863262396618?s=20
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Mdot21 on January 11, 2024, 04:19:43 PM
https://twitter.com/BengalYouTube/status/1745340421998309733?s=20
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: FearlessF on January 11, 2024, 04:20:55 PM
Joel ain't too good at readin
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: SuperMario on January 11, 2024, 04:36:10 PM
Current rumors are that Lanning has turned them down.  They've most likely moved on to DeBoer.

Also rumors that the first call they made, was to Sarkisian, who politely told them "no thanks" while at the same time telling Texas "bring me the Brinks Truck."

I didn't want to put it out there yet, but since it's well known now it seems, Lanning is not leaving Oregon. I have a very good friend that has been dating a guy that Oregon just hired to their staff and he had a call with Lanning last night and Lanning confirmed with him he is staying at Oregon and they are still hiring him on staff and arranging all the details to onboard him to Oregon staff and moving them across country. So lanning is out. 
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 11, 2024, 05:32:10 PM
Yup. As Ryan Day is finding out right now in trying to replace Urbz.

Urbz won a Natty and never lost to Michigan. Ryan Day can’t beat Michigan and Michigan just won the Natty. Homie is coaching for his job in 2024. Better win THE GAME or he’s probably finito.
Probably true.  

Even though he did beat Michigan easily on his first try, he won get the benefit of Hairball who didn’t beat OSU until his 7th season. 
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Mdot21 on January 11, 2024, 05:46:54 PM
Probably true. 

Even though he did beat Michigan easily on his first try, he won get the benefit of Hairball who didn’t beat OSU until his 7th season.
Yup. But Jeem had the luxury of taking over for a fat poke named Hoke that didn’t wear a headset and taking over a dumpster fire that was getting beat down by OSU for 10ish years before he ever showed up. 

Day took over maybe the #2 program in the country behind only Saban’s Bama and took over for Ubrz- who is maybe the 2nd best coach ever in college behind Saban. He’s in that conversation at the very least.

Day is a heckuva coach. Look at his resume, it’s like 3 schools holding him back from a Natty- Bama, UGA, Mich- that’s it. His overall record is insane. And even if he can’t beat Michigan in ‘24 at home (which he 100% should be the favorite to do) - he should keep his job. But unfortunately when you’re taking over for a guy like Urbz who won a Natty and never lost to Michigan- the expectation levels are sky high. 
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MikeDeTiger on January 11, 2024, 06:22:20 PM
The best reaction I've seen so far:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqExxyHOrNk
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 11, 2024, 07:04:34 PM
Yup. But Jeem had the luxury of taking over for a fat poke named Hoke that didn’t wear a headset and taking over a dumpster fire that was getting beat down by OSU for 10ish years before he ever showed up.

Day took over maybe the #2 program in the country behind only Saban’s Bama and took over for Ubrz- who is maybe the 2nd best coach ever in college behind Saban. He’s in that conversation at the very least.

Day is a heckuva coach. Look at his resume, it’s like 3 schools holding him back from a Natty- Bama, UGA, Mich- that’s it. His overall record is insane. And even if he can’t beat Michigan in ‘24 at home (which he 100% should be the favorite to do) - he should keep his job. But unfortunately when you’re taking over for a guy like Urbz who won a Natty and never lost to Michigan- the expectation levels are sky high.
Yes- 3 of his losses have been to the National Champ- and 2 of those games were nip and tuck ( Michigan and Georgia).

it’s all relative.  If you watched the games and looked at the box scores- Ohio State came the closest to beating UM than anyone else- and in their stadium.

You could say  Bama because OT- but UM played so sloppy that game and was nearly flawless against OSU.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 11, 2024, 07:35:13 PM
The best reaction I've seen so far:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqExxyHOrNk
That's hilarious! 

Maybe college football can survive. That level of rivalry hate can't be easily quenched... :57:
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 11, 2024, 08:04:17 PM
I didn't want to put it out there yet, but since it's well known now it seems, Lanning is not leaving Oregon. I have a very good friend that has been dating a guy that Oregon just hired to their staff and he had a call with Lanning last night and Lanning confirmed with him he is staying at Oregon and they are still hiring him on staff and arranging all the details to onboard him to Oregon staff and moving them across country. So lanning is out.
Bueller

 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swBtLPWeKbU)
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: SuperMario on January 11, 2024, 08:13:02 PM
Bueller

 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swBtLPWeKbU)
Was it too hard to understand? Friend been dating a coach hired at oregon? New coach talked to head coach out of fear of new job being in jeopardy. I’ll keep the description down to 3 words next time.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MrNubbz on January 11, 2024, 08:15:35 PM

