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The Power Five => SEC => Topic started by: Cincydawg on January 24, 2023, 09:26:44 AM
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UGA had to drop Oklahoma from their slate, replaced with a much inferior opponent, so their four OOC games are pretty much given Ws. They return a pretty sound core on D and O. The "contested" games appear to be:
@ Tennessee
Florida
@ Auburn?
Ole Miss
South Carolina
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How will they do without their 47 year old quarterback?
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LSU opens with FSU again and then has 3 laughable ooc games that should prohibit them from eligibility should they make the playoffs or NY6.
The SEC west slate is hard to gauge. Don't know how good any of those teams are likely to be. I barely know how good I expect LSU to be. Alabama will probably be really good.
We pull Mizzou from the East, and usual foe Florida. I have never seen Florida so late on the schedule. Nov. 11, 3rd to last game.
Strictly internally speaking, the team should improve within itself by about a +2 W/L metric, so after going 9-3 regular season, it's going to "feel" like a disappointment if the team doesn't reach at least 10 wins. Not stubbing our toe against the Seminoles again will be key. I have no idea how good those guys are likely to be.
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I've seen FSU in several "too early" top tens, FWIW. But they have a tendency to over achieve one year and drop out the next, much like UNC.
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How will they do without their 47 year old quarterback?
Heh, it's entertaining to note how many "Dawg fans" wanted Stetson benched last year and early this year for the backups. The apparent heir is a more typical tall Stafford kind of dude. They have another backup who is more mobile, which in my view adds a big threat dimension if he also is reasonably accurate.
Bennett won the starting job in part because he was so mobile, and had a strong more accurate arm than many suspected.
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Alabama moving on from their DC, I hear.
What about BOB? To hear Bama fans tell it, he's the bigger problem.
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Heh, it's entertaining to note how many "Dawg fans" wanted Stetson benched last year and early this year for the backups. The apparent heir is a more typical tall Stafford kind of dude. They have another backup who is more mobile, which in my view adds a big threat dimension if he also is reasonably accurate.
Bennett won the starting job in part because he was so mobile, and had a strong more accurate arm than many suspected.
Yup, I remember articles and podcasts raising the question over and over about Bennett not remaining the starter. I was incredulous. Demented thinking.
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The word fan is short for something, I forget. Often the backup QB is the most popular player on any team struggling. Fortunately, a good coaching staff will make better decisions. Carson Beck was the 2 last season, but will face some serious competition I think. I dunno who ends up starting.
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The one that doesn't transfer.
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Alabama moving on from their DC, I hear.
What about BOB? To hear Bama fans tell it, he's the bigger problem.
to answer late, they're both gone. got oc from nd and dc from pruitt or something. i don't know, it's weird. at least he and saban are familiar, even at bama.
the talent, of course, is still there to have a really good to great team. but i got no clue about the coords or how they will work with this team.
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I keep wondering how long Saban can keep it up. He’s been at an elite level for what, 15 years now ? I know Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno had some amazing, long runs, but nothing like Saban. Heck, I think Paterno only won the MNC once ? Bowden twice ?
Even Bob Stoops had some so-so years mixed in with his time. What would happen if Bama only wins 8 games in a season?
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He's 71 or so, right? Presume he's in excellent health for his age, he has to be tiring a bit at times with the grind. I have suspected many old coaches end up being "CEOs" while "COOs" do the hard work and they "supervise" lightly. He doesn't seem that way to me given his reactions on the sideline at times.
I figure he has maybe 5 years left as HC, how the team fares in that period is likely to be 11+ win seasons because of recruiting. Speaking of which, his age is already an anti-recruiting factor. Would you go to Bama realizing he may not be there or UGA where Smart is 99.99% likely to remain a while?
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UGA has never beaten Alabama in the SEC CG in football. They haven't beaten Bama much at all of course.
Will A&M have a run? Is LSU "back"? Is Tennessee? Is Florida going to have a pulse?
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LSU has to have been there first in order to be "back."
I don't remember anything prior to 2020.
All is darkness.
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Winning the SEC W is a something.
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Which dark horse teams do you see with a good shot at ten wins (regular season)?
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Which dark horse teams do you see with a good shot at ten wins (regular season)?
College football spring practice 2023: Overhyped, underhyped teams ahead of upcoming season (247sports.com)
(https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/College-football-spring-practice-2023-Overhyped-underhyped-teams-ahead-of-upcoming-season-206287485/)Tenn and Wisconsin are listed as underhyped, but neither is really a dark horse. He has USC and Colorado as over hyped. My guess is Tennessee has another solid shot at ten wins regular season.
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Teams that could exceed expectations:
South Carolina - I base a lot on having a good experienced returning QB, and they do.
Florida - They don't really, but at some point their talent level should mean winning games against mediocrities.
Missouri - I have no idea but I heard them mentioned by someone.
A&M - After years of disappointment, maybe their talent will show up? What's the buy out?
Arkansas??? - They start to look decent in 2021 and then fade. Same with UK, who lost their "all world" QB to the draft.
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First and 10: Alabama has gotten soft in the middle. Until that changes, it's Georgia's world (saturdaydownsouth.com) (https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/first-and-10-is-alabama-too-soft-to-win-another-national-title/?fbclid=IwAR1rTblTlV9TyAe-9vLVT1anraFYdwovafwp5W0EOk88sAdsH-vaQclr0Wc)
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(https://i.imgur.com/9BfzrVp.png)
Yes, it's embarrasingly weak ...
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Odds to win the SEC in 2023: Tennessee fans may be disappointed (usatoday.com) (https://ugawire.usatoday.com/lists/sec-championship-game-odds-2023-tennessee-vols-fans-may-be-disappointed-georgia-football-alabama-crimson-tide-lsu-tigers-on-top/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR0jEDSZATQavnklP5YJmt5x8hX33wK5B8FLCg-f8aA53rmqRdW2PpXeC-E)
Fans shouldn't be disappointed with such odds. I'd take a flyer on the Vols if I were betting, and maybe South Carolina. My boring guess is we'll have Bama-UGA though. The QB situation at Bama is ??? so maybe LSU again, or maybe A&M finally perks up?
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SEC football win total projections revealed for 2023 season: Which teams are overrated or underrated? (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/longformarticle/sec-football-win-total-projections-revealed-for-2023-season-whic-209977824/#2166188)
LSU 9.5
Bama 10
Tenn 9
Auburn 6.5
USCe 6
A&M 8.5
Arky 7
UF 5.5
UK 6.5
OM 7.5
MSU 6.5
Missou 6.5
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Preseason Top 25: Overrated? Underrated? Our thoughts on SEC teams' rank (knoxnews.com) (https://www.knoxnews.com/story/sports/college/2023/05/10/college-football-preseason-top-25-usa-today-tennessee-vols-georgia-alabama-rankings/70199668007/?fbclid=IwAR0OpBJPlz-nCWyLEpG13VspcXS95AplrAxW3FI--C4ZgiT0IE8E-Fm05y0)
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The various on line CFB sites now are pushing out all sorts of click bait as usual. I click on something on occasion if it looks halfway interesting, they almost never are really. Best QB, best defense, whatever, we'll see soon enough, well, I guess it's soon enough.
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SEC football win total projections revealed for 2023 season: Which teams are overrated or underrated? (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/longformarticle/sec-football-win-total-projections-revealed-for-2023-season-whic-209977824/#2166188)
LSU 9.5
Bama 10
Tenn 9
Auburn 6.5
USCe 6
A&M 8.5
Arky 7
UF 5.5
UK 6.5
OM 7.5
MSU 6.5
Missou 6.5
Under = LSU, AU, USC, UF
Over = A&M, MSU, Mizz
Everyone else looks about right to me.
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Josh Pate's Tennessee Win/Loss Predictions (Late Kick Cut) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU0m8ToLGZY)
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A&M will have a very good year.
UGA will not 3-peat.
Florida could beat every team it's favored against and only go 4-8. I think we'll finish above .500 if we don't pass too much.
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Every year, it's the same thing looking thru Hawg colored glasses and 10-2 predictions. But with 5th year senior KJ Jefferson and Enos the QB whisperer, The Hawgs are set at QB barring injuries. Rocket has put on 10 lbs of muscle and they say he's even faster and with a experienced group of RBs behind him we're looking good there too. WR is a question mark, LOTS of new faces, lots of size and speed too, but no SEC experience.
