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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: 847badgerfan on June 25, 2023, 10:00:54 AM
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I guess it's on.
The Impact: Landyn Locke is a Badger (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/Article/The-Impact-Landyn-Locke-is-a-Badger-211973274/)
This is the brother of current freshman UW backup QB Breadon Locke, who transferred in from Mississippi State, 6 months ago.
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5* QB Bryce Underwood (6'3, 210) of Belleville, Michigan- the #1 player in the nation and #1 QB in the 2025 class announced he's going to be committing January 6th.
Looks like Ohio State is probably on the outs now that they took a 2025 QB commit, they were the main competitor to Michigan in the region. LSU and Alabama look like the competition. Michigan has surged in this recruitment, Underwood is a must get and easily the best prospect the state of Michigan has produced in at least 20 years. He'd be the #1 player and #1 QB in the '24 class if he was in it imo.
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well, then... UNL in the top 4 for Stoney!
Heck, UNL was in the top 4 for Raiola
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The #1 QB and #1 player overall in the nation in the 247Composite- 5* QB Bryce Underwood (6'3, 210) of Belleville, MI visited Michigan this weekend for their BBQ at the Big House 'crootin event. He just visited LSU this weekend as well for a recruiting event they put on. He's going to commit January 2024, and it's looking more and more like it's coming down to those two schools. Bama is trying to get in on him hard but tea leaves seem to suggest it's pretty much all M/LSU at the moment.
Don't think it's hyperbole at all to say Jeem's 2025 class is a monumental failure if he doesn't keep Underwood home. The state has not produced a QB this gifted since Drew Henson 25+ years ago. Underwood will wind up being the best QB recruit since Trevor Lawerence imo. He's only 15 and technically could be a 2026- and he's that physically gifted and on that sort of track. For Jeem to lose him would be devastating. Jeem has to sell everything short of his soul to keep that kid home or 2025 class is already a failure.
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a bit premature
let me know how it turns out
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a bit premature
let me know how it turns out
yes but also no bc he's committing in 4-5 months.
Michigan lost out on 5* QB Dante Moore in '23 and he was legit. Underwood is even more legit. They cannot lose out on him or it's a complete failure on Jeem's behalf. State does not produce that much high end talent on a yearly basis. And when it is producing elite talent- at the most important position on the entire field- well you have to keep that sh!t home or you failed at doing your job.
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#1 player overall 5* QB Bryce Underwood was just at Michigan's campus again yesterday. Came back to visit with Jeem and Co just days after he was already there over the weekend for their little BBQ at the Big House- where they served that disgusting kids menu food and tried to pass that off as "BBQ".
This kid has been to Michigan so much in the last few months since they hired the new QB coach...starting to think they might actually land him...
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He is a cousin of the late Brent Moss, who starred as an RB at Wisconsin and helped them to the Rose Bowl in 1993.
The DB had offers from Duke, Maryland, Michigan State, NC State, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Penn State, Ole Miss, Rutgers, South Carolina, Syracuse, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, and other non P5 schools.
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#1 QB and #1 player in the nation per 247Composite - best HS prospect state of MI has produced since Charles Rogers and best QB since Drew Henson.....freaking must get. LSU/Michigan battle....Jeem needs to sell his soul for this one...
https://twitter.com/SamWebb77/status/1695249898541576622?s=20
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Coach Prime sniffing around Michigan's territory, trying to get 5* #1 player and #1 QB in the nation Bryce Underwood. Underwood will visit Colorado for their home game vs USC now.
I was pro-Coach Prime but if he somehow swoops in out of nowhere and steals Bryce Underwood from Michigan, then well, f*ck that guy. Rooting for Nebraska to pull off the upset now and for USC to blow them off the field when Underwood visits. C'mon Caleb.
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#1 player in 2025 class, QB Bryce Underwood (6'3, 205) of Belleville, Michigan is down to a final top 7. Michigan, LSU, Bama, Oregon, Penn State, Florida State, and Colorado.
Was thought to long be a Michigan-LSU battle, but Prime was sniffing around trying to get in there. Colorado just got a commitment from a top 100 player at QB from Georgia in the 2025 class. Would be a bit of a shocker if he went to a school that already had a top rated QB commit- as that typically doesn't happen in today's landscape. Announcing January 6th. Probably still a Michigan-LSU battle.
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Good to keep this one home. Not a bad offer list either.
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Hey @Mdot21 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1595) I saw an interview with this kid last evening, and I've seen him play a bit on TV. Seems like a really good one, and a good kid, from down the road a bit.
