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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: medinabuckeye1 on November 12, 2022, 07:19:40 PM
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Link to last week's rankings
https://www.cfb51.com/big-ten/b1g-power-rankings-week-10-31183/
Votes through me, 13 voters:
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Drop the highest and lowest vote for each team:
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Schedule/performance table:
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1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. Penn State
4. Iowa
5. Minnesota
6. Maryland
7. Illinois
8. Michigan State
9. Wisconsin
10. Purdue
11. Rutgers
12. Nebraska
13. Indiana
14. Northwestern
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1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. Penn State
4. Iowa
5. Minnesota
6. Illinois
7. Michigan State
8. Wisconsin
9. Purdue
10. Maryland
11. Rutgers
12. Nebraska
13. Northwestern
14. Indiana
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1)Michigan
2)tOSU
3)PSU
4)Illinois I guess as weekly no 4s seem to lose
5)Gophs
6) Iowa
7)MSU
8)UW
9)Boilers
10)Terps
11)RU
12)UNL
13)Hoosiers
14)NU
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Does Iowa have its groove back? Iowa had 146 yards of total offense and still wins by 14 points. Iowa's 3 TD's were scored on a pick-6, a 17-yard drive after a blocked punt, and an 18-yard drive after a 41-yard punt return. There is no way Iowa should be 4th but who else do you put there? ILL? MSU? Purdue? Wisc? MD? Minn?
1. Mich
2. OSU
3. PSU
4. Iowa
5. MSU
6. ILL
7. Wisc
8. Pur
9. Minn
10. MD
11. Neb
12. Rut
13. Ind
14. NW
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There is no way Iowa should be 4th but who else do you put there? ILL? MSU? Purdue? Wisc? MD? Minn?
Correct that spot has been getting rotated weekly if participants are paying attention.Iowa has been playing well as of recent but the Illini beat them a month back.And still have a better overall record but they are even in conference
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Does Iowa got its groove back? Iowa has 146 yards of total offense and wins by 14 points. Iowa's 3 TD's were scored on a pick-6, a 17-yard drive after a blocked punt, and an 18-yard drive after a 41-yard punt return. There is no way Iowa should be 4th but who else do you put there? ILL? MSU? Purdue? Wisc? MD? Minn?
Illinois
head to head
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OHIO STATE
MICHIGAN
PENN STATE
ILLINOIS
Minnesota
Michigan State
Iowa
PURDUE
Wisconsin
Maryland
Nebraska
Rutgers
Indiana
Northwestern
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Correct that spot has been getting rotated weekly if participants are paying attention.Iowa has been playing well as of recent but the Illini beat them a month back.And still have a better overall record but they are even in conference
It is like the West Championship is a hot potato nobody wants.
After Minnesota's blowout of MSU in East Lansing most of us thought they'd run away with it. They followed that up with three straight losses all by double digits.
Purdue was the first of thise three straight losses by the Gophers and they looked to be in control after four straight wins. They followed that up with back to back blowout losses to the Badgers and Hawkeyes.
Illinois blew out Nebraska in Lincoln and could have clinched by winning what looked like easy home games against MSU and Purdue. They followed that up with back-to-back home upset losses.
Now Iowa seems to be in the best position because I'm assuming Illinois will lose in Ann Arbor, and Iowa wins a tie with Purdue. We'll see . . .
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Iowa will lose with that offense
Purdue won't with those two creampuffs
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Brian & Lil' Red might take offense to that
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1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. Penn State
4. Iowa
5. Minnesota
6. Purdue
7. Illinois
8. Maryland
9. Michigan State
10. Wisconsin
11. Nebraska
12. Rutgers
13. Indiana
14. Northwestern
There is quite a distance in quality between #3 and #4. I have a hard time putting Iowa #4 as weak as the offense continues to be, and especially given the strength of Minnesota's defense. Minnesota seems like a more well-rounded team, but that is true in part because its strength of schedule is not similar to Iowa's. Iowa's SOS is 31, and Minnesota's is 72 according to this website: 2022 College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings (powerrankingsguru.com) (http://powerrankingsguru.com/college-football/strength-of-schedule.php) Tanner Morgan was out against Northwestern.
