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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: medinabuckeye1 on November 19, 2022, 06:52:50 PM
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Link to last week's rankings:
https://www.cfb51.com/big-ten/b1g-power-rankings-week-11-31317/
Votes through me, 10 voters:
(https://i.imgur.com/GVXdhyq.png)
Drop the high and low:
(https://i.imgur.com/wSHzaAm.png)
Schedule/performance table:
(https://i.imgur.com/ls7nCqF.png)
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1) Ohio State
2) Michigan
Next week will be the battle for #1.
Drop off….
3) Penn State
Rest of this league stinks. Rank them 4-14 however you like don’t think it matters.
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1) Ohio state
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2) Team coddled by league office
3) everyone else
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1) Ohio state
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2) Team coddled by league office
3) everyone else
funny....
fun fact...do you know former OSU coach Zach Smith does a college football podcast every week, it's great you should watch it you might learn something- he does deep dives into the analytics and really breaks things down- and you know which team has been most hurt by penalties/refs in the B1G this year according to the advanced analytics? MICHIGAN.
Welp, there goes your stupid little theory down the drain susan.
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1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. Penn State
4. Iowa
5. Illinois
6. Purdue
7. Maryland
8. Minnesota
9. Michigan State
10. Wisconsin
11. Nebraska
12. Indiana
13. Rutgers
14. Northwestern
That first half offensive pass interference pick play not called against Michigan is the principle reason Michigan is undefeated. But they are undefeated, and as such, deserve to be #2.
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Paper tigers: 1. Ohio State 2. Michigan
Better than the rest (maybe): Penn State
4. Iowa
5. Illinois
6. Wisconsin
7. Minnesota
8. Purdue
9. Maryland
10. Rutgers
11. Nebraska
12. Indiana
13. Michigan State
14. Northwestern
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1. Ohio State
2 Michigan
3. Penn State
4. Maryland
5. Iowa
6. Purdue
7. Illinois
8. Wisconsin
9. Minnesota
10. Rutgers
11. Nebraska
12. Indiana
13. Michigan State
14. Northwestern
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What to do with Iowa? Iowa can make power rankings very confusing because they keep beating teams they shouldn't be beating. Or maybe they should be. The key is Iowa can beat any of the little 11 and can lose to any of the little 11 based on how many takeaways and scores the defense and special teams get that day. Oh well, for now Iowa is the king of the little 11.
1. Mich - was tempted to drop Mich to #2 because they are so banged up. But turns out it was a weird day where all you have to do is survive. So for now keeping them at #1.
2. OSU - they survived. That's all that matters.
3. PSU - lost in all the discussion is how much PSU has gotten better late this season.
4. Iowa - Yes, for now, Iowa is the king of the little 11.
5. Purdue - still has a good chance to win the West.
6. ILL - they were so close to saving their season.
7. Minn - still can't believe they blew that game to Iowa.
8. Wisc - still has a chance to tie for 1st in West
9. MD - decent effort.
10. MSU. - bowl game now in jeopardy.
11. Neb - team still losing close games just like last year.
12. RUT - bowl game is officially gone. There is always next year.
13. IND - should be giving IND a bump up after beating MSU but writing it off as just a weird day instead.
14. NW
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1)Michigan - it's been working so far
2)tOSU - have the evil doers @ The Horseshoe
3)PSU won in impressive fashion
Let you guys figure out the rest of that nested mess
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Not my ranking, a completely objective ranking based on MOV (with no adjustments for H/A or "garbage time", just raw score differential).
Each B1G team has played eight B1G games. Each of their opponents are ranked 1-8 based on scoring differential against. Then those rankings are averaged for each team. NOTE: We now have a couple of ties. If applicable I break those on the basis of Home/Away. If not I average the rankings. For example, PSU and UMD both lost to tOSU by 13 and both did it on their own field. That is the best any team has done against the Buckeyes so they each got 1.5 then the next best (NU lost by 14) got a 3. Rankings:
- 1.75 Ohio State: Best against Iowa, MSU, UW, and IU; second-best against PSU, UMD, and RU; fourth-best against NU.
