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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: Temp430 on November 05, 2023, 12:37:06 PM
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The game is on Fox at Noon. Michigan opens as a 7 point favorite. Finally, Michigan plays somebody.
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This is PSU's last chance to get back in the Big Ten race. If PSU loses, they all but eliminated from playing in the CCG.
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Penn State "should" have a punchers chance at home, but Franklin's gonna Franklin.
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This is PSU's last chance to get back in the Big Ten race. If PSU loses, they all but eliminated from playing in the CCG.
As I explained in the CG races thread, there is no "all but" about it:
If Penn State loses, they are mathematically eliminated from the CG . . . With two more games to play.
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Bet lines for this game are now -4.5 points for Michigan.
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Penn State "should" have a punchers chance at home, but Franklin's gonna Franklin.
this is basically where I'm at.
Penn State has an excellent defense and the game is at home, but Franklin might be the worst big game coach in the sport.
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Bet lines for this game are now -4.5 points for Michigan.
Vegas knows Jeem will be suspended for life!
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he's pretty good....pretty, pretty, pretty, gooood
https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1721235178587304377?s=20
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Hey cool....I'm finally gonna watch a Michigan game.
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Hey cool....I'm finally gonna watch a Michigan game.
can't lie....I LOL'd.
honestly has not been a reason for anyone other than a Michigan fan to watch a single game all year. All been vs pretty bad teams that had no shot and got absolutely throttled.
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fwiw, I think Michigan is gonna throttle PSU. I'm not a believer in the Nittany Lions. I think they have a fine defense and are a good team. I don't think they're a top-10 quality team (emphasis on 'quality', I'm not arguing they don't belong in the top ten of this year, right now) and I don't think they're going to make it particularly close.
I could be wrong.
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Just shut your whore mouth
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Looking at tiebreakers, there is a not insignificant chance that this game is a B1GCG elimination game for both teams. We already know that a loss here would eliminate the Nittany Lions, here is a quick review of why:
With a loss here, PSU can do no better than 7-2 and Michigan can do no worse than 7-2. Even that requires Michigan losing to BOTH Maryland and Ohio State so it is extremely unlikely. Even if it happened, it would require tOSU beating Michigan which would give Ohio State at least seven wins so they'd have to lose their other two to create a three-way tie atop the B1G-E at 7-2. This scenario is EXTREMELY unlikely and it wouldn't even help PSU if it happened because tOSU would win that tie.
What about Michigan?
A loss here would still leave plenty of mathematical chances for the Wolverines but none of them are very likely. Given the weakness of the rest of the league, the Buckeyes, Wolverines, and Nittany Lions will likely win all of their games against the rest of the league. Thus, if Michigan loses in Happy Valley their best reasonably likely outcome is a 3-way tie with tOSU and PSU and Penn State is currently leading in the tiebreaker if that should come to pass. Plus, Minnesota still has to play Ohio State which hurts both tOSU's and M's chances in the potential 3-way tie. Also, Ohio State losing to Minnesota would actually be worse for Michigan's CG chances because if they lose to PSU they would obviously lose a 2-way tie with PSU so they would need tOSU to get to The Game unscathed.
Consequently, I'm thinking it is more and more likely that the loser of this game (either way) doesn't have a good way to get to the CG.
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PFF said he'd have been a top 10 pick in the 2023 Draft after his true freshman year.
I think he'd be top 5 this year if he could come out. Especially with it being a really weak CB draft. I get the draft rules are in place for a reason, but some guys are just ready to go pro after only 1 or 2 years of college. This dude is one of them.
https://twitter.com/DraftDay365/status/1720959207644553591?s=20
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James Franklin on #Michigan (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Michigan?src=hashtag_click) this week.
"I'm focused on all the stuff I see on film. That's what we're focused on, all the stuff that we see on film, their plays, scheme, all the stuff. When I say see on film, see on the coaches' copy of the film."
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James Franklin on #Michigan (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Michigan?src=hashtag_click) this week.
