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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: utee94 on January 01, 2023, 05:52:57 PM
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Can the toads shock the nation and win the CFP by beating the two undefeated conference champs from the two premier conferences that no measly B12 team could ever hope to compete with?
Tune in Monday to find out!
I mean, I won't be tuning in because I'm always busy on Monday nights. But y'all should. If you care about it.
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I might give it a gander if it's on TV and I'm bored...
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No. But that’s OK.
I need to look back, but this Georgia team might have the least eye-popping running game since I don’t know when.
I’m guessing it’s on the same level of the Florida State and Oklahoma teams that won around the turn of the century. But I need to pull up the stats to check.
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I wonder if TCU will give Georgia some "bulletin board material?" That seemed to work out positively for them last week.
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Huh? what bulletin board material did tOSU give Gawja?
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twas TCU on Michigan's board
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Huh? what bulletin board material did tOSU give Gawja?
twas TCU on Michigan's board
Yup, one of the TCU players talked about how Michigan hadn't seen any team as fast as the toads, and some Michigan fans got bent out of shape and declared it was foolish to give Michigan any MORE reason to kick the snot out of TCU.
It all seemed to work out just fine for the toads, so I was wondering if something similar might happen this week, with some TCU player daring to say that maybe TCU just might belong on the same field as Georgia.
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let's just say, the Frogs had the bigger chip on their shoulder
I blame Harbaugh
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let's just say, the Frogs had the bigger chip on their shoulder
I blame Harbaugh
So... Michigan didn't want to be there?
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they did, AND they got the matchup they wanted
they wanted a weak team they could overpower in the trenches
and then they tried to finesse them, for no good reason
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It's why we play the game. TCU has a better chance to beat Georgia on the 9th, than every single other team.
That said, I think Georgia is way better the TTUN, and will cover the spread vs. the frogs.
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because every single other team has no chance
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they did, AND they got the matchup they wanted
they wanted a weak team they could overpower in the trenches
and then they tried to finesse them, for no good reason
Well, actually, for good reason. Michigan just couldn’t bully TCU on the ground like many (myself included) thought they would. Michigan had 40 rushing attempts for 186 yards (4.7 YPC). Now, that is pretty good but it’s still well below what Michigan averaged for the season. Take into account 54 of those yards came on the first play of the game and from there Michigan had 39 attempts for 132 yards (3.4 YPC).
Now, if you mean situationally like the trick play around the goal line then, yeah, I agree. But that wasn’t exactly 4th and inches either. It was 4th and 2.
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both actually
I think if Michigan would have committed to the run game early and stayed with it, it would have been successful
and obviously the situational trick/gimmick plays
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both actually
I think if Michigan would have committed to the run game early and stayed with it, it would have been successful
and obviously the situational trick/gimmick plays
TCU did a good job of stymying the Longhorn running game and that was against the best running back in college football. Michigan has a better o-line than Texas but the RBs they had available for the game aren't anywhere close.
So, I'm not sure I agree with you.
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The problem was not the offense
they scored way more points needed to win
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Michigan had a BAD call take a TD off the board, Harbaugh tripped all over his dick, and JJ threw TWO bad late pick 6’s to the sidelines and ALMOST threw three….
And Michigan still only lost by 6 pts and had the ball on a final drive to try and win that game with a td, only for Harbaugh to criminally mismanage his TOs to leave more room on the clock when they got the ball back- and then only to not seem to have any kind of plan or 2 min quick strike series of plays. They were insanely mismanaged and confused on that final drive and tripped up all over their own d*icks….
TCU isn’t going to get so fortunate vs UGA. Stet ain’t throwing 2 pick 6’s. Georgia probably isn’t going to get a TD incorrectly and criminally taken off the board, and Kirby ain’t Harbaugh level retarded and disorganized- few coaches are. It legit amazes me that Harbaugh even wins as many games as he does.
Georgia is going to go in on TCU dry with no Vaseline. It will be a 30 point win.
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TCU did a good job of stymying the Longhorn running game and that was against the best running back in college football. Michigan has a better o-line than Texas but the RBs they had available for the game aren't anywhere close.
So, I'm not sure I agree with you.
Donovan Edwards is more talented than Corum or Bijan, he’ll run faster at the combine than either and he’ll be a higher draft pick than either.
NFL draft guys were saying on Twitter that Edwards would be the first back taken in this draft if he was eligible.
Michigan ran for 232 sack adjusted yards at 6.7 ypc. Edwards ran for over 120 with a cast on his broken right hand.
Michigan’s run game want the problem. Their play calling and pass pro and inability to get out of bad run plays and audible on 1st and 2nd down away from run blitzes or pick up blitzes on passing downs was the problem.
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The problem was not the offense
they scored way more points needed to win
This as well. Their defense fell apart in the 2nd half. It was beyond embarrassing.
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I hate the word "can" in these questions. Writers use it for clickbait in their headings.
When you use "can," the answer is always "yes."
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The real question is "will" they.
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The real question is "will" they.
no
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Just like vs UM
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Donovan Edwards is more talented than Corum or Bijan, he’ll run faster at the combine than either and he’ll be a higher draft pick than either.
NFL draft guys were saying on Twitter that Edwards would be the first back taken in this draft if he was eligible.
Michigan ran for 232 sack adjusted yards at 6.7 ypc. Edwards ran for over 120 with a cast on his broken right hand.
Michigan’s run game want the problem. Their play calling and pass pro and inability to get out of bad run plays and audible on 1st and 2nd down away from run blitzes or pick up blitzes on passing downs was the problem.
The run game WAs the problem. After his 54 yard run to start the game, Edwards and the line were extremely pedestrian and Michigan couldn't sustain drives like they had all season. They did make some big plays in the passing game, but that also led to the big turnovers as well. Still, they scored a bunch of points and left a bunch on the board. The biggest issue was the defense and the turnovers.
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I typically like UGA okay but I find myself rooting against them this post-season. I'd rather see some new blood win it than the Dawgs go back to back.
Biggest surprise of that game to me is how helpless OSU's O-line was against UGA's front once some adjustments were made. I was surprised Stroud couldn't find his hot reads better than that as well, but that's not exactly uncommon when your line is swiss cheese.
All that said, they still had a chance to win it with a walk-off FG. I feel bad for kickers in that situation. 50 yarders are no gimme, but very doable for a good college kicker. I don't know what happened there, but I'm sure he can do better than that, even if he had a "regular" miss.
UGA isn't the same offense if Washington can't be on the field at the same time as Bowers. I don't know his status for the NC game, but I've argued that the two TEs are the key to what makes Georgia unstoppable and you need either an elite performance from your D-line or for Bennett to have a bad day. He didn't have a great day against OSU but they still managed to rack up points. Duggan also had a bad day. I don't look for either of them to slump like that twice in a row.
The trenches are the most important thing here....that favors UGA near as I can tell. But I didn't think TCU could handle Michigan in the trenches either and that was obviously not the case, regardless of UM's baffling play-calling.
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I hate the word "can" in these questions. Writers use it for clickbait in their headings.
When you use "can," the answer is always "yes."
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The real question is "will" they.
Got you to click and respond.
(https://i.imgur.com/R6SSvbm.png)
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I typically like UGA okay but I find myself rooting against them this post-season. I'd rather see some new blood win it than the Dawgs go back to back.
Biggest surprise of that game to me is how helpless OSU's O-line was against UGA's front once some adjustments were made. I was surprised Stroud couldn't find his hot reads better than that as well, but that's not exactly uncommon when your line is swiss cheese.
All that said, they still had a chance to win it with a walk-off FG. I feel bad for kickers in that situation. 50 yarders are no gimme, but very doable for a good college kicker. I don't know what happened there, but I'm sure he can do better than that, even if he had a "regular" miss.
UGA isn't the same offense if Washington can't be on the field at the same time as Bowers. I don't know his status for the NC game, but I've argued that the two TEs are the key to what makes Georgia unstoppable and you need either an elite performance from your D-line or for Bennett to have a bad day. He didn't have a great day against OSU but they still managed to rack up points. Duggan also had a bad day. I don't look for either of them to slump like that twice in a row.
The trenches are the most important thing here....that favors UGA near as I can tell. But I didn't think TCU could handle Michigan in the trenches either and that was obviously not the case, regardless of UM's baffling play-calling.
When Harrison was knocked out of the game, tOSU's offense's wheels fell off. They were doing a pretty good job of moving the ball with Harrison, but not so much when he was no longer an option.
As for the 50 yd FG attempt, about the only thing I can fault the tOSU coaching staff for, was the play calling for the final 3 plays prior to the FG attempt. It is almost like they were just trying to run out the clock and settle for a 50 yd FG, instead of trying to pick up another 5-10 yds. 5 more yards would have made a huge difference in that attempt as he would not have had to dig in and try to drive the ball as it appeared he tried to do.