- 2.50 Michigan: Best against PSU and UNL; second-best against Iowa; third-best against IL, MSU, RU, IU; fourth-best against UMD.
- 2.56 Penn State: Best against MN, UMD, and RU; tied for best against tOSU; second best against IU; third best against PU; fifth-best against NU; sixth-best against M.
- 4.00 Iowa
- 4.00 Illinois
- 4.25 Minnesota
- 4.33 Wisconsin
- 4.63 Purdue
- 4.69 Maryland
- 5.25 Michigan State
- 6.00 Northwestern
- 6.14 Nebraska
- 6.25 Indiana
- 6.88 Rutgers
Here is the data (if you catch any mistakes let me know and I'll correct them):
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Finally, here is the updated schedule/performance table (rankings based on last week):
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OHIO STATE
MICHIGAN
PENN STATE
ILLINOIS
Iowa
PURDUE
Minnesota
Michigan State
Wisconsin
Maryland
Nebraska
Rutgers
Indiana
Northwestern
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- Ohio State - Not a great showing this past weekend, but it seems that it affected all of the top rated teams. But throw all of that out because it is HATE WEEK and TSUN STILL SUCKS!
- TSUN - Who cares, they suck this week!
- Penn State - Are making a good case to be ranked higher. They are looking as good or better than the top two right now.
- Iowa - Who knows? Pick any of the next 5 or 6. But Iowa does control their own destiny, so I am ranking them here.
- Maryland - They played the 2 top teams in the conference and looked good doing it. Putting them here.
- Purdue - Who knows?
- Illinois - Ditto
- Wisconsin - Ditto
- Minnesota - Ditto
- Michigan State - Just when we thought they were turning things around, their special teams let them down.
- Rutgers - Are they better than the teams below them? Right now, maybe.
- Nebraska - I have no idea.
- Indiana - Nice win for them.
- Northwestern - They are aweful.
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- Ohio State
- Michigan
- Penn State
- Illinois
- Wisconsin
- Iowa
- Maryland
- Minnesota
- Purdue
- Nebraska
- Rutgers
- Indiana
- Michigan State
- Northwestern
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Last week in parentheses
- MICHIGAN (1) - Jake Moody is probably their MVP
- OHIO STATE (2) - survive and advance
- PENN STATE (3) - probably the only ranking I'm 100% confident in
- IOWA (5) - how do you let one back run for 230+ yards and only surrender 10 points?
- ILLINOIS (4) - were one first down away from a likely Big Ten Championship Game trip
- PURDUE (7) - did what they needed to
- MARYLAND (8) - have turned College Park into OSU's near House of Horrors
- MINNESOTA (6) - how do you have one back run for 230+ yards and only score 10 points?
- WISCONSIN (10) - odd that a 1 point win over Nebraska might get Jim Leonhard the job
- MICHIGAN STATE (9) - absolute disaster of a special teams unit
- INDIANA (14) - box score looked more like an Army game
- NEBRASKA (11) - nice throwback to 2021
- RUTGERS (12) - fading hard down the stretch
- NORTHWESTERN (13) - if Illinois had won, at least they could still ruin the season for their rivals
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Paper tigers: 1. Ohio State 2. Michigan
Better than the rest (maybe): Penn State
4. Iowa
5. Illinois
6. Wisconsin
7. Minnesota
8. Purdue
9. Maryland
10. Rutgers
11. Nebraska
12. Indiana
13. Michigan State
14. Northwestern
probably accurate. this conference stinks outside of the top 3 teams in the east. don't remember it being so bad. Wisconsin is majorly down. MSU fell off the map from last year. Iowa has excellent defense but maybe the worst offense I have ever seen in my life. Minnesota crapped the bed in a year that should've been theirs in the West. Nebraska is horrible and Frost got fired. just a lousy year in the B1G.
