Link to 2022 thread: 2022 Wisconsin Season Thread (cfb51.com) (https://www.cfb51.com/big-ten/2022-wisconsin-offseason-thread/)Well. They found a QB.
Schedule is manageable for the first-year head coach. If they can find a QB and a decent pass rush it could be a really nice season.
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Does Georgia Southern still run the triple option?They went to a spread when they hired USC's old coach. Threw for 4,250 yards.
That is not the gimme-game I want to see with one week to prepare.
he might miss some carriesBut catch some passes.
he might miss some carriesIf that’s the case, boo-hoo I guess
Jim Leonhard supposedly in the running for Bama's DCHe was two years ago
Jim Leonhard supposedly in the running for Bama's DCHe would deserve it
He would deserve itI think he's gonna sit this one out.
(https://i.imgur.com/UnEDZe8.png)I wrote this elsewhere, but a new guy at the top of most monstrous person I've ever met.
You met him in school?Yeah, just one conversation. Talked to him after he was injured in one of those offseasons when it was like he might actually be a receiver who mattered.
I never did meet the guy. Past my time in Madison.
Not really a replacement on staff if CLF were to leave for, say, Ohio State someday.Fire Mac and apologize to Jimmy.
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That's the plan.he could’ve possibly turned it around had he been given the chance- Harbs did. But I think that’s rare. Odds are he wouldn’t have imo. Firing him really worked out for them bc they landed Fickell imo.
I really think PC just simply lost the fire. His first few years were good/great.
2015 Holiday Bowl - beat USC
2016 Cotton Bowl - beat WMU
2017 Orange Bowl - beat Miami
2018 clunker. beat Miami in Pinstripe.
2019 Rose Bowl - lost to Oregon
2020 Covid
2021 clunker - beat ASU in Vegas
2022 clunker - fired 5 games in
Yeah, he wasn't gonna go to just any old place. He said he'd only move to a place with the right culture and history. I guess he found it.Kinda says a lot he turned ND down and said yes to Wisconsin. Fickell thinks Wisconsin is a great job. He also thinks ND isn’t that great a job. I agree with him on both counts.
He has had many offers/feelers in the past 3 years, and he took this one.
I'm glad the AD had the stones to make it happen, even though I'll greatly miss Jim Leonhard.
We hear you Wisconsin:Always and forever
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WR Markus Allen arrested. Not sure he was even part of the depth anymore.Is he the one who transferred to Minnesota, and then changed his mind?
He may have been carrying a gun while intoxicated.
This is one way to get down to 85 scholarships, I guess.
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Is he the one who transferred to Minnesota, and then changed his mind?There were rumors he’d done some bad stuff before and no one was sad to see him go.
There were rumors he’d done some bad stuff before and no one was sad to see him go.What were those rumors?
So in terms of taking advantage of a second chance, not great.
I'm shocked that Mifflin Sreeet party has arrests and drunken behavior. That might be the first DO NOT rule I'd impose on my scholarship athletes, anyone caught hanging out at Mifflin will be running around the lakes indefinitely until fall camp.That feels like it would be a bit of overreach. It's one day a year. It's not during practice time. You gotta not be a dummy, but that's all the time.
Based on what I saw, the UW defense might be the best defense that the UW offense sees this coming season.
Never went to one of those.Didn't you have kids before you enrolled at UW?
Thankfully no. Not with that bitch on wheels. ;)We all have our bullets to dodge.
[img width=172.79 height=493.994]https://i.imgur.com/UYwQJ55.png[/img]Is Wisconsin the first Big Ten school to do this? If not, I can definitely see OSU, PSU, and Neb doing this too.
I guess Ind and Purdue could play their playoff games in the Colts Stadium.(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2016-12/16/12/enhanced/buzzfeed-prod-fastlane01/anigif_enhanced-30727-1481910161-2.gif)
play on the frozen tundraI wonder how long the CFP will put up with that until they say no more frozen tundra. But I guess as long as it's only 1 round on campus in mid-december, they might be ok with it.
Is Wisconsin the first Big Ten school to do this? If not, I can definitely see OSU, PSU, and Neb doing this too.They will never have to worry about playing games in December. :57:
I think the Minnesota Gophers put in heated fields when the Vikings played at their stadium. Ironically they are the last team that needs heated fields now because they could just play their playoff games in the indoor Vikings stadium.