Like it or not, that's my explanation for #4 and #5.
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a solid explanation
and we are lucky enuff to find out next Saturday
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OHIO STATE
MICHIGAN
PENN STATE
ILLINOIS
Minnesota
Iowa
PURDUE
Michigan State
Wisconsin
Maryland
Nebraska
Rutgers
Northwestern
Indiana
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- Michigan
- Ohio State
- Penn State
- Iowa
- Purdue
- Maryland
- Michigan State
- Illinois
- Wisconsin
- Minnesota
- Nebraska
- Indiana
- Rutgers
- Northwestern
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Illinois
head to head
Not if they played today.
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OHIO STATE
MICHIGAN
PENN STATE
ILLINOIS
Minnesota
Michigan State
Iowa
PURDUE
Wisconsin
Maryland
Nebraska
Rutgers
Indiana
Northwestern
Head to head?
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He was referring to Illinois-Iowa head-2-head which is true,he's right you can't cherry pick the season.Now as to who this Big Red is I'll leave that up you two
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He was referring to Illinois-Iowa head-2-head which is true,he's right you can't cherry pick the season.Now as to who this Big Red is I'll leave that up you two
That gets decided in Lincoln this week.
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Is Cornell gonna be there?
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Is Cornell gonna be there?
That might be better.
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Ha over on a Buckeye Board they are bantering about who or how the West Div.will be won and all the different scenarios.One guy stated
"Maybe put together an all star team to face the winner from the East."
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You could combine Nebraska and Wisconsin's rosters, and I'm still pickin' Cornell. :098:
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So who faffed their season up the most Minnestoa/Iowa or the Illini? It's like they all want to go home or are in the Holiday Spirit of Giving.Certainly makes for an intersting end
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Like a game of hot potato.
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You could combine Nebraska and Wisconsin's rosters, and I'm still pickin' Cornell. :098:
In a spelling bee?
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- Ohio State - Showed good balance Sat, but it was only Indiana. Depth at RB is going to be a big concern going forward.
- Michigan - A good beat down of Neb. Not a lot of seperation between 1 & 2. Should be a classic in Columbus. I don't think Illinois will pose much of a threat.
- Penn State - That defense is looking great.
- Iowa - I have to agree with others here, not sure who else I would put ahead of them.
- Illinois - This ranking is based on their defense minus this last performance against Purdue.
- Minnesota - Jekyll and Hyde. Which team shows up Sat?
- Maryland - Things don't get any easier this week.
- Purdue - The next 2 games are very winable. Division hopes are still alive.
- Michigan State - Should be able to handle the Hoosiers this week and then have to face a PSU team that looks like they are playing as well as anyone in the conf next weekend.
- Wisconsin - They need to get their special teams fixed.
- Rutgers - They are playing better, just not reflected in the win column.
- Nebraska - Are they really better than the 2 teams below them?
- Indiana - They need help.
- Northwestern - See above.
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- Rutgers - They are playing better, just not reflected in the win column.
- Nebraska - Are they really better than the 2 teams below them?
- Indiana - They need help.
- Northwestern - See above.
don't know about Northwestern, but they're better than the team above them
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- Ohio State
- Michigan
- Penn State
- Illinois
- Maryland
- Purdue
- Minnesota
- Iowa
- Wisconsin
- Michigan State
- Rutgers
- Nebraska
- Northwestern
- Indiana
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Head to head?
Not if they played today.
(See how that works! :72:)
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Not if they played today.
(See how that works! :72:)
I was responding to Fearless' post.
I know how it works.
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So who faffed their season up the most Minnestoa/Iowa or the Illini? It's like they all want to go home or are in the Holiday Spirit of Giving.Certainly makes for an intersting end
I know that 9-6 Illinois-Iowa game was the classic give-away game. Illinois kept trying to give the game away and Iowa kept giving it right back.