But it is what it is. Good luck to both teams, but I will be rooting for TCU.
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As for the 50 yd FG attempt, about the only thing I can fault the tOSU coaching staff for, was the play calling for the final 3 plays prior to the FG attempt. It is almost like they were just trying to run out the clock and settle for a 50 yd FG, instead of trying to pick up another 5-10 yds. 5 more yards would have made a huge difference in that attempt as he would not have had to dig in and try to drive the ball as it appeared he tried to do.
Ed Zachery
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When Harrison was knocked out of the game, tOSU's offense's wheels fell off. They were doing a pretty good job of moving the ball with Harrison, but not so much when he was no longer an option.
As for the 50 yd FG attempt, about the only thing I can fault the tOSU coaching staff for, was the play calling for the final 3 plays prior to the FG attempt. It is almost like they were just trying to run out the clock and settle for a 50 yd FG, instead of trying to pick up another 5-10 yds. 5 more yards would have made a huge difference in that attempt as he would not have had to dig in and try to drive the ball as it appeared he tried to do.
But it is what it is. Good luck to both teams, but I will be rooting for TCU.
I’m not sure why you think that. Not gaining any yardage doesn’t mean they weren’t trying to gain yardage. They called a run play that was stuffed and then two incomplete passes. What about those calls made you think they were content to settle for a 50 yard FG?
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speaking of Marv…
Marvin Harrison Jr is the best WR in college football since who? It’s been a long time since I’ve seen one that good. I think Jefferson and Chase were fantastic but they had the benefit of playing off one another and Marv might be better than both. He’s on that level for sure at min. I’m getting Larry Fitzgerald vibes from that dude. He would be a top 5 draft pick after his true sophomore year and be a day one NFL starter and play at a high level if he could come out now.
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Oh yeah and by the letter of the law that was targeting. Borderline dirty hit and Marv catches the td pass and Georgia probably loses that game and Marv continues to shred them if not for that one play.
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speaking of Marv…
Marvin Harrison Jr is the best WR in college football since who? It’s been a long time since I’ve seen one that good. I think Jefferson and Chase were fantastic but they had the benefit of playing off one another and Marv might be better than both. He’s on that level for sure at min. I’m getting Larry Fitzgerald vibes from that dude. He would be a top 5 draft pick after his true sophomore year and be a day one NFL starter and play at a high level if he could come out now.
Good pick on Fitzgerald,IMO he was the package because of his mind set - seemed real dialed in like Payton or Sanders.Not a primadonna like so many WRs. Calvin Johnson another one who comes to mind
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I haven't watched him much but he looked great in the time he played vs. UGA.
247 says he was a '21 recruit so I assume that means he has to come back to OSU next year. Maybe I'll get to watch him more then.
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I haven't watched him much but he looked great in the time he played vs. UGA.
247 says he was a '21 recruit so I assume that means he has to come back to OSU next year. Maybe I'll get to watch him more then.
yeah he just finished his true soph season. he’d be a high draft pick if he could come out right now. He’s got nothing to gain by coming back for a 3rd year but- has to bc of draft rules. He’s a top 5 pick rn. And injury could end his career or tank his stock. God forbid and knock on wood that don’t happen.
I think the NFL should’ve set up a minor league a long time ago. Not fair to make kids that can play pro right now stay in school 3 years and bc of those issues we’ve had this NIL crap run amuck and it’s ruining the sport.
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yeah he just finished his true soph season. he’d be a high draft pick if he could come out right now. He’s got nothing to gain by coming back for a 3rd year but- has to bc of draft rules. He’s a top 5 pick rn. And injury could end his career or tank his stock. God forbid and knock on wood that don’t happen.
I think the NFL should’ve set up a minor league a long time ago. Not fair to make kids that can play pro right now stay in school 3 years and bc of those issues we’ve had this NIL crap run amuck and it’s ruining the sport.
Why would the NFL establish its own minor league, when college football has been providing them this benefit for a century, completely free of charge?
I suppose if anyone thought an NFL minor league might actually make money, they'd probably do it. But the fact that the money-grubbing NFL hasn't already done it, tells me they've performed the calculations and know it would be a money loser.
So, they just continue to use college football as a free minor league.
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yeah he just finished his true soph season. he’d be a high draft pick if he could come out right now. He’s got nothing to gain by coming back for a 3rd year but- has to bc of draft rules. He’s a top 5 pick rn. And injury could end his career or tank his stock. God forbid and knock on wood that don’t happen.
I think the NFL should’ve set up a minor league a long time ago. Not fair to make kids that can play pro right now stay in school 3 years and bc of those issues we’ve had this NIL crap run amuck and it’s ruining the sport.
why do that when they get one free
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Previously I would've said it's a mistake to entertain options like sitting out until you're draft eligible due to what a year of rust would do to you. Then Chase opted out of the 2020 season and entered the '21 nfl like a boss, so what do I know.
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Staying in playing shape can be even easier without game prep and not wanting to overdo things the day before, day of, and day after a game.
If you don't have to avoid muscle soreness on Saturdays, you're freed up to work out hard on Fridays and Saturdays. If you're not studying the opponent's defenses, you're free to run or lift or sleep.
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Previously I would've said it's a mistake to entertain options like sitting out until you're draft eligible due to what a year of rust would do to you. Then Chase opted out of the 2020 season and entered the '21 nfl like a boss, so what do I know.
I think most positions can take a year off except for QB. That is one that is a lot tougher. QBs only get better by practicing and playing in the games. No amount of working out or staying in shape will prepare them for what their job requires.
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we can't limit a young man's ability to profit from his name, image, or likeness, but...........
we can limit his ability to take a job in the NFL and a decent paycheck?
WTF???
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we can't limit a young man's ability to profit from his name, image, or likeness, but...........
we can limit his ability to take a job in the NFL and a decent paycheck?
WTF???
Who's "we?"
There's no monolithic organization making these determinations.
State legislatures have determined that they have an interest in forcing NIL, because the previous NCAA rules were illegal.
Which has nothing at all to do with the NFL, which has its rules in place in order to preserve the free farm system that college football has provided for a century. Nobody is stopping the NFL from hiring high school kids, other than the NFL. It's THEIR rule. Not the NCAA.
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Who's "we?"
State legislatures
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State legislatures
So are you suggesting that one or more of the state legislatures should force the NFL to change the rule?
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yes,
why should the NFL be able to limit a young person's ability to take a good paying job?
seems similar to age discrimination to me
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yes,
why should the NFL be able to limit a young person's ability to take a good paying job?
seems similar to age discrimination to me
Your reasoning makes sense to me. Write your state legislators and let 'em know how you feel.
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I'll leave it to Marvin Harrison Jr and his agent and lawyer
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Marv Jr don't desperately need money, his dad made plenty $$$ in the NFL. Not quite what the guys make today, but he did really well. IF NFL guys were telling Marv Jr is a top 5 pick in 2024 draft for sure no questions asked, shoot if it were me, I'd probably sit. After what we just saw in that MNF game and with that bowl game with Jaylon Smith- I'd never knock a guy for sitting to protect his NFL draft stock. Worked wonders for JaMarr Chase.
I doubt Marvin Harrison Jr will do that- he's gonna play in 2023, but if he decided to sit- wouldn't blame him or hold it against him.
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Your point is well-taken, but ftr it doesn't appear that Damar Hamlin's situation related to routine risks of the game. I think we're going to find out the guy had something congenital going on and last night was his unfortunate night to discover it. Massive sudden heart failure doesn't happen to a guy that age, in that shape, because of playing football.
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unless you take a helmet to the heart
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He took a body blow like a shoulder - that happens on every play in every game .It's either a freak hit or a condition
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Its either congenital or drugs IMHO
I really dont suspect drugs however
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a buddy knows it was the COVID vaccine
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sounds legit
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anyone seemingly healthy and younger than 70 that suddenly dies.........
there's no other logical explanation
this wasn't happening before the vaccine
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anyone seemingly healthy and younger than 70 that suddenly dies.........
there's no other logical explanation
this wasn't happening before the vaccine
Yes it was, we just didn't have idiots jumping on them as soon as they happened pushing a specific narrative.
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anyone seemingly healthy and younger than 70 that suddenly dies.........
there's no other logical explanation
this wasn't happening before the vaccine
there are several other logical explanations
but I have an idea
why dont we see what the medical finding is
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I'll let youse guys talk to him
I didn't have much luck
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anyone seemingly healthy and younger than 70 that suddenly dies.........
there's no other logical explanation
this wasn't happening before the vaccine
This is literally retarded.