Carter Smith, Bishop Verot , Quarterback (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/Player/carter-smith-46137774/)
Verot plays Booker (Sarasota) in the 2S Q finals this Friday. I'll keep a lookout for ya.
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Nebraska has added a critical piece to their 2024 recruiting class with OL Grant Brix from Logan (Iowa) Logan-Magnolia. Brix is the No. 2 IOL according to On3, the No. 56 player in the nation overall, and the No. 1 player in Iowa in the 2024 class.
The Huskers have landed a significant cornerstone for their 2024 class. Grant Brix announced via social media that he has committed to Nebraska. The four-star OL has previously announced a top list of Oklahoma, Kansas State, Alabama, and Nebraska.
Brix took four official visits in June, visiting each of his top four schools. He also took recent unofficial visits to Nebraska and Oklahoma. Since this summer, the Huskers and the Sooners were perceived to be leading for Brix.
Brix believes that Matt Rhule will lead Nebraska back
“The biggest thing was the belief in Coach Rhule and the program and that it’s going to get back to where everyone in Nebraska wants it to be,” Brix said. “On top of the belief in the program, I have a belief in Coach Campbell and Coach Raiola to develop me.”
There is one crucial decision down for Brix and one to go. Now, he must decide whether to enroll early at Nebraska or join the team in June.
Brix is the fifth offensive lineman in the class for Nebraska, joining Preston Taumua, Gibson Pyle, Davidson, and Peters. Grant Brix becomes the 27th known commitment in the 2024 class for Nebraska. Prior to Brix’s commitment, the Huskers had the No. 26 class in the nation and No. 7 in the conference.
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This is the 2025 thread.
Wisconsin has landed its fourth commitment in the class of 2025 as Germantown (Wis.) linebacker Cooper Catalano (https://247sports.com/Player/cooper-catalano-46135740) made the call to head coach Luke Fickell (https://247sports.com/Coach/luke-fickell-88) and the Badgers on Tuesday.
Catalano chose UW over other scholarship offers from Kansas, Michigan State, Minnesota, Iowa State, and Illinois.
Cooper Catalano, Germantown, Linebacker (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/Player/cooper-catalano-46135740/)
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This is the 2025 thread.
oops
geez, youse guys get ahead of yerselves
2024 EARLY signing period hasn't even started
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Hey @Mdot21 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1595) I saw an interview with this kid last evening, and I've seen him play a bit on TV. Seems like a really good one, and a good kid, from down the road a bit.
Carter Smith, Bishop Verot , Quarterback (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/Player/carter-smith-46137774/)
Verot plays Booker (Sarasota) in the 2S Q finals this Friday. I'll keep a lookout for ya.
Meh. They need to sell their souls for Bryce Underwood. Or get Dante Moore in the portal. Or QB 'crootin is a failure.
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Verot lost.
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so I guess all is not lost with 5* QB and #1 player in the nation Bryce Underwood.
Underwood visited for the Ohio State game, was present for Michigan's in-home visits for other commits, and showed up today to Ann Arbor to meet with the coaches.
Sell that soul Jeem, lock him up.
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so I guess all is not lost with 5* QB and #1 player in the nation Bryce Underwood.
Underwood visited for the Ohio State game, was present for Michigan's in-home visits for other commits, and showed up today to Ann Arbor to meet with the coaches.
Sell that soul Jeem, lock him up.
Do they still have an early signing period?
B/C if all Jeem can get is a verbal, it's gonna go away when he gets an NFL job before signing day.
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The early signing period typically occurs in December and has become an essential date on the college football calendar. For the 2023-2024 academic year, it is scheduled for December 20, 2023
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Do they still have an early signing period?
B/C if all Jeem can get is a verbal, it's gonna go away when he gets an NFL job before signing day.
https://twitter.com/RJ_cfb/status/1732794741685731386?s=20
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Wisconsin commit ranked #1 in Texas. I'll take it. His brother is also on the team. Played a few games when Mordecai went down this season.
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Meh. They need to sell their souls for Bryce Underwood. Or get Dante Moore in the portal. Or QB 'crootin is a failure.
Hey @Mdot21 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1595) this one's for you. Might be more than "Meh" with this kid.
Bishop Verot quarterback Carter Smith is this year’s Gatorade Florida Football Player of the Year.
SWFL quarterback joins exclusive club of football greats (winknews.com) (https://winknews.com/2024/01/04/swfl-quarterback-joins-exclusive-club-of-football-greats/)
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Hey @Mdot21 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1595) this one's for you. Might be more than "Meh" with this kid.
