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Title: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: Kingsvol on December 02, 2023, 07:28:50 PM
…there is no SEC in playoffs.  I want to see Alabama go nuts by being left out.  

If I had a vote and nothing funny happens 

1. Michigan 
2. Texas
3. Washington 
4. FSU

This may be the only way the world has a win.  Since the true win didn’t happen and there was no meteor to hit the stadium tonight. 



Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: TREX on December 02, 2023, 08:05:09 PM
Sounds reasonable
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: harvestalvol on December 02, 2023, 08:43:15 PM
With AL there is always something funny going on. I predicted AL to beat GA and now AL gets in. Saban will not have it otherwise. 
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: TREX on December 02, 2023, 08:59:51 PM
With AL there is always something funny going on. I predicted AL to beat GA and now AL gets in. Saban will not have it otherwise.
Yep Saban makes the calls in the SEC
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: jgvol on December 02, 2023, 09:37:52 PM
FSU not making a good case to leave Bama out either.   
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: fuzzynavol on December 02, 2023, 09:48:21 PM
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Alabama
4. Georgia

Georgia beats Bama for the 3-peat.  
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: harvestalvol on December 02, 2023, 10:05:43 PM
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Alabama
4. Texas
Bama wins its 118th National Championship
 
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: highVOLtage on December 03, 2023, 01:34:33 AM
I think the committee will say:
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Texas
4. Alabama

I would like the committee to say:
1. Michigan
2. Washington 
3. Florida State
4. Texas

The winner of Michigan/Alabama will be the national champs.
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: roadvol on December 03, 2023, 09:17:37 AM
I think the committee will say:
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Texas
4. Alabama

I would like the committee to say:
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Florida State
4. Texas

The winner of Michigan/Alabama will be the national champs.

I agree but it would be criminal if FSU is not in regardless of their QB situation. Thye earned it during the regular season. How could you keep a 13-0 FSU out?
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: TREX on December 03, 2023, 09:48:29 AM
If Michigan wins do they sweep StallionGate under the table?
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: jgvol on December 03, 2023, 10:49:07 AM
I agree but it would be criminal if FSU is not in regardless of their QB situation. Thye earned it during the regular season. How could you keep a 13-0 FSU out?

That is the big debate.  Do you take the most deserving team — FSU, or the better team — Bama.

The CFB committee chair has stated over and over that they will choose the 4 ‘best’ teams. 

I’ve got a crappy feeling that Bama is getting in. 

It would be better for the actual game play, no doubt.  FSU would get destroyed and we’d see a non competitive game, I believe.  
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: DunkingDan on December 03, 2023, 11:45:03 AM
That is the big debate.  Do you take the most deserving team — FSU, or the better team — Bama.

The CFB committee chair has stated over and over that they will choose the 4 ‘best’ teams. 

I’ve got a crappy feeling that Bama is getting in.

It would be better for the actual game play, no doubt.  FSU would get destroyed and we’d see a non competitive game, I believe. 
Follow the money

Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: fuzzynavol on December 03, 2023, 12:59:00 PM
I think the committee will say:
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Texas
4. Alabama
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Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: Volbrigade/oU on December 03, 2023, 04:17:25 PM
…there is no SEC in playoffs.  I want to see Alabama go nuts by being left out. 

If I had a vote and nothing funny happens

1. Michigan
2. Texas
3. Washington
4. FSU

This may be the only way the world has a win.  Since the true win didn’t happen and there was no meteor to hit the stadium tonight.
Yeah.  You nailed it.
Texas #2?
Sheet far, man.  Let's look at it.
Texas beat Bama on Sept 9.
Since then, Bama has reeled off 11 straight.  Including a SECCG win against repeat NC and #1 Georgia, ending their zillion game winning streak.

Texas lost to their biggest rival.  And beat OKSt.  Whee.

Where's the comparison?

I don't like Bama.  But I can remember over 50 Bama-UT games.  Of those, less than 20 are Vol victories.  Credit where credit is due.  At least we get our butts kicked regularly by the best.  Along with everybody else. 

It should be Michigan, UW, FSU, Bama.

Simple.  No argument.  

HOWEVER -- the Biden-voting bean-counters had an FSU provision WRITTEN IN to the selection criteria -- "if a team has key players injured"...

So put away your hankies, FSU.  Besides, if Clemson had a FG kicker, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

The biggest "what if"?

Texas beats Oklahoma.  No SEC Champ in the their little dog and pony show playoff?

Huh.

A writer on another site said "too bad we don't have a 12-team playoff this year...".

Hell -- why stop at 12?  Why not 24?  48?  68, with a two-game play-in?