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So who faffed their season up the most Minnestoa/Iowa or the Illini? It's like they all want to go home or are in the Holiday Spirit of Giving.Certainly makes for an intersting end
Illinois didn't have expectations going into the season
gotta be the defending West champs with that offense or the Gophers
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1) Michigan - Clean win
2) Ohio State - More injuries in the running game, but an easy win
3) Penn State - Absolutely mowing down the teams they should beat
Big Drop
4) Iowa - Getting things done w/ defense and special teams. Offense is at least not turning it over
5) Illinois - Back to back tough results.
6) Wisconsin - Disappointing result.
7) Purdue - Nice win on the road. They have a path to the West title.
8) Minnesota - Beats up the bad teams, but no great wins yet.
9) Maryland - No pulse against Penn State
10) Michigan State - On the way to a bowl
11) Rutgers - Hung around
12) Nebraska - Fairly lifeless with the Smothers in there at QB
13) Indiana - Couldn't stop anything and over half of their drives were 3 and outs.
14) Northwestern - Not as pretty when the weather is better
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don't know about Northwestern, but they're better than the team above them
They may be right now. I really don't know. I just base my rankings on how I see the teams that day, not what they have done in the past per say. I am using the eye test. If I was basing it on who beat who, I would just list the current standings.
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well, w/o Casey Thompson, Rutgers might be able to win vs the Huskers
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4) Iowa - Getting things done w/ defense and special teams. Offense is at least not turning it over
They are not vaccinated. They turned it over 6x vs. Ohio State.
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Last week in parentheses, I have no clue at #4-#10
- MICHIGAN (1) - easy win
- OHIO STATE (2) - easy win
- PENN STATE (3) - easy win
- ILLINOIS (4) - really figured they'd be 9-1 going to Ann Arbor, not 7-3 without their best player
- IOWA (7) - assumed the CCG hopes had sailed, and then everything broke right
- MINNESOTA (8) - likely going to need SOME passing attack to beat Iowa and Wisconsin
- PURDUE (10) - looks like Aidan O'Connell read my post from last week
- MARYLAND (6) - so much for showing fight in a rivalry game
- MICHIGAN STATE (9) - defense showed they probably need to suspended/injured players back
- WISCONSIN (5) - maybe head coach doesn't really matter this year, it's just a mediocre roster
- NEBRASKA (11) - probably not worth bringing Casey Thompson back for that
- RUTGERS (12) - at least they got the back door cover, but 6 wins looks out now
- NORTHWESTERN (13) - using 4 quarterbacks in a loss is never a good sign
- INDIANA (14) - all that's left is to play spoiler in a couple trophy games
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Composite computer rankings (83 rankings - last week in parenthesis)
- Georgia (1)
- OHIO STATE (2)
- Tennessee (3)
- MICHIGAN (4)
- TCU (5)
- Alabama (6)
- LSU (8)
- PENN STATE (11)
- Clemson (9)
- Utah (13)
- USC (10)
- Kansas State (16)
- Oregon (7)
- Ole Miss (14)
- Texas (15)
- Florida State (21)
- Notre Dame (17)
- UCLA (12)
- Central Florida (24)
- North Carolina (22)
- Washington (-)
- Oklahoma State (-)
- Oregon State (-)
- Mississippi State (18)
- Florida (-)
- 27. Illinois (19)
- 32. Iowa (43)
- 33. Minnesota (39)
- 38. Purdue (53)
- 47. Maryland (38)
- 50. Wisconsin (42)
- 54. Michigan State (54)
- 89. Indiana (86)
- 91. Rutgers (91)
- 95. Nebraska (94)
- 113. Northwestern (110)
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A thought occurred to me today. What if ILL loses to Mich and Iowa wins out and wins the West division again?
Who is Big Ten Coach of the Year? Bret Beliema seemed like a lock before they fell apart. I guess you could give it to Harbaugh or Day, but they were expected to win. It would be hard to give it to Kirk Ferentz given the whole fiasco with his son coaching one of the worst offenses ever for a division winner.
But could they possibly give the award to Iowa defensive coordinater Phil Parker? Is that even allowed? Can you vote for an assistant coach for the COTY?
