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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: ELA on November 21, 2022, 08:51:21 PM
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I hate not knowing if a blue check mark is real anymore, so don't shoot the messenger
https://twitter.com/sn_ncaaf/status/1594863427683483649?t=YIFtNUWER12BtSOdxEw1ew&s=19
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Lane is denying it.
https://twitter.com/Lane_Kiffin/status/1594870642595201024?s=20&t=em7-CG8UkXyG9V6ZV25ACQ
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why do some people find happiness in spreading foolish rumors about coaching positions?
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I never get how he always seems to fall forward - beyond his abilities or accomplishments.Just don't get it but ya gotta hand it to him for aiming high - Joey Freshwater
PS exactly fearless specialy since Gruden is available
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I never get how he always seems to fall forward - beyond his abilities or accomplishments.Just don't get it but ya gotta hand it to him for aiming high - Joey Freshwater
yeah if you think about it his career is pretty nuts. he went from head coach in the NFL of the Raiders to Tennessee, USC, Florida Atlantic, Ole Miss, and now allegedly Auburn. And he's only 47 years old.
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Had a cup of coffee with St Nick
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he's been welcome in Lincoln a few times
IF he brings his father as D-coordinator
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he's been welcome in Lincoln a few times
IF he brings his father as D-coordinator
In 2022?
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Lane is denying it.
https://twitter.com/Lane_Kiffin/status/1594870642595201024?s=20&t=em7-CG8UkXyG9V6ZV25ACQ
And he's 110% in on the denial. At this point if he takes the job, he is public enemy #1
https://twitter.com/Lane_Kiffin/status/1594881175683637254?t=SI45TxHX-ddebWPcAR-I1g&s=19
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"according to sources" .... This place is a "source", I can make up anything.
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Last year saw some major shifts. Which positions are open so far this year? Which might open up?
Auburn
Georgia Tech
Wisconsin
Nebraska
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And he's 110% in on the denial. At this point if he takes the job, he is public enemy #1
Vol fans say hello
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"according to sources" .... This place is a "source", I can make up anything.
Good Point we should start our own Football Forum Focus - we could all be contributors/correspondents behind a paywall of course.Gold Jerry Gold
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In 2022?
I'd guess Monte can still coach defense better than the past 3 or 4 hacks that have been coordinator in Lincoln
of course, that's NOT a high bar
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It was relatively common knowledge without much attempt to hide it that Kiffin would've jumped to Baton Rouge last year, had he been offered. I wouldn't say he was silently campaigning for the job, but there was definitely some winking and a noticeable lack of denial.
I don't think he's against leaving for the right job.
As much as I don't like the guy, I've changed my mind on him over the years as a coach. He's good at what he does.....now. Still don't think he was so great when he first started landing major gigs.
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Kiffin signs a new contract with Ole Miss. He's staying put.
Nebraska hires Matt Rhule.
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sounds like Wisconsin is zeroing in on Luke Fickell.
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sounds like he was high on the Husker's list
not sure if he was higher than Rhule
don't matter now
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sounds like he was high on the Husker's list
not sure if he was higher than Rhule
don't matter now
yup. what this affects is Cinci players hitting the portal or any recruits that B1G schools may want to flip. Cinci has 4 commits rated 4*'s....you can bet the B1G schools going to try to poach.
also will be interesting to see what happens with Leonhard the interm HC. Wisconsin's star RB Braeleon Allen was rumored to be hitting the portal if Wisconsin let Leonhard go. Welp, that just might happen now.
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Shaw out at Stanford.
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https://twitter.com/TomOatesWSJ/status/1596913336045932545?s=20&t=a-IpGt5WFMkFoJ1zgrUmqQ
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Wisconsin247 reporting Fickell hire is all but a done deal. What happens with Leonhard?
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that's up to Fickell
just like Mickey's fate at UNL is up to Rhule
does Fickell have an issue with Leonhard or his defensive philosophy?
Does Fickell have a guy he just likes and believes in more?
Obviously, keeping a true Badger like Leonhard on staff has many advantages, but......... it's gonna be Fickell's call
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Wisconsin247 reporting Fickell hire is all but a done deal. What happens with Leonhard?
Wow, just yesterday they were reporting Wisc was close to hiring Leonhard as their permanent head coach. What an emotional roller coaster for Jim Leonhard.
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Wow, just yesterday they were reporting Wisc was close to hiring Leonhard as their permanent head coach. What an emotional roller coaster for Jim Leonhard.
did the loss to the Gophers cause Wisconsin to move on from Jim and go with the outsider?
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did the loss to the Gophers cause Wisconsin to move on from Jim and go with the outsider?
coaching hires are a lot luck, and no such thing as a sure thing. just bets and safer bets. Makes sense to go with a guy who has been a head coach for awhile. Fickell is just the safer bet.
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did the loss to the Gophers cause Wisconsin to move on from Jim and go with the outsider?
I doubt the whole thing came together in less than 24 hours. Probably was in the works for awhile. It's just the loss to Minn might have given Wisc extra incentive to meet Fickel's demands.
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If Fickell kept Leonard, he'd be keeping around his replacement. Mejor no.
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If Fickell kept Leonard, he'd be keeping around his replacement. Mejor no.
Leonard should go to Iowa when Kirk Ferentz retires and make Wisc and Neb regret they ever passed on him.
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Leonard should go to Iowa when Kirk Ferentz retires and make Wisc and Neb regret they ever passed on him.
that's if Iowa will even look at him. Nebraska didn't even bother taking a look and Wisconsin had him right there and said thanks but no thanks.
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Nebraska was going to get a guy with proven head coaching experience at the P5 level
Mickey never had a chance. Neither did other assistants. Not even Phil Parker
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I think I a vacuum, it's a home run hire, but this was Michigan's "down" year. The OL will probably take a step back, but I think they'll be better at every other position next year. OSU has to go to Ann Arbor with a new offense. I don't see how they win, and when they don't, it's not the 90s anymore. John Cooper doesn't have that same leash. I think the OSU job is available 365 days from now
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https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/1596915736773103620?t=Xz3VFdZFMcwgeQ5z6wSCRA&s=19
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In some ways AU Fandom is like the NFL draft for Jets fans. It doesn't matter what pick is made or who is hired.
The NY Jets select ....Jesus!
[AWwwwwww....booooooo.. Yeeeeeeah..... !] It's pure pandemonium.
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I think I a vacuum, it's a home run hire, but this was Michigan's "down" year. The OL will probably take a step back, but I think they'll be better at every other position next year. OSU has to go to Ann Arbor with a new offense. I don't see how they win, and when they don't, it's not the 90s anymore. John Cooper doesn't have that same leash. I think the OSU job is available 365 days from now
lot will depend on who declares for NFL and returns and what happens in the portal for both teams, but as crazy as it sounds....you may actually be right. Michigan *should* be favored in 2023 with the game being in Ann Arbor and with them seemingly returning more from their 2022 teams. Day could wind up going 11-1 or 10-2- and if one of those losses is to Michigan he'll have had 3 losses in a row to Michigan and well the OSU faithful will NOT take that well. That seat will get SERIOUSLY hot if he loses for the 3rd year in a row to Michigan.
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did the loss to the Gophers cause Wisconsin to move on from Jim and go with the outsider?
The rumblings were that Fickell said he wasn't interested, and then in the last couple days decided he was.
Before that, it was Jim's to lose, with Aranda maybe being the next option. Weird outcome, but I guess my team got an in-demand coach, and that's nice.
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did the loss to the Gophers cause Wisconsin to move on from Jim and go with the outsider?
No.
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I think I a vacuum, it's a home run hire, but this was Michigan's "down" year. The OL will probably take a step back, but I think they'll be better at every other position next year. OSU has to go to Ann Arbor with a new offense. I don't see how they win, and when they don't, it's not the 90s anymore. John Cooper doesn't have that same leash. I think the OSU job is available 365 days from now
The heat is turned up high NOW on Day. You know that when there are comments coming in from boosters and former players.
But it is nuanced. It isn’t just about losing. It’s about how your team plays and fights through adversity during such an important game. The buckeyes folded like a cheap tent when they clearly had the horses to not only win this game but probably dominate it to some extent. Hell, you could see it through the television and even the announcers were saying it repeatedly.
If Ohio State goes to Ann Arbor next year as a sizable underdog, which is highly likely, but plays their asses off and comes up short, you could make an argument that the heat will be less than it is now.
It was the untimely, self-inflicted and boneheaded penalties and complete lack of ability to play pass defense while the ball is in the air that has led to the heat being turned up right now. During the season they gave up the occasional big pass play but it was almost always a contested ball that the defensive back lost because they didn’t turn and look for the ball. This past Saturday it was any ball that was thrown in the air and there were no defensive backs near the receiver. When a tight end can get 15 yards behind the entire defense while the quarterback is being rushed in the pocket, That is beyond embarrassing.
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I think I a vacuum, it's a home run hire, but this was Michigan's "down" year. The OL will probably take a step back, but I think they'll be better at every other position next year. OSU has to go to Ann Arbor with a new offense. I don't see how they win, and when they don't, it's not the 90s anymore. John Cooper doesn't have that same leash. I think the OSU job is available 365 days from now
IMO it should be open now,it's not the old days where firing a guy could effect his family.Keeping him will effect many more.Day and his DC Knowles make 11.5 together.He just lost as many games to Michigan as Tressel/Meyer did in 18 yrs.And they were embarrassments,it's as if he's a Ponzi Scheme on the Ohio State campus that's now unraveling.If he takes a pay cut like Harbaugh then keep him around.He's grossly overpaid to do one thing and he displayed he wasn't only not prepared but didn't adjust either
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The rumblings were that Fickell said he wasn't interested, and then in the last couple days decided he was.
Before that, it was Jim's to lose, with Aranda maybe being the next option. Weird outcome, but I guess my team got an in-demand coach, and that's nice.
My guess is that Fickell got interested when Wisconsin decided to meet Fickell's latest demands instead of taking Wisconsin's original proposal.
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Cruising the Ohio State blogs for some juicy schadenfreude I noticed that a lot of Buckeye fans are wringing their hands over Fickell going to Wisconsin. Many want him back in Columbus.
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at least Day is losing to good Michigan teams
maybe it's time to bring back Meyer?
I can't think of another coach besides Saban that has a better record than Ryan
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maybe bring Bobby Stoops back to Ohio?
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OSU WR's coach Brian Hartline interviewing with Cinci to be their next head coach.
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Trent Dilfer expected to be named the new UAB head coach
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Freeze to Auburn is official.
Colorado has offered Deion Sanders it's head coaching job. If I'm Deion I pass and wait for a better job. He keeps building Jackson State into a power he can almost pick his job the next time a good one opens up.
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OSU WR's coach Brian Hartline interviewing with Cinci to be their next head coach.
!@#*&^%$ <{" Dafuq
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Freeze to Auburn is official.
Colorado has offered Deion Sanders it's head coaching job. If I'm Deion I pass and wait for a better job. He keeps building Jackson State into a power he can almost pick his job the next time a good one opens up.
Meh,he may be lucky but there are much better choices out there
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at least Day is losing to good Michigan teams
maybe it's time to bring back Meyer?
I can't think of another coach besides Saban that has a better record than Ryan
OSU Prez is going through a scandal of her own, so he wouldn't have to worry about her on her high horse.
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!@#*&^%$ <{" Dafuq
Lol. I understand that reaction. Hartline is a great coach and I think the reason so many top receivers end up at OSU.
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Deion Sanders reportedly listening very intently to Colorado. Sounds like he might take the job. Colorado has reportedly offered him a deal north of $5 million a year.
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I didn't know Ralphie had that kind of $$$
I might be going to Boulder on 09/09 to watch watch the Huskers Rhule Neon and Ralphie
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Satterfield leaving Louisville for Cincinnati, which should reopen talk of Brohm to Louisville. I don't know what kind contract Brohm has at Purdue. Cincinnati play Louisville in a bowl game this year.