Bishop Verot quarterback Carter Smith is this year’s Gatorade Florida Football Player of the Year.
SWFL quarterback joins exclusive club of football greats (winknews.com) (https://winknews.com/2024/01/04/swfl-quarterback-joins-exclusive-club-of-football-greats/)
literally do not care about this kid or some Gatorade player of the year award. kid is meh, in my opinion. the only QB I can remember being worth a piss from the state of Florida is Tim Tebow. Florida produces the best football talent there is. Except for QB. Michigan probably only took his commitment because they already knew they weren't getting Bryce Underwood.
Bryce Underwood might be the best QB prospect I have ever seen. And he goes to HS like 25 minutes from Ann Arbor. When he picks LSU tomorrow its going to f**king SUCK.
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Bryce Underwood to LSU, as expected
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Bryce Underwood to LSU, as expected
f'ing sucks. big-time failure by Jeem to not land this kid, 25-30 mins from his backyard.
Michigan was playing catch up for a year or so- Underwood and his family absolutely despised Matt Weiss. Kirk Campbell was able to get Michigan back into it, but LSU already had a sizable lead by then.
Michigan taking a highly rated QB in '24 (Jadyn Davis- meanwhile LSU took a meh rated QB in comparison), Jeem taking the commitment of a '25 QB he 100% could've slow played and waited on, and Jeem's future up in the air (almost assuredly going NFL) - OBVIOUSLY didn't help things.
I will say- don't think this one is over though. I think IF Jeem does leave- that Sherrone Moore will get promoted and he'll do well at Michigan- and the Purple faced a*hole in Baton Rouge will be on thin ice if he has another disappointing season in '24. Long way til now and signing day for the 2025 class.
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I mean LSU has also had 2 Heisman winning QBs (granted under different coaching) in 5 years. Harbaugh's offense has people wondering if a projected first round QB is actually good, because he is rarely asked to do anything.
That said, becoming a first round pick while not being asked to do a ton seems like a sweet gig. Obviously Matt Cassell is the GOAT in that category
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I mean LSU has also had 2 Heisman winning QBs (granted under different coaching) in 5 years. Harbaugh's offense has people wondering if a projected first round QB is actually good, because he is rarely asked to do anything.
That said, becoming a first round pick while not being asked to do a ton seems like a sweet gig. Obviously Matt Cassell is the GOAT in that category
Totally get that LSU has had 2 Heisman winning QB's in 5 years, but Joey B wasn't part of this LSU staff or program. I think obviously the real sell is what Brian Kelly did with Jayden Daniels- turning him from probably a 3rd rd pick to Heisman winner and probable top 10-15 pick in this next draft.
Having said that, Jeem's program has now gone 40-3 in the last 3 years with 3 straight wins over Ohio State, 3 straight B1G titles, 3 straight CFP appearances, and now a Natty. You'd think that'd catch the eye of the home town kid who goes to HS 30 mins away from The Big House and whose family are all Michigan fans. But nah.
Oh and Matt Cassell was a 7th rd pick I think.
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I can't understand why kids choose to play for Brian Kelly.
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I can't understand why kids choose to play for Brian Kelly.
Well he has a fantastic fake southern accent, for one!
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I don't get what the fuss is. Even if he signs with LSU next year, there's a 50% chance he transfers out, quite possibly home to Michigan, a la Quinn Ewers to Ohio State oops back to Texas.
I refuse to follow recruiting anymore because unrestricted portaling and NIL have turned this sport into perpetual free agency, and half the kids we recruit don't stay here anymore. There is literally zero excitement on signing day, because it's utterly meaningless now. Although nothing is less than zero, the verbal commitment of a kid who has a year til signing, who may then portal out at any time, is somehow even less than utterly meaningless. Heck, I'd say more than 50% chance he doesn't stick with LSU, because he's going to want to play right away, and Nussmeier is almost certainly not leaving after next season, and he's going to be nigh impossible for a true freshman to beat out.
If I'm a Michigan fan, I just sit tight and wait for the 50+% chance he finds his way to Michigan no matter what. Certainly not anything the current NCs should be worrying about.
