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The Power Five => Big XII => Topic started by: utee94 on October 02, 2023, 05:01:37 PM
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To keep the haiku thread clear for some more classy poetry, let's discuss the game and the leadup, here.
I just saw this, which is sort of interesting.
https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1708920168670257486?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1708920168670257486%7Ctwgr%5E59ca9b4493c7a4ca5cb4146226fda4c0a34c5442%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.surlyhorns.com%2Fboard%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FOn3sports%2Fstatus%2F1708920168670257486
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I thought this article was hilarious:
Big 12 nightmare – for the first time since 2011, a perfect OU-Texas
Bill Haisten
Tulsa World Sports Columnist & Writer
For detractors of the SEC-bound Sooners and Longhorns, there is the ongoing development of the worst-case scenario – that OU and Texas would be the Big 12's best teams during their final season in the league.
In August, while speaking during a Red Raider Club event in Lubbock, Big 12 Commissioner Brett Yormark openly rooted for Texas Tech to beat Texas this season. While the Red Raiders already have three losses, Texas has a signature win over Alabama.
For the first time since 2011 and only the sixth time in the last 24 seasons, OU-Texas is a clash of an undefeated Sooner squad and an undefeated Longhorn squad.
When it happened in 2001, 2002, 2004 and 2011, Oklahoma prevailed each time. When it happened in 2008, Mack Brown's fifth-ranked Longhorns defeated the top-ranked Sooners 45-35.
OU won the 2008 conference trophy, however, with a Big 12 Championship victory over Missouri. When the Sooners were given the golden ticket to face Florida for the BCS national championship, Texas fans were livid.
As the college football season drives into October, OU and Texas are the only unbeaten Big 12 members. During the OU-Texas build-up, this game won't be celebrated as a flex of Big 12 strength.
Instead, there will be a billion reminders that OU and Texas are headed to the SEC. It's a great Big 12 match-up that really isn't good for the Big 12.
If Yormark and other Big 12 loyalists are turned off by a nationally significant OU-Texas game in the Cotton Bowl, they'll be sick if there's an OU-Texas rematch in the conference championship game.
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Yeah this is shaping up to be a mess for the B12.
I don't have any personal animosity for the B12, I really liked the conference in its original incarnation and wish it could have persisted in that form.
But I do have plenty of animosity for the current B12 commissioner who is actively, openly, publicly rooting against Texas. I'd love to see Texas run the table, win the B12, and then shove the trophy up that dude's ass.
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Weather for Dallas on Saturday-- looks like it'll be a cool one!
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Yeah this is shaping up to be a mess for the B12.
I don't have any personal animosity for the B12, I really liked the conference in its original incarnation and wish it could have persisted in that form.
But I do have plenty of animosity for the current B12 commissioner who is actively, openly, publicly rooting against Texas. I'd love to see Texas OU run the table, win the B12, and then shove the trophy up that dude's ass.
I agree with all of that once I fixed the last sentence. :)
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Oh yeah? Well...
(https://i.imgur.com/c182B6X.png)
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Is OU really favored, or is this just some ESPN smoke ? (https://i.imgur.com/V2BpgEZ.png)
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My own observations....OU may be good, but we don't know because they have not really played any tough games ( I acknowledge that they originally had Georgia scheduled but had to cancel due to the conference change). Texas did win at Alabama, and has played well since. I think Texas is going to win this one handily, and issues from last seasons OU dismal team will reappear. I'm thinking like 35-10, but not that close type of game.
I also believe that there is a lot of football left to be played in the Big 12, and there may be another contendor before this season is over and neither OU nor Texas could end up winning it all. October will define that.
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ESPN's FPI power ranking loves the Sooners so I assume that's their actual take on it.
However, their SOS rankings to date have Texas at 16 and OU at 82.
So that clears everything up, right?
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Texas is a 6.5 point favorite according to Vegas
the game will be a close one
Texas 34 OU 27
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Last line I saw was Texas by 6.5 which seems low to me. Sooners are going to have to catch some breaks to have a chance.
edit - 320 posted as I was posting. Put a gun to my head and I'd take UT.
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Yeah this is shaping up to be a mess for the B12.
I don't think there's any scenario where this wasn't going to be a mess for the B12.