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I think this will be an interesting contest, UGA "should" win of course. TCU might need a couple breaks, or have some success early and shift UGA into a panic mode.
UGA needs to get more pressure on the QB. Duh.
Bennett needs to have a clean game.
TE Darnell Washington has reportedly been cleared to play in the National Championship
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I'm gonna hafta root for the toads
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Duggan needs to have a great day and TCU needs to not count on the run game as part of their plan. Throw the ball and then throw it some more. Running on the Dawgs is going to be asking for a punt. otoh, the Dawg pass D can clearly be had.
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that's what they said about Michigan's run "D"
TCU ran for over 150
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Michigan is not Georgia
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Michigan is not Georgia
No, they're certainly not. Michigan absolutely whipped Ohio State, while Georgia was lucky to beat the Buckeyes at all.
Yeah yeah yeah, transitive property, etc. :)
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I think it safe to note that UGA has been a lot more vulnerable to the pass than the run.
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No, they're certainly not. Michigan absolutely whipped Ohio State, while Georgia was lucky to beat the Buckeyes at all.
Yeah yeah yeah, transitive property, etc. :)
Which is irrelevant to my point, but if I ever need a strawman constructed, you're my guy.
If TCU runs a lot on UGA, I'll concede my prescribed game plan was wrong. If they don't have much success running the ball, that's my only point. Not to compare UM and UGA at large.
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Duggan is a pretty good runner if he has to be, no?
That can be a big help against a tough defense.
I thought Stroud was supposed to be a good runner too, but he's listed as 2.8 ypc against UGA.
Nevertheless, I know Duggan can throw it, and I'd lean more on that than the run game.
UGA can generate pressure, but our green, young line handled it well. Surely TCU's OL is a notch above ours this year.
Something went wrong for Ohio State in that regard. They should've been able to handle the pass rush better too, I'd have thought.
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Duggan ran it 15 times for 57 yards vs Michigan
but, 2 TDs and a long one of 14 yards
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Michigan is not Georgia
agreed. Michigan has better CB's, that's why Ohio St didn't throw for 500 on 'em. Remember the name Will Johnson. He's going to be a top 5 NFL draft pick. He's better as a true frosh than Kelee Ringo ever dreamed of being. Ringo is stiff as a plank and his technique/ball skills/CB IQ is ass.
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Statistical Breakdown: How Georgia, TCU stack up entering title game (usatoday.com) (https://ugawire.usatoday.com/lists/statistical-breakdown-how-georgia-football-and-tcu-horned-frogs-stack-up-cfp-national-championship/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR0pnAscyDT8flKEog_FVPBbEVjE9okYxAiXq7Yb0aVaXuvqHOtsQPzy4eg)
UGA averages more yards passing than TCU.
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agreed. Michigan has better CB's, that's why Ohio St didn't throw for 500 on 'em. Remember the name Will Johnson. He's going to be a top 5 NFL draft pick. He's better as a true frosh than Kelee Ringo ever dreamed of being. Ringo is stiff as a plank and his technique/ball skills/CB IQ is ass.
You're allowed to compliment a player without shitting on another. Try it sometime.
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Duggan is a pretty good runner if he has to be, no?
That can be a big help against a tough defense.
I thought Stroud was supposed to be a good runner too, but he's listed as 2.8 ypc against UGA.
Nevertheless, I know Duggan can throw it, and I'd lean more on that than the run game.
UGA can generate pressure, but our green, young line handled it well. Surely TCU's OL is a notch above ours this year.
Something went wrong for Ohio State in that regard. They should've been able to handle the pass rush better too, I'd have thought.
Interesting take on OSU v Georgia.
I am not sure why you would think Stroud is supposed to be a good runner when the knock on him has always been that he was unwilling to run.
and in that game he actually averaged about 9 yards a carry, minus the four sacks he took.
and three of those sacks were by a blitzing defensive back or linebacker. Georgia learned early on that they could not get pressure on Stroud with just rushing four because Ohio State’s offensive line did substantially better than forecasted at blocking for him, and when they did get pressure he made them pay for it. How else do you throw for 350 yards, four touchdowns, and no interceptions?
Bennett on the other hand averaged -2.6 Per Carrie and he was only sacked a few times.
For those who read every bit of analysis and every narrative, the big surprise in this game was how well Ohio State did keeping George’s defensive line at bay.
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agreed. Michigan has better CB's, that's why Ohio St didn't throw for 500 on 'em. Remember the name Will Johnson. He's going to be a top 5 NFL draft pick. He's better as a true frosh than Kelee Ringo ever dreamed of being. Ringo is stiff as a plank and his technique/ball skills/CB IQ is ass.
Ohio State threw for the same amount of yards against Michigan as they did versus Georgia.
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Actually the games were pretty identical to about 3/4. Ohio State
No, they're certainly not. Michigan absolutely whipped Ohio State, while Georgia was lucky to beat the Buckeyes at all.
Yeah yeah yeah, transitive property, etc. :)
Actually The games were pretty similar for about 3/4. Ohio State drove into Michigan’s red zone with about 7 1/2 minutes left, with the opportunity to tie the score.
they turned it over and after that they played an extremely high gamble defense to try to get the ball back and gave up two long touchdown runs. Up to that point they had held Michigan to 2.7 yards per carry.
also you’ll notice that Ohio State had very few self-inflicted penalties versus Georgia. They had something like 11 of them against Michigan. They simply played better versus Georgia.
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anyone seemingly healthy and younger than 70 that suddenly dies.........
there's no other logical explanation
this wasn't happening before the vaccine
WASHINGTON (AP) — Unfounded claims about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines proliferated in the hours and days after Buffalo Bills safety Damar Hamlin collapsed during Monday’s game, revealing how pervasive vaccine misinformation remains three years after the pandemic began.
Even before Hamlin was carried off the field in Cincinnati, posts amassing thousands of shares and millions of views began circulating online claiming without evidence that complications from COVID-19 vaccines caused his health emergency.
While cardiac specialists say it’s too soon to know what caused Hamlin’s heart to stop, they’ve offered a rare type of trauma called commotio cordis as among the possible culprits. Physicians interviewed by The Associated Press say there’s no indication Hamlin’s vaccine status played a role, and said there’s no evidence to support claims that a number of young athletes have died as a result of COVID vaccinations.
Peter McCullough, a Dallas cardiologist and outspoken vaccine critic, amplified the theories on a Fox News segment hosted by Tucker Carlson on Tuesday, speculating that “vaccine-induced myocarditis,” may have caused Hamlin’s episode. While the Bills have not said whether Hamlin was vaccinated, about 95% of NFL players have received a COVID-19 vaccine, according to the league.
In his Tuesday segment, Carlson claimed McCullough and another researcher found that “more than 1,500 total cardiac arrests” have occurred among European athletes “since the vax campaign began.”
But Carlson was citing a letter in which the authors’ evidence was a dubious blog that lists news reports of people all over the world, of all ages, dying or experiencing medical emergencies. The blog proves no relationship between the incidents and COVID-19 vaccines; it also includes in its count reported deaths from cancer and emergencies of unknown causes.
“It’s not real research, but he quotes it as if it’s real research,” said Dr. Matthew Martinez, director of sports cardiology at Atlantic Health System in Morristown Medical Center. “Anybody can write a letter to the editor and then quote an article that has no academic rigor.”
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You see the error of your ways? I'm confused.
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we dont know what caused this
to launch a campaign against covid vacs when no one really knows is really sad
whats also sad is this kind of crap happens all the time by the media to support either of both sides of the isle
I just wish we would learn to hold our fire until the true facts come out
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well, that's the catch
"true" facts
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we dont know what caused this
to launch a campaign against covid vacs when no one really knows is really sad
whats also sad is this kind of crap happens all the time by the media to support either of both sides of the isle
I just wish we would learn to hold our fire until the true facts come out
Did someone hack your account?
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Pretty sure we have a lengthy thread dedicated to the subject.
Let's talk some more about how THERE'S NO WAY TCU CAN BEAT GEORGIA.
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I'm cheering for TCU, because they're not UGA.
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Helllo.....I hear this is the place where the cool kids talk college football. :)
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HEY!!!!!!!!:)
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I'm cheering for TCU, because they're not UGA.
And I'm cheering for Georgia, because they're not TCU. :)
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Helllo.....I hear this is the place where the cool kids talk college football. :)
you heard correctly
welcome back!
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Helllo.....I hear this is the place where the cool kids talk college football. :)
Actually, utee94 has been arguing that he's a giant nerd, so he's excluded from the cool kids list for now.
But welcome back!
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Badger,
welp.....I found her and brought her in.....do I get a finder's fee?
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Actually, utee94 has been arguing that he's a giant nerd, so he's excluded from the cool kids list for now.