And of course there's the age-old fizzle factor even when we do get guys. According to something I read this morning, Underwood would be among LSU's top 10 signees of the past two decades, at #3 between #4 Patrick Peterson and #2 Russell Shepard. The WR committed to us would be #6 between #7 Derek Stingley and #5 Arik Gilbert. Years ago I outlined for Eric Cartmann all the 5-stars who had busted for us, and how many 4 and some 3 stars were generally our big players. But just looking at this quick, short list, Patrick Peterson was a hit, obviously. Stingley was great, but we only got one real season from him as he stayed hurt after that. Russell Shepard is a big LOL....he played for us, but never at QB, and he was an extremely meh WR. Arik Gilbert transferred out before ever seeing the field. Others include #10 Harold Perkins (hit), #9 Craig Loston (I mean.....pretty decent, but hardly anyone who springs to mind if I were rating the top 10 players of the last 20 years), #8 Kevin Toliver II (again, pretty decent, but same thing.....hardly a CB who springs to mind in the string of DBs we produced for 15+ years), and #1 Leonard Fournette (hit). My point is, even if Underwood came to LSU and stayed put, that list indicates a decent chance he won't pan out to be the superstar everybody thinks.
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Well he has a fantastic fake southern accent, for one!
Don't forget his killer dance moves.
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I can't understand why kids choose to play for Brian Kelly.
Coach Kelly's face turns purple during games.
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I can't understand why kids choose to play for Brian Kelly.
yeah, it honestly kind of blows my mind. Kelly is a giant twat.
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I don't get what the fuss is. Even if he signs with LSU next year, there's a 50% chance he transfers out, quite possibly home to Michigan, a la Quinn Ewers to Ohio State oops back to Texas.
I refuse to follow recruiting anymore because unrestricted portaling and NIL have turned this sport into perpetual free agency, and half the kids we recruit don't stay here anymore. There is literally zero excitement on signing day, because it's utterly meaningless now. Although nothing is less than zero, the verbal commitment of a kid who has a year til signing, who may then portal out at any time, is somehow even less than utterly meaningless. Heck, I'd say more than 50% chance he doesn't stick with LSU, because he's going to want to play right away, and Nussmeier is almost certainly not leaving after next season, and he's going to be nigh impossible for a true freshman to beat out.
If I'm a Michigan fan, I just sit tight and wait for the 50+% chance he finds his way to Michigan no matter what. Certainly not anything the current NCs should be worrying about.
And of course there's the age-old fizzle factor even when we do get guys. According to something I read this morning, Underwood would be among LSU's top 10 signees of the past two decades, at #3 between #4 Patrick Peterson and #2 Russell Shepard. The WR committed to us would be #6 between #7 Derek Stingley and #5 Arik Gilbert. Years ago I outlined for Eric Cartmann all the 5-stars who had busted for us, and how many 4 and some 3 stars were generally our big players. But just looking at this quick, short list, Patrick Peterson was a hit, obviously. Stingley was great, but we only got one real season from him as he stayed hurt after that. Russell Shepard is a big LOL....he played for us, but never at QB, and he was an extremely meh WR. Arik Gilbert transferred out before ever seeing the field. Others include #10 Harold Perkins (hit), #9 Craig Loston (I mean.....pretty decent, but hardly anyone who springs to mind if I were rating the top 10 players of the last 20 years), #8 Kevin Toliver II (again, pretty decent, but same thing.....hardly a CB who springs to mind in the string of DBs we produced for 15+ years), and #1 Leonard Fournette (hit). My point is, even if Underwood came to LSU and stayed put, that list indicates a decent chance he won't pan out to be the superstar everybody thinks.
yeah this is all very true. just look at the 5* QB's from the '23 class. Dante Moore lasted not even a year at UCLA and same for Malachi Nelson at USC.
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Acquiring talent is important. What I think is even more important moving into the future is culture and building one that guys want to stay and build success long term. Teams filled with "free agents" moving around all the time may be powerful, may have winning seasons, but will fall short in title situations in my opinion. There has always been something about closely bonded teams that end up on top. There's certainly exceptions to that, where talent trumps the warm and fuzzy family culture, but the latter is more powerful than a lot of people realize. Michigan has been nowhere near #1 in recruiting and look where it landed. Losing a home state, high ceiling qb isn't ideal, but maybe he's just not the right fit. If there's anywhere that's a bigger red flag to me it's been at WR.
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I think you're correct about culture, but I'll point out that Michigan is just on the right side of the 50% blue-chip threshold supposedly required to win an NC, according to the people that calculate these things.
So if you get 50+% blue chip talent and have the right culture.....well, we saw what happens.
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It's pretty obvious, but going forward, the best teams are going to be the ones where the coaches and administrators can blend and navigate both the team-building chemistry, and the all-star one-and-done types, whether they're new recruits, or portal transfers. You're not going to be able to get it done, consistently, without balancing both of those.