UT and OU could both go 0-11-1, and they'd still be taking the marquee names of the conference and their national interest with them.
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But I do have plenty of animosity for the current B12 commissioner who is actively, openly, publicly rooting against Texas. I'd love to see Texas run the table, win the B12, and then shove the trophy up that dude's ass.
That's the spirit.
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The problem of OU's metrics is that it's like giving a 4th grade arithmetic test to AP high schoolers. They're pretty much going to ace it, so you're left examining minute differences in timing to make some semblance of a rank.
In other words, the Sooners have played a box full of wet tissue paper thus far. Thus far, they've torn right through all of it.
They may well be all that and a bag of pretzels, but I'd sure hate for this to be the first time to be hit in the mouth.
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The problem of OU's metrics is that it's like giving a 4th grade arithmetic test to AP high schoolers. They're pretty much going to ace it, so you're left examining minute differences in timing to make some semblance of a rank.
In other words, the Sooners have played a box full of wet tissue paper thus far. Thus far, they've torn right through all of it.
They may well be all that and a bag of pretzels, but I'd sure hate for this to be the first time to be hit in the mouth.
I can summarize.
It's 4:08 PM, and ou still sucks!
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If you haven't seen OU this year, well, it is different.
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This is what I'll be watching instead of lsu/mizzou. I hope it's entertaining enough to take my mind off the other one.
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Looking forward to more of this tomorrow:
(https://i.imgur.com/Xf3g1XR.jpg)
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I've never been to the Cotton Bowl. What kind of shape is it in these days? Am I correct that only one FB game is played there these days, being the RRR? I've always heard it's kind of decrepit.
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BOOMER SOONER!!!
AWESOME GAME!!!
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Congratulations
just hope we get a rematch
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Agree, 320.
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Damn. Totally unexpected finish but very thrilling.
Lots of football left to play in the Big 12. The irony is neither team may make it back to the CCG.
See you both in the SEC.
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Great game by two good teams, I suspect.
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I've never been to the Cotton Bowl. What kind of shape is it in these days? Am I correct that only one FB game is played there these days, being the RRR? I've always heard it's kind of decrepit.
Orange Bowl is a decrepit POS. The Cotton Bowl has been recently renovated and is in good shape. It's still an old stadium and some things can't ever be corrected, but Texas and OU have it built into the contract that the City of Dallas must stay up to date on repairs and renovations, or the series contract ends. I'd say the Cotton Bowl is actually in much better shape than the Rose Bowl, these days.
There are other games played there every year, even during the Fair. Grambling and Prarie View play there I think every year, and one other college game. And then there are also various DISD high school games played there, and some high school playoff games too.
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Anyway, congrats to the Sooners. They played faster and hit harder.
But Texas self-destructed in so many ways, I really like our chances in case of a rematch. Sort of the reverse of 2018 season where the better team "on paper" lost the first game, and then came back and won the second.
Damn. Totally unexpected finish but very thrilling.
Lots of football left to play in the Big 12. The irony is neither team may make it back to the CCG.
See you both in the SEC.
I'll be surprised if BOTH teams don't make it back. Not because both are great (although I think both are pretty good) but mostly because the rest of the B12 is just SO terrible this year.
Surprisingly, outside of Georgia, the SEC looks pretty bad this year too. Strange season.
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I agree. Lots of football left but both teams are heavily favored in their remaining games. It seemed to me OU had better team speed but UT was more physical and it showed in the 4th quarter. Coaching was excellent on both sides. Sooner special teams sucked.
I think it is likely UT would win a rematch in the CCG but I want to see it played.
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I agree. Lots of football left but both teams are heavily favored in their remaining games. It seemed to me OU had better team speed but UT was more physical and it showed in the 4th quarter. Coaching was excellent on both sides. Sooner special teams sucked.
I think it is likely UT would win a rematch in the CCG but I want to see it played.
It was a game of two heavyweights, for the first time in a long time. I want to see MORE of that, but of course with Texas winning more often than not. :)
Best of luck the rest of the season, unless/until we meet again in December.
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Same here. I hope both teams get healed up & stay healthy for the rest of the season. We lost our leading WR for the season and starting RG, CB and backup CB for an unknown amount of time. Glad it is a bye week.