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The Power Five => SEC => Topic started by: Gigem on June 23, 2023, 01:37:48 PM
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Well, since folks in the SEC hang out on their FRONT porches a lot, and we really didn't have a general topic thread that I could see, stop for a bit and hang out and discuss SEC items.
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https://twitter.com/SSN_TAMU/status/1672036716398489601
So apparently LSU had to vacate some wins, so they don't get to keep the wins, but we get to keep the losses.
LSU is 3-4 against A&M in the SEC and A&M is 4-7 against LSU in the SEC.
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Two teams so pathetic they have losing records against each other ,,,,,, jk,
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CWS- SEC vs SEC.
I think we won the series vs Fla earlier this year.
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I'll come back in one year, to chant "SEC SEC SEC" with all of you.
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That's pretty out of fashion now.
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That's pretty out of fashion now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBbo0slWMW4
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Just tryin' to get our new members caught up after beating some Texas team or other 65-7 ...
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Just tryin' to get our new members caught up after beating some Texas team or other 65-7 ...
Scoreboard, beeeyotch!
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Yeah, several times in fact. But one of the losses has to hurt a bit, never should have happened.
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Yeah the 1984 Cotton Bowl was definitely a more important game than the 2019 Sugar Bowl.
Turns out in 1984, we really didn't want to be there anyway.
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Texas leads the series 4-1, I see, which is not much of a series of course. UGA played OU only once so far. So, the upcoming games will be relatively novel, but of course so would have been the scheduled OOC games.
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I'm very excited to see Florida and Texas on the same field. Hasn't happened since 1940.
In 2024, we play:
Texas and A&M
FSU and Miami
LSU
Georgia
Tennessee
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Fun stuff.
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Yup, in 2024 we get to play Michigan, OU, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, and Texas A&M. I'm looking forward to it.
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Yup, in 2024 we get to play Michigan, OU, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, and Texas A&M. I'm looking forward to it.
Me two, that is some solid footballin'.
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https://athlonsports.com/college-football/report-sec-comes-to-decision-on-future-location-of-sec-football-championship-game
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Any blowback from the CCG remaining in Atlanta ? Nashville and Dallas were mentioned as wanting to host. Is this like the CWS always being in Omaha every year type deal?
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My guess is it goes to whoever has the money. I think spreading it around would be fine even though I personally like having it here.
I think having the CFB HoF next door is an edge, and Atlanta usually has OK weather outside relative to Nash/Dallas.
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Does the weather matter much when the game is played inside a dome?
I’m sure that Florida, Texas, and other locations would be just as good.
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I think the weather outside relates to fan comfort if they like walking around a bit. Indy a couple years back was fine in the dome but the weather outside likely precluded some festivities.
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2023 SEC Football Media Days: How preseason order of finish should look (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/longformarticle/2023-sec-football-media-days-how-preseason-order-of-finish-shoul-212887755/#2197236)
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2024 SEC Media Days to be held in Dallas, Texas.
https://www.si.com/college/olemiss/football/ole-miss-rebels-sec-media-days-2024-texas-longhorns-oklahoma-sooners
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I don't think the SECCG would move unless there was drama with Atlanta.
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I don't think the SECCG would move unless there was drama with Atlanta.
SEC Leadership brought A&M and eventually Texas into the conference for a reason. Many SEC programs already sell out a game per year for a chance to play OOC opponents at neutral sites in Dallas and Houston. It's obvious, that there's some real recruiting value in occasionally playing the SECCG within the borders of the state of Texas.
I'm not saying it's definitely going to happen or that it should happen or that I wish it to happen, but from a business standpoint, it's a slam dunk. And since the primary purpose of CCGs is to generate value for the conference members, I'd be pretty surprised if it doesn't eventually happen, every now and then.
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Yeah, ATL is pretty far east in the SEC map of course, and has been for a while. I agree at some point it will shift to Dallas a time or three.
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a jerryworld/atl rotation makes perfect sense and i think will eventually happen. nashville only if they build a dome.
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Notable game lines
North Carolina (https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/153/north-carolina-tar-heels) (-3.5) at South Carolina (https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/2579/south-carolina-gamecocks)
Saturday Sept 2, 1:30 p.m. ET, Bank of America Stadium, Charlotte, North Carolina
LSU (https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/99/lsu-tigers) (-2.5) at Florida State (https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/52/florida-state-seminoles)
Sunday Sept 3, 7:30 p.m. ET on ABC, Camping World Stadium, Orlando, Florida
Texas (https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/251/texas-longhorns)at Alabama (https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/333/alabama-crimson-tide) (-7)
Saturday Sept 9, Bryant-Denny Stadium, Tuscaloosa, Alabama
LSU (https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/99/lsu-tigers) (-5) at Ole Miss (https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/145/ole-miss-rebels)
Saturday, Sept. 30, Vaught-Hemingway Stadium, Oxford, Mississippi
LSU (https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/99/lsu-tigers) at Alabama (https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/333/alabama-crimson-tide) (-6.5)
Saturday Nov. 4, Bryant-Denny Stadium, Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Georgia (https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/61/georgia-bulldogs) (-8) at Tennessee (https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/2633/tennessee-volunteers)
Saturday Nov. 18, Neyland Stadium, Knoxville, Tennessee
Florida State (https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/52/florida-state-seminoles) (-7.5) at Florida (https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/57/florida-gators)
Saturday Nov. 25, Ben Hill Griffin Stadium, Gainesville, Florida
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Did anybody see the Netflix Johnny Football documentary? No real surprises there. He partied his way through college, partied his way out of NFL. Massive addiction problems. Personal problems. Frankly I was kinda relieved that it didn't really put A&M in too bad a light, but it's obvious A&M looked the other way on a bunch of stuff ( as does every school I think).
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I did not notice it. I am watching the Lincoln Lawyer Round 2 now.
The book/series was excellent. The series is only loosely based on.
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I liked the first season. The second season, not so much.
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Me as well, but second season was still decent.
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Wife calls it "harmless fluff." I pretty well agree. Nothing ground-breaking or particularly memorable, but it's decent enough to pass some free time in the evenings if you have it.
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I noticed Aaron Murray was calling the LSU game this past weekend. I didn't know he'd gone into broadcasting.
I thought he did quite well. His voice....I mean his cadence, public speech tambre, etc., could use a little work, but overall he nailed it as an analyst, I thought.....or color commentator, whatever you want to call it. He was much better than Dusty Dvoraczk or Greg McElroy when they started out, and they've both improved significantly now to the point I don't mind them.
I think Murray can improve at least that much, in which case I think he's too good to keep on scrub games forever. He'll probably do a couple years on the SECN/+ until he finds his groove and then I expect he'll get better pairings/games.
I haven't always been old enough to remember former players who transition to the booth. It's "interesting" when I can remember the playing days of announcers.
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Murray does some pod cast thing which is about as good as such things go, I think, I watched a few of them, the better ones are his interviews of players.
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Good run, but it doesn't hurt that the east has been crap salad.
I'm probably just a West homer, but the one-game differential for Saban in the West > Kirby's run in the East.
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Yeah, the East has mostly been mediocre of late, including this season I think. Maybe Mizzou is good, maybe the Vols. USCe is worse than most expected and UK has fallen off, which is kind of normal. Florida has issues yet. Auburn is down, the locked West opponent, and they get Ole Miss at home this year.
Plus they dropped Oklahoma because of stuff.
Tech is pretty bad.
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Starting in about 2010 the East took a sudden nosedive. Florida faltered badly after the Tebow teams, occasionally rising far enough up to be "pretty tough," but nothing like Florida. UGA also had some pretty bad years in there as well, but a few good teams too. Tennessee hasn't been what I used to think of as Tennessee since like 2001. A lot of bad seasons and program management, occasionally some good teams like last year, but not anything that makes me think they're in contention for an NC.
Those are the standard-bearers, the three teams that have the history and resources to be elite. When USC or Kentucky struggles, eh, what else is new. If the Big 3 are down, the whole division languishes.
UGA has been steadily getting tougher and more consistent under Kirby, making that division maybe as hard to play through as the West. However, by definition that doesn't hurt UGA's chances of competing in the division, unless you can somehow get an L in the Spring Game. Missouri seems to be on to something this year.