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Wisconsin lands ATH/DB Cody Haddad following junior day (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/article/cody-haddad-wisconsin-badgers-football-recruiting-225587326/)
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Wisconsin lands ATH/DB Cody Haddad following junior day (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/article/cody-haddad-wisconsin-badgers-football-recruiting-225587326/)
Cleveland Kid
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lands a verbal?
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#6 for Big Red.
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Cleveland Kid
Ryan Day can kiss my ass.
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aTm and Iowa also offered.
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Ryan Day can kiss my ass.
Poaching Ohio again Dantonio and Big Barry back
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It pisses me off that Wisconsin does the scouting for the big boys. Happens in hoops too, even more.
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well, quit scouting
ya don't have to offer so early
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It pisses me off that Wisconsin does the scouting for the big boys. Happens in hoops too, even more.
you really think Ohio State didn't do it's own scouting of this kid? every school does scouting. if Ohio State offered the kid, it's because they scouted him either on film or in person or both and liked what they saw....
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sure, sure, they scouted the kid because the Badgers offered
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Another one. Has a Tennessee offer among others. Good job by the staff here.
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youse Badgers know why his kid was let go?
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Wisconsin had identified Kahmir Prescott early and made him one of its top defensive back targets for this cycle. The Badgers' defensive coordinator, Mike Tressel, also utilizes a base 3-3-5 system and saw Prescott's skill set as a great fit. Tressel wanted Prescott to play field safety and nickel in his system.
Kahmir made his Wisconsin commitment public on April 27 and returned to Madison for his official visit June 2-4, essentially shutting down his recruitment for the next seven months. Wisconsin and Prescott parted ways as the early signing period approached, with Prescott officially decommitting on Dec. 7. Whether it was a numbers crunch with the Badgers or a concern over eligibility we might never know, but it certainly wasn't because of a lack of talent.
A handful of schools reached out immediately when Prescott came back on the market, with Syracuse and Buffalo making the biggest push. The 6-foot-1, 190-pound Prescott decided to hold off on signing and take his recruitment into February to see what other opportunities would present themselves after the dust settled from the early signing period.
That decision helped Nebraska make a play in January.
Prescott announced his commitment to Nebraska during the traditional signing day, Feb .7. He will be one of the four known members of this class - along with Evan Taylor, Xander Ruggeroli and Kamdyn Koch - who will be NIL-funded premium walk-ons.
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Two things.
They did not like his senior film, and it was not clear they could get him admitted.
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they think they can develop players
and they will certainly get him admitted
We shall see how it goes
half of these kids never play a snap
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Seems like a good kid. I hope it works out in Lincoln.
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it usually works out for the good kids
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Ryan Day can kiss my ass.
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aTm and Iowa also offered.
Decommitted. F Ryan Day.
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tOSU offered him in January - and he's from St Ignatius like 15 miles from where I live. And a Buckeye Fan growing up so if no NIL coin was involved sour apples
from https://www.buckys5thquarter.com/
A three-star athlete out of Ohio, Haddad is expected to play safety at Wisconsin, but his versatility could change opinions over the next year.
Haddad was a visitor at Wisconsin’s junior day last weekend and received an in-school visit before committing to the program. However, there may be some competition for the Ohio native now.
Following his commitment to Wisconsin, Haddad revealed two offers: Iowa and Ohio State, of which the latter is more concerning.
Haddad is an in-state player for the Buckeyes, whose stock could soar up with another good season, potentially leading him to more national interest.
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Decommitted. F Ryan Day.
Day has a machine there right now. At this point, if a kid has an Ohio State offer I kind of just expect him to go there now.
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Especially if he's from Ohio.
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OK now apologize to Ryan Day & F UW Hoops
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Nope.
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flood of crystal ballz have come in for Michigan for 247Composite top 100 player (#96 overall in nation, #5 overall in Ohio) 4* CB Dawayne Galloway (6'1, 175) from Ohio. Now normally this would be newsworthy, but freaking Ohio State ya see already has the #1 and #2 CB's in the nation already committed in 5*'s Devin Sanchez and Na'keem Offord. Bastages.
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Signing day is a L-O-N-G way off
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Signing day is a L-O-N-G way off
very true. OSU loses one of their out of state 5* CB’s they probably come circling back around on the instate kid and he’s gonna flip. just the way it is when OSU wants an instate kid. Right now they don’t want him.
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The 2025 transfer portal is a L-O-N-G way off
FIFY