True enough. But even nerds sometimes figure out a way to hang around the cool kids.
I mean heck, I actually married one!
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Interesting take on OSU v Georgia.
I am not sure why you would think Stroud is supposed to be a good runner when the knock on him has always been that he was unwilling to run.
and in that game he actually averaged about 9 yards a carry, minus the four sacks he took.
and three of those sacks were by a blitzing defensive back or linebacker. Georgia learned early on that they could not get pressure on Stroud with just rushing four because Ohio State’s offensive line did substantially better than forecasted at blocking for him, and when they did get pressure he made them pay for it. How else do you throw for 350 yards, four touchdowns, and no interceptions?
Bennett on the other hand averaged -2.6 Per Carrie and he was only sacked a few times.
For those who read every bit of analysis and every narrative, the big surprise in this game was how well Ohio State did keeping George’s defensive line at bay.
Oh, I fully admit I haven't watched Stroud enough to really know his game. I just said I thought he was supposed to be a good runner, not knowing whether that's really the case, or about his willingness to run.
And good point on the blitzes. I include those in the term "pass rush" so I should've clarified I'm not just talking about the front 7.
Ohio State usually has a very good O-line, and to the point that's applicable, I expect them to pick up the blitzes and stunts that are feasible, and for Stroud to find a hot read when the line is overloaded. However, that wasn't happening as the game wore on, and it surprised me.
Thing is, on camera I usually can't see enough downfield to know what's happening. Sometimes it can be a flaw in the play design a defense exploits, or it could be the QB not making the read fast enough, or other things. What little I've seen from Ohio State lately, I thought it was a matter of time before they starting making UGA pay for teeing off like that.
It just didn't happen consistently enough. Too many negative plays down the stretch, seemed like. Nevertheless, they almost pulled it off.
I still feel bad for that kicker. Those guys have a lonely, heavy job.
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College football's national title game, featuring No. 1 Georgia and No. 3 TCU, is set to kick off on Monday night.
Georgia is the heavy favorite. Most of the sports world will be picking the Bulldogs to win this one.
But Paige Spiranac is going in a different direction.
The former professional golfer turned sports media personality is picking the Horned Frogs to upset the Bulldogs in the College Football Playoff national title game.
https://twitter.com/PaigeSpiranac/status/1610736830764154880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1610736830764154880%7Ctwgr%5E33d2ed66c6550e36dc19479b881fb67a64c7f208%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthespun.com%2Fcollege-football%2Flook-paige-spiranacs-national-title-game-prediction-going-viral
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Helllo.....I hear this is the place where the cool kids talk college football. :)
you are mistaken we're just cold - not cool but welcome back anyway.Since you left,the country really went to hell so pop in occasionally and see if we can get things turned around :cheer:
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What little I've seen from Ohio State lately, I thought it was a matter of time before they starting making UGA pay for teeing off like that.
It just didn't happen consistently enough. Too many negative plays down the stretch, seemed like. Nevertheless, they almost pulled it off.
I still feel bad for that kicker. Those guys have a lonely, heavy job.
Problem was all the Buckeye original skill position players were out by the 4th Qtr.Williams,Stover and Marv,but both RBs/WRs and the TE. Tall order but Stroud balled - what a game
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Oh, I fully admit I haven't watched Stroud enough to really know his game. I just said I thought he was supposed to be a good runner, not knowing whether that's really the case, or about his willingness to run.
And good point on the blitzes. I include those in the term "pass rush" so I should've clarified I'm not just talking about the front 7.
Ohio State usually has a very good O-line, and to the point that's applicable, I expect them to pick up the blitzes and stunts that are feasible, and for Stroud to find a hot read when the line is overloaded. However, that wasn't happening as the game wore on, and it surprised me.
Thing is, on camera I usually can't see enough downfield to know what's happening. Sometimes it can be a flaw in the play design a defense exploits, or it could be the QB not making the read fast enough, or other things. What little I've seen from Ohio State lately, I thought it was a matter of time before they starting making UGA pay for teeing off like that.
It just didn't happen consistently enough. Too many negative plays down the stretch, seemed like. Nevertheless, they almost pulled it off.
I still feel bad for that kicker. Those guys have a lonely, heavy job.
Your observations are actually quite accurate. After Harrison left the game Georgia actually changed their defensive scheme because prior to that they were trying to cover him man and bracket for safety over the top. Harrison/Stroud beat that quite a few times. But is created space for the other two WRs.
In Q4- The Dawgs did a great job of getting pressure before Stroud could get separation from one of those other WRs.
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College football's national title game, featuring No. 1 Georgia and No. 3 TCU, is set to kick off on Monday night.
Georgia is the heavy favorite. Most of the sports world will be picking the Bulldogs to win this one.
But Paige Spiranac is going in a different direction.
The former professional golfer turned sports media personality is picking the Horned Frogs to upset the Bulldogs in the College Football Playoff national title game.
https://twitter.com/PaigeSpiranac/status/1610736830764154880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1610736830764154880%7Ctwgr%5E33d2ed66c6550e36dc19479b881fb67a64c7f208%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthespun.com%2Fcollege-football%2Flook-paige-spiranacs-national-title-game-prediction-going-viral
Wait, there's audio, too?
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She is wrong about the Yankees
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you are mistaken we're just cold - not cool but welcome back anyway.Since you left,the country really went to hell so pop in occasionally and see if we can get things turned around :cheer:
Ha!! So happy to see this is still the real OG board! Missing a few, but nice to see you're all still around!
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unfortunately, Mr. Nubbz hasn't changed a bit ;)
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Michigan screwed the pooch. UGA won’t make the same mistake.
Dogs 42
Frogs 15
Wouldn’t hate it if TCU won, give hope to a lot of small programs.
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I'm actually interested in how this game unfolds, so I'm going to try to remember this game is on tonight when I get home from my son's boy scout meeting (I'm the troop committee chair and attend most of the meetings).
If I do catch any of it, it'll be the first and only CFP championship game I've watched. I've found that after the NYD bowls are over, I'm pretty much done with college football. Monday nights are also challenging for me, I always seem to have other commitments on Mondays.
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I'll be watching in a sports bar in Sioux Falls
not many there will care, cause their beloved Jackrabbits just won their first National title yesterday
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You up there on bidness or looking for cheap schooners and a Juicy Lucey side?
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They have the Jucy Lucy in Sewer City?
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Michigan screwed the pooch. UGA won’t make the same mistake.
Dogs 42
Frogs 15
Wouldn’t hate it if TCU won, give hope to a lot of small programs.
So youre giving the frogs and 27?
Can I get in on that
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Why not? Plenty of CFP and BCS Nat'l Championship games have been blowouts.
My own personal take is that TCU is a great team that got really lucky. They played a weak schedule in the Big 12, other programs such as Bama dropped the ball, Mich and Jim went Full Retards in the semi, and now they go H2H against the current best team.
But I'm perfectly fine if they win this thing.
The last time they won it all, 1938. Last year they went 5-7, this year they play for the Big One.
Last time A&M won it all, 1939. This year's record? 5-7. Hey, one can only hope !
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They have the Jucy Lucy in Sewer City?
Thought he was talkin' South Dakota
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So youre giving the frogs and 27?
Can I get in on that
he said why not - get a pay pal set up i might take some of that action my self
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he said why not - get a pay pal set up i might take some of that action my self
I was thinkin sig bet
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Michigan screwed the pooch. UGA won’t make the same mistake.
Dogs 42
Frogs 15
Wouldn’t hate it if TCU won, give hope to a lot of small programs.
this is exactly my thoughts.
JJ McCarthy is a 19 year old first time starter. It showed. He made two god awful throws which really cost his team the game imo. Stet Bennett is like freaking 30 and experienced as it gets for a college QB. He's not making those kind of mistakes in this game imo. Harbaugh made lot of lousy calls and decisions that quite frankly Kirby Smart ain't gonna make.
It's not gonna be close.
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I was thinkin sig bet
Money bets are more interesting.
You each send me your money, I'll hold it, and disperse once the score is settled.
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TCU's lone 5* is a 200 pound LB transfer from LSU.
If Georgia doesn't absolutely whoop them into eternity I'll be shocked.
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Money bets are more interesting.
You each send me your money, I'll hold it, and disperse once the score is settled.
not really interested in cash but thanks just the same
if somebody is silly enough to give me TCU and 27 points I will make a sig bet
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The last time they won it all, 1938. Last year they went 5-7, this year they play for the Big One.
Last time A&M won it all, 1939. This year's record? 5-7. Hey, one can only hope !
I love how college football fans come up with things like this!
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I will not be able to watch as I am a cord cutter and this game doesn't interest me enough to go somewhere to watch it.