Depth, on the OL, DL and LBs is what I keep hearing and apparently new S&C coach Ben Sowders has the entire team adding beef and speed. The defensive backfield... no where to go but up :96: and lots of new faces back there too.
Here ya go, 10-2! :86:
Western Carolina - W
Kent State - W
BYU - W
@ LSU - L
A&M (Arlington) - W
@Ole Miss - W
@ Alabama - L
Miss State - W
@ Florida - W
Auburn - W
Florida International - W
Mizzou - W
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Put A&M down at 8-4. That’s us. Once every ten years good for 10-11 wins. Book it.
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OK, we have:
Arky 10-2
A&M 8-4
Florida 4-8 if they pass too much
Tenn 9-3 (just added)
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Put A&M down at 8-4. That’s us. Once every ten years good for 10-11 wins. Book it.
If Jimbo lets Petrino loose and let him actually call the plays.... with that talent and that genius, EVERYBODY needs to pay attention. :sorry:
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TN goes 9-3.
Losses to Bama, UGA, and TAM.
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TN goes 9-3.
Losses to Bama, UGA, and TAM.
Lately I've been so apathetic towards A&M FB that I didn't even realize we were playing UT this year. Seems like we've played a bunch in our SEC days, at least 3-4 times that I can recall. Whereas we've only played UGa once.
Is the game home or away?
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At Tennessee.
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My hot take for this season: Kentucky finishes #2 in the SEC East behind Georgia.
They have a returning OC Liam Coen that spent a year with the Rams, but was behind a pretty high powered offense 2 seasons ago at Kentucky when they won 10 games. They have a transfer QB Devin Leary that is considered one of the top transfers in the country, that put up big numbers at NC State. Their defense is going to be one of the best defenses in the SEC. They have some weapons on the offensive side that were missing last year, and a good O-line. I'm not expecting them to win the SEC or even make the SEC championship game, but don't sleep on them. They might win a few surprising games.
-Jon
(Post on FB, FWIW ...)
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Lately I've been so apathetic towards A&M FB that I didn't even realize we were playing UT this year. Seems like we've played a bunch in our SEC days, at least 3-4 times that I can recall. Whereas we've only played UGa once.
Is the game home or away?
Pretty sure we've only played once as well, in 2016.
A double overtime thriller in College Station.
(https://i.imgur.com/pqIQOEq.png)
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My hot take for this season: Kentucky finishes #2 in the SEC East behind Georgia.
They have a returning OC Liam Coen that spent a year with the Rams, but was behind a pretty high powered offense 2 seasons ago at Kentucky when they won 10 games. They have a transfer QB Devin Leary that is considered one of the top transfers in the country, that put up big numbers at NC State. Their defense is going to be one of the best defenses in the SEC. They have some weapons on the offensive side that were missing last year, and a good O-line. I'm not expecting them to win the SEC or even make the SEC championship game, but don't sleep on them. They might win a few surprising games.
-Jon
(Post on FB, FWIW ...)
Where's Jon from? Lexington? LOL
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Pretty sure we've only played once as well, in 2016.
A double overtime thriller in College Station.
(https://i.imgur.com/pqIQOEq.png)
You forgot about 2020. This makes this years game the third one as conference opponents.
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The SEC W appears to be more interesting with three teams having a shot at winning it. Maybe one could add Ole Miss, get are ranked at least, but their shot would seem low to me. Arky? Very unexpected, same with MSU.
Of course if the Vols beat UGA and go 7-1, they are in in the east. It doesn't appear as if anyone else has much of a shot.
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You forgot about 2020. This makes this years game the third one as conference opponents.
Hell, I forgot the entire 2020 season. For multiple reasons.
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SEC expert picks 2023: Most overrated and underrated teams, projected order of finish, bold predictions - CBSSports.com (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/sec-expert-picks-2023-most-overrated-and-underrated-teams-projected-order-of-finish-bold-predictions/)
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Lately I've been so apathetic towards A&M FB that I didn't even realize we were playing UT this year. Seems like we've played a bunch in our SEC days, at least 3-4 times that I can recall. Whereas we've only played UGa once.
Is the game home or away?
UT beat the tiger-shit out of us last year. Maybe the Ags will fare better.
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LSU had a weird season.