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Title: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on November 12, 2022, 07:19:40 PM
Link to last week's rankings

https://www.cfb51.com/big-ten/b1g-power-rankings-week-10-31183/
Votes through me, 13 voters:
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Drop the highest and lowest vote for each team:
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Schedule/performance table:
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Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: Temp430 on November 13, 2022, 06:39:23 AM
1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. Penn State

4. Iowa
5. Minnesota
6. Maryland
7. Illinois
8. Michigan State
9. Wisconsin
10. Purdue

11. Rutgers
12. Nebraska
13. Indiana
14. Northwestern 
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 13, 2022, 07:39:36 AM
1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. Penn State
4. Iowa
5. Minnesota
6. Illinois
7. Michigan State
8. Wisconsin
9. Purdue
10. Maryland
11. Rutgers
12. Nebraska
13. Northwestern
14. Indiana


Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: MrNubbz on November 13, 2022, 08:25:16 AM
1)Michigan
2)tOSU
3)PSU
4)Illinois I guess as weekly no 4s seem to lose
5)Gophs
6) Iowa
7)MSU
8)UW
9)Boilers
10)Terps
11)RU
12)UNL
13)Hoosiers
14)NU
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: LittlePig on November 13, 2022, 08:40:05 AM
Does Iowa have its groove back?  Iowa had 146 yards of total offense and still wins by 14 points.  Iowa's 3 TD's were scored on a pick-6,  a 17-yard drive after a blocked punt, and an 18-yard drive after a 41-yard  punt return.  There is no way Iowa should be 4th but who else do you put there?  ILL?  MSU?  Purdue? Wisc?  MD?  Minn?

1. Mich
2. OSU
3. PSU
4. Iowa
5.  MSU
6.  ILL
7. Wisc
8. Pur
9.  Minn
10.  MD
11. Neb
12. Rut
13.  Ind
14. NW
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: MrNubbz on November 13, 2022, 01:20:55 PM
There is no way Iowa should be 4th but who else do you put there?  ILL?  MSU?  Purdue? Wisc?  MD?  Minn?
Correct that spot has been getting rotated weekly if participants are paying attention.Iowa has been playing well as of recent but the Illini beat them a month back.And still have a better overall record but they are even in conference
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: FearlessF on November 13, 2022, 01:36:14 PM
Does Iowa got its groove back?  Iowa has 146 yards of total offense and wins by 14 points.  Iowa's 3 TD's were scored on a pick-6,  a 17-yard drive after a blocked punt, and an 18-yard drive after a 41-yard  punt return.  There is no way Iowa should be 4th but who else do you put there?  ILL?  MSU?  Purdue? Wisc?  MD?  Minn?
Illinois

head to head
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: FearlessF on November 13, 2022, 01:38:56 PM
OHIO STATE
MICHIGAN
PENN STATE
ILLINOIS
Minnesota
Michigan State
Iowa
PURDUE
Wisconsin
Maryland
Nebraska
Rutgers
Indiana
Northwestern
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on November 13, 2022, 03:36:48 PM
Correct that spot has been getting rotated weekly if participants are paying attention.Iowa has been playing well as of recent but the Illini beat them a month back.And still have a better overall record but they are even in conference
It is like the West Championship is a hot potato nobody wants.

After Minnesota's blowout of MSU in East Lansing most of us thought they'd run away with it. They followed that up with three straight losses all by double digits. 

Purdue was the first of thise three straight losses by the Gophers and they looked to be in control after four straight wins. They followed that up with back to back blowout losses to the Badgers and Hawkeyes.

Illinois blew out Nebraska in Lincoln and could have clinched by winning what looked like easy home games against MSU and Purdue. They followed that up with back-to-back home upset losses.

Now Iowa seems to be in the best position because I'm assuming Illinois will lose in Ann Arbor, and Iowa wins a tie with Purdue. We'll see . . .
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: FearlessF on November 13, 2022, 03:52:12 PM
Iowa will lose with that offense

Purdue won't with those two creampuffs
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: MrNubbz on November 13, 2022, 03:55:20 PM
Brian & Lil' Red might take offense to that
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: Hawkinole on November 13, 2022, 06:10:25 PM
1.      Ohio State
2.      Michigan
3.      Penn State
4.      Iowa
5.      Minnesota
6.      Purdue
7.      Illinois
8.      Maryland
9.      Michigan State
10.  Wisconsin
11.  Nebraska
12.  Rutgers
13.  Indiana
14.  Northwestern


There is quite a distance in quality between #3 and #4. I have a hard time putting Iowa #4 as weak as the offense continues to be, and especially given the strength of Minnesota's defense. Minnesota seems like a more well-rounded team, but that is true in part because its strength of schedule is not similar to Iowa's. Iowa's SOS is 31, and Minnesota's is 72 according to this website: 2022 College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings (powerrankingsguru.com) (http://powerrankingsguru.com/college-football/strength-of-schedule.php) Tanner Morgan was out against Northwestern.
Like it or not, that's my explanation for #4 and #5. 

Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: FearlessF on November 13, 2022, 06:37:35 PM
a solid explanation

and we are lucky enuff to find out next Saturday

Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: Benthere2 on November 13, 2022, 09:22:37 PM
OHIO STATE
MICHIGAN
PENN STATE
ILLINOIS
Minnesota
Iowa
PURDUE

Michigan State
Wisconsin
Maryland
Nebraska
Rutgers
Northwestern

Indiana



Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 13, 2022, 11:28:15 PM


Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 14, 2022, 06:42:26 AM
Illinois

head to head
Not if they played today.
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 14, 2022, 06:43:11 AM
OHIO STATE
MICHIGAN
PENN STATE
ILLINOIS
Minnesota
Michigan State
Iowa
PURDUE
Wisconsin

Maryland
Nebraska
Rutgers
Indiana
Northwestern

Head to head?
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: MrNubbz on November 14, 2022, 07:30:04 AM
He was referring to Illinois-Iowa head-2-head which is true,he's right you can't cherry pick the season.Now as to who this Big Red is I'll leave that up you two 

(https://i.gifer.com/CxRU.gif)   
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 14, 2022, 07:35:57 AM
He was referring to Illinois-Iowa head-2-head which is true,he's right you can't cherry pick the season.Now as to who this Big Red is I'll leave that up you two


That gets decided in Lincoln this week.
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 14, 2022, 08:05:21 AM
Is Cornell gonna be there? 
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 14, 2022, 08:14:10 AM
Is Cornell gonna be there?
That might be better.
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: MrNubbz on November 14, 2022, 08:18:42 AM
Ha over on a Buckeye Board they are bantering about who or how the West Div.will be won and all the different scenarios.One guy stated

"Maybe put together an all star team to face the winner from the East." 
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 14, 2022, 08:18:51 AM

You could combine Nebraska and Wisconsin's rosters, and I'm still pickin' Cornell. :098:
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: MrNubbz on November 14, 2022, 08:48:24 AM
So who faffed their season up the most Minnestoa/Iowa or the Illini? It's like they all want to go home or are in the Holiday Spirit of Giving.Certainly makes for an intersting end
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 14, 2022, 08:51:15 AM
Like a game of hot potato. 
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 14, 2022, 08:53:33 AM
You could combine Nebraska and Wisconsin's rosters, and I'm still pickin' Cornell. :098:
In a spelling bee?
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: NorthernOhioBuckeye on November 14, 2022, 09:05:33 AM

Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: FearlessF on November 14, 2022, 09:15:20 AM
  • Rutgers - They are playing better, just not reflected in the win column.
  • Nebraska - Are they really better than the 2 teams below them?
  • Indiana - They need help.
  • Northwestern - See above.


don't know about Northwestern, but they're better than the team above them
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: LetsGoPeay on November 14, 2022, 10:11:33 AM


Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: grillrat on November 14, 2022, 10:17:59 AM
Head to head?
Not if they played today.

(See how that works!  :72:)
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 14, 2022, 10:22:11 AM
Not if they played today.

(See how that works!  :72:)
I was responding to Fearless' post.

I know how it works.
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: LittlePig on November 14, 2022, 10:26:44 AM
So who faffed their season up the most Minnestoa/Iowa or the Illini? It's like they all want to go home or are in the Holiday Spirit of Giving.Certainly makes for an intersting end
I know that 9-6 Illinois-Iowa game was the classic give-away game.  Illinois kept trying to give the game away and Iowa kept giving it right back.
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: FearlessF on November 14, 2022, 10:41:21 AM
So who faffed their season up the most Minnestoa/Iowa or the Illini? It's like they all want to go home or are in the Holiday Spirit of Giving.Certainly makes for an intersting end
Illinois didn't have expectations going into the season
gotta be the defending West champs with that offense or the Gophers
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: Abba on November 14, 2022, 11:54:38 AM
1) Michigan - Clean win
2) Ohio State - More injuries in the running game, but an easy win
3) Penn State - Absolutely mowing down the teams they should beat