I guess Ind and Purdue could play their playoff games in the Colts Stadium. MSU and Mich could play in Ford Field. Although Michigan might decide to put in heated fields anyway.
MD could play in the Ravens stadium and Rut could play in the Meadowlands. NW could play in Soldier field for now and the new Bears indoor stadium if it gets built.
Illinois and Iowa would be a tough call. They might install heated fields, but maybe they will use the new Bears stadium too.
I wonder how long the CFP will put up with that until they say no more frozen tundra. But I guess as long as it's only 1 round on campus in mid-december, they might be ok with it.are you speaking to the idea that there might be more injuries?
are you speaking to the idea that there might be more injuries?That and crappy field conditions lead to games where teams can play like crap, which some fans consider not very entertaining or fair. In the end many fans want their team to win because they really are the best, and they want to beat the other team when they are their best.
That and crappy field conditions lead to games where teams can play like crap, which some fans consider not very entertaining or fair. In the end many fans want their team to win because they really are the best, and they want to beat the other team when they are their best.entertaining and fair are what 12 teams in a playoff is all about
Now with that said, the occasional snow game or frozen turf game can be entertaining as something different, but I would rather see that maybe once a decade in the playoffs.
It was not that long ago the Big Ten did not play any games on Saturday night in November.always thought that a "pussy" move by the B1G
On a random note, UW reporters keep calling the new offense an "Air Raid" offense. It's tangentially Air Raid based, but probably far enough from the source that it's not really a great descriptor.I'd wager that UW will still run more than it passes.
This will irk me until it stops, though it is probably being done for recruiting.
run/pass ratio about the same?Last season UW ran 501 times and threw 326 times.
apparently not a terrific job with the Huskers, unless he was there 20+ seasons agoHe was with Frost at UCF and at UNL.
I'd wager that UW will still run more than it passes.Because the offense isn’t a true air raid
UW was bad on 3rd downs because it was almost always 3rd and long.Interestingly, this is not really true. For all UW's issues the third down rate was slightly above average, 52nd overall, 48th against just FBS opposition.
Now it's gonna be 3rd and Longo.
Slightly above average is bad.This is not correct. Slightly above average is slightly above average. And if it was bad, it’s not because they were in third and long too much.
This is not correct. Slightly above average is slightly above average. And if it was bad, it’s not because they were in third and long too much.A is great.
Wisconsin‘s offense was bad at a great many things. But not really this one.
UW was bad on 3rd downs because it was almost always 3rd and long.Midpack is "bad" if your aim is to be "elite" or even "very good" overall. It's relative.
Now it's gonna be 3rd and Longo.
I agree that #50 in the nation is badIs fifth in the big ten "bad"?
Also #7 in the B1G is bad
perhaps good for Rutgers, but bad for programs with expectations
Midpack is "bad" if your aim is to be "elite" or even "very good" overall. It's relative.My relativity is: This team was overall bad at offense, and the third down area was "relatively" fine compared to what was around it.
College Football Stats - College FB Team Third Down Conversion Percentage | TeamRankings.com
U (https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/third-down-conversion-pct)SC is second, which is not a shock, Washington is first, which kind of us, UGA was third, which coupled with the defense is very good. Wisconsin at 40% is a bit more than 10% under the leaders (who were over 50%). GaTech was the worst P5 (!) at 33%.
A is great.I think this was how we got grade inflation.
B is OK.
C is failure.
The only reason 3rd down looks better is Braelon Allen's ability to carry 2 tacklers with him for another yard or two. That's it.Wisconsin was 63rd on converting third and shorts.
And Mertz now is the likely started at UF?Yep. One of two things will happen.
I think this was how we got grade inflation.It's the system I was told when I hit grad school. You get a C, and you're out. B's are looked at cross-eyed.
I'm not saying this was some monumental great outcome, only that in aggregate it was beside the point given the context. UW was a BAD passing team. UW was a slightly above average rushing team, which is flat bad, considering the talent and O-line pedigree. These are spots to focus on.