Day is a heckuva coach. Look at his resume, it’s like 3 schools holding him back from a Natty- Bama, UGA, Mich- Clemson that’s it. His overall record is insane. And even if he can’t beat Michigan in ‘24 at home (which he 100% should be the favorite to do) - he should keep his job. But unfortunately when you’re taking over for a guy like Urbz who won a Natty and never lost to Michigan- the expectation levels are sky high.
FIFY
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: ELA on January 12, 2024, 09:51:25 AM
https://twitter.com/Wil__Hunter/status/1745818950691123209?t=pCH7I94PODpyCyQC3N2NFQ&s=19
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MikeDeTiger on January 12, 2024, 10:05:43 AM
Anybody remember what a protracted mess the Bama HC search actually was last time?  It dragged on forever, seemed like, with multiple bad looks and egg on the face.  Mr. Hoople (RIP) even started a thread called "Let's Help Bama Find A Coach."  As I recall, they initially went after Saban, who turned them down.  They then moved on to a string of other candidates, who also turned them down, and they were not good at keeping it out of the news.  Every swing and miss was embarrassingly detailed in the media.  Finally, I guess, the boosters gathered together so much $ that Saban couldn't turn them down, and they ended up getting their original #1 pick....although Saban had the famous "I guess I'll just have to say it....I'm not gonna be Alabama's next coach," even as the deal was being finalized. 

I imagine the 6 NCs and insane win% has made the Gumps forget all about that, but I remember it, and I'm rooting for similar chaos, but without the same ensuing results.  
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MrNubbz on January 12, 2024, 10:24:50 AM
IMO DeBoer would be making a mistake(if true).Five yrs ago maybe not, but with the Portal and Big NIL money that even Bama Bagmen and their brand can't match he'd be pedestrian. Sure big pay day but would not do a whole hell of a lot for his resume' or street cred
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: ELA on January 12, 2024, 10:26:39 AM
https://twitter.com/5thDownCFB/status/1745479657686704489?t=0PYOIZ_lbi4vs6oSQpjlSQ&s=19
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: utee94 on January 12, 2024, 10:28:46 AM
Anybody remember what a protracted mess the Bama HC search actually was last time?  It dragged on forever, seemed like, with multiple bad looks and egg on the face.  Mr. Hoople (RIP) even started a thread called "Let's Help Bama Find A Coach."  As I recall, they initially went after Saban, who turned them down.  They then moved on to a string of other candidates, who also turned them down, and they were not good at keeping it out of the news.  Every swing and miss was embarrassingly detailed in the media.  Finally, I guess, the boosters gathered together so much $ that Saban couldn't turn them down, and they ended up getting their original #1 pick....although Saban had the famous "I guess I'll just have to say it....I'm not gonna be Alabama's next coach," even as the deal was being finalized. 

I imagine the 6 NCs and insane win% has made the Gumps forget all about that, but I remember it, and I'm rooting for similar chaos, but without the same ensuing results. 

As I recall, enough weeks had passed and Saban wasn't doing all that well in the NFL, and that probably also helped him change his mind.

But seriously, if you're a successful head coach at a pretty well established program, there's a lot of downside to taking the Alabama job and following a legend.  Sure the money will be good, but anything less than supreme success is probably going to get you fired, which could ultimately set your career back 10 years.  There are very real reasons why a guy like Lanning turned down the job.  I could see DeBoer turning it down as well.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: FearlessF on January 12, 2024, 10:28:52 AM
sure, he'd get fired for not winning enough titles, but............

he'd recruit WAY better than at Warshington
his success at Warshington prolly not sustainable w/o Penix and going into the B1G.
Meaning, his stock will never be higher


and then the whole $$$$ thing - he can retire
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: utee94 on January 12, 2024, 10:32:56 AM
sure, he'd get fired for not winning enough titles, but............

he'd recruit WAY better than at Warshington
his success at Warshington prolly not sustainable w/o Penix and going into the B1G.
Meaning, his stock will never be higher


and then the whole $$$$ thing - he can retire

I'm not certain this is true at all.  SABAN can recruit Alabama way better than DeBoer can at Washington, but DeBoer at Alabama is something completely different.  By almost all accounts, DeBoer really doesn't like recruiting at all, which is one of the reasons so many people are predicting he'd head to the NFL as his next stop.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MikeDeTiger on January 12, 2024, 11:09:22 AM
I already thought Bama should give Norvell a look.  Norvell might want to think about getting out of Tallahassee since the NCAA is trying to drop the hammer on them.  I could see his style working well at Bama.  
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: FearlessF on January 12, 2024, 11:13:05 AM
I'm not certain this is true at all.  SABAN can recruit Alabama way better than DeBoer can at Washington, but DeBoer at Alabama is something completely different.  By almost all accounts, DeBoer really doesn't like recruiting at all, which is one of the reasons so many people are predicting he'd head to the NFL as his next stop.

you or I could recruit better players at Bama than Warshington
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Mdot21 on January 12, 2024, 11:18:01 AM
I'm not certain this is true at all.  SABAN can recruit Alabama way better than DeBoer can at Washington, but DeBoer at Alabama is something completely different.  By almost all accounts, DeBoer really doesn't like recruiting at all, which is one of the reasons so many people are predicting he'd head to the NFL as his next stop.
yeah good points.