"I'm focused on all the stuff I see on film. That's what we're focused on, all the stuff that we see on film, their plays, scheme, all the stuff. When I say see on film, see on the coaches' copy of the film."
my god he's such a flaccid bald penis.
B1G has a TON of douchey coaches. That aren't very good. Ryan Day can talk all the crap he wants- he's an insanely good coach. Rest of these losers are bums and probably should just stfu.
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Parker Fleming's Advanced Stats preview has Michigan winning 22-19 and gives Michigan a 60% chance of winning.
https://twitter.com/statsowar/status/1721869724269564258?s=20
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Parker Fleming's Advanced Stats preview has Michigan winning 22-19 and gives Michigan a 60% chance of winning.
https://twitter.com/statsowar/status/1721869724269564258?s=20
I am going to go Michigan 24-13. I think Penn State’s Defense will keep them in it for a half or so.
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Franklin reminds me slightly of Mark Richt, maybe not intense enough for CFB, certainly different from Smart.
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Franklin reminds me slightly of Mark Richt, maybe not intense enough for CFB, certainly different from Smart.
Richt was a much better coach than Franklin.
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CFB Nerds podcast on the game....
their computer model predicts Michigan winning 30-19 and the Nerds both pick Michigan to win, 27-17 and 27-13.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RawSGct7t9w
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I'm rooting for an Upset here. I hope Jeem Jeem's it up more than Frankin Frankin's.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Penn St has played Illinois, NW, and IU. The 3 worst defenses in yards per rush against in the B1G. 75th, 88th, 95th nationally. Here's how PSU did against them:<br><br>Illinois<br>Season: 4.2<br>Penn St: 4.1<br><br>Northwestern<br>Season: 4.35<br>Penn St: 3.4<br><br>Indiana<br>Season: 4.44<br>Penn St: 3.1</p>— jamie mac (@justcoverblog) <a href="https://twitter.com/justcoverblog/status/1719003706320884176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 30, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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both these defenses are excellent. the game will come down to the QBs imo. Which one protects the ball and which one makes the big plays when they are there to be had. Can't turn it over- and have to get a couple chunk/explosive plays to score or set up scores.
JJ is quite a bit more experienced, much more mobile and elusive, has a better OL in front of him, and better weapons at WR/TE. Roman Wilson and Colston Loveland have both really had breakout years- and both of those guys are super talented playing at a high level right now.
It'll be a hell of a game.
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ESPN's FPI gives Michigan a 49.1% chance of winning. Still don't understand ESPN's FPI....
(https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/462/91/12091462.png?width=600&fit=bounds)
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ESPN's FPI gives Michigan a 49.1% chance of winning. Still don't understand ESPN's FPI....
I read a bit on it a while back, I think it's some computer power ranking. I don't pay any attention to it any more.
It's facile to say "X has an 80% chance of beating Y", you can never be wrong.
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I read a bit on it a while back, I think it's some computer power ranking. I don't pay any attention to it any more.
It's facile to say "X has an 80% chance of beating Y", you can never be wrong.
It's a Bayesian analysis as opposed to frequentist, so maybe you can't be wrong in a one-off, but you can be wrong in the long term, and are supposed to update your model accordingly.
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Whatever it is, I ignore it, as irrelevant click bait. Maybe it's amazingly accurate. The only pretty accurate thing I know of is the Vegas line, and of course upsets happen.
And the Vegas line is set on how they THINK bettors will bet, and then shifts as needed. It's a great scam.
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both these defenses are excellent. the game will come down to the QBs imo. Which one protects the ball and which one makes the big plays when they are there to be had. Can't turn it over- and have to get a couple chunk/explosive plays to score or set up scores.
JJ is quite a bit more experienced, much more mobile and elusive, has a better OL in front of him, and better weapons at WR/TE. Roman Wilson and Colston Loveland have both really had breakout years- and both of those guys are super talented playing at a high level right now.
It'll be a hell of a game.