Bah.  Humbug.

 
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: TREX on December 03, 2023, 07:02:54 PM
Follow the money
And they did
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: Drew4UTk on December 03, 2023, 07:08:57 PM
Eh... "they" are devising a Texas bama rivalry... 

My hope is bama and their fans get a dose of their own medicine in a big way- UM gets to hold, gets to interfere, gets to target... and bama gets called for everything and then some made up things... "letting" Michigan break the record set by TCU/UGA game last year in margin.  
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: harvestalvol on December 03, 2023, 07:44:59 PM
Bama and the strips beat Michigan. The PTB do not want Harbaugh.

‘Abortion issue’ is one that ‘needs to be talked about,’ says Michigan Wolverines head coach Jim Harbaugh

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/27/sport/jim-harbaugh-abortion-michigan-spt-intl/index.html

Michigan Wolverines head coach Jim Harbaugh has told ESPN that “the abortion issue is one that’s so big that it needs to be talked about” after saying he’d raise an unwanted baby from a player or staff member of his.

Harbaugh, a Catholic, and his wife Sarah spoke last week at the pro-life ‘Plymouth Right to Life’ event. He spoke about how his pro-life beliefs were instilled by his parents from a young age.

“I believe in having the courage to let the unborn be born,” Harbaugh said. “I love life. I believe in having a loving care and respect for life and death. My faith and my science are what drive these beliefs in me. Quoting from Jeremiah: ‘Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. Before you were born, I set you apart. I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.’”
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: Kingsvol on December 03, 2023, 07:57:34 PM
Yeah.  You nailed it.
Texas #2?
Sheet far, man.  Let's look at it.
Texas beat Bama on Sept 9.
Since then, Bama has reeled off 11 straight.  Including a SECCG win against repeat NC and #1 Georgia, ending their zillion game winning streak.

Texas lost to their biggest rival.  And beat OKSt.  Whee.

Where's the comparison?

I don't like Bama.  But I can remember over 50 Bama-UT games.  Of those, less than 20 are Vol victories.  Credit where credit is due.  At least we get our butts kicked regularly by the best.  Along with everybody else.

It should be Michigan, UW, FSU, Bama.

Simple.  No argument. 

HOWEVER -- the Biden-voting bean-counters had an FSU provision WRITTEN IN to the selection criteria -- "if a team has key players injured"...

So put away your hankies, FSU.  Besides, if Clemson had a FG kicker, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

The biggest "what if"?

Texas beats Oklahoma.  No SEC Champ in the their little dog and pony show playoff?

Huh.

A writer on another site said "too bad we don't have a 12-team playoff this year...".

Hell -- why stop at 12?  Why not 24?  48?  68, with a two-game play-in?

Bah.  Humbug.

 

You mean an Alabama that needed a last minute Hail Mary to be a 3-5 and 6-6 overall sucky Auburn team.  Yeah Bama looked the part.

if the shoes were on the other feet. Texas had Bama record (meaning teams) and Bama had Texas record.  So the only loss for Texas would have been an at home 20 point loss to Bama. Do you think Texas is in?  Would they deserve to be in over a 13-0 team that took care of business even down two quarterbacks?  And when did this sport become basketball and the whole team rides off the point guard?  The game is a team sport and no matter the competition they took care of business and was the better team and that is something Bama can’t say.  

Just like I correct Tennessee fans when they say we are a better team than Florida. Well the scoreboard has a different opinion. 

And since everybody thinks who is better then let’s save tons of money and quit actually playing the game on the field.  We lost three count them three games we were at least better than during the game or better on paper.  

No Bama doesn’t belong and that is not debatable from a point that tries to make the case they belong.  Not in logic and not looking at all the stories the scoreboards final number tell.  

so yes in my opinion between Texas and Washington and FSU. Texas is number two while Washington is number three and FSU bring up the rear.

For everybody that doesn’t want a playoff this scenario is exactly why the playoffs are happening.  The committee gets it wrong to many times.  Now they will settle it on the field like they should.  

Oh they will have issues who belongs in the 12.  Maybe some but that would be much rarer because it starts to drop off after twelve. But I would go for adding four more and remove the byes and then you still wouldn’t add weeks to the playing time. 

Oh one more thing. Bama didn’t convert on that fourth down against Georgia. Now we don’t know how that ultimately changes an outcome. But we do know since it was fourth down they wouldn’t have had a touchdown in that series. Yeah Bama is more lucky than good.  
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: Drew4UTk on December 03, 2023, 08:10:15 PM
It's basically the b10 against the sec... the two sanctioned leagues by the PTB... 

