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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: 847badgerfan on January 20, 2023, 10:33:34 AM
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Why the hell, why not?
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is this just at any point in season? final poll? can't be continuous, right?
depending on that answer, i think oregon is most surprising.
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is this just at any point in season? final poll? can't be continuous, right?
depending on that answer, i think oregon is most surprising.
It is at any point in the season and the reason that Ohio State's streak doesn't go back further is that the AP Poll was limited to just 10 teams from 1961-1967. Ohio State received votes in the first few polls of 1967 and finished the year 6-3 which likely would have put them in the top-20.
Number of teams in AP Poll:
- 20 from 1936-1960
- 10 from 1961-1967
- 20 from 1968-1988
- 25 from 1989-present
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is this just at any point in season? final poll? can't be continuous, right?
depending on that answer, i think oregon is most surprising.
Yes.
For that reason, ND is surprising to me. Always overrated.
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Picked up a 2" thick ribeye to grill later or tomorrow. Gonna season the hell out of it and sear it hard.
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That means some voters put LSU in the Top 25 in 2020 and 2021.
lolz
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Okie St surprises me
mullets rule
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Why the hell, why not?
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Big Ten stat of the day.
If you know, you know
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ESPN's way too early 2023 All-American teams...
Michigan has two guys on their lists, RG Zak Zinter and RB Blake Corum. Will Johnson should be on there imo. Think he's the 2nd best player on Michigan's team in '23 behind.....Donovan Edwards. Blake is a great player, glad he came back- but Donovan Edwards is better than him.
Will & Dononvan were a pair of 5*'s. Goes back to my theory on the STARZ....RB & CB are probably most accurately ranked positions because they are largely dependent on: athleticism - which is easy for anyone to see with their eye balls.
B1G has 3 other players on this list, Ohio State WR Marvin Harrison Jr (DUH), Penn State OT Olu Fashanu, and Illinois DT Jer'Zhan Newton.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/35468917/college-football-way-too-early-2023-all-america-team
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UCF has more wins than FSU, Miami, or UF in the last decade. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Are any of Florida's "Big Three" dead forever? I definitely think Florida will be back at some point, for sure. Flagship state school, biggest alumni base, best stadium/fan base of the bunch, and they are in the SEC $$$$. Miami might actually be legit dead and FSU will probably be able to comeback to life a bit if they get say....Deion Sanders....but other than that....yeah I think there day in the sun has come and gone as well....this is pretty....bad....
https://twitter.com/ReallyDanWeiner/status/1615100952989831169?s=20&t=ZGUE4LyCck_M9EzT7dVm1Q
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Since it's obviously "at any point in the season" then none of them are all that surprising. If anything, I might be surprised there aren't MORE teams with 12+ seasons where they were rated in the top 25 "at any point in the season."
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Picked up a 2" thick ribeye to grill later or tomorrow. Gonna season the hell out of it and sear it hard.
Nice. Just grabbed some tri tip for Sunday.
Tonight will be burgers w/ bacon and guac, and we're frying up our own french fries for it.
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UCF has more wins than FSU, Miami, or UF in the last decade. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Are any of Florida's "Big Three" dead forever? I definitely think Florida will be back at some point, for sure. Flagship state school, biggest alumni base, best stadium/fan base of the bunch, and they are in the SEC $$$$. Miami might actually be legit dead and FSU will probably be able to comeback to life a bit if they get say....Deion Sanders....but other than that....yeah I think there day in the sun has come and gone as well....this is pretty....bad....
https://twitter.com/ReallyDanWeiner/status/1615100952989831169?s=20&t=ZGUE4LyCck_M9EzT7dVm1Q
State of Mississippi surprises me. I'd have to really dig into their records to know for sure, but off the top of my head I'd expect Ole Miss to outpace Clanga in a random time period. Dan Mullen era really helps them out here, probably. The Pirate continued a good baseline, I guess. Just odd to see Ole Miss fall behind.
University of Houston also jumps out at me, though less surprising. Has as much to do with UH being on a good run for its competition level as it does the major programs' struggles. Still, for as little as I pay attention to Houston over the years it raises my eyebrows to see them so consistently good. And that's with a pretty bad 2019 and 2020 dragging them down.
The more I think about it, the more I can't wrap my head around the fact that Texas can't get itself out of its funk. There's just no good reason for the Longhorns not to be dominant.
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State of Mississippi surprises me. I'd have to really dig into their records to know for sure, but off the top of my head I'd expect Ole Miss to outpace Clanga in a random time period. Dan Mullen era really helps them out here, probably. The Pirate continued a good baseline, I guess. Just odd to see Ole Miss fall behind.