BAMA wasn't recruiting like they do now before Saban. Saban is just an elite recruiter who can recruit top classes almost anywhere- and then winning a bunch of NC's just builds on that and enhances it. DeBoer ain't gonna 'croot like Saban- even at Bama.

No top coach should want to follow Saban at Bama. You flat out just will not live up to him. Pressure will be intense and unless you can win 6 NC's in 15 years and play for a few more- you'll be a failure. Impossible standard to live up to.

And with the NIL & Portal, ANY college coach with pro options would be stupid af to stay in college. Which is why I won't blame Jeem at all when he jumps back to the NFL. Being a college coach SUCKS now. And Saban knows this- which is why he's walking away imo.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: SuperMario on January 12, 2024, 11:41:19 AM

And with the NIL & Portal, ANY college coach with pro options would be stupid af to stay in college. Which is why I won't blame Jeem at all when he jumps back to the NFL. Being a college coach SUCKS now. And Saban knows this- which is why he's walking away imo.
With the NIL & Portal, yes it sucks. Financially, not really. Example.. Ryan Day made more than 25 NFL coaches this year. Lane Kiffin made more than 22 of them. Luke Fickell more than 21 of them. If you're at a top 25ish helmet school, you make more than more than half the NFL head coaches. Think about it, Lincoln Riley and Kyle Shanahan make the same. 

It will be interesting to see how the NIL and portal shape the college game in the coming couple years. It can lead to chaos, negative impact on the entire game and top coaches all trying to sneak their way in the NFL or maybe the chaos leads to a forced intelligent resolution that brings a little stability back and desire to be in the college game.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MrNubbz on January 12, 2024, 12:44:04 PM
will be very interesting to see who they hire to replace an irreplaceable icon.
The Guy on the far right

(https://i.imgur.com/Mxi5xge.png)
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MrNubbz on January 12, 2024, 01:58:27 PM
(https://twitter.com/5thDownCFB)Mark Schipper - 5th Down CFB

One of my favorite Nick Saban stories that I think captures the man in a single anecdote. I got it from
@CoachBobStoops (https://twitter.com/CoachBobStoops)..........

That was pretty good
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: FearlessF on January 12, 2024, 03:13:18 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/U70TNqn.jpg)
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MrNubbz on January 12, 2024, 03:43:40 PM
GTH out,someone's pranking or kinda ignorant - at least to say it out loud
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: FearlessF on January 12, 2024, 03:57:42 PM
it's gotta be the truth

found it on FB
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MrNubbz on January 12, 2024, 04:41:37 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/reaction-to-kalen-deboer-new-alabama-coach-here-s-what-finebaum-others-are-saying/ar-AA1mSTWr
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Mdot21 on January 13, 2024, 09:46:05 AM
Welp it’s official. 

Kalen DeBoer to Bama.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: MikeDeTiger on January 15, 2024, 08:49:14 AM
Welp it’s official.

Kalen DeBoer to Bama.

He was skeered of joining the Big Ten.  
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 15, 2024, 08:57:37 AM
With the NIL & Portal, yes it sucks. Financially, not really. Example.. Ryan Day made more than 25 NFL coaches this year. Lane Kiffin made more than 22 of them. Luke Fickell more than 21 of them. If you're at a top 25ish helmet school, you make more than more than half the NFL head coaches. Think about it, Lincoln Riley and Kyle Shanahan make the same.

It will be interesting to see how the NIL and portal shape the college game in the coming couple years. It can lead to chaos, negative impact on the entire game and top coaches all trying to sneak their way in the NFL or maybe the chaos leads to a forced intelligent resolution that brings a little stability back and desire to be in the college game.
Destroy the game comes to mind.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: FearlessF on January 15, 2024, 08:59:29 AM
He was skeered of joining the Big Ten. 
with a recruiting base in Warshington, yes
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: Entropy on January 15, 2024, 02:24:20 PM
No matter what your record is as a coach at bama... it will be decades before people stop comparing the results to Saban and whining that the current coach doesn't get the bama way or is winning enough.   

Been there.. it happens.  You'd hope fans would learn after Bear, but they won't.    I wouldn't touch the bama job if I was a coach.  He had a better thing going at Washington.  
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: FearlessF on January 15, 2024, 02:27:17 PM
but, but, the Brinks truck.
Title: Re: saban retiring
Post by: SuperMario on January 15, 2024, 02:29:27 PM
Destroy the game comes to mind.
That's definitely the way I'm leaning to. I'm hoping if i don't speak it into existence it won't happen. Because that always works