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give it to Bret
still exceeded expectations
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TCU should be in the top 4. Tennessee should be no where, they're not even their SEC division champ.
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give it to Bret
still exceeded expectations
I did not think it was possible but it feels like not a single team improved by over 1 game from their record last year.
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almost every team in the west is minus 1 from last season
that seems impossible
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almost every team in the west is minus 1 from last season
that seems impossible
I think I found the missing piece of the puzzle. Last year PSU was only 4-5, and was only 1-2 against the West. This year PSU will probably finish 6-3 or 7-2, and was 3-0 against the West.
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perhaps Franklin should win the award
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- Michigan: At this point the 1/2 discussion is pretty much moot since they meet in a little over a week. That said, tOSU has better overall scores in common opponent games but I'm not sure how healthy tOSU is and M was better against the best common opponent.
- Ohio State: If the RB's and JSN are all healthy they are probably #1.
- Penn State: All alone here, not all that close to #1/2 but vastly superior to #4 and below.
- Iowa: I really have no idea which team to put here. It feels like #4 through #10 are all basically interchangeable and it is just a matter of which team has a slightly better day.
- Minnesota: I mostly put the Gophers here because they play my #4 this week so it will straighten itself out.
- Illinois: Obviously #4 two weeks ago.
- Purdue: Still in the B1G-W race and they have the two worst teams in the league left so all they need is to win those and for Minnesota to be Iowa.
- Michigan State: This may be too low.
- Maryland: September Maryland would have clinched the West by now if they were in it.
- Wisconsin: Nice wins over UMD and PU but blown out by IL and a two-score loss to Iowa.
- Nebraska: Well, good luck with the new hire.
- Rutgers: Schiano may get them competitive but he isn't there yet.
- Indiana: The Hoosiers have fallen hard since they were competing with tOSU for the B1G-E title a few years ago.
- Northwestern: There is an argument to move them up but I don't see it yet.
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perhaps Franklin should win the award
Given that COTY is basically the award for the coach of the team that most exceeded expectations, it has to be BERT. If you look at our preseason rankings compared to current, it isn't close. Illinois is almost 5 spots ahead of where they were preseason and next best is Maryland at 3 spots up.
Nine teams are +/- 1.55 of where they started. The aforementioned Illinois and Maryland are way ahead. MSU (-3.27), NU (-3.64), and UW (-5.18) are way behind.
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- Michigan: At this point the 1/2 discussion is pretty much moot since they meet in a little over a week. That said, tOSU has better overall scores in common opponent games but I'm not sure how healthy tOSU is and M was better against the best common opponent.
- Ohio State: If the RB's and JSN are all healthy they are probably #1.
- Penn State: All alone here, not all that close to #1/2 but vastly superior to #4 and below.
- Iowa: I really have no idea which team to put here. It feels like #4 through #10 are all basically interchangeable and it is just a matter of which team has a slightly better day.
- Minnesota: I mostly put the Gophers here because they play my #4 this week so it will straighten itself out.
- Illinois: Obviously #4 two weeks ago.
- Purdue: Still in the B1G-W race and they have the two worst teams in the league left so all they need is to win those and for Minnesota to be Iowa.
- Michigan State: This may be too low.
- Maryland: September Maryland would have clinched the West by now if they were in it.
- Wisconsin: Nice wins over UMD and PU but blown out by IL and a two-score loss to Iowa.
- Nebraska: Well, good luck with the new hire.
- Rutgers: Schiano may get them competitive but he isn't there yet.
- Indiana: The Hoosiers have fallen hard since they were competing with tOSU for the B1G-E title a few years ago.
- Northwestern: There is an argument to move them up but I don't see it yet.
As a Buckeye fan I must agree about the health issues.
At the beginning of the season all the hype was around there three headed Heisman potential monster. Stroud, Henderson, and Smith- Njigba.
if you had told me they would have been pretty much the whole year without two of those three, not to mention huge chunks of the season without the two starting corners, I would never guess they would get to the point they are now.