University of Houston also jumps out at me, though less surprising. Has as much to do with UH being on a good run for its competition level as it does the major programs' struggles. Still, for as little as I pay attention to Houston over the years it raises my eyebrows to see them so consistently good. And that's with a pretty bad 2019 and 2020 dragging them down.
The more I think about it, the more I can't wrap my head around the fact that Texas can't get itself out of its funk. There's just no good reason for the Longhorns not to be dominant.
Multiple bad coaching hires in a row.
Of course it's easy to call them bad hires after the fact. Both Herman and Strong seemed to do well at lower-level programs and were on the short list for several other schools at the same time. Sarkisian on the other hand was a reach and I don't think much of the hire, most other people I've spoken with didn't either. Unfortunately I expect we'll reset again in a couple of years. Maybe we'll actually land a good one then. Hope springs eternal.
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Shouldn't be stringing along the fine folks in Iowa like that
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Burger and fries.
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UCF has more wins than FSU, Miami, or UF in the last decade. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Are any of Florida's "Big Three" dead forever? I definitely think Florida will be back at some point, for sure. Flagship state school, biggest alumni base, best stadium/fan base of the bunch, and they are in the SEC $$$$. Miami might actually be legit dead and FSU will probably be able to comeback to life a bit if they get say....Deion Sanders....but other than that....yeah I think there day in the sun has come and gone as well....this is pretty....bad....
Well one team gets to play Memphis and FAU and Troy every week and the others don't. Another stupid thing to garner clicks and eyeballs.
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They included FCS teams for states that don't have FBS teams, but I don't think that the FCS teams were included in the states that do, or else I'd assume one of those states would have an FCS team with the most wins. Like James Madison over Virginia Tech, for example.
For Vermont they had to go all the way down to D3, because that's all they have.
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They included FCS teams for states that don't have FBS teams, but I don't think that the FCS teams were included in the states that do, or else I'd assume one of those states would have an FCS team with the most wins. Like James Madison over Virginia Tech, for example.
For Vermont they had to go all the way down to D3, because that's all they have.
Alaska had to claim Hawaii.
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https://twitter.com/WTFstats/status/1617640440739794944?s=20&t=_dDGV5z9Qxm1da-I20BZkQ
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Tennessee gave Josh Huepel a fat new contract. He's averaging $9 million a year now, up $4 million per year from what he was making.
Can see Jeem's point about not being happy with the pay cut or getting a new deal- especially after the last two rebound seasons and a great shot he'll have at 3 B1G 'chips in a row, when other coaches who have done a lot less are making a lot more.
Jeem better get at least $10 mil a year base on his new deal- but that new deal better come with a fat buyout so we ain't doing this NFL bullsh*t every gd off-season.
https://twitter.com/Volquest_On3/status/1617950654709829633?s=20&t=SqkTI0Zf71-8ghJrMd0mmA
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that's four 1st rd NFL WR's and a QB that's going to be a top 5 pick in the upcoming NFL draft. Crazy.
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https://twitter.com/WTFstats/status/1617640440739794944?s=20&t=_dDGV5z9Qxm1da-I20BZkQ
I assume Ohio State is the team outside the circle?
If they went back another year they'd only have to expand the circle a little bit to include Austin, TX.
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I assume Ohio State is the team outside the circle?
If they went back another year they'd only have to expand the circle a little bit to include Austin, TX.
yep. says right on the graphic, Ohio State. Crazy thing about that is OSU was even better in 2015 and they screwed the pooch vs Sparty or else they prolly go back to back imo. Feel like Urbs always had slip ups vs teams he should murder- but in the big money big games- he was about as good as it gets. Kinda the opposite of Ryan Day.
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I assume Ohio State is the team outside the circle?
If they went back another year they'd only have to expand the circle a little bit to include Austin, TX.
a little bit???
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yep. says right on the graphic, Ohio State. Crazy thing about that is OSU was even better in 2015 and they screwed the pooch vs Sparty or else they prolly go back to back imo. Feel like Urbs always had slip ups vs teams he should murder- but in the big money big games- he was about as good as it gets. Kinda the opposite of Ryan Day.
If URBZ went with the flow like Satan he could have collared at least one more. Gatorama (RIP) warned me he was stubborn or complacent. URBZ sat Haskins/Burrow behind JT who should have been platooned .Saban had no problem replacing Barnett with Hurts and Hurts with TUA all over 2 seasons. JT played most of 5 seasons in C-Bus
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This is the first time in a very long time that we have started a new year with no travel plans. We were supposed to go to Munich, and then take a long cruise - back-to-back from Civitavecchia to Lisbon, and then Lisbon to Fort Lauderdale. We cancelled, due to uncertainty about safety in Europe right now (Putin).
Would have been a nice trip.
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We leave Feb 11 on an 18 day cruise out of Abu Dhabi ending in Athens, Greece.