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Composite computer rankings (87 rankings - last week in parenthesis)
- Georgia (1)
- OHIO STATE (2)
- MICHIGAN (4)
- TCU (5)
- Alabama (6)
- Tennessee (3)
- Clemson (9)
- PENN STATE (8)
- LSU (7)
- USC (11)
- Kansas State (12)
- Oregon (13)
- Utah (10)
- Texas (15)
- Florida State (16)
- Notre Dame (17)
- Washington (21)
- Ole Miss (14)
- Oregon State (23)
- Mississippi State (24)
- UCLA (18)
- Tulane (-)
- Louisville (-)
- North Carolina (20)
- Cincinnati (-)
- 26. Iowa (32)
- 30. Illinois (27)
- 41. Minnesota (33)
- 43. Purdue (38)
- 48. Maryland (47)
- 52. Wisconsin (50)
- 63. Michigan State (54)
- 78. Indiana (89)
- 96. Rutgers (91)
- 97. Nebraska (95)
- 115. Northwestern (113)
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1) Michigan
2) Ohio State
3) Penn State
4) Iowa
5) Purdue
6) Illinois
7) Wisconsin
8) Maryland
9) Minnesota
10) Michigan State
11) Nebraska
12) Indiana
13) Rutgers
14) Northwestern
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I will say, based on some of these rankings, MSU gets held to a weirdly high standard. The computers have them #10, and closer to #8 than #11, and closer to #5 than #13, yet I see people voting them there. Glad to get the respect I guess?
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PSU - lost in all the discussion is how much PSU has gotten better late this season.
I think you are probably right but it is hard to tell because:
PENN STATE (3) - probably the only ranking I'm 100% confident in
It is hard to tell because, as @ELA (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=55) references the Nittany Lions reside in a land all by themselves well behind the top two and well ahead of the bottom 11.
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I wouldn't want to play Penn State again. It's hard to move them higher than 3, based on head to head, but they look really good right now. Gonna cruise to 10 wins and hopefully score a quality bowl win.
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- Michigan - After they needed a last second FG to beat Illinois I was prepared to drop them but then
- Ohio State - needed a late surge to end up with a 13 point win.
- Penn State - There is no debate about #3.
- Iowa - I have Iowa here because they seem to have a magical ability to win in spite of themselves.
- Illinois - So close.
- Maryland - Would be a contender in the West.
- Purdue - Might win the West.
- Minnesota - So close.
- Wisconsin - I may be wrong about #8/9, we'll find out this weekend.
- Michigan State - That didn't look good.
- Nebraska - Welp, back to losing close.
- Indiana - In spite of the upset win in East Lansing, they are not good.
- Rutgers - Fading
- Northwestern - Fitz needs to turn this around.
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6. Maryland - Would be a contender in the West.
Maryland 29 - 31 Purdue
Maryland 31 - 24 Northwestern
Maryland 10 - 23 Wisconsin
Maryland, 1-2 against the West
Maryland, 2-3 against the East
I would say Maryland would possibly contend for a 3rd place tie in the West.
I would like to argue that the 5 BTW teams scrunched up in the standings are better than what appears from their conference records, but I cannot make that argument about any of them. Illinois was undefeated in nonconference games. Illinois' only P-5 nonconference opponent was 3-7 Virginia. Iowa lost to cellar dweller Iowa State 10-7 nonconference. Purdue lost to Syracuse 32-29 nonconference. Minnesota (4-4) / (7-4) won all 3 nonconference games over NM State, Western Illinois and Colorado, i.e. Minnesota didn't play anybody.
An argument could be made that Iowa is improving, but the opposite argument could be made that they are playing like they have played all season. The past 4 opponents it could be argued are just simply, weak opponents.
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weak opponents.
Wisconsin and Minnesoota handed Iowa the game on a platter
I assume Nebraska will do the same thing Friday afternoon
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Illinois is 2nd in the West and went 0-3 against the East, and got to play two teams who aren't going to bowls as crossovers
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why I have Illinois ranked above Iowa
and that little head to head thing
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Results posted.