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Title: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on November 27, 2023, 03:40:40 PM
3 players entered the portal today.

OT Spencer Brown - always looked the part, never lived up to it.  He announced prior to the PSU game it was his last.  I think he probably winds up in the Draft

OLB Darius Snow - suffered a catastrophic knee injury in the opener last year, that it took him 13 months to "come back" from.  He graduated in 3 years, and sounds like he will wrap up a masters this year.  He was one of the top 3 players on the defense prior to injury.  Post injury, he was one of the worst players on a bad defense.  Guessing he is looking to transfer down so he can play

QB Katin Houser - I knew we were never keeping both, and I liked Leavitt's film better, but still was hoping to keep him.  I think he was overrated as a recruit, but I think he would be a solid junior-senior QB, as unrealstic as that is now
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on November 27, 2023, 04:30:27 PM
Some smoke that QB Aidan Chiles will follow Smith to MSU.  He played in 9 games this year, and burned his redshirt, so he would slide into Houser's spot, with 3 years of eligibility left.
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on November 27, 2023, 04:54:11 PM
DJ Uiagalelei still has his COVID year doesn't he?
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on November 27, 2023, 04:54:48 PM
DJ Uiagalelei still has his COVID year doesn't he?
But he already transferred
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on November 27, 2023, 05:19:58 PM
Kevin Wigenton also transferring.  Started as a sophomore.  Considering how bad this staff was, and the incoming OL coach had his OL as a Joe Moore finalist, I'm good with any OL who doesn't want to be a part of the new staff, not being a part of the new staff
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on November 27, 2023, 09:15:19 PM
Well, also losing Leavitt, after preserving his redshirt for him sucks.

He basically said he loves MSU but doesn't want to play for a coach who didn't offer him out of high school.

I guess shouldn't have worried about preserving his redshirt these last 2 games. I wish him the best, but good luck finding a job as a Big 10/SEC QB1 next year.  He threw one of those 30 jobs away out of spite 
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on November 27, 2023, 09:21:10 PM
But he already transferred
He could again if he graduated
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on November 27, 2023, 09:28:18 PM
He could again if he graduated
I mean MSU isn't making the playoffs next year, so why bother?  Take the younger Oregon State QB, and see if you can be relevant in a couple years.  DJ might be the difference between 5-7 and 7-5 next year, which is irrelevant 
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on November 27, 2023, 09:45:19 PM
Good pick up for Smith did a good job with Oregon St.Ducks had to send a message to the committee but outside of that he did a very respectable job and knows the talent out there on the left coast
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on November 28, 2023, 06:53:20 AM
Coach Smith is bringing a lot of his staff with him from Oregon State for the complete re-build.  I hope he can tone down the intra-state hate a little.

https://spartanswire.usatoday.com/lists/tracker-every-new-michigan-state-football-staff-hire-under-new-head-coach-jonathan-smith/ (https://spartanswire.usatoday.com/lists/tracker-every-new-michigan-state-football-staff-hire-under-new-head-coach-jonathan-smith/)
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on November 28, 2023, 08:31:21 AM
With Booger's looming departure that will happen by default
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on November 29, 2023, 11:26:45 AM
Seems like every commit, who didn't already decommit following the coaching chance is sticking with it.

Most importantly, Nick Marsh, the top recruit in the class, has already reaffirmed he's in.

But still, only 8 remained.  That puts MSU #17 of 18 (ahead of just Northwestern) in the 247 comp ratings, but when filtered by average star ranking, it's #10.  Hopefully Smith brings some Oregon State commits with him, and now might be a good time to do what Colorado did, and hire a MAC coach as a coordinator.  It's a pay bump, and they might know the midwest guys that Big Ten schools missed on.  Either due to injury, or lack of camping, etc...
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 29, 2023, 11:30:43 AM
Seems like every commit, who didn't already decommit following the coaching chance is sticking with it.

Most importantly, Nick Marsh, the top recruit in the class, has already reaffirmed he's in.

But still, only 8 remained.  That puts MSU #17 of 18 (ahead of just Northwestern) in the 247 comp ratings, but when filtered by average star ranking, it's #10.  Hopefully Smith brings some Oregon State commits with him, and now might be a good time to do what Colorado did, and hire a MAC coach as a coordinator.  It's a pay bump, and they might know the midwest guys that Big Ten schools missed on.  Either due to injury, or lack of camping, etc...
Bring him home?