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I didn't know Ralphie had that kind of $$$
I might be going to Boulder on 09/09 to watch watch the Huskers Rhule Neon and Ralphie
Tell Rhule to stay the hell away from Ralphie,one day he's going to curb stomp some one
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Satterfield leaving Louisville for Cincinnati, which should reopen talk of Brohm to Louisville. I don't know what kind contract Brohm has at Purdue. Cincinnati play Louisville in a bowl game this year.
a big ten program should have a helluva lot bigger purse than an ACC program
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a big ten program should have a helluva lot bigger purse than an ACC program
true. but Jeff Brohm is from Louisiville, KY and he played QB at Louisville. not saying he'll go, he already turned that job down once to stay at Purdue.
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honestly with the NIL money Louisville is pouring into the football program, I'd LOVE to see Brohm go there. His scheme/play-calling is awesome. I'd love to see what he could do with a better caliber of athlete on his roster.
Louisville for example has 5* #1 RB Rueben Owens out of Texas committed to them for 2023. Apparently got a huge NIL deal on the table once he signs. They also have a top 100 recruit (#78 overall) that plays WR out of California in 2023.
I want to see a Brohm offense stocked to the cupboards full of guys like that. It'd be quite the show.
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I'd rather see him stock the cupboard here in the big ten west and elevate the competition here
F the ACC
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I'd rather see him stock the cupboard here in the big ten west and elevate the competition here
F the ACC
I wouldn't mind that either, but he's not getting the type of players at Purdue that he can get at Louisville with that NIL program.
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he needs to steal more from Brian, obviously
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Ohio St OC/TE coach Kevin Wilson to Tulsa.
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put aside Brohm's personal connections to Louisville and the city, making that move right now could make a lot of sense from his perspective....
Wisconsin and Nebraska have been way down this year and he still only backed into winning the West. IF Luke Fickell and Matt Rhule really are legit coaches, both those programs will get better. Fast. And they are above Purdue in the pecking order historically speaking. Not to mention when USC and UCLA join and if they keep West/East divisions- well his division just got even tougher. Now if they decide to move Purdue to the East to balance out the divisions- he's going to a division with Ohio St/Mich/Penn State automatically in front of him with huge recruiting advantages over him.
At Louisville not only is that program committing serious resources to NIL in order to recruit higher end talent than he can get at Purdue, he's got an open opportunity to take over a terrible conference and win a division on a yearly basis where his only real competition will be one team: Clemson- and it's a Clemson team that has been trending down the past 2-3 years.
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Very little chance they keep the east/west divisions in my view at all (we'd barely play the other division), but the competion in a 16 team Big Ten is not good for conference championships, especially for programs that need more to go right. It is a cost of the last few rounds I think has been underappreicated.
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Wisconsin DC Jim Leonhard is moving on.
Kent State Head Coach is leaving to be Deion Sanders' offensive co-ordinator at Colorado. Whoa. Also, sounds like 2022 #1 overall recruit DB Travis Hunter is hitting the portal and following Deion to Colorado. Deion should hit the phones and offer Leonhard the DC job at Colorado. Deion is going to get players to follow him- he builds an ace staff to develop those players he's going to take over the PAC by 2025 at the latest.
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If Purdue could only engineer an effective NIL...
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Brohm to Louisville
https://twitter.com/ClowESPN/status/1600526529326358528?s=20&t=1WoQHmRUPikTJrcqpejppw
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At Louisville not only is that program committing serious resources to NIL in order to recruit higher end talent than he can get at Purdue, he's got an open opportunity to take over a terrible conference and win a division on a yearly basis where his only real competition will be one team: Clemson- and it's a Clemson team that has been trending down the past 2-3 years.
Is L'Ville open right now?Brohm has a lot of upside
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if I'm Purdue first guy I'm calling is Jim Leonhard
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Damn Brohm's a rich man could be a stepping stone......or a stumbling block
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Brohm to Louisville
(https://i.imgur.com/eldKikm.png)
Rueben Owens, the No. 2 running back from the 2023 class, has decommitted from Louisville. He announced this decision just moments ago on social media.
"I would like to thank the Louisville family and fans for all of the love you have shown me throughout this process. This is bittersweet for me, due to all the relationships that have been developed," Owens tweeted. (https://twitter.com/ii_rueben/status/1600616000080281605?s=20&t=SIvINJXm1GIM67ydOd1YYA) "After talking to my parents and taking everything into consideration I have decided to decommit from the University of Louisville. I will remain prayerful and grateful in this journey."