I also think this is Sabans last season.  Going out on top... Bama loses its throttle hold on all things sec in two years... if the sport survives at all, they'll be middling or lower tier by year three.  

I hope we actually have football next season.  NOT even joking.  
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: jgvol on December 03, 2023, 08:19:15 PM
You mean an Alabama that needed a last minute Hail Mary to be a 3-5 and 6-6 overall sucky Auburn team.  Yeah Bama looked the part.

if the shoes were on the other feet. Texas had Bama record (meaning teams) and Bama had Texas record.  So the only loss for Texas would have been an at home 20 point loss to Bama. Do you think Texas is in?  Would they deserve to be in over a 13-0 team that took care of business even down two quarterbacks?  And when did this sport become basketball and the whole team rides off the point guard?  The game is a team sport and no matter the competition they took care of business and was the better team and that is something Bama can’t say. 

Just like I correct Tennessee fans when they say we are a better team than Florida. Well the scoreboard has a different opinion.

And since everybody thinks who is better then let’s save tons of money and quit actually playing the game on the field.  We lost three count them three games we were at least better than during the game or better on paper. 

No Bama doesn’t belong and that is not debatable from a point that tries to make the case they belong.  Not in logic and not looking at all the stories the scoreboards final number tell. 

so yes in my opinion between Texas and Washington and FSU. Texas is number two while Washington is number three and FSU bring up the rear.

For everybody that doesn’t want a playoff this scenario is exactly why the playoffs are happening.  The committee gets it wrong to many times.  Now they will settle it on the field like they should. 

Oh they will have issues who belongs in the 12.  Maybe some but that would be much rarer because it starts to drop off after twelve. But I would go for adding four more and remove the byes and then you still wouldn’t add weeks to the playing time.

Oh one more thing. Bama didn’t convert on that fourth down against Georgia. Now we don’t know how that ultimately changes an outcome. But we do know since it was fourth down they wouldn’t have had a touchdown in that series. Yeah Bama is more lucky than good. 

Bama would destroy FSU.  Period. 

Georgia will destroy them in the Orange Bowl, and the Bama selection will be more than validated. 

The committee finally did what they have supposed to have been doing the entire time — pick the best 4 teams. 

Deserves never had anything to do with anything, based on the committee’s criteria.  They just screwed it up every other time, trying to avoid the very criticism they are receiving now. 

I’d love to see Bama get screwed as much as anyone else, but they were the right pick, based on criteria. 

Now, if the he zebras call game down the middle all year long, then I doubt we’re even having this conversation. 

The only head scratcher for me is….how in the hell is FSU #5, and UGA #6 ?

Even the Dawgs should have been picked over the Noles. 
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: harvestalvol on December 03, 2023, 08:54:05 PM
You mean an Alabama that needed a last minute Hail Mary to be a 3-5 and 6-6 overall sucky Auburn team.  Yeah Bama looked the part.

if the shoes were on the other feet. Texas had Bama record (meaning teams) and Bama had Texas record.  So the only loss for Texas would have been an at home 20 point loss to Bama. Do you think Texas is in?  Would they deserve to be in over a 13-0 team that took care of business even down two quarterbacks?  And when did this sport become basketball and the whole team rides off the point guard?  The game is a team sport and no matter the competition they took care of business and was the better team and that is something Bama can’t say. 

Just like I correct Tennessee fans when they say we are a better team than Florida. Well the scoreboard has a different opinion.

And since everybody thinks who is better then let’s save tons of money and quit actually playing the game on the field.  We lost three count them three games we were at least better than during the game or better on paper. 

No Bama doesn’t belong and that is not debatable from a point that tries to make the case they belong.  Not in logic and not looking at all the stories the scoreboards final number tell. 

so yes in my opinion between Texas and Washington and FSU. Texas is number two while Washington is number three and FSU bring up the rear.

For everybody that doesn’t want a playoff this scenario is exactly why the playoffs are happening.  The committee gets it wrong to many times.  Now they will settle it on the field like they should. 

Oh they will have issues who belongs in the 12.  Maybe some but that would be much rarer because it starts to drop off after twelve. But I would go for adding four more and remove the byes and then you still wouldn’t add weeks to the playing time.

Oh one more thing. Bama didn’t convert on that fourth down against Georgia. Now we don’t know how that ultimately changes an outcome. But we do know since it was fourth down they wouldn’t have had a touchdown in that series. Yeah Bama is more lucky than good. 
You mean an Alabama that needed a last minute Hail Mary to be a 3-5 and 6-6 overall sucky Auburn team.