Dan Enos - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Enos)
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on November 29, 2023, 12:19:18 PM
Bring him home?


Dan Enos - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Enos)
God no
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on November 29, 2023, 12:20:35 PM
Most importantly, Nick Marsh, the top recruit in the class, has already reaffirmed he's in.
He just gave an interview where he said when he visited Colorado for an unofficial, he never actually met Prime or the WR coach, so he cancelled his official
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on November 29, 2023, 12:29:05 PM
😎 :cheer: 😎
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on November 29, 2023, 12:29:17 PM
MSU's entire team except for Nathan Carter might be in the portal.

Coach fired 2 games in + 4-8 season + NIL collective pulls their deals due to lack of funding in early October = this

This is why, yes, Mel Tucker was a bad coach, but MSU would have been better off on the field not firing him.  I stand by the decision to hire him in the pre-NIL era.  But having a great recruiter doesn't help when you don't have the NIL funding of the helmets.  And he always had to surround himself with good Xs and Os guys.  He didn't.  I think he would have had a chance to flip his staff.  But no thanks.  Don't feel like defending a POS like that
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 29, 2023, 12:44:08 PM
God no
10 years ago he was considered a major pull for Bert. What happened? Seems like he's worked everywhere since then.
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on November 29, 2023, 01:04:51 PM
When Bert hired him he had never been an OC at the FBS level.  He was a head coach at CMU, and a position coach at MSU.  He track record as an OC hasn't been great.
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on December 01, 2023, 07:09:16 PM
Perfect

https://twitter.com/timstaudt10/status/1730727471991980380?t=BHRGqJ0FVwFiEKJluNlywg&s=19
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on December 04, 2023, 02:23:49 PM
Sounds like MSU is closing in on former Washington DC and HC Jimmy Lake as DC.  Was pretty good as a DC (and recruiter), was pretty bad as a HC
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on December 05, 2023, 05:31:20 PM
https://twitter.com/Beav0060718/status/1732140925063921950?t=dYOpeIDsESdH0iM1NuQ9wQ&s=19
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on December 05, 2023, 05:39:26 PM
Sounds like MSU is closing in on former Washington DC and HC Jimmy Lake as DC.  Was pretty good as a DC (and recruiter), was pretty bad as a HC
Would be a great hire
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: GopherRock on December 10, 2023, 05:39:44 PM
Minnesota DC Joe Rossi is the new DC at Michigan State. 

Great hire for MSU, huge loss for the Gophers. 
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on December 10, 2023, 05:55:20 PM
MSU has more money than Minnesoota?

or something more dramatic?
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on December 10, 2023, 06:03:43 PM
Got that coin back from Mel's misadventure
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: Benthere2 on December 10, 2023, 08:48:57 PM
MSU has more money than Minnesoota?

or something more dramatic?
money
rich get richer great hire
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on December 10, 2023, 11:06:59 PM
MSU has more money than Minnesoota?

or something more dramatic?
they gave Mel Tucker a $100mil contract for christ sake.

yes, they have more money than Minnesota. MSU has very wealthy donors that will pony up for the football program.
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on December 13, 2023, 09:03:25 AM
3 OL withdrew from the portal yesterday.

Not that MSU's OL was anything great, but (a) on the line I'll take as many D1 bodies as you can take and (b) they don't have Kap just collecting a paycheck "coaching" them anymore
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 13, 2023, 01:57:43 PM
That's good news.
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on December 13, 2023, 07:52:41 PM
Oops

https://twitter.com/OldTakesExposed/status/1734977708034023930?t=GpbEqs5zERZk9LWihYsw9w&s=19
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on December 14, 2023, 02:01:30 PM
Some smoke that QB Aidan Chiles will follow Smith to MSU.  He played in 9 games this year, and burned his redshirt, so he would slide into Houser's spot, with 3 years of eligibility left.
Committed to MSU
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 07, 2024, 12:38:05 PM
Seems like MSU basically took all of the Oregon State players they could.  Added their 2nd team AA center today.