The fact Graham Mertz was slightly below average on third and long, that's actually pretty surprising. He didn't look nearly that good (The fact UW was ever so slightly better on 3rd and short than third and long, that is a failure well below a C)
Is fifth in the big ten "bad"?(https://i.imgur.com/cgMyTeR.png)
If you consider maryland and nebraska bad, then yes. An almost 4 points better jump from 4th to 3rdI consumed a lot of alcohol to avoid considering those game, Fearless.
and then consider that the B1G isn't known for being a great offensive conference
Also consider the loss to the Gophers and a 1 point win vs the Huskers converting 8/15.
It's the system I was told when I hit grad school. You get a C, and you're out. B's are looked at cross-eyed.That only matches this case if 60 percent of the school failed out on grades alone, which I'm guessing it did not.
It's the system I was told when I hit grad school. You get a C, and you're out. B's are looked at cross-eyed.We had an H P L F system, which was odd, because they didn't give H's, almost ever, and it didn't matter if you got one. If you got one L outside your "major", it was "OK", not great, but survivable. Any F meant you were gone. The first year some students asked what they could do to get an "H" and the professor said "nothing" ...
Steve Sarkisian and the Texas Longhorns are adding a prominent ex-Big Ten coach to their football coaching staff.I heard about this about a week ago. His house is up for sale, which is why the "rumor" started. Now it's the truth.
Paul Chryst, a former head football coach at the University of Wisconsin, is joining the Texas football program, according to multiple reports.
Chryst is expected to serve as an offensive analyst to Sarkisian and Co.
PC's tenure is a head scratcher seemed he had the "IT" factor like Scottie at UNLHe was boring and didn’t like the front facing part of the job. He got away with it for a while with good teams. Then not.
JT23 help a lot.So did Hornibrook when he was good, and Cephus and Fum and AJ Taylor and some good OLs and Coan.
Gotta love it.In the “mindless offseason reading category” I was reading some OHio State writers’ game by game predictions for the upcoming season.
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Gotta love it.I always find that stat incredibly silly. Because all it really tells me is that a team doesn’t play fullbacks or tight ends as much.
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Braelon Allen doesn't think it's silly.When the game gets near- we will make an offline friendly wager. I think either way- that game will be close.
And HB... UW will not beat OSU this season. They are a few years away from even thinking about being at that level.
Braelon Allen doesn't think it's silly.I mean, he's also talking about nine-man boxes, which you're basically only going to see out of a couple formations/personnel groupings. Seems like he's speaking in vibes more than actual numbers, and it's true, UW being RPO heavy and high-tempo will very likely be pretty damn fun.
it's not silly, but the only way to get the defense out of the box is to throw moreNot totally true, As long as you send enough WRs far enough out, you'll clear space in the box.
Braelon's attempts go down and hopefully his average goes up
total yards about the same
Camp starts today. Lots of things to observe, and kinks to iron out.I am excited to see what LF can do. Should be fun as hell to watch.
UW will camp in Platteville, WI for the first week. It's a D3 facility at UW-P.
Players will turn in their cell phones at the start. It was their idea.
And HB... UW will not beat OSU this season. They are a few years away from even thinking about being at that level.Much as I hope you are right, there are no guarantees. Even assuming you are right that UW will not be at Ohio State's level, the better team doesn't always win. Within the past few years Ohio State teams have not only lost to, but been blown out by vastly inferior Iowa and Purdue squads. It happens.
Much as I hope you are right, there are no guarantees. Even assuming you are right that UW will not be at Ohio State's level, the better team doesn't always win. Within the past few years Ohio State teams have not only lost to, but been blown out by vastly inferior Iowa and Purdue squads. It happens.Yeah- Penn State and Wisconsin back to back. Brutal.
The game concerns me because Wisconsin is a tough, physical opponent and it is at Camp Randall and it is at night and it is one week after another tough game.
Yeah- Penn State and Wisconsin back to back. Brutal.Wisconsin is my surprise team in the nation....think they are going to be A LOT better than anyone is predicting them to be.
Clay Cundiff retired, as I suspected.I feel like Eric on the homer board keeps hinting that there were some bad vibes there.
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I feel like Eric on the homer board keeps hinting that there were some bad vibes there.I don't go there anymore.
I don't go there anymore.It doesn’t, but I would expect most Badger players are mature enough to understand you exit with Grace and politeness publicly.