Some neat side stops.
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We leave Feb 11 on an 18 day cruise out of Abu Dhabi ending in Athens, Greece.
Some neat side stops.
What cruise line are you using?
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NCL. Large ship, works for us just fine. I spent a lot on excursions on this one.
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That would not be my cup of tea without a military escort.
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I’ll be there
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Will they let you bring one?
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I'll sneak a couple into my luggage. We actually have a tour of Oman scheduled. Oh, man.
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2,402 guest capacity, 1,037 crew. It's one of their smaller ships, built in 2006 and recently refurbished.
This is a pricey cruise for us, I used the last of my options to cover it.
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I like 1000 or less on a ship, and no water slides, etc.
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We use cruises to explore places we can't readily access on our own, and to discover a location we think we'd like to return. The European cruises work well for that, we get a day or two in a city and move on without unpacking. I have not done a Viking river cruise, we did one with a no name operator. It was OK.
We're looking at Asia next, maybe.
Anyway, the size of the ship is not a concern for me personally. We get a balcony suite which helps, but gets pricey.
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Balcony suite is a must.
We like this line, a lot.
Azamara Luxury Cruise Vacations 2022, 2023, 2024 (https://www.azamara.com/)
Four ships, 700 passengers, 450 crew. No kids, no casinos.
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There won't be many kids on this cruise. There haven't been many at all on our European cruises.
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That's good. Less chance to catch a cold or something.
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I have 3 cruises coming up.
Next Week - Key West & Bahamas
In March, taking my kids who live on the west half of the country on a mexican Riveria cruise
In April, taking the kids on the east half of the country on a Bahamas Cruise.
We enjoy cruising. Many times if it is a place we have been to before, we just stay on the ship and enjoy ourselves on a mostly empty Boat.
Went on a Western Carribbean cruise at the beginning of December. Was great, almost no children on board. +
Had a Northern European Cruise booked before Covid broke out, Haven't rescheduled that one. Original plays were to go a day early spend it in England and stay 2 days after and spend it in and around Paris. Maybe later this year or next.
Oh and yes, balcony is a must.
Haven't done a viking river cruise yet, but definitely something we are considering.
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I might be interested in an Alaskan cruise
maybe
done the Caribbean twice
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We did Alaska, it was a disappointment, not like the photos, ha. I think Alaska merits a land tour, not a cruise.
I don't care for the Carribean cruises. I can recommend any in the Med or Baltic.
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well, I'll take that advice
no more cruising for me
unless it's in a sporty car
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We're looking at some Asian tours, maybe out of Thailand. NCL provides airfare for two for $1,100, which is a real deal, but it's in the back of course.
I had thought about a cruise from NE to Montreal but we decided we could manage that "on our own" driving just fine. There is another out of England to Norway and Iceland that could be on the agenda.
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I'd like to cruise South Korea and Japan. Probably after I retire. Make a big trip out of it. Start in Vancouver, then fly to Korea. Do a cruise and fly to Hawaii from Japan. Hawaii to Phoenix, and then home.
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Notre Dame in the second tier?
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Notre Dame in the second tier?
It's harder to hate irrelevance.
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My guess is "hated" means a team you lilke to see lose even if they aren't competing with you for a ranking. I'd guess a lot of folks somewhat enjoy seeing ND lose to Marshall, etc., while not caring that much about OSU et al. unless they are ranked ahead of their team.
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Notre Dame in the second tier?
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I think they mostly got the top tier right,except switch the Horns to the 2nd tier and the Domers up to their well deserved top spot
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It's harder to hate irrelevance.
All well and good but their fans haven't got that memo yet
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I'd add this to my list of rankings ugh, really. It basically is an upside down list of "relevant programs" ... as noted. As for teams "nationally liked", that category at the bottom is absurd. Nationally ignored would be more apt.
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Kevin Warren sucks...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qpWd4aH9zw
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Kevin Warren Sucks.
Did I miss something with the replies to ND being 2nd tier?
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Did I miss something with the replies to ND being 2nd tier?
Posted above:
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Agree that ND should be in the top tier.
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On3 has ranked top positional units across the board.
Michigan came in at #2 at DL, #4 at LB, #4 at CB, and #2 at Safety.
The only other program to be ranked top 5 on defense at all the positional units was Georgia, who came in at #1 at DL, #2 at LB, #2 at CB, and #3 at safety.
https://www.on3.com/news/2023-defensive-line-edge-unit-rankings-the-sec-and-big-ten-boast-best-groups-of-front-line-talent/
https://www.on3.com/news/2023-linebacker-unit-rankings-do-the-clemson-tigers-have-the-best-duo-in-the-country/
https://www.on3.com/news/2023-cornerback-unit-rankings-does-alabama-or-georgia-have-the-best-cb-depth-chart-for-the-fall/
https://www.on3.com/news/2023-safety-unit-rankings-why-miami-michigan-tout-two-of-the-best-groups-in-the-country/
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This could probably also go in the thread about silly rankings ...