Owens originally gave Louisville his commitment in June.
So Brohm off to a smashing start
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(https://i.imgur.com/eldKikm.png)
Rueben Owens, the No. 2 running back from the 2023 class, has decommitted from Louisville. He announced this decision just moments ago on social media.
"I would like to thank the Louisville family and fans for all of the love you have shown me throughout this process. This is bittersweet for me, due to all the relationships that have been developed," Owens tweeted. (https://twitter.com/ii_rueben/status/1600616000080281605?s=20&t=SIvINJXm1GIM67ydOd1YYA) "After talking to my parents and taking everything into consideration I have decided to decommit from the University of Louisville. I will remain prayerful and grateful in this journey."
Owens originally gave Louisville his commitment in June.
So Brohm off to a smashing start
sounds like that 5* #1 RB Owens is about to commit to A&M. Louisville coach leaving for Cinci opened the door and A&M NIL collective brought a bigger bag full of cash than Louisville NIL collective had lined up for him.
Wonder if we're going to see more 5* busts than before as more and more 5* 'croots just go for the short term easy money bag up front and instant gratification than the long term of goal of being developed by an elite coaching staff that has a track record of cultivating talent, winning, and putting guys into the NFL.
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Damn just crazy,and ya know the damn networx poisoned the sport.Unbelievable what the coaches are fetching,can't blame the kids
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Mama called...
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sounds like that 5* #1 RB Owens is about to commit to A&M. Louisville coach leaving for Cinci opened the door and A&M NIL collective brought a bigger bag full of cash than Louisville NIL collective had lined up for him.
Wonder if we're going to see more 5* busts than before as more and more 5* 'croots just go for the short term easy money bag up front and instant gratification than the long term of goal of being developed by an elite coaching staff that has a track record of cultivating talent, winning, and putting guys into the NFL.
Flipped to A&M officially
Signing Day should go away in the NIL era. You can put pen to paper at any point if there's money on the table. Both ways
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Flipped to A&M officially
Signing Day should go away in the NIL era. You can put pen to paper at any point if there's money on the table. Both ways
yup. main reason Owens was going to Louisville was because he had a fat NIL deal lined up. Michigan tried to recruit him and he basically said what you offering NIL, 'cause don't talk to me unless you got the cash. Show me the money. A&M got the in once Louisville coach left and offered more.
NIL deals should be removed from recruiting. Think they should put a thing in there that says freshman can't get NIL deals.
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yup. main reason Owens was going to Louisville was because he had a fat NIL deal lined up. Michigan tried to recruit him and he basically said what you offering NIL, 'cause don't talk to me unless you got the cash. Show me the money. A&M got the in once Louisville coach left and offered more.
NIL deals should be removed from recruiting. Think they should put a thing in there that says freshman can't get NIL deals.
Technically it's not part of recruiting right now, as I understand it.
But... tell me what the hell the NCAA is gonna do about it?
<<<crickets>>>
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NIL deals should be removed from recruiting. Think they should put a thing in there that says freshman can't get NIL deals.
My thought was to keep kids out of NIL until they passed a Marketing/Finance/Management course to help the student navigate all the ins and outs of NIL. I also think all agents who want to work with an athlete at a school must use a school sponsored/monitored email account and sign an integrity type document. Just as a base starting off point.
These "shell" companies that are just glorified boosters paying for the best athlete feels even more dirty than when they were doing it under the table. I haven't heard any stories yet, but where ever there is money there will be money suckers as well. I just waiting to hear about the poor college kid whose agents takes 80% of what he got for his NIL.
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I think it very possible NIL is ruining some otherwise talented teams ...
I also agree it needs to be limited and adjusted and managed, maybe the monies go into a trust.
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the courts have decided ya can't limit the kid's ability to profit
gonna be tough putting controls or limits on things now
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CFB = semipro now where some players get paid a lot, some get a scholarship, and some get bruised up for nothing.
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https://twitter.com/nocontextcfb/status/1601038412810633216?s=20&t=9Hfy7yyMYEGqCCLb7X9YrQ
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Coach Boyle isn't wrong, they are 5-5