And as a decent backup QB, they added Tommy Shuster, who was a 4 year starter at North Dakota.  This year was 208-294 (70.7%) with 19 TDs and 5 INTs
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on January 07, 2024, 12:59:26 PM
Bump off the cads down the road maybe
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 10, 2024, 06:59:37 PM
ok this made me lmao....

https://twitter.com/sarge__msu/status/1744693978610471068?s=20
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 10, 2024, 08:52:21 PM
ok this made me lmao....

https://twitter.com/sarge__msu/status/1744693978610471068?s=20
I miss the days of JLS, where we'd upset a team or two, and the Big Ten champ went nowhere 
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on January 11, 2024, 02:34:23 PM
Anyone know what Coach Smith's middle name is?
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 12, 2024, 08:59:47 AM
Loser
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 14, 2024, 01:23:50 PM
CB Tony Grimes, who missed last year injured, and was transferring in from Texas A&M, was denied admissions, and is apparently headed to UNLV instead.

Not sure why we can't just say he isn't playing in road games
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 16, 2024, 10:41:38 PM
It's funny how the winds change.  Late Dantonio, MSUs recruiting was awful.  Not like #5 in the Big Ten, with some finds.  They were literally just trying to flip MAC recruits.

So with Mel, they went all in on talent acquisition.  NIL and the portal certainly threw a wrench in that.  I think, on that end, he did what he was expected to do.  He upgraded the recruiting, although NIL has kind of made good recruiters relics.

Now, Jonathan Smith's staff seem to be all true coaches.  Their recruiting track records are extremely bad.  So MSU is back in early Dantonio era I guess.  Trying to coach kids up.  Problem is, you have to be good at identifying talent, and would you rather just hit the portal, than bet on your evaluation that a kid finally hits in his 4th year, as a RS junior
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 19, 2024, 11:06:21 AM
MSU finalizes their coaching staff by poaching DB coach Demetrice Martin (an MSU alum) from Oregon
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on February 07, 2024, 07:38:21 PM
Louisiana dropped our game with them next year, and the replacement on short notice is...

Prairie View A&M?
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 07, 2024, 09:42:44 PM
Seems like MSU basically took all of the Oregon State players they could.  Added their 2nd team AA center today.

And as a decent backup QB, they added Tommy Shuster, who was a 4 year starter at North Dakota.  This year was 208-294 (70.7%) with 19 TDs and 5 INTs



Fleecing OSU3 for coaches and players? 


(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/610aec5190cbf577be327936/a59aa5a0-b1ff-404b-94ab-c43851a5dae8/bold.jpg)
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on February 19, 2024, 08:47:54 PM
MSU hires alum Kayli Johnson as director of recruiting communications.  She's the older sister of UM CB Will Johnson, and had already turned down both Michigan and Alabama for the same job title this offseason.  She worked in MSU's recruiting department for a couple years after graduating under Dantonio
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 20, 2024, 07:24:28 AM
Nice pickup there.
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on April 09, 2024, 07:39:59 PM
I think MSU made a pretty good hire, and I get why he left, but man, this sucks.  Even as a beneficiary, knowing that we are <10 years away from MSU being on the other end of this, when they aren't in the 20 team mega conference

https://twitter.com/ShehanJeyarajah/status/1777795091383386412
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on April 21, 2024, 10:07:47 PM
Heh, "last stop".  Sure

https://twitter.com/Hayesfawcett3/status/1782220719859855417?t=fFshcpJgqLVKQJFssYaYvw&s=19
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on April 29, 2024, 04:31:54 PM
Andrew Dennis, who was committed to MSU, but flipped to Illinois, then apparently won the starting C job coming out of camp as a true freshman (per the Illinois 247 writer), has instead entered the portal, and may be coming back to MSU.

Even when it benefits MSU, I hate this thing.  Seems like neither of his flips are NIL related.  He flipped from MSU to Illinois due to the MSU coaching change, and having an existing relationship with the Illinois staff, and now (as an early enrollee) being a homesick 17 year old who wants to go back home.  So now, a kid who committed to MSU, went through spring camp, finds out he's getting jumped in the depth chart.  A kid who Illinois passed on to take Dennis, could have had that spot all along.

The CBA can't come soon enough
Title: Re: 2024 Michigan State Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on May 02, 2024, 03:25:22 PM
Ethan Boyd gets passed over at LT, then turns out he skips spring practice for mental health issues, and is either going to quit football, or transfer down.  Then today he commits to Coach Prime.  Better show out, or Deion will trash him on Twitter as is his MO now