I'm with @Gigem (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1706) , @Mdot21 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1595) ,etc al. I don't think this will be in doubt much beyond halftime.
I could be wrong of course but as soon as TCU's upset of Michigan went final I felt exactly like I did in 2014 when Ohio State played Bama in a semi-final. That is, I felt that the semi-final was for the NC with the actual Championship game reduced to a mere formality.
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I love how college football fans come up with things like this!
fantastic ain't it. sports fandom in general. as a spurs supporter (tottenham hotspur- soccer, not basketball spurs), i see these type "last time x happened, we won the title" all the time. the hope that kills? nah, it's he hope that brings life to the sport(s).
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I will not be able to watch as I am a cord cutter and this game doesn't interest me enough to go somewhere to watch it.
I'm with @Gigem (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1706) , @Mdot21 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1595) ,etc al. I don't think this will be in doubt much beyond halftime.
I could be wrong of course but as soon as TCU's upset of Michigan went final I felt exactly like I did in 2014 when Ohio State played Bama in a semi-final. That is, I felt that the semi-final was for the NC with the actual Championship game reduced to a mere formality.
I mean if you really look at that game, Michigan's offense- which isn't exactly known for being high powered- left LOT of points on the board there. Michigan legitimately could've had 60 points in that game if they didn't continually trip over themselves. TCU's defense is BAD bad imo.
Not to mention, JJ HANDED TCU 14 points with two really awful pick 6 throws. Late, behind, inaccurate, forcing into double coverage. Just really bad throws- don't know what he was looking at on either one. TCU's actual offense scored 37- it's actual offense didn't drop 50 on Michigan's defense. Don't think Stet is gonna make those mistakes. Georgia could limit TCU in the mid 30s pretty easily imo meanwhile TCU is not stopping Georgia from scoring 50+ if Stet doesn't turn it over more than once.
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They have the Jucy Lucy in Sewer City?
not in Sewer City
don't know about Sewer Falls. I'll ask around
I'll be somewhere stumblin distance from the Hotel downtown - lots of options
the lobby bar is decent
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not in Sewer City
don't know about Sewer Falls. I'll ask around
I'll be somewhere stumblin distance from the Hotel downtown - lots of options
the lobby bar is decent
I wasn't aware anyone made them outside of Minneapolis. Though I suppose a cheese-stuffed meat patty could be thought up and implemented in multiple locations.
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Very much looking forward to the game tonight. After all like most of you I absolutely love college football and this is the pinnacle.
I have no idea who’s going to win. Likely Georgia but you never know. I think TCU is a great story!
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I'm just hopin for a great game !
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SDF popped in last week and his boyz won,he just might want to make a cameo to cover the bases - if he knows what's good for the Horney Toads
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I’m not saying this was inevitable….but is anyone surprised?
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I don't know whether I'm more surprised that TCU beat Michigan, or that OSU probably should have beaten Georgia
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What I’m kind of taking from this is that like last year, Michigan isn’t Georgia.
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I’m not saying this was inevitable….but is anyone surprised?
I'm surprised that I'm probably still going to watch after halftime.
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What I’m kind of taking from this is that like last year, Michigan isn’t Georgia.
So your vote is for the later
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knew that Georgia would put TCU in a body bag. I'm not shocked that Georgia is having their way with TCU on offense. At all. TCU's defense is BAD bad. As in...it sucks. Michigan should've had like 60 points in that semi vs that woeful defense if it didn't trip all over it's own d**k. Michigan isn't exactly a high powered attack that just drops 60 points on the regular. That should tell you TCU's D is BAD.
Not shocked at all Georgia's offense has put up 45 so far. A LITTLE shocked that Georgia's defense is pitching a tough game though. Only 7 pts right now for TCU. I thought TCU COULD get into the 30's- but that it wouldn't matter because Georgia would just score at will on that TCU defense. Georgia has basically been scoring at will. It's defense is playing even better than I thought it would, but maybe that was to be expected after they got embarrassed a little bit vs Ohio State. It's a prideful unit. They might've said hell no, not again....we're going to bring our A game...which they certainly did not vs Ohio State.
Don't want to toot my own horn but....
meanwhile TCU is not stopping Georgia from scoring 50+ if Stet doesn't turn it over more than once.
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I don't know whether I'm more surprised that TCU beat Michigan, or that OSU probably should have beaten Georgia
More surprised TCU beat Michigan. Ohio St is one of the few teams in the country that can line up with Georgia and not be outclassed from a talent standpoint.
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Just got back from my son's boy scout meeting and actually remembered to turn on the TV.
Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and turn it off again.
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Holy cow
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knew that Georgia would put TCU in a body bag. I'm not shocked that Georgia is having their way with TCU on offense. At all. TCU's defense is BAD bad. As in...it sucks. Michigan should've had like 60 points in that semi vs that woeful defense if it didn't trip all over it's own d**k. Michigan isn't exactly a high powered attack that just drops 60 points on the regular. That should tell you TCU's D is BAD.
Not shocked at all Georgia's offense has put up 45 so far. A LITTLE shocked that Georgia's defense is pitching a tough game though. Only 7 pts right now for TCU. I thought TCU COULD get into the 30's- but that it wouldn't matter because Georgia would just score at will on that TCU defense. Georgia has basically been scoring at will. It's defense is playing even better than I thought it would, but maybe that was to be expected after they got embarrassed a little bit vs Ohio State. It's a prideful unit. They might've said hell no, not again....we're going to bring our A game...which they certainly did not vs Ohio State.
Don't want to toot my own horn but....
Jesus. Michigan shit the bed v TCU. Period.
And stop with the Desmond Howard narrative about why Georgia snuck by OSU. They ( Dawgs) were out played for 3.5 quarters, physically and scheme wise- and even without OSUs best player in Q4- they found a way to get Georgia on their knees praying for a missed field goal.
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52-7. 3rd quarter winding down.
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I think it's a pretty awesome story that Stetson Bennett became the leader and impact offensive player of a two in a row National Title program. He's like barely 5'11 and was a no-star former walk-on. And he's just a really good college player who seemingly always plays BIG in the biggest games.
Think he's pretty obviously going to go down in history as the greatest UGA QB ever. Which is crazy to say considering Matt Stafford was really good and the #1 overall pick and had a borderline HOF career. We talking strictly college players/careers....Bennett was a better UGA QB. Don't think that one is close.
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Jesus. Michigan shit the bed v TCU. Period.
100%. SHIT the bed in the worst way maybe I've ever seen a Michigan team do so. Michigan legit should've dropped 60 on TCU and won that game going away. Harbaugh's coaching decisions & game management plus a pair of JJ McCarthy's pick 6's were the death knell and key factors in the bed sh*tting.
And stop with the Desmond Howard narrative about why Georgia snuck by OSU. They ( Dawgs) were out played for 3.5 quarters, physically and scheme wise- and even without OSUs best player in Q4- they found a way to get Georgia on their knees praying for a missed field goal.
??? I don't think Georgia snuck by anyone. Ohio State certainly out-played them for most of that game. Georgia also certainly did not play up to their standard until late in that game. It was a classic. Those were probably the two most talented teams on paper in the country this year, and it was a one point game decided by a missed FG with seconds left. Great game. Probably a different game if JSN is 100% and playing. OSU probably wins.
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Stafford is like the 3rd or 4th best QB in UGA history. Being a #1 pick doesn’t mean you had a great college career. It just means you have a rocket arm and your vices haven’t caught up to you yet.
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Georgia's 2023 schedule....for all the CRAP that Michigan took about it's schedule...this might be the most laughable schedule that I think I've ever seen lol. They are going to be right back in the big dance in '23. Kirby might make it 3 in a row Nattys.
(https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/292/563/11563292.jpeg?width=600&fit=bounds)
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Straight up, Michigan and Jim went full retards. They got out coached, and despite what they said they overlooked TCU.
Watching the line of scrimmage in the first half I knew UGA had it won. Tcu got lucky on a busted coverage, other than that zilch. Once they got up by 2-3 TD the game plan changes, can play more aggressively on offense and defense.
You OU and UT fans, it’s nice to root for your conference but eventually you realize that nobody in the Big 12 really belongs in the final. No matter the record. Because even if you have a great team, you don’t have the level of competition week after week.
All that be g said I’m really excited for the expanded playoff because there are lots of B1G and SEC teams that deserve to be in there, he’ll maybe even a ACC or PAC team.
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Straight up, Michigan and Jim went full retards.
1000000%. Jeem goes full retard a lot. I think the guy might actually be mildly retarded. I am not even trying to be funny. Dude is OUT there and not right in the head.
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Georgia's 2023 schedule....for all the CRAP that Michigan took about it's schedule...this might be the most laughable schedule that I think I've ever seen lol. They are going to be right back in the big dance in '23. Kirby might make it 3 in a row Nattys.