I watched the Nerds preview. That and this has me thinking you are probably right it comes down to QB play. It doesn't appear that either team will be able to rush with much success. Basically that makes it a question of which QB has a better day and/or a turnover here or there. I think that favors Michigan but it is a close enough thing that it could go either way. If McCarthy has a game like BG or of Allar just lights it up, PSU wins.
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I watched the Nerds preview. That and this has me thinking you are probably right it comes down to QB play. It doesn't appear that either team will be able to rush with much success. Basically that makes it a question of which QB has a better day and/or a turnover here or there. I think that favors Michigan but it is a close enough thing that it could go either way. If McCarthy has a game like BG or of Allar just lights it up, PSU wins.
You’re saying it’s close enough because the Medina hometown hero is not named MCCarthy 😈
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I've watched Allar and McCarthy quite a bit this season. Allar is not nearly as good as McCarthy at delivering the ball when pressured. I'm thinking it will be a low scoring game given how good both defenses are and Michigan wins with a better offense.
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If this was a night game, I'd probably pick Penn State. But it isn't.
Michigan 20
Penn State 17
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I watched the Nerds preview. That and this has me thinking you are probably right it comes down to QB play. It doesn't appear that either team will be able to rush with much success. Basically that makes it a question of which QB has a better day and/or a turnover here or there. I think that favors Michigan but it is a close enough thing that it could go either way. If McCarthy has a game like BG or of Allar just lights it up, PSU wins.
well shoot, if McCarthy has a game like BG or first half TCU then Michigan for sure loses. Can't throw 2 Pick 6's (TCU) or 3 INT's (BG) vs a good team and expect to win- especially on the road. Flip side of that is Allar has really only played one team with a defense like Michigan's- OSU's- and he was boooooty cheeks vs that defense. And Michigan's defense might be better than Ohio State's. Michigan's defense just has better personnel in my opinion. CB Will Johnson and FS Rod Moore are elite players at their positions- Johnson is the best CB in CFB and Moore is at worst a top 5 FS imo. Ohio State doesn't have guys quite like that in the secondary imo. And while Mikey Sainistril gets beat time to time- dude is just a play-maker at the nickel and is capable of making big-time plays. And Michigan's interior DT rotation just might be the best in CFB. Kris Jenkins, Mason Graham, Kenneth Grant, and Rashaun Benny are about as good as it gets on the interior and they rotate them all game long- almost like 4 co-starters- so you have serious beef on the inside that doesn't really wear down because no one 300+ pound guy is playing 100% of the defensive snaps.
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Whatever it is, I ignore it, as irrelevant click bait. Maybe it's amazingly accurate. The only pretty accurate thing I know of is the Vegas line, and of course upsets happen.
And the Vegas line is set on how they THINK bettors will bet, and then shifts as needed. It's a great scam.
yup. they tilt it to make sure they win no matter what. house always wins. they don't get to build multi-billion dollar casinos on the strip because they lose money on bets....that's for sure.
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Michigan 24, Penn State 21
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It would be neat to hear any discussion about how the initial line is set in Vegas shops. I know the lines differ, a little, house to house. Maybe one place comes out first and the others follow closely?
I "bet" if we here all set lines on games we'd vary by quite a bit.
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Michigan 24- Penn State 13.
McCarthy’s ability to extend plays and throw accurately off platform, is the difference.
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I think McCarthy is very good, but so far in 2023 Michigan has played pedestrian competition. Penn State crushed Iowa, which arguably Iowa is mostly pedestrian (but not on defense and special teams). PSU played Ohio State to a one score margin.
I am picking Penn State, but I could be on shaky ground.
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Michigan 24- Penn State 13.
McCarthy’s ability to extend plays and throw accurately off platform, is the difference.
I really think Michigan will have to lose the game for Penn State to win more-so than Penn State winning. If that makes any sense.
JJ will have to just play god awful and stink up the joint and have a pick 6 or two and Michigan will have to make huge special teams gaffes as well.