Excellent point and one that seems to have been omitted from the discussion/analysis. We have been told that a win, is a win. Unless you are FSU, of course. 
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: Volbrigade/oU on December 03, 2023, 09:10:15 PM
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if the shoes were on the other feet. Texas had Bama record (meaning teams) and Bama had Texas record.  So the only loss for Texas would have been an at home 20 point loss to Bama.



Last time I looked, 34-24 is not a 20-point loss.

Bama didn't lose again after that.  In the SEC.

Texas lost to Oklahoma.  Which lost to... lessee here... Kansas?  OKSt.?

The same OKSt. team that Texas beat yesterday?  Pretty impressive...

Not QUITE as impressive as beating Georgia, though -- wouldn't you agree?

Me?  I put Bama in, ahead of Texas, at #4.  FSU should be in.  #3.  But again:

There's an "injured key player" proviso WRITTEN INTO the rules.

And again:  Clemson's walk-on FG kicker makes a 30-yard FG... this conversation is probably moot.


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For everybody that doesn’t want a playoff this scenario is exactly why the playoffs are happening.  The committee gets it wrong to many times.  Now they will settle it on the field like they should.
 


That's what Georgia and Bama did.  And OSU and Michigan.  Everyone knows UGA is the best team in the nation.  I don't take pleasure in writing that -- it's just a fact.  But they're not in.  Too bad.  OSU is probably as good as anyone in the top 4.  We'll never know.  And who cares?

The post season is highly overrated.

Under the old BCS system -- which was superior to the fantasy football crap we have now; it is the nature of systems to "improve" themselves into incompetence -- it would be Michigan vs. Washington.  #1 vs. #2.  Unfair?  Subjective?  So what?  FSU can cry all offseason about how they were robbed.  "There's a tear in my beer..."    


 



Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: Volbrigade/oU on December 04, 2023, 12:44:04 AM

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Ultimately, the absence of Travis was enough for the committee to select Alabama for the final spot, leaving Michigan seemingly disappointed they wouldn't play a weakened Florida State offense.



https://www.yahoo.com/sports/michigan-interesting-reaction-college-football-185206471.html
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: Cincydawg on December 04, 2023, 09:07:44 AM
I figure Texas is the team to "root" for, among any of them.

Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: highVOLtage on December 04, 2023, 09:16:26 AM
Everyone knows UGA is the best team in the nation.  I don't take pleasure in writing that -- it's just a fact.

Have to disagree there. This UGA team is not as good as the previous two years.  They played a relatively weak schedule.  Their two biggest wins were Missouri and Ole Miss, both home games. Their best offensive player (Bowers) was out for a third of the season.  I never thought they were a consistently dominant team this year.
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: Cincydawg on December 04, 2023, 09:19:57 AM
I agree UGA seemed "down" from the past two years, but they were still pretty solid.  I think they'd be favored over any opponent even now, but it would be very close with UM/Bama/Texas.  The are nearly a 2 TD favorite over FSU.  They had a game with Oklahoma removed from their schedule that could have helped some had they won.
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: Kingsvol on December 04, 2023, 10:07:13 AM
https://twitter.com/dennyburk/status/1731404466836930589?s=61&t=AP58k4MjUqyseFwkfZ7UxQ


Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: Kingsvol on December 04, 2023, 10:29:45 AM
:57:

https://twitter.com/jerry_bulls_gap/status/1731377930503123212?s=61&t=AP58k4MjUqyseFwkfZ7UxQ
Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: gymvol on December 04, 2023, 11:39:21 AM

One thing Saban has to worry about now he won't have Sankey and the SEC referees to protect his ass. 

Who knows Alabama may actually get called for some of the holding and PI they do so consistently.

I don't care who wins as long as it isn't Alabama.    

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Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: fuzzynavol on December 04, 2023, 12:27:14 PM
One thing Saban has to worry about now he won't have Sankey and the SEC referees to protect his ass.

Who knows Alabama may actually get called for some of the holding and PI they do so consistently.

I don't care who wins as long as it isn't Alabama.   
Gymmie, I agree with everything you just said, but I'll be pulling for the Crimson Tide because I think it's in Tennessee's best interest.  We don't need a national champion to come from up north (Michigan) or out west (Washington).  To be able to recruit guys like Iamaleava, they've got to believe that the best college football is played in the South.  And yes, that even includes the great state of Texas where I'd like a better shot at getting a player or two every year.  Alabama's brand is already so extraordinary that another natty doesn't really change anything. 

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Title: Re: I hope the silver lining is…
Post by: highVOLtage on December 04, 2023, 07:38:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZm3pc5HbsY