(https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/292/563/11563292.jpeg?width=600&fit=bounds)
? It’s still a SEC schedule. Have you seen TCUs schedule ? Nothing but cup cakes, and they didn’t even win their conference. They didn’t deserve to be here, but sometimes you get lucky.
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if Jeem does leave, I would not mind calling Todd Monken and seeing if he wanted to be the head coach. Think that dude is one of the best OC's there is in CFB. Maybe even the best.
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ok uncle im going to bed
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Hopefully this game helps everyone forget the Florida-Nebraska NCG as the worst beat down for all the marbles.
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I want Georgia to get to 77 points with a final score of 77-7.
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I could be wrong of course but as soon as TCU's upset of Michigan went final I felt exactly like I did in 2014 when Ohio State played Bama in a semi-final. That is, I felt that the semi-final was for the NC with the actual Championship game reduced to a mere formality.
The CG was nothing but a formality. UGA/tOSU was for the NC.
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Michigan isn’t Georgia.
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I expected Georgia to win, probably even comfortably. But while I'm largely against the playoff, I figured the one good thing was that it would eliminate the fluky team in the semifinal round, even if they were deserving based on resume. So at least we wouldn't get blowouts
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so, the Big 12 didn't help it's image tonight
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The Big 12 team forgot to Twelve.
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https://twitter.com/joshjreynolds/status/1612626253386752001?s=20&t=PrC01SgZ6rXjym7jNN0afA
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https://twitter.com/NFLHateMemes/status/1612657370399707137?s=20&t=zTMWJqFTYqWsN5OGIknUTg
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https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1612660467368955904?s=20&t=zTMWJqFTYqWsN5OGIknUTg
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I expected Georgia to win, probably even comfortably. But while I'm largely against the playoff, I figured the one good thing was that it would eliminate the fluky team in the semifinal round, even if they were deserving based on resume. So at least we wouldn't get blowouts
Two reasons it didn't:
First, because the committee ranked the four so as to avoid a M/tOSU rematch in the semi-final. Everyone knew that TCU was the weakest team in the field but they chose to ignore that. If the committee had ranked the teams legitimately then what you just saw would have been the semi-final to "eliminate the fluky team".
Second, because for some inexplicable reason that is incredibly frustrating to Buckeye fans, Ryan Day has turned into John Cooper these past two seasons. Had Ohio State taken care of business in November then the Buckeyes would have exposed TCU in the semi-final.
Either way, TCU would have been eliminated in the semi-final.
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https://twitter.com/BFW/status/1612627893598801927?s=20&t=PrC01SgZ6rXjym7jNN0afA
https://twitter.com/damienwoody/status/1612626305412915200?s=20&t=PrC01SgZ6rXjym7jNN0afA
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Georgia outgained TCU by 400 total yards. Jesus.
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UGA had OU scheduled and had to drop them in 2023.
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UGA had OU scheduled and had to drop them in 2023.
Yeah I was just about to point that out. It sucks and it doesn't look good for the back-to-back champs to have such a sugary soft schedule, but it's not really their fault. They had a forced last-minute cancellation with the Sooners, and their annual non-con rival tends to suck. Otherwise their OOC is no worse than most.
Heck they played Oregon this year, and Clemson in 2021. In general I consider Georgia to be one of the teams that does it right.
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Though I doubt UGA fans care, what kind of sucks about this is that UGA is a really, really good team and hopefully will be remembered that way, but for some people out there like myself it will be hard to remember this without remembering what a weak obstacle they had to get there. Great teams deserve great challenges to prove themselves to the world.
As it is, Ohio State was their challenge, and I'll probably mainly remember that game for me thinking that OSU wins if Harrison and a couple others don't get hurt.
Probably not fair to UGA, because I do think they're a really, really good team, but there you have it.
This is enough to make me go the utee route and stop watching these things.
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They beat 6, 4, 15, 20 … and 2.
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Georgia outgained TCU by 400 total yards. Jesus.
I was looking at that earlier. The difference between Georgia and TCU would have been a great game:
- 58 points
- 23 first downs
- 401 yards
- 183 yards passing
- 218 yards rushing
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so, Michigan is kickin themselves for losing to TCU
what about OSU, they should be kickin themselves for not holding on vs UGA and then having a cakewalk for the title
the BIG booted a couple nice opportunities
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so, Michigan is kickin themselves for losing to TCU
what about OSU, they should be kickin themselves for not holding on vs UGA and then having a cakewalk for the title
the BIG booted a couple nice opportunities
I guess OSU and Michigan just didn't want to be there.
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The Big 12 must never want to be there.
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...which will probably take care of itself, as OU is the main culprit, and once they join the SEC they won't have to worry about any more CFP appearances.
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The Big 12 must never want to be there.
Texas certainly never wants to be there, since we've never managed to have a good enough team to get there.
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Texas certainly never wants to be there, since we've never managed to have a good enough team to get there.
I know all about the current state of the game and various teams, but the "lifetime fan" in me still finds it odd that that a handful of teams haven't made an appearance yet. Among them, Texas, USC, Florida, and even Miami.
(yeah, I know Miami has been irrelevant for 20 years, but as I say, the lifetime fan in me.)
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They beat 6, 4, 15, 20 … and 2.
I'm not disagreeing, just wanted to point out that in the CFP era, this has become common.
I remember thinking when Ohio State won the first one in 2014 that this list for Ohio State was at least close to the best ever (at the time).
Each CFP Champion has had wins over at least two of that year's final top-6:
- 14 tOSU had wins over three of the top five.
- 15 Bama had wins over wo of the top six.
- 16 Clemson had wins over two of the top six and three of the top eight.
- 17 Bama had wins over two of the top four.
- 18 Clemson had wins over two of the top five.
- 19 LSU had wins over three of the top six and five of the top eight.
- 20 Bama had wins over three of the top five and four of the top seven.
- 21 Georgia had wins over two of the top three.
- 22 Georgia had wins over three of the top six.
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I know all about the current state of the game and various teams, but the "lifetime fan" in me still finds it odd that that a handful of teams haven't made an appearance yet. Among them, Texas, USC, Florida, and even Miami.
(yeah, I know Miami has been irrelevant for 20 years, but as I say, the lifetime fan in me.)
Sucking sucks, as they say.
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so, Michigan is kickin themselves for losing to TCU
what about OSU, they should be kickin themselves for not holding on vs UGA and then having a cakewalk for the title
the BIG booted a couple nice opportunities
As an Ohio State fan the whole end of the season is VERY frustrating. When Michigan lost to TCU all I could think was "How did the Buckeyes lose to these clowns?".
As I stated upthread, as soon as the TCU upset of Michigan went final, I was 100% confident that the UGA/TCU game was for the Championship. So yes, the Marv Harrison injury and the missed FG loom large because my Buckeyes were ohsoclose.
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Every team can and will have off days. Maybe Ohio State had an off day against Michigan.
Maybe Michigan had an off day against TCU.
I suspect last night's game was a combination of both TCU having a bad game and UGA making them have a bad game. UGA looked responsible for a lot of it. TCU looked responsible for their fair share as well.
UGA had a couple bad games this year, just not in the playoffs. You hope your team will get those out of the way before their playoff matches, but there are no guarantees.
We had an off day against a bad A&M team and it cost us the Sugar Bowl. Like UGA, A&M was responsible for some of our "offness."
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TCU did not fall below #2 in the final AP poll.
- Georgia (63 1st-place votes)
- TCU
- Michigan
- Ohio State
- Alabama
- Tennessee
- Penn State
- Washington
- Tulane
- Utah
- Florida State
- USC
- Clemson
- Kansas State
- Oregon
- LSU
- Oregon State
- Notre Dame
- Troy
- Mississippi State
- UCLA
- Pittsburgh
- South Carolina
- Fresno State
- Texas
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TCU did not fall below #2 in the final AP poll.
that's bull
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that's bull
Pretty obvious they went with H2H:
TCU>M>tOSU.
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Pretty obvious they went with H2H:
TCU>M>tOSU.
And the fact that TCU played an extra game.
Overall I don't think it matters much. We don't really think about who was #2 in a given year. We talk about who finished in the Top 25, then who finished in the top 10, then who won the championship. Those are our traditional, annual benchmarks for "good, better, best" with respect to college football.
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16 out of 63 voted for someone other than TCU at #2. It's amusing and predictable that, of those 16 non-TCU votes, 4 of them went to... Alabama!
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Maybe Michigan had an off day against TCU.