That guy's arrogance is insufferable.
That tweet/X doesn't seem like bad vibes.
We hear you Wisconsin:
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https://youtu.be/JUIRBGaHeWE?t=265
Update:
https://twitter.com/midwestern_ope/status/1692202740607299840
I don't go there anymore.My childhood Badger friend said to me during last season, that board is him and his sychophants.
That guy's arrogance is insufferable.
That tweet/X doesn't seem like bad vibes.
I'd tend to agree.I’ve never clicked on that and it has been a good choice.
They also have a politics board there. Don't dare show any signs of being conservative.
Getting back to the topic, honest question forTwo things:
Has Fickell fixed his OL?
Those that are pimping the weasels as their preseason darlings clearly didn't watch much of the end of last season. The line that the Badgers brought into their last two Axe games made the Bad News Bears look like seasoned professionals. Even if Braelon Allen was healthy, he didn't have anywhere to go. All of the skill positions don't mean much if the OL can't control the line of scrimmage.
I know this era of CFB is a different one, but OL rebuilds take two full seasons and it was clear that the one in Madison needed to be gutted and rebuilt.
Two things:Another upside is they won't have to try and block 8-9 guys on every play this year.
1. i’ve been around a lot of college football. The grading curve is usually hard on offensive lines and You literally just don’t know until the season kicks off
2. The only upside is that there is raw talent, and sometimes the right new coach can activate that.
Another upside is they won't have to try and block 8-9 guys on every play this year.I’ll be interested in that. The nature of those numbers are usually over stated. But the spacing elements will be different.
Looks like the starting center is out again, and it might be a long time and maybe the season. That is my biggest concern.
It's not going to be what most people are thinking.There’s a chance we see why some fan bases have tired of the new OC
Mike Leach is not in Madison. The new coach is a defensive minded one. He's gonna let the OC do his thing to a point. It's not gonna be an air raid. They will probably still run more than they pass. Why wouldn't they? The talent in the RB room is among the best.
It's not going to be what most people are thinking.Unfortunately for CFB Mike is no longer involved 😢
Mike Leach is not in Madison.
Know what's fun? Picking 4 RBs for the all-time Wisconsin team. Freakin' impossible.Brooks Bollinger at QB.
The 4 QBs I chose are: Bevell, Tolzien, Hornibrook, Stocco
Let me know if I made a grave error. I didn't include Wilson because he just played 1 year. Although I have Newton on AT Auburn....so should I replace Stocco with Wilson?
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As for the RBs, I've got Dayne, Taylor, Gordon, and Ameche.
Any opinions?
In place of who?Hornibrook.
I'm sure I've said this before but Bollinger is my most irrational favorite player for a team I don't root for. I loved finding out a crappy Wisconsin-Indiana game was on espn2, back in such days, so that I could watch himHe was before my time, but he felt like a guy that was at times challenging to root for. Not as a person, but just that his game was up and down.
Bollinger had 1 season of double-digit TD passes. Good runner, though.That feels right for me at QB. Stocco, Tolzien, Bevell, Wilson. Some people like the Bollinger grit factor and the fact that he got a Rose Bowl winner on track. But he sputtered later. Bevell did too, but his best season was really efficent for that time.
I think I'm going to replace Hornibrook with Wilson.
Dayne, Taylor, Ball, Gordon. I want to include Ameche, but Dayne and Taylor are automatic, Gordon averaged 7.8 ypc on 600+ carries(!!!!) and Ball had ALL the TDs.
Since King Barry showed up:I assume Brian Calhoun isn’t on there because he was only there one year. If he did count he’ll probably be between White and Clement.
1. Jonathan Taylor
2. Melvin Gordon
3. Ron Dayne
4. Montee Ball
5. Brent Moss
6. Anthony Davis
7. Braelon Allen
8. James White
9. Cory Clement
10. Terrell Fletcher
There's that much daylight between Moss and Fletcher?Could probably put Fletcher up a bit. It's a tough list to come up with after the first four.
What up, fellas? Less than 48 hours for a Wisconsin offseason comment.Howdy!
Pretty confident that the top 4 all-time Badger quarterbacks will have a lot of turnover in the next few years (also Randy Wright?).