As long as JJ plays a clean game- doesn’t even have to light it up- just take care of the ball and make a couple plays when they are there to be had- and the special teams doesn’t have any gaffes like they did vs Purdue- Michigan *should* win the game.
But it’s football. And a road game in a hostile environment. Weird shit happens sometimes. And sometimes it’s better to be lucky than it is good.
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I think McCarthy is very good, but so far in 2023 Michigan has played pedestrian competition. Penn State crushed Iowa, which arguably Iowa is mostly pedestrian (but not on defense and special teams). PSU played Ohio State to a one score margin.
I am picking Penn State, but I could be on shaky ground.
Iowa literally cannot move the ball on offense. Michigan would’ve probably whooped them just as bad if not worse.
Penn State did but didn’t play Ohio State to a one score margin. If that makes any sense. They were down 2 TD’s until they scored a cheap meaningless garbage time touchdown with 20 seconds left in the game.
Penn State absolutely could win, it’s football. They’ve got a great defense and it’s at home- those two factors alone should keep them in it and keep it a close ball game. But on paper- Michigan is just a more veteran, deeper, talented complete team and probably should win. Should win doesn’t always equal win. That’s why they play the games.
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this surprised me, didn't think Josh Wallace was playing that well...guess he has been
https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1722646981468737802?s=20
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If Chop Robinson is fully healthy it could be an issue for Michigan's offense. Michigan LT Henderson looked not too great against Purdue.
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If Chop Robinson is fully healthy it could be an issue for Michigan's offense. Michigan LT Henderson looked not too great against Purdue.
Henderson wasn’t that bad.
Purdue played a funky defense with 5 man on the los and blitzed frequently and did a great job of mixing up zone and man coverages. I don’t like Walters at all but he’s a damn good defensive coach.
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Wasn't confident going into this game, but with the Harbaugh news I feel like there is no way Penn State wins this game, as the Wolverines rally around the flag
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Michigan had zero pass attempts in the second half. ZERO! I get beating them with the running game, but zero? There was one that was canceled out by penalty, but man, zero is a crazy game plan
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Michigan had zero pass attempts in the second half. ZERO! I get beating them with the running game, but zero? There was one that was canceled out by penalty, but man, zero is a crazy game plan
Sherrone Moore trying to kill JJs Heisman campaign, so he has him when he takes over as HC next year
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And these are probably the two highest rated Big Ten QBs by NFL scouts? They'd probably both be backups at half the Pac 12 schools
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Michigan had zero pass attempts in the second half. ZERO! I get beating them with the running game, but zero? There was one that was canceled out by penalty, but man, zero is a crazy game plan
I was screaming at the tv in real time, but in retrospect Moore was right. Dude calculated correctly that there was no way that Penn State was scoring more than 17 points with that booty cheeks offense and Allar at QB. ONLY way that Penn State could've possibly won that game is if Michigan blew it and lost it. A pick 6 INT or sack/fumble scoop and score or a disastrous special teams play for Michigan was literally the only way Penn State could've won that game.
He ran the piss out of the ball, chewed clock, played field position game and tried to minimize mistakes and Michigan was basically guaranteed a victory because of that. Why take risks when you don't have to?
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Sherrone Moore trying to kill JJs Heisman campaign, so he has him when he takes over as HC next year
that's a good joke, but I think he guessed- correctly I might add- that Penn State and Allar were so bad on offense that they max they'd score was about 17 and the only way that Michigan would lose that game was if they lost by having disastrous pick 6, sack-fumble, or special teams break downs.
Moore did the right thing just running the ball and chewing clock and playing the field position game and trying to minimize mistakes in the 2nd half.
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And these are probably the two highest rated Big Ten QBs by NFL scouts? They'd probably both be backups at half the Pac 12 schools
Nah. McCarthy is quite good. Allar on the other hand pretty much sucks. Hackenberg clone. Big lumbering kid that isn't athletic and moves as fluid as I'd imagine that two retards f**cking do. Wind up, long delivery, huge arm but can't hit the broadside of the barn accurately. He's legitimately terrible.
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[img width=500 height=142.992]https://i.imgur.com/x93exW1.png[/img]
the big has zero QBs
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And these are probably the two highest rated Big Ten QBs by NFL scouts? They'd probably both be backups at half the Pac 12 schools
Not sure how we get there from a game JJ didn’t throw the ball in the final 37 minutes of the game.
id also argue the PAC 12 has some of the worst defenses in all of college football and I’m betting many of their qbs look mediocre against a PSU defense
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https://twitter.com/PardonMyTake/status/1723430211729989847?s=20
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Why would Michigan not throw the ball at all in the second half? Very curious, I’ve never seen that before even back with Bo’s teams. If Michigan wanted to pound the ball you’d think they’d throw a pass every now and then to keep the D honest.
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Why would Michigan not throw the ball at all in the second half? Very curious, I’ve never seen that before even back with Bo’s teams. Even if Michigan wanted to pound the ball you’d think they’d throw a pass every now and then to keep the D honest.
they did the right thing man. Penn State is so bad on offense but so good on defense- literally the only way they could've lost that game is with a pick 6 or sack-fumble scoop and score.
chew clock, play defense, play the field position battle and minimize mistakes on the road in a hostile environment vs an elite defense worked.
can't even complain. that was a great TEAM win. JJ showed how much of a leader and team player he really is. lot of QB's would care about stats or winning a Heisman. he doesn't give a shit. he just cares about his TEAM and winning football games. this team is as closely knit and bonded and tight as any team I've ever seen. you get that many guys all playing together and for each other- great things can happen.
they take care of business next week on the road @ Maryland they'll head into Ann Arbor to close out the season vs Ohio State in an epic battle of two top 3 teams and winner takes all. can't ask for more.
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Why would Michigan not throw the ball at all in the second half? Very curious, I’ve never seen that before even back with Bo’s teams. If Michigan wanted to pound the ball you’d think they’d throw a pass every now and then to keep the D honest.
They made an agreement with the NCAA. nCAA request.. to prove your sign program didn’t give you the advantage to win, you are not allowed to throw the ball the entire second half. Every single play must be a run. Go prove to us you can win when the opposition knows what play is coming every single time.
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They made an agreement with the NCAA. nCAA request.. to prove your sign program didn’t give you the advantage to win, you are not allowed to throw the ball the entire second half. Every single play must be a run. Go prove to us you can win when the opposition knows what play is coming every single time.
in all seriousness that 2nd half vs Penn State in Happy Valley reminded me so much of the 2021 game vs Ohio State in Ann Arbor. Michigan said let me see how much of a man you are. Let me see how tough you are. And they just pushed Penn State's shit in up front with their OL and RB's and shoved it down their throats the entire 2nd half. Same thing as OSU in 2021. OSU knew what was coming and flat out couldn't stop it. Penn State knew what was coming and flat out couldn't stop it.
It's so awesome to watch when an OL and RB's can just demoralize a defense and punk them out and smash them in the face and move them off the LOS and there's not a single fcking thing that defense can do about it.
That is what football is at the end of the day. Always has been and always is going to be a battle of toughness. When an OL can just ram it down a defenses throat and run 30 times in a row and the defense can't stop it and they know it's coming- you're gonna win lot of games.
This was really the first game all year and vs BY FAR the best defense they've seen all year where they really committed to the run game and the OL and RB's showed up big-time. On the road in one of the toughest places to play no less.
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fwiw, I think Michigan is gonna throttle PSU. I'm not a believer in the Nittany Lions. I think they have a fine defense and are a good team. I don't think they're a top-10 quality team (emphasis on 'quality', I'm not arguing they don't belong in the top ten of this year, right now) and I don't think they're going to make it particularly close.
I could be wrong.
Pfft....the score didn't have the separation I thought, but then I also thought Michigan had a coach and had discovered the forward pass.
Like General Neyland said, only three things can happen when you throw the ball, and two of them are bad.
Danged if it didn't feel like the throttling I was looking for, though. Was a mudfight, but it never felt like PSU was in danger of winning.
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Not sure what games you guys were watching. Michigan tried to run it down their throats and that mostly led to punts. If Allar didn't fumble it's a different looking game. It reminded me of I think the 2007 OSU-Michigan game where Michigan couldn't score so OSU just called the same play over and over and was happy to punt.
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in all seriousness that 2nd half vs Penn State in Happy Valley reminded me so much of the 2021 game vs Ohio State in Ann Arbor. Michigan said let me see how much of a man you are. Let me see how tough you are. And they just pushed Penn State's shit in up front with their OL and RB's and shoved it down their throats the entire 2nd half. Same thing as OSU in 2021. OSU knew what was coming and flat out couldn't stop it. Penn State knew what was coming and flat out couldn't stop it.
Not IMHO it was just PSU installed Brian Ferentz offense kept handing the ball back and the D eventually got gassed.That 2021 thrashing was just what is underlined.Yesterday UM won the 2nd half 10-6,so no
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Corum played his best game all year and Edwards finally got going a little bit with a couple explosive chunk runs.
JJ used his legs effectively when needed to pick up huge first downs. They are an entirely different animal to defend when they incorporate his running ability into the offense.
Edwards is still being widely underused. Only 10 carries today and they didn’t even try and get him involved in the passing game. He is such a weapon and they aren’t using him properly imo. He needs at least 15 carries a game and probably 5-6 pass attempts.
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I checked Franklin’s wiki page to see what his middle name was. Thought it might be Peter.
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I checked Franklin’s wiki page to see what his middle name was. Thought it might be Peter.
I thought it'd be Moron. Or Pussy.
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Apparently PSU is bouncing Mike Yurcich to the unemployment line
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Apparently Franklin thinks that might save his job
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Apparently PSU is bouncing Mike Yurcich to the unemployment line
Might be a little bit of scapegoating going on.
If every offensive coordinator that Michigan rendered neutral was terminated, that would be a lot of unemployed coordinators.
On the other hand, it wasn’t just yesterday. That offense just never looked in sync this whole entire season.
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UM only scored 4 more pts than PSU in the 2nd half so they played keep away.Basically Tressel Ball,if they can't stop you and keep shooting themselves in the foot continuously why not?
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Not sure what games you guys were watching. Michigan tried to run it down their throats and that mostly led to punts. If Allar didn't fumble it's a different looking game. It reminded me of I think the 2007 OSU-Michigan game where Michigan couldn't score so OSU just called the same play over and over and was happy to punt.
Sure, but the "what if" thing is a door that swings wide and lets all kind of unruly things in. What Allar doesn't fumble? What if Michigan didn't decide to play the game with one hand tied behind its back?
Ymmv, but for me it was a major statement to go into Happy Valley, refuse to air it out, and just line up and say we're gonna run it again for 5.5 ypc, f*** all y'all, with no signals and no passes you still can't beat us.
Despite the score it felt like Michigan had them all game and knew it, and had the other half of the arsenal waiting to go if needed, but it wasn't.
Tell you what, if McCord is gonna play like THAT, the OSU/Mich game just got that much more interesting. That's gonna be some must-see tv.
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Sure, but the "what if" thing is a door that swings wide and lets all kind of unruly things in. What Allar doesn't fumble? What if Michigan didn't decide to play the game with one hand tied behind its back?
Ymmv, but for me it was a major statement to go into Happy Valley, refuse to air it out, and just line up and say we're gonna run it again for 5.5 ypc, f*** all y'all, with no signals and no passes you still can't beat us.
Despite the score it felt like Michigan had them all game and knew it, and had the other half of the arsenal waiting to go if needed, but it wasn't.
Tell you what, if McCord is gonna play like THAT, the OSU/Mich game just got that much more interesting. That's gonna be some must-see tv.
I guess, though my thought was that Michigan didn't trust its tackles in pass protection and didn't want to give up any easy ones for PSU. Ohio State did the same thing.