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This could probably also go in the thread about silly rankings ...
You mean the burger thread?
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Athlon Pre-Season B1G teams....
Lathan Ransom 1st team over Rod Moore is a head scratcher to me. Rod Moore is just flat out a far better safety. Think they should've put a Nickel defender slot for defense instead of THREE RBs on their offensive teams- and I'd roll with Mikey Sainistril all day there at 1st team nickel imo. Cal Haladay from Sparty on 1st team also kind made me go hmmm....he was torched all last year in pass coverage.
https://athlonsports.com/college-football/big-ten-football-2023-all-conference-team
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SEC Football 2023 All-Conference Team - AthlonSports.com | Expert Predictions, Picks, and Previews (https://athlonsports.com/college-football/sec-football-2023-all-conference-team)
I obviously can't get worked up about such rankings preseason (or post for that matter). It's probably better to have more folks listed than not. TCU probably had one or two last year in the B12.
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Athlon Pre-Season B1G teams....
Lathan Ransom 1st team over Rod Moore is a head scratcher to me. Rod Moore is just flat out a far better safety. Think they should've put a Nickel defender slot for defense instead of THREE RBs on their offensive teams- and I'd roll with Mikey Sainistril all day there at 1st team nickel imo. Cal Haladay from Sparty on 1st team also kind made me go hmmm....he was torched all last year in pass coverage.
https://athlonsports.com/college-football/big-ten-football-2023-all-conference-team
Ransom is pretty damn good
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Ransom is pretty damn good
I think he's pretty good. Didn't say he stunk. He's definitely a quality starting B1G safety. Rod Moore is just flat out better. Significantly imo.
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Ransom is pretty damn good
Someone claimed he was torched all last season, which if true, doesn't sound very good to me.
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Someone claimed he was torched all last season, which if true, doesn't sound very good to me.
don't know about the entire season, he's a pretty solid safety. he was definitely torched that entire Michigan game though.
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SEC Football 2023 All-Conference Team - AthlonSports.com | Expert Predictions, Picks, and Previews (https://athlonsports.com/college-football/sec-football-2023-all-conference-team)
I obviously can't get worked up about such rankings preseason (or post for that matter). It's probably better to have more folks listed than not. TCU probably had one or two last year in the B12.
agreed. fun to look at and argue, but meaningless pre-season bs. probably a better sign for your teams '23 prospects if you have a lot of 1st and 2nd team players than if you have none though.
just perused that list. Georgia got plenty. The safety Starks was only a true frosh and that dude is LEGIT.
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Athlon Pre-Season B1G teams....
Lathan Ransom 1st team over Rod Moore is a head scratcher to me. Rod Moore is just flat out a far better safety. Think they should've put a Nickel defender slot for defense instead of THREE RBs on their offensive teams- and I'd roll with Mikey Sainistril all day there at 1st team nickel imo. Cal Haladay from Sparty on 1st team also kind made me go hmmm....he was torched all last year in pass coverage.
torched all last year ...
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torched all last year ...
I said that about LB Halladay from Sparty. Because he kinda was. Not Ransom the safety from OSU. Lol.
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A bad misread on my part indeed.
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Oklahoma state legislature passes a constroversial NIL bill that essentially blocks NCAA investigation into NIL deals, allows school collectives to compensate current and POTENTIAL (recruits) athletes with NIL deals, and allows schools to legally offer incentives to donate to NIL funds like rewards/points/ticket preferences etc..
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/oklahoma-legislature-nil-bill-name-image-likeness-senate-bill-840-governor-kevin-stitt/
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Any thoughts here on MSU moving their home game against Penn State to Ford Field on Black Friday?
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Any thoughts here on MSU moving their home game against Penn State to Ford Field on Black Friday?
few people posted about it in the MSU off-season thread.
I'd love to hear from ELA and the Sparty faithful on it. I think it's kinda bs that they're losing a home night game atmosphere for a neutral site NFL stadium. Kinda lame imo.
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don't know about the entire season, he's a pretty solid safety. he was definitely torched that entire Michigan game though.
One play was on him. And even that was confusion between him and the field safety.
when you find the DB who has never been beaten, hit the snooze button because you are having a dream. Just ask Ringo who Harrison toyed with.
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One play was on him. And even that was confusion between him and the field safety.
when you find the DB who has never been beaten, hit the snooze button because you are having a dream. Just ask Ringo who Harrison toyed with.
What do the Beatles have to do with this?