Michigan 100% had an off day and still scored 45 points and put up like 600 yards despite tripping all over their own d**cks and some awful coaching decisions/calls by 'Tism Jeem and getting boned out of a TD by the zebras. Michigan isn't exactly a high-powered high-flying offense. That should tell you TCU's defense pretty much sucks. Everyone should've seen this coming. I mean, I called it....told ya UGA would score 50 at least and get no resistance.
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The herd mentality with them is gross. They should be embarrassed.
Plus there's evidence here of poll sharing - voters are using one guy's poll as a base and adjusting from there. Why do I say this? There's absolutely no way a team as high as 18th is ranked in that spot by so many voters. That column of ND is revealing.
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In the CFP, we saw what great talent with coaching that accentuates it looks like (UGA vs TCU). We also saw what great talent with coaching that hinders it looks like (UM's offense early vs TCU, OSU in the final minute vs UGA).
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I mean honestly, UM gave up all the points, and my takeaway from the game was that their offensive play-calling is what lost them the game.
And then Day, after saying he was going to be aggressive, being aggressive for 59 minutes, only to clam up and settle for a long FG.....what are you doing?!?
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The herd mentality with them is gross. They should be embarrassed.
Plus there's evidence here of poll sharing - voters are using one guy's poll as a base and adjusting from there. Why do I say this? There's absolutely no way a team as high as 18th is ranked in that spot by so many voters. That column of ND is revealing.
I think the polls in general are just dumb. Which is why I want to see the big boy conferences leave the NCAA start their own thing and go to a real playoff. We don't need 131 FBS teams. We can get by with 4 Super conferences with 16-20 teams and then do real playoffs with home field advantages and start the playoff a week after the CCG games, not a fkn MONTH. It's preposterous and ridiculous they have these kids take a month off to ramp it down and then oh hey guys- go ahead and start up and ramp it up again a month later!
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In the CFP, we saw what great talent with coaching that accentuates it looks like (UGA vs TCU). We also saw what great talent with coaching that hinders it looks like (UM's offense early vs TCU, OSU in the final minute vs UGA).
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I mean honestly, UM gave up all the points, and my takeaway from the game was that their offensive play-calling is what lost them the game.
And then Day, after saying he was going to be aggressive, being aggressive for 59 minutes, only to clam up and settle for a long FG.....what are you doing?!?
I agree with this 1000%. Monken has been masterful in the big games as the OC. He also has a very veteran QB he can trust though. That does make a big difference. Stet is money vs kids 10 years younger than him. Stet is like fkn 30 been through a lot of spring practices and fall camps and started lot of games at JUCO/FBS level.
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Kirby gives a hell of a pre-game speech man...
https://twitter.com/PardonMyTake/status/1612673731708551174?s=20&t=M25CziG7-iXy0KlgKFwj8g
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That's a little more fiery than my Junior High B Team coach was... but not by much, honestly...
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The herd mentality with them is gross. They should be embarrassed.
Echo Chamber
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And then Day, after saying he was going to be aggressive, being aggressive for 59 minutes, only to clam up and settle for a long FG.....what are you doing?!?
By that time in the game he had lost the starting RBs,TE,WRs.He either hail mary's it or take a chance @ FG,both long shots.Based on two H2h hits he didn't think he could get a call. But with the receivers he had left it was a coin flip
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By that time in the game he had lost the starting RBs,TE,WRs.He either hail mary's it or take a chance @ FG,both long shots.Based on two H2h hits he didn't think he could get a call. But with the receivers he had left it was a coin flip
I was going to make the same point. I'll add a few things:
Ohio State was down to a third-string, true freshman RB. You might think that doesn't matter in a two-minute drill or even ask why run then? My answer is that running is easier to learn than the other parts of being a RB like picking up a blitz. How much do you trust your true freshman RB to make the right read and pick off the extra blitzer if UGA brings the heat?
If Ohio State's offense had JSN, Marv Harrison, and Trayveon Henderson available then I'd agree with @OrangeAfroMan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=58) completely but with Dallen Hayden as the #1 RB and Egbuka as the #1 WR, I can't argue with the decision to try to pick up a few yards and kick a long FG.
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Well i think Hayden would do it he impressed me as solid any time he got a chance. Also leave Xavier in there he'd certainly pick up some oncoming
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Kirby gives a hell of a pre-game speech man...
https://twitter.com/PardonMyTake/status/1612673731708551174?s=20&t=M25CziG7-iXy0KlgKFwj8g
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I was going to make the same point. I'll add a few things:
Ohio State was down to a third-string, true freshman RB. You might think that doesn't matter in a two-minute drill or even ask why run then? My answer is that running is easier to learn than the other parts of being a RB like picking up a blitz. How much do you trust your true freshman RB to make the right read and pick off the extra blitzer if UGA brings the heat?
If Ohio State's offense had JSN, Marv Harrison, and Trayveon Henderson available then I'd agree with @OrangeAfroMan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=58) completely but with Dallen Hayden as the #1 RB and Egbuka as the #1 WR, I can't argue with the decision to try to pick up a few yards and kick a long FG.
I disagree with the premise that he was going for a field goal. He said afterwards he ran the running play because they were in man free and if you crack the line of scrimmage it’s a free ride to the end zone. On second down and third down he actually dropped back to pass but Georgia brought an all house blitz on both and CJ Stroud could not afford a mistake so he tried a relatively safe pass on second down that got broken up and was forced to throw it out of bounds on third down. Day was not playing for a field goal in any way, shape or form. Without Harrison and the Tight end Stover, and neither of the two good pass blocking RBs available- he didn’t get anyone open with all the blitzes coming. Day did try though.
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I'll believe you - all of that is fair, except the last part. If they're blitzing, someone's open. Hence the risk of blitzing.
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I mean, technically Purdue was the Big Ten runner up, right? And LSU blasted them. Weird they didn't also include that
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all this really tells me....is the B12 fuggin SUCKS and Mich/Jeem are pathetic for blowing a game vs TCU- a team they should've taken apart. Embarassing af....not sure they'll ever be able to live that loss down.
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I mean, technically Purdue was the Big Ten runner up, right? And LSU blasted them. Weird they didn't also include that
Purdue also lost it's entire coaching staff and had all the good players on it's team sit so....not saying they'd have beaten LSU with a coaching staff and their top players- but they wouldn't have been clowned so badly....
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Something is wrong with this. Ohio State scored 41 on UGA and KSU, TCU, Clemson scored more than seven between them.
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I mean, technically Purdue was the Big Ten runner up, right? And LSU blasted them. Weird they didn't also include that
Maybe the math actually works if you replace UGA/tOSU with LSU/PU.
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Meh.. hyperbole.
SEC was .500 in their bowl games.
Their best team had to hold on to their cheeks, hope for a missed FG, to sneak out a win against the 2nd best team in the BIG, in their home city, and their opponent was at 3/4 strength at best.
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I mean, technically Purdue was the Big Ten runner up, right? And LSU blasted them. Weird they didn't also include that
Doesn't count because the technical box score for the game was
LSU -- 63
Purdue's backups -- 7
Drew Brees' Sideline Presence Lifetime Achievement Award -- 6 billion
According to the way PFF grades this stuff, we lost that game really badly.
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On another board a poster said TCU/Ga was like watching Mike Tyson vs Abe Vigoda
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Purdue also lost it's entire coaching staff and had all the good players on it's team sit so....not saying they'd have beaten LSU with a coaching staff and their top players- but they wouldn't have been clowned so badly....
You guys don't want to hear these excuses when it's not a B1G team, so.....
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The NCG outcome makes me think TCU didn't think it'd beat Michigan. Like deep down, they didn't believe they would. So when they did, it was like winning the Super Bowl, and OOPS - they still had another game to play, and against an even better opponent.
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They couldn't get back "up" for it. Not to downplay how great UGA played, but they're not 58 points better than TCU if they played 1,000 times.
These 20 year olds aren't machines. They have their ups and downs. For TCU to have such a down in such a big spot tells me they were emotionally drained. David had slayed Goliath, but couldn't do anything after that against Goliath's big brother.
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You guys don't want to hear these excuses when it's not a B1G team, so.....
Fair enough.
I think at a school like Purdue that doesn't have the depth of helmet schools or near helmet schools (LSU), and usually only has 1 or 2 really good players on both sides of the ball with excellent schemes is going to suffer pretty badly when those 1-2 really good players on both sides of the ball sit out and when the mad genius x's and o's scheming it up and his staff are all gone off to another place.
I don't blame Brohm for leaving. He won the B1G West this year, but if Fickell and Rhule are legit coaches and turn Wisc/NEB around plus with USC and UCLA coming- if they keep the divisions intact as is and just throw USC/UCLA in the West, Brohm's not winning the West again any time soon. I think he knew that. ACC is a cupcake and Louisville is all-out committed to NIL and buying players. They just bought a 5* DL from Florida in the '24 class. Brohm will get some DUDES there and he'll win a lot in the ACC. At Purdue, USC/Wisc/NEB will be the favorites (if their coaches are the real deal hires that is- remains to be seen) in the West every year with UCLA and Iowa making runs at it as well every now and then.