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I can agree with that. So they went into a shell to be safe, and while it was slow and ugly, it was consistently effective, and it never felt to me like PSU was going to bust anything on the UM defense.
It was the greatest game of Tressel-ball ever played o.O
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Reminded me of Florida's win over LSU in 2012. Ran the ball on the final 25 plays, winning 14-6.
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Penn State fired offensive coordinator Mike Yurcich. Coach Franklin, your problems are solved. Brian Ferentz is on the market.
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as is Scott Frost
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Reminded me of Florida's win over LSU in 2012. Ran the ball on the final 25 plays, winning 14-6.
lolz, I remember that. Florida kept running GT-counter and LSU's backup Mike LB never did figure out what to do with it. Chavis and the safety kept yelling at him and he was like "Don't worry guys, this is the play I'll get it right. I won't do that again."
The world won't remember, but LSU fans will, there was a time Odell Beckham dropped everything. Very costly in that game.
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I guess, though my thought was that Michigan didn't trust its tackles in pass protection and didn't want to give up any easy ones for PSU. Ohio State did the same thing.
Chop Robinson's speed off the edge was definitely giving RT Karsen Barnhart major problems early on. But they still could've done things with the pass game and pass protection to counter that- and never even really tried.
Sherrone Moore correctly calculated that- you know what- they can't stop us from running on the gotta have it downs- and their offense is not going to move the ball on our defense at all- so why throw it?
Only way Penn State could've conceivably won that game was if pressure got to JJ and he panicked and threw a pick 6 or if he took a blindside hit off the edge and had a sack fumble/scoop & score. Literally the only way Penn State was going to win that game. That or a disastrous special teams play from Michigan. So Moore did the right thing in the end imo. Take away unnecessary risk and just run run run, chew clock, minimize risk, keep mistakes to a minimum, play the field position game and walk out with a win.
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last two games vs Penn State....
Blake Corum, 54 carries, 311 yards (5.8 ypc), 4 TDs
Donovan Edwards, 26 carries, 225 yards (8.7 ypc), 3 TDs
JJ McCarthy 15 carries, 91 yards (6.1 ypc)
These 3 players last two games, 95 carries, 627 rushing yards (6.6 YPC), 7 TD's
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https://twitter.com/ByAZuniga/status/1724068904803119410?s=20
https://twitter.com/dharris04/status/1723686356210094381?s=20
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If there's anyone who knows a thing or two about fewer receptions than expected, it's Drake Harris
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If there's anyone who knows a thing or two about fewer receptions than expected, it's Drake Harris
fact. probably the most disappointing college career for an all-time great HS player from the state of Michigan. Really thought he was going to be a Charles Rogers or Braylon level WR in college. Boy did he disappoint.
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Chop Robinson's speed off the edge was definitely giving RT Karsen Barnhart major problems early on. But they still could've done things with the pass game and pass protection to counter that- and never even really tried.
This Is what I didn’t understand. Obviously Penn State was sending the house and beating the O-line on pass blocking, but why not hit Edwards for some short passes in the middle of the field.
The pass plays I didn’t understand were the little bubble screens to try and stretch the field. That was not an effective way to beat the rush or keep it on its toes.
Penn State is very good defensively. A more experienced qb and a better coach and they’d be undefeated.
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This! It is scary. I only wish my team could run all running plays, on the road in a hostile environment, against a great defense, and not only win- but never look close to losing. And to do it with no material penalties or turnovers.
As Urban Meyer said-I don’t see any weaknesses. I don’t know how- or who- is going to beat that.
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fact. probably the most disappointing college career for an all-time great HS player from the state of Michigan. Really thought he was going to be a Charles Rogers or Braylon level WR in college. Boy did he disappoint.
He was also super old for his grade IIRC. He was already old for his grade, and then his parents held him back. He was a 20 year old HS senior. And once he stopped being able to get by on just being older and more physically mature than everyone guarding him, it fell apart
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Only way Penn State could've conceivably won that game was if.......
Their offense made about 5 or 6 plays that they failed at - not stopped