Big Drop

4) Iowa - Getting things done w/ defense and special teams.  Offense is at least not turning it over
5) Illinois - Back to back tough results.
6) Wisconsin - Disappointing result.
7) Purdue - Nice win on the road.  They have a path to the West title.
8) Minnesota - Beats up the bad teams, but no great wins yet.  
9) Maryland - No pulse against Penn State
10) Michigan State - On the way to a bowl
11) Rutgers - Hung around
12) Nebraska - Fairly lifeless with the Smothers in there at QB
13) Indiana - Couldn't stop anything and over half of their drives were 3 and outs.
14) Northwestern - Not as pretty when the weather is better
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: NorthernOhioBuckeye on November 14, 2022, 03:14:01 PM
don't know about Northwestern, but they're better than the team above them
They may be right now. I really don't know. I just base my rankings on how I see the teams that day, not what they have done in the past per say. I am using the eye test. If I was basing it on who beat who, I would just list the current standings.
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: FearlessF on November 14, 2022, 03:28:33 PM
well, w/o Casey Thompson, Rutgers might be able to win vs the Huskers
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: Hawkinole on November 14, 2022, 11:48:07 PM
4) Iowa - Getting things done w/ defense and special teams.  Offense is at least not turning it over
They are not vaccinated. They turned it over 6x vs. Ohio State.
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: ELA on November 15, 2022, 03:17:35 PM
Last week in parentheses, I have no clue at #4-#10

Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: ELA on November 15, 2022, 04:59:23 PM
Composite computer rankings (83 rankings - last week in parenthesis)



Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: LittlePig on November 18, 2022, 08:48:28 AM
A thought occurred to me today.  What if ILL loses to Mich and Iowa wins out and wins the West division again?

Who is Big Ten Coach of the Year?  Bret Beliema seemed like a lock before they fell apart.  I guess you could give it to Harbaugh or Day,  but they were expected to win.  It would be hard to give it to Kirk Ferentz given the whole fiasco with his son coaching one of the worst offenses ever for a division winner.

But could they possibly give the award to Iowa defensive coordinater Phil Parker?  Is that even allowed?  Can you vote for an assistant coach for the COTY?
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: FearlessF on November 18, 2022, 08:52:44 AM
give it to Bret

still exceeded expectations
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: Temp430 on November 18, 2022, 09:03:51 AM
TCU should be in the top 4.  Tennessee should be no where, they're not even their SEC division champ.  
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: LittlePig on November 18, 2022, 09:06:37 AM
give it to Bret

still exceeded expectations
I did not think it was possible but it feels like not a single team improved by over 1 game from their record last year.
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: FearlessF on November 18, 2022, 09:14:01 AM
almost every team in the west is minus 1 from last season

that seems impossible
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: LittlePig on November 18, 2022, 09:53:52 AM
almost every team in the west is minus 1 from last season

that seems impossible
I think  I found the missing piece of the puzzle.  Last year PSU was only 4-5, and  was only 1-2 against the West.  This year PSU will probably finish 6-3 or 7-2, and was 3-0 against the West. 
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: FearlessF on November 18, 2022, 10:16:40 AM
perhaps Franklin should win the award
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on November 18, 2022, 05:11:15 PM


Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on November 18, 2022, 05:24:40 PM
perhaps Franklin should win the award
Given that COTY is basically the award for the coach of the team that most exceeded expectations, it has to be BERT.  If you look at our preseason rankings compared to current, it isn't close.  Illinois is almost 5 spots ahead of where they were preseason and next best is Maryland at 3 spots up. 

Nine teams are +/- 1.55 of where they started.  The aforementioned Illinois and Maryland are way ahead.  MSU (-3.27), NU (-3.64), and UW (-5.18) are way behind. 
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, week 11
Post by: Honestbuckeye on November 18, 2022, 06:13:07 PM
  • Michigan:  At this point the 1/2 discussion is pretty much moot since they meet in a little over a week.  That said, tOSU has better overall scores in common opponent games but I'm not sure how healthy tOSU is and M was better against the best common opponent. 
  • Ohio State:  If the RB's and JSN are all healthy they are probably #1. 
  • Penn State:  All alone here, not all that close to #1/2 but vastly superior to #4 and below. 
  • Iowa:  I really have no idea which team to put here.  It feels like #4 through #10 are all basically interchangeable and it is just a matter of which team has a slightly better day. 
  • Minnesota:  I mostly put the Gophers here because they play my #4 this week so it will straighten itself out. 
  • Illinois:  Obviously #4 two weeks ago. 
  • Purdue:  Still in the B1G-W race and they have the two worst teams in the league left so all they need is to win those and for Minnesota to be Iowa. 
  • Michigan State:  This may be too low. 
  • Maryland:  September Maryland would have clinched the West by now if they were in it. 
  • Wisconsin:  Nice wins over UMD and PU but blown out by IL and a two-score loss to Iowa. 
  • Nebraska:  Well, good luck with the new hire. 
  • Rutgers:  Schiano may get them competitive but he isn't there yet. 
  • Indiana:  The Hoosiers have fallen hard since they were competing with tOSU for the B1G-E title a few years ago. 
  • Northwestern:  There is an argument to move them up but I don't see it yet. 


As a Buckeye fan I must agree about the health issues. 

At the beginning of the season all the hype was around there three headed Heisman potential monster. Stroud, Henderson, and Smith- Njigba.

if you had told me they would have been pretty much the whole year without two of those three, not to mention huge chunks of the season without the two starting corners, I would never guess they would get to the point they are now.