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The NCG outcome makes me think TCU didn't think it'd beat Michigan. Like deep down, they didn't believe they would. So when they did, it was like winning the Super Bowl, and OOPS - they still had another game to play, and against an even better opponent.
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They couldn't get back "up" for it. Not to downplay how great UGA played, but they're not 58 points better than TCU if they played 1,000 times.
These 20 year olds aren't machines. They have their ups and downs. For TCU to have such a down in such a big spot tells me they were emotionally drained. David had slayed Goliath, but couldn't do anything after that against Goliath's big brother.
Honestly think TCU just blew their load vs Michigan and couldn't get it up again. Plus a combination of Jeem/Michigan just shitting the bed in EPIC fashion. It happens.
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The NCG outcome makes me think TCU didn't think it'd beat Michigan. Like deep down, they didn't believe they would. So when they did, it was like winning the Super Bowl, and OOPS - they still had another game to play, and against an even better opponent.
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They couldn't get back "up" for it. Not to downplay how great UGA played, but they're not 58 points better than TCU if they played 1,000 times.
These 20 year olds aren't machines. They have their ups and downs. For TCU to have such a down in such a big spot tells me they were emotionally drained. David had slayed Goliath, but couldn't do anything after that against Goliath's big brother.
I think you are right. No B12 team had ever won a CFP game. The soon-to-depart helmets Texas and Oklahoma hadn't made it and had lost all four attempts respectively. Then decidedly non-helmet TCU made it and WON!
Irespective of how bad Michigan has been for most of the last two decades, they are still "Michigan". They still play their home games in the biggest stadium in the land and are instantly recognizable to even casual CFB fans in a way that only the "Helmet" teams are. TCU beat them and in the process accomplished something that their local Helmet teams (TX, OU) haven't managed to accomplish in the CFP era, they won a CFP game.
That was simply it, the end of the road. TCU didn't have anything left in the tank for UGA.
And, like OAM, I want to clarify that I don't mean this to diminish UGA's accomplishment. The Dawgs played a heck of a game and I'm also not saying that TCU would or even could have beaten UGA on a good/great night but I agree with @OrangeAfroMan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=58) that IGA wasn't, on average, 58 points better than TCU.
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With all that said I think Kirby just ran a double reverse statue of liberty,lattered back pitch/catch and scored - with the 2nd string
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TCU
sometimes you eat the Bar
sometimes the Bar eats you
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Fair enough.
I think at a school like Purdue that doesn't have the depth of helmet schools or near helmet schools (LSU), and usually only has 1 or 2 really good players on both sides of the ball with excellent schemes is going to suffer pretty badly when those 1-2 really good players on both sides of the ball sit out and when the mad genius x's and o's scheming it up and his staff are all gone off to another place.
Overall I agree, but just for the record, Purdue has/had more depth than LSU, who was still somewhere between 15-20 schollys short this past season. They have the least amount of scholly players along with ASU, by far fewer than any other team in the country. They had a whopping 39 scholarship players available for last year's bowl game when we got our ass kicked against K-State. Now, there were some opt-outs and injuries and an academic problem or too that accounted for some of that, but Orgeron left the cupboard really bare. Kelly had a great first cycle, but we're still way shorthanded compared to everybody not named Arizona State.
Also worth noting LSU technically had more opt-outs and players who didn't play the bowl than Purdue did.
....all that said....
Purdue was absolutely hurt much worse by their opt-outs than LSU was. LSU lost almost their entire defensive line, which wound up not hurting them much, and some others who were meh. It might have mattered if Purdue had more of its offensive players. But Purdue losing their QB, best WR (maybe best 2 WRs....not sure), and I think the top back.....you can't even count that as the same offense that Michigan played a month earlier in the B1GCG.
The way that game went, I don't think Purdue would've won anyway because those offensive players weren't going to tackle LSU's players running up and down the field, but having their first-string offense 1) likely scores more points, and 2) possesses the ball more such that LSU has less possessions and opportunities to score. Like I say, I'm inclined to think LSU still wins, but maybe something like a 42-30 affair rather than the dud we got.
LSU's defense is not as good or as deep as Michigan's.....reasonably, Purdue could be expected to score more on the Tigers than they did on the Wolverines.
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Teams get blown out all the time in championship games. Heck, I'd wager that it happens at least 50% of the time. I'd say there are 2x as many blow-outs as they are really close, tight exciting games.
Super Bowl teams get blown out, WS teams get blown out (swept).
UGA was blowing TCU off the line from the get go, sacking TCU well into the 4th quarter with the 2nd/3rd teamers.
Again, UM/Jim went retards or just weren't prepared. Or worse, they got outcoached. I suspect all three.
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Teams get blown out all the time in championship games. Heck, I'd wager that it happens at least 50% of the time. I'd say there are 2x as many blow-outs as they are really close, tight exciting games.
Super Bowl teams get blown out, WS teams get blown out (swept).
UGA was blowing TCU off the line from the get go, sacking TCU well into the 4th quarter with the 2nd/3rd teamers.
Again, UM/Jim went retards or just weren't prepared. Or worse, they got outcoached. I suspect all three.
Jeem looking at the NFL jobs.
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Jeem looking at the NFL jobs.
Thought crossed my mind as well.
Honestly if this nfl crap is gonna be an every off-season thing, he needs to go.
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yup, obviously has an affect on his staff
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Caveat: I no longer watch Purdue.
I knew going into the bowl game that Purdue would be slaughtered. I knew this before Brohm left, before the opt-outs, before any of that. Because I looked at this:
https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/
LSU was 8th in the country in roster talent. Purdue was 53rd.
This mirrored the year that Purdue faced Auburn in the Music City Bowl. Purdue, top to bottom, didn't have ANYWHERE near the players Auburn did.
This is what happens when one program overachieves their talent level while another underachieves.
That Music City Bowl probably had better coaching on the Purdue side of the ball, but the Auburn team had a bunch of defenders who are collecting paychecks in the NFL now. That would have been true facing LSU even if Brohm and the opt-outs had still been around.
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So, looking at the CFP title game. Georgia, on an aggregate talent basis, was #2 in the country. TCU? 32nd.
TCU was a feel-goods story of overachieving. And when they faced a program that far outclassed them in talent, and in coaching (i.e. @Mdot21 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1595) and his Harbaugh hate is probably legitimate), they didn't stand a damn chance.
Because the difference in talent between TCU and Georgia is about the same as the difference in talent between Minnesota and a MAC team. On VERY rare occasions the underdog puts it all together and wins, but usually it's a beatdown of "paycheck game" proportions.
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but Michigan was #13
well, #13 is supposedly an unlucky number
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Listening to radio last night, hosts of sports talk show discussed a factoid I might've otherwise never come across:
The last SEVEN National Championship games have featured a QB born or raised in the state of Georgia - but it's actually the last EIGHT:
2022 UGA (W) Stetson Bennett - Southeastern Georgia
2021 UGA (W) Stetson Bennett - Southeastern Georgia
2020 OSU (L) Justin Fields - Kennesaw Georgia
2019 Clemson (L) Trevor Lawrence - Cartersville Georgia
2018 Clemson (W) Trevor Lawrence - Cartersville Georgia
2017 UGA (L) Jake Fromm - Warner Robins Georgia
2016 Clemson (W) Deshaun Watson - Gainesville Georgia
2015 Clemson (L) Deshaun Watson - Gainesville Georgia
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no wonder TCU had no chance
Iowa kid at QB
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Georgia-TCU national championship marks least viewed in BCS/College Football Playoff history
According to Stewart Mandel of The Athletic, 17.2 million people watched on Monday night, making the wrong kind of history. It’s officially the least viewed national championship game of the BCS/College Football Playoff era.
Previously the national championship between Alabama and Ohio State was the lowest rated. Despite being two big named programs, that one was a blowout as well and affected by the COVID-19 pandemic. However, the Crimson Tide and Buckeyes were able to put out better TV ratings than what transpired in Los Angeles.
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People didn't want to watch a beatdown? I guess we have evolved from Roman colosseum times....
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People didn't want to watch a beatdown? I guess we have evolved from Roman colosseum times....
I don't know, thousands of people gather in Clemson and Baton Rouge every year to watch helpless rent-a-wins be fed to tigers.
Also, re: the recent NC.....we did just send the Christians to be slaughtered in a pit of angry dogs, viewed by a stadium full of people. I think ancient Rome would be kinda proud.