Conversely, the West is cycling down, at least at the moment. Alabama hasn't been Alabama for a couple years now, LSU fell off a cliff after 2019, A&M is.....A&M, and the Mississippi schools overall haven't been as attention-demanding as in years past. Arguably there's no difference right now between the East and West, and since Georgia is a more complete team than Bama at the moment, you could argue the East is the better division.
It seems often two rivals don't reach full potential at the same time. But it is possible and sometimes it happens, like several of the LSU/Bama teams that were loaded. It's possible for Florida be all the way back even with UGA holding its current serve. I'm on record as wondering if Tennessee can ever be the old Tennessee again, but maybe they can, and boy, the East would be something to watch if UGA, UT, and UF were all elite at the same time. If nothing else, Bama wouldn't win so many SEC titles.
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That's what I want to see.....a Florida team as strong as, say, 2008/2009, playing the Cocktail Party against 2021/2022 UGA. And then they both have to play late 90's Tennessee.
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UGA "rose" to being pretty good under Mark Richt of course, a lot of 10 win seasons, which isn't getting "it" done. Smart had a "down" first year of course at 8-5, and the COVID year was 8-2, otherwise, they've been in the hunt somewhere, being at CFP 5 twice and 9 once (COVID). It's certainly their best run ever.
There is always some "luck" involved, sometimes it goes against you, as in 2017. The 1980 team had a lot of near miss games, they had the luck on their side that year.
This year's edition remains a bit of a mystery to me, they have looked solid and then very mortal at times, often in the same game. I'd guess there is a slip somewhere.
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I've watched UGA half-assed this year, mainly switching in and out of their games while keeping an eye on others as well, so my opinion may not count for anything. What it looks like to me is UGA gets better as they turn Beck loose more and more. Earlier on they weren't willing to do that as much, as of late they've begun trusting him more and he's rewarding that trust. Offense seems to be rounding into something quite good. Defense is a step back from recent years but still very good.
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Guesses on A&Ms next coach? Cuz I got nothing.
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Iowa Offensive Coordinator.
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Kind of dreary here this AM. A bit of rain and chilly, I think they had snow in the mountains.
I'm off to Florida on Monday for baseball, again.
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Bright sun and 60s today. But we may be getting a polar vortex hit here soon. Or not.
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https://twitter.com/ClowESPN
Saban Retiring. Wow.
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https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status/1752390471635148972
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https://twitter.com/ByPatForde/status/1752373512088465758
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https://www.cfb51.com/area-51/message-to-ncaa-from-tennessee-over-new-investigation/
The NCAA can kiss our Big Orange Asses.
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Whatever takes the focus off of Florida...
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I root for chaos, so another UT investigation and thrashing would be entertaining.
But I also root for the inevitable destruction of the NCAA, and for bitch-slaps, the latter of which Chancellor Plowman just delivered in force to the weasels in writing.
I think I'm good either way this goes.
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If somehow the NCAA goes away, something similar would replace it.
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If somehow the NCAA goes away, something similar would replace it.
Yup. There's always going to be a governing body that must create rules, and there's always going to be schools that like the rules, schools that don't like the rules, schools that obey the rules, and schools that break the rules.
Even within the two big conferences remaining, there are schools that will thrive under certain sets of rules, and schools that will suffer. It's silly to assume that Vanderbilt and Northwestern are going to share all the same values and concerns that Alabama and Ohio State have, and therefore it's silly to believe they're all going to move lock-step in making a unified ruleset that pleases everyone.
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Yup. There's always going to be a governing body that must create rules, and there's always going to be schools that like the rules, schools that don't like the rules, schools that obey the rules, and schools that break the rules.
Even within the two big conferences remaining, there are schools that will thrive under certain sets of rules, and schools that will suffer. It's silly to assume that Vanderbilt and Northwestern are going to share all the same values and concerns that Alabama and Ohio State have, and therefore it's silly to believe they're all going to move lock-step in making a unified ruleset that pleases everyone.
absolutely. and from there it gets more layered than that. within the schools that follow the rules let's say at an institutional level there will always be some people (who are in a position to have some sort of impact) that don't & then all of it has the potential to ebb over time at least at certain places. i'm not a ncaa hater but at the same time have no regard for the way it's been run as its become increasingly spineless & cowardly in recent years.