And changing just as fast, the all-time Badger WRs. Loooking at the current all-time list, Lee Evans might be the only safe pick to remain for very long. There are seven guys on the current roster who look like they might have top-10 all-time chops (for the Badgers). That's crazy town. In a good way.
What up, fellas? Less than 48 hours for a Wisconsin offseason comment.Haaayy, what's up, sir!
Pretty confident that the top 4 all-time Badger quarterbacks will have a lot of turnover in the next few years (also Randy Wright?).
And changing just as fast, the all-time Badger WRs. Loooking at the current all-time list, Lee Evans might be the only safe pick to remain for very long. There are seven guys on the current roster who look like they might have top-10 all-time chops (for the Badgers). That's crazy town. In a good way.
I guess I'll put this here, since it happened to a student - and my studio apartment was 2 blocks from where this atrocious crime happened. Used to be a nice, quiet area, but I guess that has changed.This sent me down a spiral of trying to find a house or a bunch of my buddies lived in that neighborhood. A crap hole of a place, but a lot of good memories.
'Defunded' Wisconsin police to increase patrols after young woman brutalized in college football town attack | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/us/defunded-wisconsin-police-increase-patrols-after-young-woman-brutalized-college-football-town-attack)
They got the guy, at least. Throw the book at him now.Great news and thanks. Been concerned and looking but didn't see anything.
Madison cops arrest suspect in University of Wisconsin sex assault (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/madison-cops-arrest-suspect-in-university-of-wisconsin-sex-assault/ar-AA1gkUFr?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7c2cd0b26e58437e84bf97a1549a6691&ei=59)
I'm gonna say he's done for the season, and for his career, unless he can somehow get a medial. He's in his 6th year already.That sounds likely. Bad beat for the kid.
So now it looks like Wisconsin can make a bowl game. The new QB showed a lot of balls out there yesterday and that is promising.Oh, I think that's a bit ambitious.
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No chance
Win
Win
Win
Tossup
8 wins now seems like the floor. 9 is the ceiling.
Yeah, I don't think they can beat the Goophs on the road.
@ Indiana? That's gotta be a win - even if they played on the moon. The other two are at home and should be wins. 8 has to be their floor. They are better than NU and UNL. So, this was all a bunch of shit.
I'd be ecstatic if they could bring the AXE home to where it belongs, but I'm not counting on it. Not a chance.
8 wins should get them to Nashville or Jacksonville, and we'd probably go if it's Nashville. Now just hoping to get to 6 wins.
The rest of the season is how Locke performs. The kid just made his first start, on the road, in a homecoming weekend. He played well, I thought. I hope OSU doesn't destroy him because after Locke, UW doesn't have much. Locke did not play well at all at IU. Not the answer at QB in Madison.
Fickell is doing much better than Rich Rod did his first year at Michigan.yeah, it's way too early to make any judgement on Fickell. It's year 1 of a rebuild. I thought that Wisconsin would be better year 1 just because the West is so weak, but it's a complete rebuild with a new coach. It'll take some time. Can't make any real judgements until year 3 imo.
yeah, it's way too early to make any judgement on Fickell. It's year 1 of a rebuild. I thought that Wisconsin would be better year 1 just because the West is so weak, but it's a complete rebuild with a new coach. It'll take some time. Can't make any real judgements until year 3 imo.THIS - NEED at least 3 full seasons to get a guage on things.They definitely don't need a revolving door up in Madison even in the era of the portal recruits want/need something solid to latch onto
Not good.No. It’s not. Very unlike Wisconsin, very unlike a Fickel team.
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https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1727024948915712204?t=vkmIox8pw-xwtwaOdGo82A&s=19
Top two WRs from 2022 in the portal.Bell couldn't catch a cold this season, which is weird, because he used to catch everything.
Neither really found traction in the new offense. Was a little surprised about that. I think drops were a big issue, but need to check.
If you couldn't find a place to contribute on UW's offense or defense this year, and you don't just have a ton of potential, you might just not be it. (Or if you think you're owed a starting spot when you are not)This is where I'm at. All of these transfers out were predicable. Except maybe Wedig. I thought he could find a spot to play. He played more snaps on OL than any other non-starter. Played in all 12 games.
I still think we see more after Spring Ball and Fall camp.:o :bluegrab: